Religious Groups Received $6-10 Billion In COVID-19 Relief Funds, Hope For More!

[StopTheInsanity]

It would explain why they setup vaccination clinics in their KHall parking lots and advertised “free” vaccines.

I know of the one in Riverside, CA, do you know of any other ones?

 

[StopTheInsanity]

Now with all we have learned in the past 3 years, I see that it states “Operation Rivco Shield” in the upper left corner to describe what they were doing at the KHall. Sounds very militaristic doesn’t it? The COVID response was executed by the military is what they term “counter measures”. Let that sink in when thinking of not being involved with or supporting a military action.

The vaccine was developed by DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Project Agency) and the vaxx injuries were tracked by the Dept of Defense Artificial Intelligence unit. Tom Renz, an attorney found all of this out. Why in the world would the military invent, distribute and track the injuries if it was NOT a bioweapon???

 

[StopTheInsanity]

See attached for more proof that cash incentives were used by insurance companies who paid bonuses to doctors for pushing the jab to their patients.

I wonder if the WHO/UN had incentives that it gave to their NGO's for their vaxx "education programs"?

 

[StopTheInsanity]

They believe in submitting to the superior authority so they followed the rules put in place by very corrupt politicians in NY. Rules that go against the "actual superior authority of the land" the constitution of the USA. Lockdowns are unconstitutional as well as other policies they pushed for. They definitely made money out of it since governments in NY has reward incentive programs for getting organizations to comply. That money went towards funding Rapinoe. All the volunteer workers had to be vaccinated as well as part of the deal. So even though their Rapinoe project continued during the pandemic, the government OK'd them working on it because they were all vaccinated. If they weren't, they would lockdown the construction of it. Bill De Blasio even commended their efforts in a press conference, apologizing earlier for a comment he made about them being against the vaccine from a mix up of refusing blood transfusions. When Bill De Blasio commends you on something, you know you're doing something wrong.

A couple of comments:

1) I think it's Ramapo? Am I mistaken?

2) "Submitting to the Superior Authorites". We had a drama a couple of years ago, 2021 I believe, about Daniel. It covered chapter 6 where there was a law passed forbidding anyone from praying to any God except Darius was to be executed.

Now, Daniel was in the custom of praying 3x a day on his knees to Jehovah facing Jerusalem. This was NOT a Mosaic law requirement, but rather, a conscientious decision that Daniel made based on Solomon's inaugural prayer to Jehovah when the temple was inaugurated.
1 Kings 8:44, 45

44 “If your people go to war against their enemy in the way that you send them, and they pray to Jehovah in the direction of the city that you have chosen and toward the house that I have built for your name, 45 then hear from the heavens their prayer and their request for favor and execute judgment for them.

The key scene in that drama was when the couple Jewish couple asked Daniel "what are you going to do???" and Daniel said that if he would stop praying after the edict, it would look like a compromise, so he was going to trust that Jehovah would take care of things.

The lesson? That couple, nor ANY OTHER ISRAELITE in that land at the time was praying to Jehovah visibly--they were all praying silently. It was ONLY DANIEL who had resolved in his heart to pray on his knees facing Jerusalem in accord with Solomon's prayer so it was, in effect, a conscience matter. Neither he nor the other Israelites were "right" or "wrong". Jehovah blessed them both and on that occasion, when Daniel was thrown into the Lion's pit for praying, Jehovah protected him.

The application? To vaccinate or not should be remained a personal decision based on personal conscience and the GB had NO RIGHT to impose their conscience on the brothers and sisters and tell them to "obey the superior authorites" since THERE WAS NOT and STILL IS NOT any vaccine mandate, at least here in the United States.

3) I think they probably took the money due to the $10 million they've had to pay out in compensation to CSA victims to silence them.

4) I cannot believe that now that COVID is supposedly officially over, that not only is our C.O. and his wife STILL wearing masks at the meetings and out in service, but the GB is now requiring vaccination in order to attend Pioneer school, and the school for elders, missionaries, etc.

That tells me all I need to know about them.

