Sabotage or Coincident?

kirmmy

kirmmy

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Sundial

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SusanB said:
Putin or Xi.
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Well, it has been an entire day now and no reports? No explosions?
1. Dang that stealth is good! Or
2. The electronics on board were all manufactured in China and have back doors for hacking and it's in Cuba or Venezuela now. Or
3. The jet is controlled by AI and it took over like HAL in 2001 Space Odyssee ...

If it is answer #2 we are in a world of hurt. Looks like the chickens have come home to roost.
 
Dean

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Patricia said:
"How does the pale horse and it's rider cause death?"
Idk if this is what you're getting at or not but what I see is: 1)the horse isn't causing death it would be the rider so... 2) the rider IS death - personified and also the grave - personified-is following.
What causes death and the grave to "ride" is the riders of the first three horses. war, violence, the sword, wild beasts of the earth, then famine, food shortages, inflation, which leads to illness, disease, and other pestilences.
The other thing I see is, it appears that this is ALL man-made, with the personification of the riders.🤔 anyways that's the way I read.
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Your getting very warm - almost there
 
Dean

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Ms_ladyblue said:
“And I will appoint over them four calamities,’ declares Jehovah, ‘the sword to kill, the dogs to drag away, and the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the earth to devour and to destroy. ” ( Jeremiah 15:3)
This made me think about how Jehovah had Jezebel’s dead body taken care of after she was dropped from atop the tower.

“As for Jezʹe·bel, the dogs will eat her up in the plot of land at Jezʹre·el, and no one will bury her.’” ….( 2 Kings 9:10)

That was a prophecy Jehovah had given Jeremiah concerning Jezebel.

“But when they went to bury her, they did not find anything but her skull and her feet and the palms of her hands.” ( 2 Kings 9:35 )

I don’t know if this has anything to do with that. Probably no connection…but just wondered.
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I like your reasoning here Ms_ladyblue. What you have posted for a certainty is all sound scriptural reasoning. Lets compare your thoughts with what the WT Oct 15 1988 has come up with. I hope you're sitting down!

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True to the prophecy, mankind has suffered terribly from war, famine, and disease since 1914. But the fourth horseman also kills by means of “the wild beasts of the earth.” Has this been a notable feature since 1914?....

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What about today? In the developed lands, wild animals are not the dangerous problem that they once were. In other countries, however, wild animals continue to claim victims, especially if we include snakes and crocodiles among “the wild beasts of the earth.” Such tragic deaths are seldom reported in the international press, but they are notable. The book Planet Earth—Flood speaks of the many in India and Pakistan who “have died in agony from the bites of venomous snakes” while trying to escape from floods. India Today reported on one village in West Bengal where an estimated 60 women have lost their husbands because of tiger attacks. Such tragedies may become even more common in the future when human society breaks down and when famine increases.

You can’t make this garbage up can you…..This is the best they can come up with….It’s embarrassing!! Truly embarrassing……A few snake, crocodile, and tiger bites is evidence of 1914……..Run for you lives….. a wasp has flown in the house……..Clear evidence of the coming of Christ…….
 
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Dean

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Ms_ladyblue said:
Revelation 6 verse 8 says:
“And I saw, and look! a pale horse, and the one seated on it had the name Death. And the Grave was closely following him. And authority was given them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with a long sword and with food shortage and with deadly plague and by the wild beasts of the earth.”

My thinking on this is in line with what @Patricia says. She broke it all down really good.

The only thing is, where do the ”wild beasts of the earth” come in?
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evw said:
I don't know either, but it had to come from within v 8, so this was what I could think of. We see probably later or tomorrow if we have the 'price' :LOL: :ROFLMAO: :LOL:
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Patricia said:
"How does the pale horse and it's rider cause death?"
Idk if this is what you're getting at or not but what I see is: 1)the horse isn't causing death it would be the rider so... 2) the rider IS death - personified and also the grave - personified-is following.
What causes death and the grave to "ride" is the riders of the first three horses. war, violence, the sword, wild beasts of the earth, then famine, food shortages, inflation, which leads to illness, disease, and other pestilences.
The other thing I see is, it appears that this is ALL man-made, with the personification of the riders.🤔 anyways that's the way I read.
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StillA_WorshiperOfJah said:
By poisoning our environment and food source, pharmakia, limiting food production, inflating the cost of living, legalising and promoting abortion, preventing/banning anything that is good for us, promoting hatred and causing divisions.
Also, perverting minds, grooming children and sexually mutilating them, making it economically unfeasible to have children and other things they are doing to reduce fertility.
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Ok so you are all getting very warm. I notice Ms_ladyblue you are using the NWT.
Here is your next Tip.
Cross reference Rev 6:8 in the NWT with any other translation and the actual Greek in the Kindom Interlinear. (Something sinister is afoot!?)
 
