(REAL COURT CASE) Jehovah’s Witnesses Try to Claim an Ex-Member’s Inheritance — Court Blocks It

What worries me about the above case is that they must be active in searching the brethren for money or to take advantage of one’s death in this manner. Would they not first prioritise looking for living relatives? But what are they doing even looking for such income? It feels like grave robbing, squabbling over inheritance and legally challenging a pittance of money in the face of their billions that they have. It’s so immoral and underhanded. Where is their faith in the provision of Jehovah and do they even believe in His blessing any more? I think not.
 
BARNABY THE DOG. said:
What worries me about the above case is that they must be active in searching the brethren for money or to take advantage of one’s death in this manner. Would they not first prioritise looking for living relatives? But what are they doing even looking for such income? It feels like grave robbing, squabbling over inheritance and legally challenging a pittance of money in the face of their billions that they have. It’s so immoral and underhanded. Where is their faith in the provision of Jehovah and do they even believe in His blessing any more? I think not.
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They have no faith. They do not believe in God. They are apostates. They are a business, a corporation. A corrupt corporation disguising themselves as a religion. But exposing themselves by being very careless. I feel it inside and I am only going by gut feeling that they will expose themselves completely before long and all end up in jail or worse. It was also prophesied that they will be completely exposed by Jehovah's will. The governments will completely devastate all Cults, all false religions soon. By soon I believe in the next 5 - 10 years. What do you all think?
 
Related to this case, perhaps?

a believer

Thread 'Jehovah’s Witnesses try to declare the death of a woman who fled the religious organization to keep her inheritance'

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Jehovah’s Witnesses try to declare the death of a woman who fled the religious organization to keep her inheritance, but Justice restrains them​

In Spain there are around 127,000 citizens who are part of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, according to data from the religious organization itself. They have some roots in Spain, but if for something it is known it is because it has starred in a judicial battle against those who are expelled from their breast or have wanted to abandon it. So much so that even the Spanish Association of Victims of Jehovah’s...
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Slavica Vukmanovic said:
They have no faith. They do not believe in God. They are apostates. They are a business, a corporation. A corrupt corporation disguising themselves as a religion.
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Listening to others talk about what has happened since I left, has made me wonder. It would not be unheard of for a person(s) to be in a religion/church even though they themselves don't even believe. It would certainly help explain some things they do.
You can't really look at the world and not get the feeling of something earth changing about to happen, yet most of the "Christians" whose videos I watch still seem to be stuck trying to fix what God has judged. Today I heard a better explanation of why Christians shouldn't even bother trying and it has to do with inheritance but he quoted the scriptures we usually refer to.
I was one sentence away from telling him he sounded like one of Jehovah's Witnesses but I didn't. He denies Jehovah's existence even with an obvious extensive bible education.
It doesn't mean he would necessarily be put to death but he will get a spanking.
 
BagdadBill said:
Listening to others talk about what has happened since I left, has made me wonder. It would not be unheard of for a person(s) to be in a religion/church even though they themselves don't even believe. It would certainly help explain some things they do.
You can't really look at the world and not get the feeling of something earth changing about to happen, yet most of the "Christians" whose videos I watch still seem to be stuck trying to fix what God has judged. Today I heard a better explanation of why Christians shouldn't even bother trying and it has to do with inheritance but he quoted the scriptures we usually refer to.
I was one sentence away from telling him he sounded like one of Jehovah's Witnesses but I didn't. He denies Jehovah's existence even with an obvious extensive bible education.
It doesn't mean he would necessarily be put to death but he will get a spanking.
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Many with extensive Bible knowledge do not believe in God. Many ex-JW's were disfellowshipped for apostacy and that is exactly what they are. Many have YouTube channels that expose the Watchtower but they themselves do not continue in their ministry to make disciples. Many have turned to apostacy after leaving the JW's. Satan is very, very clever. The longer I live and the better I get to know him the more I hate him for all the harm he has done and continues to do. He will eventually lose the war but he continues to win many battles.
 
Slavica Vukmanovic said:
...By soon I believe in the next 5 - 10 years. What do you all think?
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a watcher said:
I agree with this part.
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And then there's this, from the recent Watchtower Study Article:

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—Timothy,
a believer.
 
Slavica Vukmanovic said:
Many with extensive Bible knowledge do not believe in God.
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a watcher:
I agree with this part.
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That's been my experience with others as well.