 

[Neville]

Before reading this thread I was wondering why the Witnesses ( my Mum most importantly ) took the poison shots, now I'm angry about it, fuming in fact!
But at the same time I'm disappointed that those who've studied the Bible or been a witness for years could even contemplate listening to a Satanic organization such as the UN.

Now I understand why...

 

[Watchman]

Before reading this thread I was wondering why the Witnesses ( my Mum most importantly ) took the poison shots, now I'm angry about it, fuming in fact!
But at the same time I'm disappointed that those who've studied the Bible or been a witness for years could even contemplate listening to a Satanic organization such as the UN.

Now I understand why...

It is called apostasy.

 

[Neoluna]

we live in a rural area. alot of the brothers and sisters do alot of gardening and farming. They were sitting home grown fruits and vegetables outside the kingdom hall in the carport area to share with other brothers and sisters. The elders gave a talk and told them to stop doing that because the Kingdom Hall was not a farmers market. Well how do they explain the vaccine drive and the Kingdom Halls? I didnt believe it until i saw the flyer and researched it for myself. So much for bring no part of the world.

 

[Bk Kevin]

Before reading this thread I was wondering why the Witnesses ( my Mum most importantly ) took the poison shots, now I'm angry about it, fuming in fact!
But at the same time I'm disappointed that those who've studied the Bible or been a witness for years could even contemplate listening to a Satanic organization such as the UN.

Now I understand why...

More food for thought...​

Satan has corrupted and misled every people that God has ever recognized as his own—beginning with the first family in Eden. For example, so insidious is Satan’s influence, no sooner had God miraculously saved them from Egyptian bondage and organized the patriarchal tribes of Israel into a nation, then Satan induced their high priest, Aaron, to fabricate a golden calf to be worshipped in the name of Jehovah.​

Sadly, much of the history of Israel and Judah is a chronicle of apostasy, idolatry and unfaithfulness on the part of the people of the covenants.

Even God-fearing King David was tragically over-reached by the Devil’s machinations and consequently his false step brought disaster upon God’s people. No, it was not David’s secret immoral love affair with Bathsheba that brought God’s adverse judgment on the nation—it was something much more subtle. The 21st chapter of 1st Chronicles reports: “And Satan proceeded to stand up against Israel and to incite David to number Israel. So David said to Joab and the chiefs of the people: ‘Go, count Israel from Beersheba to Dan and bring it to me that I may know their number.’ But Joab said: ‘May Jehovah add to his people a hundred times as many as they are. Do they not, O my lord the king, all of them belong to my lord as servants? Why does my lord seek this? Why should he become a cause of guilt to Israel?’…. Now this thing was bad in the eyes of the true God, and so he struck down Israel.” Read more> https://e-watchman.com/apostasy-must-come-first/

Also read in

JEHOVAH HIMSELF HAS BECOME KING ​

Chapter 11 – Strange Bedfellows> https://jehovah-is-king.com/strange-bedfellows/​

>

 

[JMJLG]

Money is truly a root of all sorts of evil and the Watchtower is no better than Judas Iscariot when they have betrayed the brothers and sisters in reference to the covid-19 kill shot betrayal.​

​

Matthew26:​

14 Then one of the twelve, the one called Judas Iscariot,+ went to the chief priests 15 and said: “What will YOU give me to betray him to YOU?”+ They stipulated to him thirty silver pieces.+​

24 True, the Son of man is going away, just as it is written+ concerning him, but woe+ to that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed!+ It would have been finer for him if that man had not been born.” https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/bi12/books/matthew/26/​

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Deuteronomy 19:10​

10 that no innocent blooda may be spilled in the midst of your land that Jehovah your God is giving you as an inheritance, and no bloodguilt* has to be upon you.b

2 Kings 24:4​

4 and also [for] the innocent blooda that he had shed, so that he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood, and Jehovah did not consent to grant forgiveness.b

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Yes , and in the same way , they will be called ,"The man of lawlessness " .

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

we live in a rural area. alot of the brothers and sisters do alot of gardening and farming. They were sitting home grown fruits and vegetables outside the kingdom hall in the carport area to share with other brothers and sisters. The elders gave a talk and told them to stop doing that because the Kingdom Hall was not a farmers market. Well how do they explain the vaccine drive and the Kingdom Halls? I didnt believe it until i saw the flyer and researched it for myself. So much for bring no part of the world.

