Salvation by Christ or an Organization?

[RR144]

How does the Organization itself answer this question?

“The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ.” Watchtower 2010 Sep 15 p.23

“A mature Christian must be in unity and full harmony with fellow believers as far as faith and knowledge are concerned. He does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and the faithful and discreet slave.” (Watchtower, August 1, 2001, p. 14).

“By submitting to the slave class, Gods people also show their subjection to the Master, Jesus Christ.”(Watchtower 2002 10/1 p. 19)

“This governing body is the administrative part of a ‘faithful and discreet slave’ or ‘steward’ class concerning which Jesus promised: ‘His master . . . will appoint him over all his belongings.’ (Matt. 24:45-47; Luke 12:42-44) So, recognition of that governing body and its place in Gods theocratic arrangement of things is necessary for submission to the headship of Gods Son.” (w72 12/15 p. 755)

Therefore, when we loyally submit to the direction of the faithful slave and its Governing Body, we are submitting to Christ, the slave’s Master. – (W 4-1-2007, p.24. par.12)

Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation. (Rev. 7:9, 10, 15) Therefore, we should start directing our Bible students to the organization as soon as a Bible study is established. (KM 11/1990, par.1)

Those desiring salvation must make for God’s organization, and find entrance into it and remain there permanently (W 10-1-1952, p.603)

We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval” (W 7-15-13, p.24, simplified version) It’s the highlighted box on the upper left hand column, p.24. Also on page 21 of the same issue: 17 But we are acting against Jehovah’s purpose if we do not obey the faithful and discreet slave

*** w93 9/15 p. 22 They Compassionately Shepherd the Little Sheep ***

But if we were to draw away from Jehovah’s organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy. (Compare John 6:66-69.)—

July, 2013 study issue: “2 The timely spiritual food we receive is proof that Jesus, the Head of the congregation, is keeping his promise to feed us. Through whom is he doing so? When giving the sign of his presence, Jesus said that he would use “the faithful and discreet slave” to give “food at the proper time” to his domestics. * (Read Matthew 24:45-47.) That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.—Matt. 4:4; John 17:3.”

 

[The God Pill]

I went subtly against the watchtower today was typical wt corporation = the way agenda in the zoom meeting keeping it Christ centric in my comment by identifying Jesus as the way the truth and the life, mentioning shepherd of hermas even calls him the gate, that carefully concealed in Christ are all the treasures of knowledge and wisdom, that love is what identifies Christ disciples and that those searching persistently will find the narrow road.

 

[MickHewitt]

How does the Organization itself answer this question?

“The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ.” Watchtower 2010 Sep 15 p.23

“A mature Christian must be in unity and full harmony with fellow believers as far as faith and knowledge are concerned. He does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and the faithful and discreet slave.” (Watchtower, August 1, 2001, p. 14).

“By submitting to the slave class, Gods people also show their subjection to the Master, Jesus Christ.”(Watchtower 2002 10/1 p. 19)

“This governing body is the administrative part of a ‘faithful and discreet slave’ or ‘steward’ class concerning which Jesus promised: ‘His master . . . will appoint him over all his belongings.’ (Matt. 24:45-47; Luke 12:42-44) So, recognition of that governing body and its place in Gods theocratic arrangement of things is necessary for submission to the headship of Gods Son.” (w72 12/15 p. 755)

Therefore, when we loyally submit to the direction of the faithful slave and its Governing Body, we are submitting to Christ, the slave’s Master. – (W 4-1-2007, p.24. par.12)

Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation. (Rev. 7:9, 10, 15) Therefore, we should start directing our Bible students to the organization as soon as a Bible study is established. (KM 11/1990, par.1)

Those desiring salvation must make for God’s organization, and find entrance into it and remain there permanently (W 10-1-1952, p.603)

We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval” (W 7-15-13, p.24, simplified version) It’s the highlighted box on the upper left hand column, p.24. Also on page 21 of the same issue: 17 But we are acting against Jehovah’s purpose if we do not obey the faithful and discreet slave

*** w93 9/15 p. 22 They Compassionately Shepherd the Little Sheep ***

But if we were to draw away from Jehovah’s organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy. (Compare John 6:66-69.)—

July, 2013 study issue: “2 The timely spiritual food we receive is proof that Jesus, the Head of the congregation, is keeping his promise to feed us. Through whom is he doing so? When giving the sign of his presence, Jesus said that he would use “the faithful and discreet slave” to give “food at the proper time” to his domestics. * (Read Matthew 24:45-47.) That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.—Matt. 4:4; John 17:3.”

You are on it brother they are selling the Org:
Hos12:2 Now they add to thier sin and make metal statues from thier silver (Sophie & Caleb's icecream money) They skilfully make idols (Ramapo) with skilled craftsmen (Volunteer professionals) To them the say 'Let the men who sacrifice kiss the calves! (and then praise W/T for using them) It's just as well they don't go door to door; I'ts not the good news of the Kingdom any more. It's Kingdom of the Foreign god Priests

 

[OnlyJah]

How does the Organization itself answer this question?