As one example: I've read nearly everything that Bart Ehrman has written because his research on the available manuscripts of the Bible is fascinating for me. But the man lost his faith in God somewhere in the process of his advancement in the Bible scholar field, and last I knew, he was agnostic (hedging his bet, as I tend to think of those who adopt agnosticism). What a shame when that happens to a believer!

But the same phenomenon, too often, takes place among those who either are shown the door by the Watchtower organization's representatives (read: elders) or leave for unscriptural reasons.

The nearest I can get to a speculation on why this happens is that the person placed their faith in the religion, such as Ehrman, or in the organization, those who are stumbled by the goings on in the organization that they become aware of. They not only go on to reject the Watchtower organization, but Jehovah's Witnesses in general, and more often than not rejoice in their conversion to atheism and are found on anti-JW forums and sub-reddits, offering little more than vitriol.

The term "throw the baby out with the bathwater" may be a familiar expression to some who've heard it used.

The only place we invest our faith— in my personal opinion— is in the One Who can make things happen, and that is Jehovah God.

Not in religions, organizations, governments, or Man's means.

Again, my personal opinion.

But it's such a tragic thing to witness, someone being stumbled in their walk as a believer. It takes a toll on them, no question about it. But ugh!

—Timothy,
a believer.
 
a believer said:
That's been my experience with others as well.

As one example: I've read nearly everything that Bart Ehrman has written because his research on the available manuscripts of the Bible is fascinating for me. But the man lost his faith in God somewhere in the process of his advancement in the Bible scholar field, and last I knew, he was agnostic (hedging his bet, as I tend to think of those who adopt agnosticism). What a shame when that happens to a believer!

But the same phenomenon, too often, takes place among those who either are shown the door by the Watchtower organization's representatives (read: elders) or leave for unscriptural reasons.

The nearest I can get to a speculation on why this happens is that the person placed their faith in the religion, such as Ehrman, or in the organization, those who are stumbled by the goings on in the organization that they become aware of. They not only go on to reject the Watchtower organization, but Jehovah's Witnesses in general, and more often than not rejoice in their conversion to atheism and are found on anti-JW forums and sub-reddits, offering little more than vitriol.

The term "throw the baby out with the bathwater" may be a familiar expression to some who've heard it used.

The only place we invest our faith— in my personal opinion— is in the One Who can make things happen, and that is Jehovah God.

Not in religions, organizations, governments, or Man's means.

Again, my personal opinion.

But it's such a tragic thing to witness, someone being stumbled in their walk as a believer. It takes a toll on them, no question about it. But ugh!

—Timothy,
a believer.
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"The only place we invest our faith— in my personal opinion— is in the One Who can make things happen, and that is Jehovah God."

"Not in religions, organizations, governments, or Man's means."

I agree.
 
a believer said:
Related to this case, perhaps?

a believer

Thread 'Jehovah’s Witnesses try to declare the death of a woman who fled the religious organization to keep her inheritance'

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Jehovah’s Witnesses try to declare the death of a woman who fled the religious organization to keep her inheritance, but Justice restrains them​

In Spain there are around 127,000 citizens who are part of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, according to data from the religious organization itself. They have some roots in Spain, but if for something it is known it is because it has starred in a judicial battle against those who are expelled from their breast or have wanted to abandon it. So much so that even the Spanish Association of Victims of Jehovah’s...
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It’s even more despicable that they pursue this money knowing she left the organisation.
 
Slavica Vukmanovic said:
They have no faith. They do not believe in God. They are apostates. They are a business, a corporation. A corrupt corporation disguising themselves as a religion. But exposing themselves by being very careless. I feel it inside and I am only going by gut feeling that they will expose themselves completely before long and all end up in jail or worse. It was also prophesied that they will be completely exposed by Jehovah's will. The governments will completely devastate all Cults, all false religions soon. By soon I believe in the next 5 - 10 years. What do you all think?
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I do not worry myself over when the end will come. The bible gives warning enough and adds that to “hope your flight does not come in the winter time.” At my age, my “flight” is stationary - there is nowhere to go, and the energy to “go” has gone with it. Besides, it does not matter. We will only live if Jehovah wishes us to be preserved alive. Failing which, we have the resurrection. There is but one hope for survival, well, two actually. The first is to be at one with Jehovah in living what is understood in our hearts; to do His will in understanding His love - ergo, to live according to His will because we love its values. The second, like it, is this: to have faith in His mercy. It is pointless to hope that the end will come in our time if we are not ready for it. There are millions of witnesses hoping and praying for the end to come who actually put their faith in their elders and governing body and have no idea what will be asked of them. They think, like Winder, that they “know Jehovah”. Knowing is not enough. Satan knows Jehovah and trembles. It’s understanding Jehovah in Spirit that’s is critical.
 
