Questions from a reader of Jehovah Has Become King

LuisMerino9412

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I really don't know. I do know, though, that as kings and priests they will be very much involved with mankind, at least during the 1,000-year reign. As Jesus told the dying thief, "You will be with me in paradise," Jesus and the 144,000 will not be far away. Obviously, there will be communication in some form. So, no, I don't think they will feel nostalgia.
Oh ok. Ty. That's interesting. So, that creates the possibility that they might take a human form or something like that. I'm just using my imagination because I know the Bible does not say that and I don't want to go beyond what's written. Maybe they will be closer than what we think. 😅 🤔
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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The scriptures allude to a beginning point, the start, which was the creation of Jesus Christ. Prior to that it is called time indefinite, showing that time was not defined yet, and it is a perfect description of a dimension where time does not exist. When does eternity begin or end? Eternity, in the fullest sense of the word, cannot be defined by time, but rather time falls within eternity. Somewhere within Gods existence he began creating, thus the stream of time which we, and the angels are a part of, began.

I'm not certain angels are exempt from time and space, possibly they just fully understand how to use it, which might seem as though they are exempt. Angels certainly understand everything about this universe and how it was created, therefore they have the knowledge to manipulate it to a degree that we may one day ourselves understand. Because they too were created within the stream of time that began with Jesus Christ, I doubt they themselves have the ability to time travel along that stream of time, but must ride it out as we all do. The ability to see forward or backward on that stream of time is limited to Jehovah and anybody he wants to show. I could be wrong, but allowing any creation to go forward or backward in time would undermine the essence of free will, and merely create an infinite amount of variables that would have to be contended with. I just don't see it as something Jehovah would allow. Besides how else is it that only Jehovah knows that day or hour, if angels were exempt from time?

“. . .From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the earth. 24 When there were no watery deeps I was brought forth as with labor pains, when there were no springs heavily charged with water.” Pr 8:23-24
17 Now to the King of eternity, incorruptible, invisible, [the] only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.” 1Ti 1:17

I'm not certain regarding the comparison between time being created and how that supports a triune eternal godhead made up of Father, son, holy spirit. The verse I provided in Proverbs actually shows just the opposite, in that Gods first creation, Jesus Christ portrayed as wisdom, had a start which would not be possible if he was coeternal with the father.
I really like your point re: the creation of Christ - certainly fits in with the current understanding of time, theocratically speaking. 👍 Good scripture too, to back it up.
 

LuisMerino9412

Well-known member
The scriptures allude to a beginning point, the start, which was the creation of Jesus Christ. Prior to that it is called time indefinite, showing that time was not defined yet, and it is a perfect description of a dimension where time does not exist. When does eternity begin or end? Eternity, in the fullest sense of the word, cannot be defined by time, but rather time falls within eternity. Somewhere within Gods existence he began creating, thus the stream of time which we, and the angels are a part of, began.

I'm not certain angels are exempt from time and space, possibly they just fully understand how to use it, which might seem as though they are exempt. Angels certainly understand everything about this universe and how it was created, therefore they have the knowledge to manipulate it to a degree that we may one day ourselves understand. Because they too were created within the stream of time that began with Jesus Christ, I doubt they themselves have the ability to time travel along that stream of time, but must ride it out as we all do. The ability to see forward or backward on that stream of time is limited to Jehovah and anybody he wants to show. I could be wrong, but allowing any creation to go forward or backward in time would undermine the essence of free will, and merely create an infinite amount of variables that would have to be contended with. I just don't see it as something Jehovah would allow. Besides how else is it that only Jehovah knows that day or hour, if angels were exempt from time?

“. . .From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the earth. 24 When there were no watery deeps I was brought forth as with labor pains, when there were no springs heavily charged with water.” Pr 8:23-24
17 Now to the King of eternity, incorruptible, invisible, [the] only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.” 1Ti 1:17

I'm not certain regarding the comparison between time being created and how that supports a triune eternal godhead made up of Father, son, holy spirit. The verse I provided in Proverbs actually shows just the opposite, in that Gods first creation, Jesus Christ portrayed as wisdom, had a start which would not be possible if he was coeternal with the father.
Wow incredible and really good point ty
 

White Stone

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Oh ok. Ty. That's interesting. So, that creates the possibility that they might take a human form or something like that. I'm just using my imagination because I know the Bible does not say that and I don't want to go beyond what's written. Maybe they will be closer than what we think. 😅 🤔
For argument’s sake that its possible that Jesus and the 144,000 can take a human form, they may look like Jesus’ transfiguration on the mountain.(Daniel 12:3; Matthew 17:1,2)
 

DavidCJ

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@Watchman I just bought the book from the canadian amazon site. It's the Final Edition.

The content is same as on the site right? Have you updated any part of it to be in alignment with more recent articles on your site or was it not needed?

Thank you.
 

Watchman

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Staff member
@Watchman I just bought the book from the canadian amazon site. It's the Final Edition.

The content is same as on the site right? Have you updated any part of it to be in alignment with more recent articles on your site or was it not needed?

Thank you.
Actually, the html and audio version are the 2nd edition. The PDF is the final edition. I think. It has been a few years.
 

Watchman

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Staff member
No, I meant the content itself. Is the content in the book updated with what you see now?
Not really. The Final Edition was published in 2016. That was before the WT started confiscating Kingdom Halls and flipping them like flapjacks. Obviously, it was before the GB claimed the deadly vaccines were a loving provision from Jehovah. I wish I had another book in me but I think I am spent. But I hope to keep writing articles and forum posts.
 

DavidCJ

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Not really. The Final Edition was published in 2016. That was before the WT started confiscating Kingdom Halls and flipping them like flapjacks. Obviously, it was before the GB claimed the deadly vaccines were a loving provision from Jehovah. I wish I had another book in me but I think I am spent. But I hope to keep writing articles and forum posts.
Yes you truly "pour" yourself in spreading God's word.

Now don't let this get to your head, because I don't want you turning into GB 2.0, but I want to say thank you for your work and we are blessed to have you.
 
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