Sharing surplus fruit for free from their farm is somehow wrong? Sounds like watchtower. It is best, or certainly more restful to the soul, to understand why these idiosyncrasies of control pervade the congregations. At least understanding gives more peace to subdue the anger anyway. In psychology, a person who exhibits individuality is seen as a threat by those seeking to control or “oversee” others and are granted the authority to do so. Such an individual is known as a “locus” a person who still has or retains a measure of control over their lives - loosely put, able to determine their own destiny in life. Their actions do not need to be ‘wrong’, simply performed without agreement of the perceived higher authority. In this case, an elders meeting to decide if giving free food to the congregation from one’s own surplus is acceptable. Intrinsically, it is not the act, but the elders sense of a threat to his authority that is the issue. Moving up the scale, he feels threatened because the same issues are relevant to him via the circuit overseer…etc., etc.,

The other relevant factor is that though being appointed as an elder is seen to be acknowledgement of their spirituality, it is rarely the case, because spirituality is measured not by knowledge and depth of understanding as seen in the bible, but by the auspices of that which watchtower deem as knowledge and understanding of the scripture. The two are quite diverse if not opposite in their meaning. I generalise of course, because many older people in the congregation are wise in the Word, but few are appointed for the very reason that they refuse to be company men and still retain their status of ‘locus’ in the Truth as it is written. Silent for now, maybe, but not for much longer, hopefully. It is the same principle of fear that drives the GB and elders with regard to the vaccine. It is upsetting for all, but it’s better to understand why and to retain the thought that now is the time “to not be terrified, but to lift our heads up and rejoice, for our deliverance is getting near.“

 

[DavidCJ]

Here's the quote from Bill De Blasio

and in fact we're really happy to say the Jehovah's Witness leadership has been very, very adamant supporting vaccination. In fact, here's a figure from the about 5,000 people who work in the offices of Jehovah's Witnesses houses of worship around the state, 99 percent are vaccinated.

That was in late 2021. Considering that 85% is the like to dislike ratio of a popular video on Youtube, an extremely well received ones are only at 90%, it tells you how significant 99% is. This may in fact need supernatural forces, but in this case not the side you are thinking of.

It's the same as when they distributed food packages in the neighborhood which was part of Trump's contribution to the churches, as there was so much farm produce going to waste, the org never said it was donations they placed stickers on the packages saying it was from the organisation. This was in a US tabloid, the daughter of a JW mother said how disgusted she was that they took all the credit for themselves, and they keep piling more and more reproach on Jehovah's name.

I would appreciate it if you tell us the title of the news that disclosed that.

The real problem with talking to Jehovah's Witnesses family members and friends about it is they use the word Apostate to discredit any "locus"(as Barnaby explains) from taking root. Out in the world they use Fake News.

Both Fake News and Apostate in vast majority of the cases mean the same thing. "You aren't conforming to the crowd, you bad, bad individual".

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

Here's the quote from Bill De Blasio

That was in late 2021. Considering that 85% is the like to dislike ratio of a popular video on Youtube, an extremely well received ones are only at 90%, it tells you how significant 99% is. This may in fact need supernatural forces, but in this case not the side you are thinking of.


I would appreciate it if you tell us the title of the news that disclosed that.

The real problem with talking to Jehovah's Witnesses family members and friends about it is they use the word Apostate to discredit any "locus"(as Barnaby explains) from taking root. Out in the world they use Fake News.

Both Fake News and Apostate in vast majority of the cases mean the same thing. "You aren't conforming to the crowd, you bad, bad individual".

I have heard of that story that Shekinah mentioned. I do not know from what source either, but it is certainly in line with the evidence that we do have of the watchtowers duplicity. It is frustrating not to be able to prove various items of deceit coming from watchtower, but at least the fact that so much is being ‘revealed’ is in itself an indication of truth. The situation cannot go on. Madness is taking hold of the earths populations. They even think war is an option for peace. What sort of thinking is that?

