Research Guide “Clouds” Mt 24:30

Jess

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I have read the below passage from the research guide 5 times and I stilll don’t understand it 😂 Maybe it’s the quotations on “see”. Maybe I am too literal when I read the Bible.

I’m gonna go to bed and read it again with fresh eyes and a cup of coffee ☕️ and “see” if maybe that will help. I am pretty sure Robert writes about this in “The Second Coming of Christ” too so will re-read that. But anyone else just find it confusing?

“When Jesus ascended into heaven, according to the record, “a cloud caught him up from their vision.” (Ac 1:9) The disciples did not see Jesus riding away on a cloud, but rather, the cloud obscured their vision of him. This helps us to understand Jesus’ words concerning his presence: “They will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory,” and Revelation’s statement: “He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him.” (Lu 21:27; Mt 24:30; Re 1:7) In past cases clouds represented invisible presence; but observers could “see” the meaning with their mental “eyes.” In this case the physical occurrences that are visible would cause the one looking to “see” or realize that Christ is invisibly present.—See also Mt 24; Mr 13; Re 14:14.”
 

Sunshower

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The cloud always reminds me of Exodus 13:21 Now Jehovah was going ahead of them by day in a pillar of cloud to lead them along the way, and by night in a pillar of fire to give them light, so that they could travel by day and by night.

That cloud was very visible to the Israelites.

Robert has explained that only Jesus disciples saw him after his resurrection. And the last to be anointed will be the first to see him coming back. Maybe after all the anointed have been gathered (the last and the first) those who choose to follow Christ as king will be able to see a manifestation much like the pillar of cloud? I don’t know, just putting my thought out here.
 

White Stone

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Exodus 19 gives us a glimpse of that day, but on a worldwide scale.

Exodus 1:9 “And Jehovah said to Moses: “Look! I am coming to you in a dark cloud, so that the people may hear when I speak with you and so that they may always put faith in you as well.” Then Moses reported the words of the people to Jehovah.”

Exodus 19:11 “And they must be ready for the third day, because on the third day Jehovah will come down upon Mount Siʹnai before the eyes of all the people.

Exodus 19:16 “On the morning of the third day, there was thunder and lightning, and there was a heavy cloud on the mountain and a very loud sound of a horn, and all the people in the camp began to tremble.

Exodus 19:18,19 “Mount Siʹnai smoked all over, because Jehovah came down upon it in fire; and its smoke was rising like the smoke of a kiln, and the whole mountain was trembling violently. As the sound of the horn grew louder and louder, Moses spoke, and the voice of the true God answered him.”


Imagine this terrifying event. The people saw the glimpse of Jehovah’s glory on the clouds, along with other terrifying activities that are happening. In fact, the people were trembled after witnessing these terrifying power of Jehovah:

Exodus 20:18,19 “Now all the people were witnessing the thunder and lightning, the sound of the horn, and the mountain smoking; and seeing this made them tremble and stand at a distance. So they said to Moses: “You speak with us, and we will listen, but do not let God speak with us, for fear that we will die.”

Remember that Jehovah came in the clouds. So also the same, Lord Jesus will come in the clouds, with power and great glory. But this time, to execute judgment!(Matthew 24:30) How terrifying must be on that day? The Bible says that even his enemies will see him. So as the book of Revelation says:

Revelation 1:7 “Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen.”

This “see” word does not mean that they will see the physical features of the Christ—his face, etc. But just as how the Israelites saw Jehovah God on Mount Sinai, they will see the power and great glory on the clouds along with other terrifying display of power on a global scale!(Matthew 24:27)

Zephaniah 1:14-18 “The great day of Jehovah is near! It is near and it is approaching very quickly! The sound of the day of Jehovah is bitter. There a warrior cries out.

That day is a day of fury, A day of distress and anguish, A day of storm and desolation, A day of darkness and gloom, A day of clouds and thick gloom, A day of the horn and of the battle cry, Against the fortified cities and against the high corner towers.

I will cause distress to mankind, And they will walk like blind men, Because it is against Jehovah they have sinned. Their blood will be poured out like dust, And their flesh like the dung.

Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to save them in the day of Jehovah’s fury; For by the fire of his zeal the whole earth will be consumed, Because he will make an extermination, indeed a terrible one, of all the inhabitants of the earth.”
 
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MickHewitt

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Exodus 19 gives us a glimpse of that day, but on a worldwide scale.

Exodus 1:9 “And Jehovah said to Moses: “Look! I am coming to you in a dark cloud, so that the people may hear when I speak with you and so that they may always put faith in you as well.” Then Moses reported the words of the people to Jehovah.”

Exodus 19:11 “And they must be ready for the third day, because on the third day Jehovah will come down upon Mount Siʹnai before the eyes of all the people.

Exodus 19:16 “On the morning of the third day, there was thunder and lightning, and there was a heavy cloud on the mountain and a very loud sound of a horn, and all the people in the camp began to tremble.

Exodus 19:18,19 “Mount Siʹnai smoked all over, because Jehovah came down upon it in fire; and its smoke was rising like the smoke of a kiln, and the whole mountain was trembling violently. As the sound of the horn grew louder and louder, Moses spoke, and the voice of the true God answered him.”


Imagine this terrifying event. The people saw the glimpse of Jehovah’s glory on the clouds, along with other terrifying activities that are happening. In fact, the people were trembled after witnessing these terrifying power of Jehovah:

Exodus 20:18,19 “Now all the people were witnessing the thunder and lightning, the sound of the horn, and the mountain smoking; and seeing this made them tremble and stand at a distance. So they said to Moses: “You speak with us, and we will listen, but do not let God speak with us, for fear that we will die.”

Remember that Jehovah came in the clouds. So also the same, Lord Jesus will come in the clouds, with power and great glory. But this time, to execute judgment!(Matthew 24:30) How terrifying must be on that day? The Bible says that even his enemies will see him. So as the book of Revelation says:

Revelation 1:7 “Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen.”

This “see” word does not mean that they will see the physical features of the Christ—his face, etc. But just as how the Israelites saw Jehovah God on Mount Sinai, they will see the power and great glory on the clouds along with other terrifying display of power on a global scale!(Matthew 24:27)

Zephaniah 1:14-18 “The great day of Jehovah is near! It is near and it is approaching very quickly! The sound of the day of Jehovah is bitter. There a warrior cries out.

That day is a day of fury, A day of distress and anguish, A day of storm and desolation, A day of darkness and gloom, A day of clouds and thick gloom, A day of the horn and of the battle cry, Against the fortified cities and against the high corner towers.

I will cause distress to mankind, And they will walk like blind men, Because it is against Jehovah they have sinned. Their blood will be poured out like dust, And their flesh like the dung.

Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to save them in the day of Jehovah’s fury; For by the fire of his zeal the whole earth will be consumed, Because he will make an extermination, indeed a terrible one, of all the inhabitants of the earth.”
Thanks: It's sure shaping up.
 
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