“The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ.” Watchtower 2010 Sep 15 p.23

“A mature Christian must be in unity and full harmony with fellow believers as far as faith and knowledge are concerned. He does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and the faithful and discreet slave.” (Watchtower, August 1, 2001, p. 14).

“By submitting to the slave class, Gods people also show their subjection to the Master, Jesus Christ.”(Watchtower 2002 10/1 p. 19)

“This governing body is the administrative part of a ‘faithful and discreet slave’ or ‘steward’ class concerning which Jesus promised: ‘His master . . . will appoint him over all his belongings.’ (Matt. 24:45-47; Luke 12:42-44) So, recognition of that governing body and its place in Gods theocratic arrangement of things is necessary for submission to the headship of Gods Son.” (w72 12/15 p. 755)

Therefore, when we loyally submit to the direction of the faithful slave and its Governing Body, we are submitting to Christ, the slave’s Master. – (W 4-1-2007, p.24. par.12)

Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation. (Rev. 7:9, 10, 15) Therefore, we should start directing our Bible students to the organization as soon as a Bible study is established. (KM 11/1990, par.1)

Those desiring salvation must make for God’s organization, and find entrance into it and remain there permanently (W 10-1-1952, p.603)

We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval” (W 7-15-13, p.24, simplified version) It’s the highlighted box on the upper left hand column, p.24. Also on page 21 of the same issue: 17 But we are acting against Jehovah’s purpose if we do not obey the faithful and discreet slave

*** w93 9/15 p. 22 They Compassionately Shepherd the Little Sheep ***

But if we were to draw away from Jehovah’s organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy. (Compare John 6:66-69.)—

July, 2013 study issue: “2 The timely spiritual food we receive is proof that Jesus, the Head of the congregation, is keeping his promise to feed us. Through whom is he doing so? When giving the sign of his presence, Jesus said that he would use “the faithful and discreet slave” to give “food at the proper time” to his domestics. * (Read Matthew 24:45-47.) That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.—Matt. 4:4; John 17:3.”

Today an elder answered in wt - we must obey the GB to the letter doing exactly what they tell us and when they tell us to remain safe.
Another said Jah is dependant upon us to exonerate him!

 

[BagdadBill]

This question is most easily answered by another question. Don't you hate when people do that? Every person who ever lived will stand inspection and scrutiny from our Creator and his son Jesus, who purchased us. No matter how well intentioned the Governing Body either are or tell us they are, they cannot stand with us when we have to answer to Jehovah for our course in life. Not my mom or my coworkers. Not even a good friend can offer even a word on my behalf.

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

How does the Organization itself answer this question?

“The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ.” Watchtower 2010 Sep 15 p.23

“A mature Christian must be in unity and full harmony with fellow believers as far as faith and knowledge are concerned. He does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and the faithful and discreet slave.” (Watchtower, August 1, 2001, p. 14).

“By submitting to the slave class, Gods people also show their subjection to the Master, Jesus Christ.”(Watchtower 2002 10/1 p. 19)

“This governing body is the administrative part of a ‘faithful and discreet slave’ or ‘steward’ class concerning which Jesus promised: ‘His master . . . will appoint him over all his belongings.’ (Matt. 24:45-47; Luke 12:42-44) So, recognition of that governing body and its place in Gods theocratic arrangement of things is necessary for submission to the headship of Gods Son.” (w72 12/15 p. 755)

Therefore, when we loyally submit to the direction of the faithful slave and its Governing Body, we are submitting to Christ, the slave’s Master. – (W 4-1-2007, p.24. par.12)

Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation. (Rev. 7:9, 10, 15) Therefore, we should start directing our Bible students to the organization as soon as a Bible study is established. (KM 11/1990, par.1)

Those desiring salvation must make for God’s organization, and find entrance into it and remain there permanently (W 10-1-1952, p.603)

We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval” (W 7-15-13, p.24, simplified version) It’s the highlighted box on the upper left hand column, p.24. Also on page 21 of the same issue: 17 But we are acting against Jehovah’s purpose if we do not obey the faithful and discreet slave

*** w93 9/15 p. 22 They Compassionately Shepherd the Little Sheep ***

But if we were to draw away from Jehovah’s organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy. (Compare John 6:66-69.)—

July, 2013 study issue: “2 The timely spiritual food we receive is proof that Jesus, the Head of the congregation, is keeping his promise to feed us. Through whom is he doing so? When giving the sign of his presence, Jesus said that he would use “the faithful and discreet slave” to give “food at the proper time” to his domestics. * (Read Matthew 24:45-47.) That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.—Matt. 4:4; John 17:3.

Yes, at one time we were all under this spell, not realizing that we were following their dogma of salvation by an organization instead of SALVATION BY CHRIST! Their unfaithful deeds will not go unnoticed.