Questions about paradise

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

Now to comment on the article. This is subject is really my cup of tea. I like how Robert points out, "In other words, the employer/employee system will be gone. Everyone will be self-sufficient. There will be no landlords, no bosses, no masters, no slaves." “Imagine all the people sharing all the world.” Although I am not a fan of John Lennon's communist utopia, I have often thought how the human race is no big family, and in the new system, travel will be a lot different. Let's say you want to travel to Fuji to spend a few months surfing, but the local resident wants to spend a few months in the mountains where you reside, Well you swap houses for that time period. We're all perfect, we're all family, so it would NOT be no problem.

The other thing to keep in mind, not only will we NOT work in some repetitive factory type job, where every day you're of the verge of going postal, in addition to enjoying the fruits of your labor, we will not be laboring under imperfection, where just getting out of bed is a chore. Like @BARNABY THE DOG. said in a post, "I celebrate getting out of bed in the morning." I wouldn't quite go that far, it's more drudgery for me. LOL. My point is, the reason life is such drudgery is because of our imperfections and the limits that puts on us not just physically but it takes it's toll mentally as well.

But when we are perfect the things we will be able to do, will be glorious! One thing I like to keep in mind when considering our true potential when we are perfect is this...when Jesus was baptized his prehuman existence, and knowledge and memories were all restored to him. Do we realize what that means? The limitless potential of the human mind is truly a miracle. We have no idea how long Jesus lived before coming to the earth, but his memories would include his incredible knowledge and experiences creating the Universe. A human being second only to Jehovah himself, has the capability of grasping things we can't even begin to comprehend. yet Jesus did and was able to. Now, I am not suggesting that Jesus was not unique, not t all, or how Jehovah's Holy Spirit was involved, BUT, it still gives us a glimpse of the incredible and truly miraculous creation that us humans really are. "A little lower than angels." Not a lot, just a "little".

Oh, and think of what a privilege it is that we know the true nature of who Jesus is and was, so we can grasp these truly "deeper things". How can you "imitate Jesus" when you don't even know who he is?

That the brain is limited in general awareness at any one time is true yet it is unimaginably powerful ranging from about a dozen terabytes to 3 petabytes (however one might describe that in an understandable way - I have no idea because no one has ever experienced it in the conscious mind, and so it’s simply an estimate. Put it this way - it’s “a lot”).

What that figure does suggest though is two things: 1/ that our ability to deal with such information at any one time, is limited naturally so that we can live, think and function in the present, and 2/ that our comprehension within life, rather than simply of life, is probably for all intents and purposes, limitless.

You raise the point that that Jesus was made aware of all things at the point of his baptism and this is an indication of just such an event in the comprehension of understanding our position in life, just as the Bible notes “a little lower than the angels” thus giving us comprehension of our true situation within the creation rather than being simply a part ‘of’ creation.

The bible speaks of being required to actively seek Jehovah, presuming this refers to his qualities and ethics, and indeed this is achievable in the degree to which we may gain salvation, but in practice it hardly reveals the full depths of these attributes in what their substance truly indicates within the creative process. Imagine, as you say, what was revealed to Christ at the time Jehovah opened his mind to his full history of existence and thus to commune with his Father and to assume the very understanding of Jehovah directly. It gives an indication of the capacity that the brain may have when unfettered from imperfection. It’s going to be a shock to the system!

 

[MickHewitt]

That the brain is limited in general awareness at any one time is true yet it is unimaginably powerful ranging from about a dozen terabytes to 3 petabytes (however one might describe that in an understandable way - I have no idea because no one has ever experienced it in the conscious mind, and so it’s simply an estimate. Put it this way - it’s “a lot”).

What that figure does suggest though is two things: 1/ that our ability to deal with such information at any one time, is limited naturally so that we can live, think and function in the present, and 2/ that our comprehension within life, rather than simply of life, is probably for all intents and purposes, limitless.

You raise the point that that Jesus was made aware of all things at the point of his baptism and this is an indication of just such an event in the comprehension of understanding our position in life, just as the Bible notes “a little lower than the angels” thus giving us comprehension of our true situation within the creation rather than being simply a part ‘of’ creation.

