Rant: Watchtower

[DavidCJ]

I've always been different. From childhood, no as early as when I could speak. I got bullied quite severely at times, because I did not care for what the crowd wanted me to do. We have four family members. My father, mother, younger brother, and me.

I am absolutely SICK of Vancouver. I have been since 25 years ago when we lived here. People were druggies, and they were/are cold. I was for some reason always extra sensitive. I would refer myself as Canary in the Mine. If I die, then you better get out of there fast. The fact that I'm 39 years old, living at home, struggling(the sensitive thing) absolutely adds to my misery. At my worst times, I can barely function. This place is a piece of garbage. I can see why the coldness exists. The people here are depressed themselves. They are all living in denial.

People I noticed are constantly in denial and live in denial. It is a reality bubble for them. I cannot live like this. If you tell me of my flaw, I will eventually admit it, even if it brings me to the precipice of a crippling depression. If you tell me about something that's true but unimaginable horror in the world, I will hate it, but will search and see if it's true. You could be my friend, but I won't necessary do what you want if I don't agree(many do). I hate, and I hate liars and people that deny. I don't want deception, I don't want coercion. It seems denial is part of the bubble that is necessary to live a functional life. Like my father and mother in a marriage taking care of us, and my brother even though he's not in a much different place from me.

Watchtower Society. I went from seeing them in the absolute positive light to something I am coming to despise. Oh the bubble and the denial they put on my parents. Sometimes I wonder if they themselves are at fault? It sounds bad but could it...? You know, the verse about how he blinds them to be reserved for judgment? Do they not have enough faith? Did they do something wrong? What is it? I want to understand them but I cannot. d*mn the society.

Just had another argument with my father. I feel terrible about this too. I WANT THEM TO WAKE UP!! How can someone that have shown signs of intelligence, creativity above the average can fall like this, I can understand, but it's starting to become unbearable. The frustration, familiarity, and maybe even love is making me almost estranged with the family member I live with. I don't want to, I want to be patient, but my own situation is bringing me close to a breaking point so I lash out.

 

[Soul Sage]

I've always been different. From childhood, no as early as when I could speak. I got bullied quite severely at times, because I did not care for what the crowd wanted me to do. We have four family members. My father, mother, younger brother, and me.

I am absolutely SICK of Vancouver. I have been since 25 years ago when we lived here. People were druggies, and they were/are cold. I was for some reason always extra sensitive. I would refer myself as Canary in the Mine. If I die, then you better get out of there fast. The fact that I'm 39 years old, living at home, struggling(the sensitive thing) absolutely adds to my misery. At my worst times, I can barely function. This place is a piece of garbage. I can see why the coldness exists. The people here are depressed themselves. They are all living in denial.

People I noticed are constantly in denial and live in denial. It is a reality bubble for them. I cannot live like this. If you tell me of my flaw, I will eventually admit it, even if it brings me to the precipice of a crippling depression. If you tell me about something that's true but unimaginable horror in the world, I will hate it, but will search and see if it's true. You could be my friend, but I won't necessary do what you want if I don't agree(many do). I hate, and I hate liars and people that deny. I don't want deception, I don't want coercion. It seems denial is part of the bubble that is necessary to live a functional life. Like my father and mother in a marriage taking care of us, and my brother even though he's not in a much different place from me.

Watchtower Society. I went from seeing them in the absolute positive light to something I am coming to despise. Oh the bubble and the denial they put on my parents. Sometimes I wonder if they themselves are at fault? It sounds bad but could it...? You know, the verse about how he blinds them to be reserved for judgment? Do they not have enough faith? Did they do something wrong? What is it? I want to understand them but I cannot. d*mn the society.

Just had another argument with my father. I feel terrible about this too. I WANT THEM TO WAKE UP!! How can someone that have shown signs of intelligence, creativity above the average can fall like this, I can understand, but it's starting to become unbearable. The frustration, familiarity, and maybe even love is making me almost estranged with the family member I live with. I don't want to, I want to be patient, but my own situation is bringing me close to a breaking point so I lash out.

May Jehovah be your rock in times of distress. I'm the same age as you. I could understand the struggle. Leave it be. No one is going to change because you want them to change. If it's really bothering you, I think that's a good enough reason to move somewhere else and start a new life and make new friends. Sometimes taking that journey can lead to new opportunities.