BARNABY THE DOG. said:
I do not worry myself over when the end will come. The bible gives warning enough and adds that to “hope your flight does not come in the winter time.” At my age, my “flight” is stationary - there is nowhere to go, and the energy to “go” has gone with it. Besides, it does not matter. We will only live if Jehovah wishes us to be preserved alive. Failing which, we have the resurrection. There is but one hope for survival, well, two actually. The first is to be at one with Jehovah in living what is understood in our hearts; to do His will in understanding His love - ergo, to live according to His will because we love its values. The second, like it, is this: to have faith in His mercy. It is pointless to hope that the end will come in our time if we are not ready for it. There are millions of witnesses hoping and praying for the end to come who actually put their faith in their elders and governing body and have no idea what will be asked of them. They think, like Winder, that they “know Jehovah”. Knowing is not enough. Satan knows Jehovah and trembles. It’s understanding Jehovah in Spirit that’s is critical.
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Yep, I came to the realisation a few years ago that my "flight" will be stationary too Barney! and neither do I have any "get up and go" left in me! I truly believe that Jehovah will look after us wherever we are, or maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part :unsure: either way, as you said, we have the ressurrection which no-one can take away from us :love:
 
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And then there's this, from the recent Watchtower Study Article:

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—Timothy,
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This rather underlines both the lies of watchtower and their lack of insight. In my meagre understanding, Jehovah allotted six thousand years for Satan to put his case forward. Jehovah, knowing the end from the beginning, knew exactly what the state of the world would be at that time, plus the fact that he reads the hearts of all His people. Time is irrelevant in that regard. Thus there is no leeway for allowing time for people to make up their mind, come the end, because their motivation is already known. The end will come exactly on time. Had watchtower been truthful and not risen to seek glory for itself, they would have realised the signs of the time in due course, rather than make up lies to raise themselves above others. How ridiculous can it be to suggest that the one that made the law of time, dithers about in a quandary wondering whether Joe Bloggs is going to make up his mind? Six thousand years is patience enough. It is we who need to look to the time, not Jehovah. Watchtower excuses are getting so lame these days.
 
Proverbs 14 v 15 said:
Yep, I came to the realisation a few years ago that my "flight" will be stationary too Barney! and neither do I have any "get up and go" left in me! I truly believe that Jehovah will look after us wherever we are, or maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part :unsure: either way, as you said, we have the ressurrection which no-one can take away from us :love:
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There is not exactly anywhere to go anyway. I don’t think Jehovah will drive us all down to Dover and part the channel for us to go into the land of wine and cheese that is France, much less part the Atlantic and have everyone go to America. I’m fairly certain, correct me if I’m wrong, that Jehovah will send tin hats down with the morning dew, come the tribulation and we shall shelter under the stairs with a good cup of tea. I think, judging by recent replies, that our American friends are coming round to the idea of a good cup of tea under these circumstances. I’m not sure though than Ana will swap sangria for tea. Maybe, I’m not sure.
 
BARNABY THE DOG. said:
What worries me about the above case is that they must be active in searching the brethren for money or to take advantage of one’s death in this manner. Would they not first prioritise looking for living relatives? But what are they doing even looking for such income? It feels like grave robbing, squabbling over inheritance and legally challenging a pittance of money in the face of their billions that they have. It’s so immoral and underhanded. Where is their faith in the provision of Jehovah and do they even believe in His blessing any more? I think not.
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About a year ago, someone gave a talk on jw. tv and he was talking about our donations, and he actually said "Your generosity with what you have is what shows how much you love the Christ" :oops: if THAT doesn't put them in the same category as all those tv evangelists they always used to complain about, then I don't know what is..
 
BARNABY THE DOG. said:
There is not exactly anywhere to go anyway. I don’t think Jehovah will drive us all down to Dover and part the channel for us to go into the land of wine and cheese that is France, much less part the Atlantic and have everyone go to America. I’m fairly certain, correct me if I’m wrong, that Jehovah will send tin hats down with the morning dew, come the tribulation and we shall shelter under the stairs with a good cup of tea. I think, judging by recent replies, that our American friends are coming round to the idea of a good cup of tea under these circumstances. I’m not sure though than Ana will swap sangria for tea. Maybe, I’m not sure.
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The land of cheese and wine!!! That's the only thing I miss about living down the South East, my regular trips for cheese and wine :LOL:
 
Proverbs 14 v 15 said:
About a year ago, someone gave a talk on jw. tv and he was talking about our donations, and he actually said "Your generosity with what you have is what shows how much you love the Christ" :oops: if THAT doesn't put them in the same category as all those tv evangelists they always used to complain about, then I don't know what is..
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How do you get JW tv? I must try it.
 