The bible speaks of being required to actively seek Jehovah, presuming this refers to his qualities and ethics, and indeed this is achievable in the degree to which we may gain salvation, but in practice it hardly reveals the full depths of these attributes in what their substance truly indicates within the creative process. Imagine, as you say, what was revealed to Christ at the time Jehovah opened his mind to his full history of existence and thus to commune with his Father and to assume the very understanding of Jehovah directly. It gives an indication of the capacity that the brain may have when unfettered from imperfection. It’s going to be a shock to the system!

I concur B: Our God given minds are the most phenomenally complex biological design in the material universe.

 

[SollaSollew]

Even though you say you "believe" many times in your question to e-watchman you actually don't believe. You don't need belief, you need faith.

 

[SusanB]

Even though you say you "believe" many times in your question to e-watchman you actually don't believe. You don't need belief, you need faith.

Your comment sparked a thought I had about interacting with people. Have you ever had an interaction with someone who just cannot keep to a schedule or meetings or appointments? They say they will be there but they often don’t live up to their promises. It doesn’t take too long before you realize that they are unreliable and you adjust your expectations accordingly. With Jehovah, he not only has recorded his past dealings with humans and the outcomes for us to get to know him and rely on him, but he has given us a guarantee that we can pray to him and if we listen to him he will listen to us. There are many acts of faith that we can consider, meditate on and display in our personal lives. Who doesn’t have a story where they feel so sure Jehovah rescued them from one uncomfortable or even tragic situation in their lives? These things build faith. We must make a conscience decision and take action to continue to learn about them, meditate on them, act on them and pray to Jehovah. So from this standpoint the ball is in our court because Jehovah has already done so much for us.

From the “Names of God Bible”, Acts 17:26-28: “From one man he has made every nation of humanity to live all over the earth. He has given them the seasons of the year and the boundaries within which to live. He has done this so that they would look for God, somehow reach for him, and find him. In fact, he is never far from any one of us. Certainly, we live, move, and exist because of him. As some of your poets have said, ‘We are God’s children.’”

 

[Ana]

Your comment sparked a thought I had about interacting with people. Have you ever had an interaction with someone who just cannot keep to a schedule or meetings or appointments? They say they will be there but they often don’t live up to their promises. It doesn’t take too long before you realize that they are unreliable and you adjust your expectations accordingly. With Jehovah, he not only has recorded his past dealings with humans and the outcomes for us to get to know him and rely on him, but he has given us a guarantee that we can pray to him and if we listen to him he will listen to us. There are many acts of faith that we can consider, meditate on and display in our personal lives. Who doesn’t have a story where they feel so sure Jehovah rescued them from one uncomfortable or even tragic situation in their lives? These things build faith. We must make a conscience decision and take action to continue to learn about them, meditate on them, act on them and pray to Jehovah. So from this standpoint the ball is in our court because Jehovah has already done so much for us.

From the “Names of God Bible”, Acts 17:26-28: “From one man he has made every nation of humanity to live all over the earth. He has given them the seasons of the year and the boundaries within which to live. He has done this so that they would look for God, somehow reach for him, and find him. In fact, he is never far from any one of us. Certainly, we live, move, and exist because of him. As some of your poets have said, ‘We are God’s children.’”

Cuando pienso en la expresión que se cita en la biblia, cuando a los apostoles les se les abrieron los ojos para comprender las escrituras, pienso en todo lo que hay detrás de la magnífica mano de nuestro gran Creador y en todo lo que nos queda por comprender. Algún día quizás consigamos comprender la magnitud de su palabra. Cuantas veces nos evita sufrir o evita que nos hagan daño? No tenía un cerco protector alrededor de Job? Porque no lo va a tener con nosotros si le somos fieles? Una de las cosas que ha conseguido el diablo es que el hombre piense que a Dios no le importamos y que no nos escucha. Mucho de ateísmo viene de esa emoción de abandono paternal. Y no es cierto. Le importamos y mucho. Que no se nos olvide nunca para querer seguir aprendiendo y obedecerlo como se merece.