 

[Ana]

Salmo 27;10 Hasta si mi padre y mi madre me abandonaran,
Jehová se haría cargo de mí.
11 Enséñame tu camino, oh, Jehová,
guíame por el sendero de la rectitud por causa de mis opositores.
12 No me entregues a mis adversarios,
porque testigos falsos se han levantado contra mí
y me amenazan con violencia.
13 ¿Dónde estaría yo si no hubiera tenido fe
en que vería la bondad de Jehová en la tierra de los vivos?
14 Pon tu esperanza en Jehová;
sé valiente y fuerte de corazón.
Sí, pon tu esperanza en Jehová

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

@DavidCJ said: “I've always been different. From childhood, no as early as when I could speak. ”

There is nothing anyone can do to assist if you do not want to change your circumstances and learnt responses. People understand what you write - that is self evident by the responses. The very thing that is eating at you continues to do so because your comfort is in that very response. It’s immovable. Two things are required: The mental tools to resolve it and to move away from the causal root of it. All other suggestions are as you point out, simply going around in circles because you are not comfortable with change because the learnt responses are a comfort and justification within themselves. The similar response is found in repeat offenders - they are comforted by jail routine. It has become normalised in their lives. I’m not talking about the crime aspect - before you throw a brick at me, but simply the “comfort” or “familiarity” of the never ending circle.

There is nothing wrong in “difference” as long as the “differences” are not perverse. Use the differences you have as the basis to build a new construct of dealing with your circumstances. You know these so there is no need for any one to tell you, you have the required course of action already in your hands. What you need to identify is what it is that is stopping you from utilising it. It is these things that you can change and implement. These things are in your own resources to change, either mentally or practically, should you wish to. It’s up to you. Being “different” is a problem to everyone else, but not to you. You can be whom you want to be should you wish to, but you have become dependent upon the responses and triggers that have arisen, because it is all you have known - so you tell us.

If people want to live in a bubble, let them. You have done what you can and that is all that is asked of you. If their intransigence brings you to depression, quit letting it do that to you. Choose instead to speak with those that will listen. You can only lay the evidence at their feet, because only they can pick it up, or kick it away. That is the only task we are given, but it is an important point in living for us too. Vancouver is not your problem. It’s a lot closer to home than you may care to imagine. That’s always the most painful of points to come to terms with. I did not come by it easily either. None of us do. It’s a painful journey, but well worth the travel. (By the way, watchtower is there for a reason. Accept it for what it is and leave it alone. It will take no one with it who does not love it for what it is. Jehovah will awake anyone who is done with sleeping).

 

[Watchman]

I know it is summertime and sunny, but a lot of people in the Northwest, Portland, Seattle, and Vancouver, suffer from SAD (seasonally affected disorder) because of the constant cloud cover. The depression doesn't always go away when the sun comes out for a few months. Try supplementing with high-quality vitamin D3. There are other nutrients too that can help. You may not be able to do anything about your situation, but getting toxins out of your life and boosting nutrition can help you cope.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

I've always been different. From childhood, no as early as when I could speak. I got bullied quite severely at times, because I did not care for what the crowd wanted me to do. We have four family members. My father, mother, younger brother, and me.

I am absolutely SICK of Vancouver. I have been since 25 years ago when we lived here. People were druggies, and they were/are cold. I was for some reason always extra sensitive. I would refer myself as Canary in the Mine. If I die, then you better get out of there fast. The fact that I'm 39 years old, living at home, struggling(the sensitive thing) absolutely adds to my misery. At my worst times, I can barely function. This place is a piece of garbage. I can see why the coldness exists. The people here are depressed themselves. They are all living in denial.

People I noticed are constantly in denial and live in denial. It is a reality bubble for them. I cannot live like this. If you tell me of my flaw, I will eventually admit it, even if it brings me to the precipice of a crippling depression. If you tell me about something that's true but unimaginable horror in the world, I will hate it, but will search and see if it's true. You could be my friend, but I won't necessary do what you want if I don't agree(many do). I hate, and I hate liars and people that deny. I don't want deception, I don't want coercion. It seems denial is part of the bubble that is necessary to live a functional life. Like my father and mother in a marriage taking care of us, and my brother even though he's not in a much different place from me.