BARNABY THE DOG. said:
De todas formas, no hay exactamente adónde ir. No creo que Jehová nos obligue a todos a ir a Dover y a abrir el canal para que vayamos a la tierra del vino y el queso que es Francia, y mucho menos a abrir el Atlántico para que todos vayamos a América. Estoy bastante seguro, corríjanme si me equivoco, de que Jehová enviará cascos de hojalata con el rocío de la mañana, cuando llegue la tribulación, nos refugiaremos bajo las escaleras con una buena taza de té. Creo, a juzgar por las respuestas recientes, que nuestros amigos estadounidenses están empezando a aceptar la idea de una buena taza de té en estas circunstancias. Aunque no estoy seguro de que Ana cambie la sangría por el té. Quizás, no estoy seguro.
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Bien olfato el tuyo, elige sangria blanca o roja. Recién llegadas. 😂😂
 

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This is on e of the statements that exposes WT the most.

"But his patience is not without purpose. His patience is allowing millions of people the time and the opportunity to come to know him and serve him."

Jehovah's patience? Oh really? In 1914 there was between 1.65 and 1.85 Billion people on earth. In 1914 there were about 50,000 bible students, and we can argue how many, (a tiny minority?) remained after the Russel Rutherford fallout.

But for the sake of argument, let's assume this is true. Jehovah's "patience is allowing millions of people the time and the opportunity to come to know him and serve him." But at what cost? According to WT, ever since 1922 or so, essentially everyone who is NOT one of JW's has the Mark of The Beast, and cannot have it removed, (as if it can be removed), except by becoming one of JW's. That means that Jehovah is willing to KILL, Well over 8 billion people according to WT to save not even 1% of 1% of the earth's population!

Yes, this really is how ruthless they believe Jehovah is! It should inform us quite a lot, about who and what the "Man of Lawlessness" really is. (Satan is the one who wants to depopulate the earth. Satan's minions are the ones who put up the "Georgia Guide-Stones", that said "maintain the earths population at 500,000,000. How similar is that to what WT teaches? No that is NOT a coincidence.)

They bring reproach on Jehovah in a myriad of ways. I was listening to a recent talk of Steven Lett's and I was stunned by the fact that he quite thoroughly and convincingly, when you know the facts, condemned themselves. Passed judgement on themselves. Like I said, it was quite stunning. I have said this many times, they are going to WISH, they had not "waited on Jehovah" which is what a large portion of his talk was dedicated to, and knowing what we know, it is not hard to understand he's actually talking about the CSA scandal, and talking about how "concealed sins will be revealed", and I can't stop thinking how, "yeah, you can no longer hide your lies and misdeeds, due to the internet!" Jehovah is in fact exposing them right now! And I would NOT be surprised if Jehovah does use the courts to do it. But I just don't know how that can happen. I am more inclined to think it will be like Robert says, the obvious fact that they had no idea what they have been talking about when WW3 breaks out, and then the GT will be nothing whatsoever like they imagine it will be, and they will have been exposed totally.

We will have to wait and see. But that statement above is exactly what Ezekiel, was talking about when he said, "All of this is because they have led my people astray by saying, “There is peace!” when there is no peace. When a flimsy partition wall is built, they are plastering it with whitewash." All to prop up their 1914 delusion. Just so they do not have to admit, "No, Jesus did NOT return in 1914."

And to be honest, I have a very hard time with this. It's really difficult for me to imagine, that the GB or at least some of them are this evil. That they will be destroyed permanently. That they have gotten this close, only to lose their eternal life. I find it incomprehensible.
 
Nomex said:
And to be honest, I have a very hard time with this. It's really difficult for me to imagine, that the GB or at least some of them are this evil. That they will be destroyed permanently. That they have gotten this close, only to lose their eternal life. I find it incomprehensible.
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I agree. It is absolutely mind boggling to think of the degree of abject stupidity to be in the captains chair and purposely dive the plane into the ground with your wife sitting in the chair next to you agreeing with your every move (or maybe not agreeing). So close but so far away due to complete and utter spiritual stupidity. "Stupid prophets" indeed. As you say, incomprehensible!
 
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