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Ms_ladyblue

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Dean said:
Ok so you are all getting very warm. I notice Ms_ladyblue you are using the NWT.
Here is your next Tip.
Cross reference Rev 6:8 in the NWT with any other translation and the actual Greek in the Kindom Interlinear. (Something sinister is afoot!?)
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I know I should see what I read and comprehend what you say is “sinister” but it might only be a guess. How about another TIP.
 
Ms_ladyblue

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Dean said:
I like your reasoning here Ms_ladyblue. What you have posted for a certainty is all sound scriptural reasoning. Lets compare your thoughts with what the WT Oct 15 1988 has come up with. I hope you're sitting down!

Paragraph 6
True to the prophecy, mankind has suffered terribly from war, famine, and disease since 1914. But the fourth horseman also kills by means of “the wild beasts of the earth.” Has this been a notable feature since 1914?....

Paragraph 8
What about today? In the developed lands, wild animals are not the dangerous problem that they once were. In other countries, however, wild animals continue to claim victims, especially if we include snakes and crocodiles among “the wild beasts of the earth.” Such tragic deaths are seldom reported in the international press, but they are notable. The book Planet Earth—Flood speaks of the many in India and Pakistan who “have died in agony from the bites of venomous snakes” while trying to escape from floods. India Today reported on one village in West Bengal where an estimated 60 women have lost their husbands because of tiger attacks. Such tragedies may become even more common in the future when human society breaks down and when famine increases.

You can’t make this garbage up can you…..This is the best they can come up with….It’s embarrassing!! Truly embarrassing……A few snake, crocodile, and tiger bites is evidence of 1914……..Run for you lives….. a wasp has flown in the house……..Clear evidence of the coming of Christ…….
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That is hilarious Dean 😅
Concerning the article you highlighted, I thought I remember reading that ‘garbage’ you brought out. I remembered years ago when I read it how shallow their interpretation of what that part of the scripture was referring to.
 
Ms_ladyblue

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Ms_ladyblue said:
In NWT pages, “A prophecy’s sway” ?? I don’t get this riddle. 🤔

Can somebody help me here?

@evw @Patricia @StillA_WorshiperOfJah
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“Sway”, the way you’re using it can mean: “Swaying is usually a gentle motion, but if you're easily swayed, you're in trouble. That means you're easily influenced by others. People of power often "hold sway" over their followers, controlling them with the seeming ease of the breeze.”
I get the idea but it’s the tip or clue that you I’m not quite sure of.

“Something taken away“ means something WT took out ( a verse or out of context)
This would tie in with “in a sinister display“ which connects with the ‘fearful sights in the heavens?’
 
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Dean

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Ms_ladyblue said:
“Sway”, the way you’re using it can mean: “Swaying is usually a gentle motion, but if you're easily swayed, you're in trouble. That means you're easily influenced by others. People of power often "hold sway" over their followers, controlling them with the seeming ease of the breeze.”
I get the idea but it’s the tip or clue that you I’m not quite sure of.

“Something taken away“ means something WT took out ( a verse or out of context)
This would tie in with “in a sinister display“ which connects with the ‘fearful sights in the heavens?’
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Oops.....my dyslexia - up is down, right is left, etc Here is the correction
In NWT pages, a prophecy's sway, something added, in a sinister display.
or perhaps
In NWT pages, “A prophecy’s sway, something added not taken away
 
Dean

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Dean said:
Ok go on then
Tip - In NWT pages, a prophecy's sway, Something taken away, in a sinister display.
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Oops.....my dyslexia - up is down, right is left, etc Here is the correction
In NWT pages, a prophecy's sway, something added, in a sinister display.
or perhaps
In NWT pages, “A prophecy’s sway, something added not taken away
 
Dean

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Patricia said:
Nope. I don't see what's missing or different.
WT is in the business of swaying Scripture to suit them, but in this case???🤷‍♀️
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Cross reference Rev 6:8 in the NWT with any other translation and the actual Greek in the Kindom Interlinear. (Something sinister is afoot!?) then
In NWT pages, a prophecy's sway, something added, in a sinister display.
 
Patricia

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Dean said:
Oops.....my dyslexia - up is down, right is left, etc Here is the correction
In NWT pages, a prophecy's sway, something added, in a sinister display.
or perhaps
In NWT pages, “A prophecy’s sway, something added not taken away
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The only thing I see is the "long" sword
 
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evw

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Ms_ladyblue said:
In NWT pages, “A prophecy’s sway” ?? I don’t get this riddle. 🤔

Can somebody help me here?

@evw @Patricia @StillA_WorshiperOfJah
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And I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it was called Death, and Aides followed with him; and power was given to them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with wolves and with hunger and with death and with beasts. land. translated from a Greek Bible with Google
 
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