Watchtower Society. I went from seeing them in the absolute positive light to something I am coming to despise. Oh the bubble and the denial they put on my parents. Sometimes I wonder if they themselves are at fault? It sounds bad but could it...? You know, the verse about how he blinds them to be reserved for judgment? Do they not have enough faith? Did they do something wrong? What is it? I want to understand them but I cannot. d*mn the society.

Just had another argument with my father. I feel terrible about this too. I WANT THEM TO WAKE UP!! How can someone that have shown signs of intelligence, creativity above the average can fall like this, I can understand, but it's starting to become unbearable. The frustration, familiarity, and maybe even love is making me almost estranged with the family member I live with. I don't want to, I want to be patient, but my own situation is bringing me close to a breaking point so I lash out.

Ah, I could really feel your pain when I was reading that your family will wake up, in their own time, keep serving Jehovah and keep close to him and your family will notice the difference between serving God and serving men. Meantime, whatever it is in this life that gives you any joy at all, then do more of it, keep yourself occupied with it and talking to Jehovah. I have to literally push as much of the world including people, away from me in order to keep a measure of sanity. Fortunately I have a husband who is not a witness, but feels exactly the same as me and so we're a team and have eachother for company. According to Watchtower our relationship ought not work, but it works a lot better than many witness marriages Its such a shame we're all a million miles away from eachother, we could benefit from being able to meet up occasionally.. keep plodding along, one day at a time, just as Jesus recommended

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

Salmo 27;10 Hasta si mi padre y mi madre me abandonaran,
Jehová se haría cargo de mí.
11 Enséñame tu camino, oh, Jehová,
guíame por el sendero de la rectitud por causa de mis opositores.
12 No me entregues a mis adversarios,
porque testigos falsos se han levantado contra mí
y me amenazan con violencia.
13 ¿Dónde estaría yo si no hubiera tenido fe
en que vería la bondad de Jehová en la tierra de los vivos?
14 Pon tu esperanza en Jehová;
sé valiente y fuerte de corazón.
Sí, pon tu esperanza en Jehová

Translation: Psalm 27;10 Even if my father and mother abandoned me,

Jehovah would take care of me.

11 Show me your way, oh, Jehovah,

Guide me along the path of righteousness because of my opponents.

12 Do not give me to my adversaries,

Because false witnesses have stood up against me

And they threaten me with violence.

13 Where would I be if I hadn't had faith?

How would you see Jehovah's goodness in the land of the living?

14 Put your hope in Jehovah;

Be brave and strong at heart.

Yes, put your hope in Jehovah

 

[mts]

I thought the thread title for what I want to share was very fitting, but my thoughts aren't exactly a reply to what's been shared here; nonetheless, I think related.

In this past weeks WT study, "Be courageous like Zadok", I found the points in paragraph 11 to be incorrectly ordered. The order shared was: 1) Follow direction, 2) Be courageous, but cautious and 3) Rely on Jehovah (translated in lang I attend was, "Trust in Jah"). Should JW's see the ORG as more trusting than Jah? Is following direction from non-inspired, non-infallible humans more important than trusting in Jah? Shouldn't point #3 be #1? So Prov 22:3 is God's direction on how to act wisely, albeit, point #2, IMO, should be, use common sense and play it safe, right? The example given though states that govt direction was followed regarding using safe roads in Ukraine; is it always wise to follow govt guidance? Point #1 should be #3 and should be in harmony with God's direction. If the guidance doesn't make sense, is in-line with the media & govt, I'd be weary, because the pandemic direction the GB gave left much to be desired and has created doubt that future direction will be wise to follow.

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

I've always been different. From childhood, no as early as when I could speak. I got bullied quite severely at times, because I did not care for what the crowd wanted me to do. We have four family members. My father, mother, younger brother, and me.

I am absolutely SICK of Vancouver. I have been since 25 years ago when we lived here. People were druggies, and they were/are cold. I was for some reason always extra sensitive. I would refer myself as Canary in the Mine. If I die, then you better get out of there fast. The fact that I'm 39 years old, living at home, struggling(the sensitive thing) absolutely adds to my misery. At my worst times, I can barely function. This place is a piece of garbage. I can see why the coldness exists. The people here are depressed themselves. They are all living in denial.