 

[CyndiaS]

Sharing surplus fruit for free from their farm is somehow wrong? Sounds like watchtower. It is best, or certainly more restful to the soul, to understand why these idiosyncrasies of control pervade the congregations. At least understanding gives more peace to subdue the anger anyway. In psychology, a person who exhibits individuality is seen as a threat by those seeking to control or “oversee” others and are granted the authority to do so. Such an individual is known as a “locus” a person who still has or retains a measure of control over their lives - loosely put, able to determine their own destiny in life. Their actions do not need to be ‘wrong’, simply performed without agreement of the perceived higher authority. In this case, an elders meeting to decide if giving free food to the congregation from one’s own surplus is acceptable. Intrinsically, it is not the act, but the elders sense of a threat to his authority that is the issue. Moving up the scale, he feels threatened because the same issues are relevant to him via the circuit overseer…etc., etc.,

The other relevant factor is that though being appointed as an elder is seen to be acknowledgement of their spirituality, it is rarely the case, because spirituality is measured not by knowledge and depth of understanding as seen in the bible, but by the auspices of that which watchtower deem as knowledge and understanding of the scripture. The two are quite diverse if not opposite in their meaning. I generalise of course, because many older people in the congregation are wise in the Word, but few are appointed for the very reason that they refuse to be company men and still retain their status of ‘locus’ in the Truth as it is written. Silent for now, maybe, but not for much longer, hopefully. It is the same principle of fear that drives the GB and elders with regard to the vaccine. It is upsetting for all, but it’s better to understand why and to retain the thought that now is the time “to not be terrified, but to lift our heads up and rejoice, for our deliverance is getting near.“

I'm confused about your use of the word "locus". Are you referring to the "external vs.internal locus of control" concept used in psychology or something else?

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

I'm confused about your use of the word "locus". Are you referring to the "external vs.internal locus of control" concept used in psychology or something else?

Basically yes, though the theory is outdated, it has relevance insofar as Rotter was concerned when he studied the subject of control within communities. They are still relevant though of course, what was acceptable in the 1950s in terms of social obedience has moved on and in some cases, such as America and the Middle East have become even more oppressive. Maslow was another writer on psychology with his thesis on various needs in development leading to sufficiency of self. They both deal with the issues of hierarchy in social settings but of course, culture has its own perversities too. If you want a more insightful study I would suggest The Feeling of What Happens by Damasio. (Vintage books. 1999).

 

[CyndiaS]

Basically yes, though the theory is outdated, it has relevance insofar as Rotter was concerned when he studied the subject of control within communities. They are still relevant though of course, what was acceptable in the 1950s in terms of social obedience has moved on and in some cases, such as America and the Middle East have become even more oppressive. Maslow was another writer on psychology with his thesis on various needs in development leading to sufficiency of self. They both deal with the issues of hierarchy in social settings but of course, culture has its own perversities too. If you want a more insightful study I would suggest The Feeling of What Happens by Damasio. (Vintage books. 1999).

Oh okay. I agree, it is still very relevant today. I was just confused cuz I thought you were referring to a "locus" as a specific type of person, when the word "locus", by itself refers to a "location, position". So that kinda threw me off a bit. I'm familiar with the LOC theory, as I have kept studying and reading about such subjects beyond the introductory Psychology & Sociology courses I took two decades ago in college. I was just trying to see where you were coming from exactly.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

Oh okay. I agree, it is still very relevant today. I was just confused cuz I thought you were referring to a "locus" as a specific type of person, when the word "locus", by itself refers to a "location, position". So that kinda threw me off a bit. I'm familiar with the LOC theory, as I have kept studying and reading about such subjects beyond the introductory Psychology & Sociology courses I took two decades ago in college. I was just trying to see where you were coming from exactly.