People I noticed are constantly in denial and live in denial. It is a reality bubble for them. I cannot live like this. If you tell me of my flaw, I will eventually admit it, even if it brings me to the precipice of a crippling depression. If you tell me about something that's true but unimaginable horror in the world, I will hate it, but will search and see if it's true. You could be my friend, but I won't necessary do what you want if I don't agree(many do). I hate, and I hate liars and people that deny. I don't want deception, I don't want coercion. It seems denial is part of the bubble that is necessary to live a functional life. Like my father and mother in a marriage taking care of us, and my brother even though he's not in a much different place from me.

Watchtower Society. I went from seeing them in the absolute positive light to something I am coming to despise. Oh the bubble and the denial they put on my parents. Sometimes I wonder if they themselves are at fault? It sounds bad but could it...? You know, the verse about how he blinds them to be reserved for judgment? Do they not have enough faith? Did they do something wrong? What is it? I want to understand them but I cannot. d*mn the society.

Just had another argument with my father. I feel terrible about this too. I WANT THEM TO WAKE UP!! How can someone that have shown signs of intelligence, creativity above the average can fall like this, I can understand, but it's starting to become unbearable. The frustration, familiarity, and maybe even love is making me almost estranged with the family member I live with. I don't want to, I want to be patient, but my own situation is bringing me close to a breaking point so I lash out.

After reading your expressions I feel I can relate as well as many here to some extent. You made me think about how the Bible expresses how Lot felt about the things going on around him. Peter was inspired to write this: “And he rescued righteous Lot, who was greatly distressed by the brazen conduct of the lawless people— 8 for day after day that righteous man was tormenting his righteous soul over the lawless deeds that he saw and heard while dwelling among them.” —2 Peter 2: 7,8.

This includes all that is happening within Watchtower now and after me as well as others being traumatized after learning the truth about the truth.

I think it’s because we are “different” that may make us special to Jehovah and the world, including many witnesses who turn their noses up at us and pay no attention to what we have to say or think. We just have to do what we can for now ( as suggested by others here) rely totally on Jehovah and pour out your heart to him. In due time he will rescue us from this torment.

 

[Maybelle]

I often feel the same with my husband. He was mainly doing the meetings on zoom, but just recently has started to go back in person. He knows I don’t agree with 1914 etc and says I am being foolish and he’s worried for me. I have found it’s best to not speak about , it ends up in an argument, which is never good. Soon everything will come to light and everyone will have to wake up.

 

[DavidCJ]

Thank you all for the responses.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

I often feel the same with my husband. He was mainly doing the meetings on zoom, but just recently has started to go back in person. He knows I don’t agree with 1914 etc and says I am being foolish and he’s worried for me. I have found it’s best to not speak about , it ends up in an argument, which is never good. Soon everything will come to light and everyone will have to wake up.

You are right not to undermine a primary belief of someone. They will defend it to the end. What the ancients did when attacking a castle was to under mine it, dig under the foundations and bring down the entire wall. Satan used a loaf of bread to tempt Christ after forty days of going without food. The subtlety of simple non-compliance with watchtower from one’s partner may be enough for them to question their own beliefs and cause them to re-examine what they do, and stimulates them to ask their partner what ails them. The weak point for witnesses is the “extended generation” rather than 1914. As for me, I have the same problem as you in reverse - my wife is an ex-Catholic and all religions are alike to her, but I’m making headway on WW3 in waking her up to “alternatives” in thinking about the future. When it breaks, she will be ready for discussing solutions - hopefully.

 

[Jahrule]

I've always been different. From childhood, no as early as when I could speak. I got bullied quite severely at times, because I did not care for what the crowd wanted me to do. We have four family members. My father, mother, younger brother, and me.

I am absolutely SICK of Vancouver. I have been since 25 years ago when we lived here. People were druggies, and they were/are cold. I was for some reason always extra sensitive. I would refer myself as Canary in the Mine. If I die, then you better get out of there fast. The fact that I'm 39 years old, living at home, struggling(the sensitive thing) absolutely adds to my misery. At my worst times, I can barely function. This place is a piece of garbage. I can see why the coldness exists. The people here are depressed themselves. They are all living in denial.

People I noticed are constantly in denial and live in denial. It is a reality bubble for them. I cannot live like this. If you tell me of my flaw, I will eventually admit it, even if it brings me to the precipice of a crippling depression. If you tell me about something that's true but unimaginable horror in the world, I will hate it, but will search and see if it's true. You could be my friend, but I won't necessary do what you want if I don't agree(many do). I hate, and I hate liars and people that deny. I don't want deception, I don't want coercion. It seems denial is part of the bubble that is necessary to live a functional life. Like my father and mother in a marriage taking care of us, and my brother even though he's not in a much different place from me.

Watchtower Society. I went from seeing them in the absolute positive light to something I am coming to despise. Oh the bubble and the denial they put on my parents. Sometimes I wonder if they themselves are at fault? It sounds bad but could it...? You know, the verse about how he blinds them to be reserved for judgment? Do they not have enough faith? Did they do something wrong? What is it? I want to understand them but I cannot. d*mn the society.

Just had another argument with my father. I feel terrible about this too. I WANT THEM TO WAKE UP!! How can someone that have shown signs of intelligence, creativity above the average can fall like this, I can understand, but it's starting to become unbearable. The frustration, familiarity, and maybe even love is making me almost estranged with the family member I live with. I don't want to, I want to be patient, but my own situation is bringing me close to a breaking point so I lash out.

I feel a sense of kinship with you. We're about the same age. I just turned 40 on September 11th. For the longest time I lived with my mom. As most of you know, she passed away last year. I used to wonder how I'd ever make it on my own. It's weird because I didn't just decide one day to move out. It just kind of happened. Sometimes parents are what they are. You can't change them. Only time can do that. Perhaps someday we will all be on the same page together. That's something to look forward to. Never feel like you're stuck. Being on your own kind of sucks too. I kind of miss the old days. But I always told Jah I wanted to be successful on my own.

And so far, so good. Jah is with you, my friend. He doesn't always snap his fingers and fix everything right away, but he does hear us. Never stop praying. If I can make it on my own you can too. If that's what you want. Of course, in my situation my parents are gone. I kind of have to succeed. It's either sink or swim in my case. Perhaps it would be better for you to find another path now before you have no other option like I did. Just being suddenly thrown into the world kind of sucks. Still, even if you wait, if I did it anyone can. You just gotta be strong, and I promise you that strength isn't my own. Best of wishes, brother!

 

[Nomex]

the denial they put on my parents. Sometimes I wonder if they themselves are at fault? It sounds bad but could it...? You know, the verse about how he blinds them to be reserved for judgment?

This is something I have given considerable thought to. I think I have it at least partially figured out. In the case of JW rank & file, because we and they know that they have the "truth", it makes it impossible to consider that they do not have the "whole truth." The basic truths that JW have right, really does set them apart from any other religion. What they have right, is not only profound, it is really incontrovertible that is if you are honest with yourself. So what happens by extension, is they extend their beliefs of the things they know are incontrovertible, into and onto the things that don't have nearly as much backing Biblically speaking if at all. We are all guilty of it to some extent. I was equally convinced and even though I was certain they were wrong about their understanding of some things, it wasn't until I started reading what RK had written before I would even consider that 1914 was a delusional lie.

Let me say that again, I would not even consider that they were wrong about 1914. Even though now looking back, I am kind of embarrassed to say that because it's obvious they were getting desperate to make it make sense as time continued to click away. 90 years, then 100, now 110 years later, and they still cling to 1914 and the "generation that will by no means pass away."

The thing is though, Jesus apostles also had a lot of wrong ideas and likewise were equally convinced they were right. That's why Peter said to Jesus, "be kind to yourself Lord, this will not be your fate at all." I mean that is conviction, to say that to Jesus whom he had confessed was the Son of God, yet he had the cojones to say that to Jesus!!! Keep in mind, Jesus corrected him but knew what Peter was about to face and that it would refine him and he still loved him. Sometimes the only thing that we will believe sadly is sometimes, "the school of Hard Knox." A little or for some of us a lot.

But I know all too well what you are feeling and I know it is pointless to even bring any of this up. My little brother still thinks beards are "of the Devil"...LOL. And he could not possibly articulate why, at least not so anyone but him could make any sense of it.