Please don’t think me pedantic, but in the case of psychology the term “locus“ refers to a belief in a certain sense of autonomy. In other words, a “location” or inner belief - literally that the belief resides in them. I.e., that the person retains an insight into who they are, and which in this case, allows them to be independent in thought. Where the word is used in mathematics, for example, it refers to a point or location from which a measurement is taken. Therefore you could view the “locus“ of a person as being their point of reference within their thinking or persona that lends them to assume a certain ‘autonomy’ or view of themselves. I probably could have chosen a better word, but the author of the theory used that description precisely because it refers to a ‘location’ (you could use the word ‘assumption‘ or to assume of one’s self, a certain quality - in this case, independent thought - ergo, something watchtower fears). Is a ‘locus‘ a specific type of person? By degrees, one could argue that point. We meet various types that are convinced that they are correct in all things and will not be advised otherwise, but I prefer to think of a locus as a person who retains an unshakable ideology. Faith, would be one such example - something that one might die for rather than change/compromise/consider otherwise. Pedantic? Not really. Unfortunately, the origin of the word in Latin is unknown, and one has to refer to Greek to get the sense of expansive meaning in this word. Damasio‘s book on how a person perceives reality though is fascinating and is well worth the read to gain insight into perceptions that we retain about ourselves - and by dint of omission, just how fragile our perceptions are! 👍

 

[CyndiaS]

Please don’t think me pedantic, but in the case of psychology the term “locus“ refers to a belief in a certain sense of autonomy. In other words, a “location” or inner belief - literally that the belief resides in them. I.e., that the person retains an insight into who they are, and which in this case, allows them to be independent in thought. Where the word is used in mathematics, for example, it refers to a point or location from which a measurement is taken. Therefore you could view the “locus“ of a person as being their point of reference within their thinking or persona that lends them to assume a certain ‘autonomy’ or view of themselves. I probably could have chosen a better word, but the author of the theory used that description precisely because it refers to a ‘location’ (you could use the word ‘assumption‘ or to assume of one’s self, a certain quality - in this case, independent thought - ergo, something watchtower fears). Is a ‘locus‘ a specific type of person? By degrees, one could argue that point. We meet various types that are convinced that they are correct in all things and will not be advised otherwise, but I prefer to think of a locus as a person who retains an unshakable ideology. Faith, would be one such example - something that one might die for rather than change/compromise/consider otherwise. Pedantic? Not really. Unfortunately, the origin of the word in Latin is unknown, and one has to refer to Greek to get the sense of expansive meaning in this word. Damasio‘s book on how a person perceives reality though is fascinating and is well worth the read to gain insight into perceptions that we retain about ourselves - and by dint of omission, just how fragile our perceptions are! 👍

That book def sounds worth checking out. Thanks for the recommendation, Barnaby. 🙏
I like the succinct definition of the theory given by wiki. Good review for me 🤓

P.S found the following etymology entry for what it's worth to anyone. I'm a word nerd & I prefer this particular site to Oxford's etymology definitions, although not 100% of the time. Its a fun site to get lost on for me & my fellow wordy nerdies 😜😅

locus | Etymology of locus by etymonline

LOCUS: "place, spot, locality," from Latin locus "a place, spot; appointed place, position; locality, region,… See origin and meaning of locus.

www.etymonline.com

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

That book def sounds worth checking out. Thanks for the recommendation, Barnaby. 🙏
I like the succinct definition of the theory given by wiki. Good review for me 🤓

P.S found the following etymology entry for what it's worth to anyone. I'm a word nerd & I prefer this particular site to Oxford's etymology definitions, although not 100% of the time. Its a fun site to get lost on for me & my fellow wordy nerdies 😜😅

locus | Etymology of locus by etymonline

LOCUS: "place, spot, locality," from Latin locus "a place, spot; appointed place, position; locality, region,… See origin and meaning of locus.

www.etymonline.com

Nerd away! We need more nerds.

 

[CyndiaS]

Nerd away! We need more nerds.

Yesss!! 💯 🍻😄

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

That book def sounds worth checking out. Thanks for the recommendation, Barnaby. 🙏
I like the succinct definition of the theory given by wiki. Good review for me 🤓

P.S found the following etymology entry for what it's worth to anyone. I'm a word nerd & I prefer this particular site to Oxford's etymology definitions, although not 100% of the time. Its a fun site to get lost on for me & my fellow wordy nerdies 😜😅

locus | Etymology of locus by etymonline

LOCUS: "place, spot, locality," from Latin locus "a place, spot; appointed place, position; locality, region,… See origin and meaning of locus.

www.etymonline.com

There you have it….”position” and “locality” - within the person in this case. Ahh! The fluidity of words and their application.