Hang in there brother!!!

 

[CathiiD'Anthonii]

I know how you feel. You are very smart, also which is a blessing in itself.. I live right below you in Wa. and gave up my beautiful boat and life in KW and came here to live with one of my sisters, and she immediately told me shes atheist, and after a month, kicked me out on the street. enough said there. Someone is shot every week here and they like to steel your car parts..
The Pacific Northwest is a hard place to live, dark and cold 3 months out of the year, Bro. King is right, in that I take D3 and St. Johns Wart to ward off the depression..Jehovah has granted me a lot of peace inside, pray for peace because Jesus said he would give us that peace. Hiking in the woods alone here along the river and reflecting on what He is going to give us is truly happiness. One thing about the PNW is its truly beautiful.5 deer walked by me last week, they were awsome, just playing along the river...we have so much to look forward to.
People do what they want to do, mates, siblings , children.. but we can be at peace inside..

 

[DavidCJ]

@Jahrule I lived on my own for 2 years in a rural area. I'm actually thinking of moving away from Canada altogether. I thought at the time in the rural place(forgetting how I felt in Vancouver) that I needed a base to quickly get to my goals that's why I came back. I need to make a more permanent plan now.

@Nomex What do you think of the verse about caring for your family? I mean, I thought it mostly applies to your own family, the one you get from having a wife and kids. But what about regarding my parents, and my brother?

Did you know there are different Jehovah's Witnesses sects in some countries of the world? They apparently share the same fundamentals: Using Jehovah's name, paradise earth for most people, no hellfire, no trinity.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

I feel a sense of kinship with you. We're about the same age. I just turned 40 on September 11th. For the longest time I lived with my mom. As most of you know, she passed away last year. I used to wonder how I'd ever make it on my own. It's weird because I didn't just decide one day to move out. It just kind of happened. Sometimes parents are what they are. You can't change them. Only time can do that. Perhaps someday we will all be on the same page together. That's something to look forward to. Never feel like you're stuck. Being on your own kind of sucks too. I kind of miss the old days. But I always told Jah I wanted to be successful on my own.

And so far, so good. Jah is with you, my friend. He doesn't always snap his fingers and fix everything right away, but he does hear us. Never stop praying. If I can make it on my own you can too. If that's what you want. Of course, in my situation my parents are gone. I kind of have to succeed. It's either sink or swim in my case. Perhaps it would be better for you to find another path now before you have no other option like I did. Just being suddenly thrown into the world kind of sucks. Still, even if you wait, if I did it anyone can. You just gotta be strong, and I promise you that strength isn't my own. Best of wishes, brother!

"Sink or swim" is pretty much how my whole life has been since being a toddler, does wonders to our character building and resilience exhausting though ain't it?

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

I know how you feel. You are very smart, also which is a blessing in itself.. I live right below you in Wa. and gave up my beautiful boat and life in KW and came here to live with one of my sisters, and she immediately told me shes atheist, and after a month, kicked me out on the street. enough said there. Someone is shot every week here and they like to steel your car parts..
The Pacific Northwest is a hard place to live, dark and cold 3 months out of the year, Bro. King is right, in that I take D3 and St. Johns Wart to ward off the depression..Jehovah has granted me a lot of peace inside, pray for peace because Jesus said he would give us that peace. Hiking in the woods alone here along the river and reflecting on what He is going to give us is truly happiness. One thing about the PNW is its truly beautiful.5 deer walked by me last week, they were awsome, just playing along the river...we have so much to look forward to.
People do what they want to do, mates, siblings , children.. but we can be at peace inside..

You're so right, being in amongst nature is exhilarating and mood lifting and sadly, this past 30 years kids have been brainwashed into keeping away from it, it's dirty, dangerous and boring, the virtual/digital world is where they want them, and it's where most of them have ended up

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

@Jahrule I lived on my own for 2 years in a rural area. I'm actually thinking of moving away from Canada altogether. I thought at the time in the rural place(forgetting how I felt in Vancouver) that I needed a base to quickly get to my goals that's why I came back. I need to make a more permanent plan now.

@Nomex What do you think of the verse about caring for your family? I mean, I thought it mostly applies to your own family, the one you get from having a wife and kids. But what about regarding my parents, and my brother?

Did you know there are different Jehovah's Witnesses sects in some countries of the world? They apparently share the same fundamentals: Using Jehovah's name, paradise earth for most people, no hellfire, no trinity.

Really? There are other groups of witnesses out there? A bit like US?

 

[Jahrule]

@Jahrule I lived on my own for 2 years in a rural area. I'm actually thinking of moving away from Canada altogether. I thought at the time in the rural place(forgetting how I felt in Vancouver) that I needed a base to quickly get to my goals that's why I came back. I need to make a more permanent plan now.

@Nomex What do you think of the verse about caring for your family? I mean, I thought it mostly applies to your own family, the one you get from having a wife and kids. But what about regarding my parents, and my brother?

Did you know there are different Jehovah's Witnesses sects in some countries of the world? They apparently share the same fundamentals: Using Jehovah's name, paradise earth for most people, no hellfire, no trinity.

Yeah. Same here. I lived in New York once for about a year, and I lived in Connecticut once for about 6 months. But that was the house my sister got for her cats so he husband wouldn't know she had them. My first time on my own was that place in New York. Then I lived in Vermont for about a year before mom got sick. Then I moved back to Vermont this most recent time. So almost exactly like you I had a little experience. But now I'm fully on my own because there's nowhere left to go. Lol

 

[a watcher]

I know how you feel. You are very smart, also which is a blessing in itself.. I live right below you in Wa. and gave up my beautiful boat and life in KW and came here to live with one of my sisters, and she immediately told me shes atheist, and after a month, kicked me out on the street. enough said there. Someone is shot every week here and they like to steel your car parts..
The Pacific Northwest is a hard place to live, dark and cold 3 months out of the year, Bro. King is right, in that I take D3 and St. Johns Wart to ward off the depression..Jehovah has granted me a lot of peace inside, pray for peace because Jesus said he would give us that peace. Hiking in the woods alone here along the river and reflecting on what He is going to give us is truly happiness. One thing about the PNW is its truly beautiful.5 deer walked by me last week, they were awsome, just playing along the river...we have so much to look forward to.
People do what they want to do, mates, siblings , children.. but we can be at peace inside..

I take St. John's Wort for depression also.

 

[CathiiD'Anthonii]

The difference between the east coast and the west is the humidity..There is none in the PNW, very little. I loved living in South Carolina and going to the beach, swimming every day. Wyoming is beautiful and wild, but very cold. We had a Badger visiting the garden where I worked, They will attack un provoked. The average temp. in winter is minus 10 in the day, but lots of sun..
Rain in the PNW is laughable.. You might feel a drop every now and then, enough to mess up the dirt on your car. but the East Coast, you get good a soak especially during hurricane season June 1st . to Dec. 1st.
Tennessee is also breath taking, and its a wonder all the horses are there. MIchigan in the fall , along Belle river is unforgettable. Jehovah also likes the color orange against His blue sky..Going down the Amazon river in Jehovahs new earth would be a blast!!
Thats all I have to say about that!!

 

[DavidCJ]

Rain in the PNW is laughable.. You might feel a drop every now and then, enough to mess up the dirt on your car. but the East Coast, you get good a soak especially during hurricane season June 1st . to Dec. 1st.

Actually I live in Surrey, which seems to be one of the cloudiest regions outside of Summer. It doesn't pour, but it's a decent amount and it rains all day. If I look over the horizon towards White Rock, it's 80% of the time sunny where it's raining here.

I distinctly remember a year where we basically had 2 weeks of sunny Summer.

I lived in Calgary too. Vancouver has LOT more druggies. One channel was talking about that and while the population difference was only 2.5x or so, there were 20x homeless and drug addicts. I actually didn't know what drugs were(the abused kind) until I came to Vancouver, seeing I was 14. I might just go back to Calgary, considering the premier is lot better too.

 

[CathiiD'Anthonii]

I don't know about Seattle except to stay out of it..The East side of the Cascades ... My nephew died about 2 years ago from Fentanyl and alcohol here. He was in his 30's, and raised in the WT. Is any place better than another?

 

[seeker4kingdom]

Not sure how much it relates with this subject, but I think to post it ..