Saturday, November 18th - Jehovah will enter into judgment with the elders

[Watchman]

Shepherd the flock of God under your care.—1 Pet. 5:2.

Jehovah’s people are united in worship of the one true God. Jehovah has entrusted the elders with the weighty responsibility of keeping the congregation clean. If a Christian commits a serious sin, Jehovah expects the elders to determine whether that individual can remain in the congregation. Among other things, they need to find out whether the person is truly sorry for what he did. He may claim to be repentant, but does he truly hate what he did? Is he determined not to repeat the sin? If bad associations led up to the wrongdoing, is he willing to cut off those associations? The elders prayerfully consider the facts in the light of the Scriptures, taking into account the wrongdoer’s attitude toward what happened. Then they decide whether the wrongdoer may remain in the congregation. In some cases, he must be disfellowshipped.—1 Cor. 5:11-13. w22.02 5 ¶11-12

Shepherding God's flock is a weighty responsibility. That is why James warned men that not many of them should be teachers since they will receive a heavier judgment. And the teachers of the teachers will receive the heaviest judgment; this, in accord with the principle Jesus stated in the 12th chapter of Luke when discussing the proportionate lashings meted out to the erring slaves: "Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him."

Back in 2005, I called for a judicial committee to be formed in New York to investigate the Governing Body's willing partnership with the United Nations; a partnership that required the Watchtower to use its resources to publish positive information about the UN and all of its many programs and initiatives. For 10 years the Watchtower dutifully complied with the terms laid out by the UN's Department of Public Information for associate-level NGOs. Millions of Jehovah's Witnesses, publishers, and pioneers, were the unwitting couriers of magazines peppered with snippets of information and some glowing in-depth articles about all the wonderful things the UN is doing. Of course, no inquiry was ever made into the Governing Body's apostasy. Instead, Bethel ordered my elders to convene a judicial committee, which eventually resulted in my being disfellowshipped.

The point is, that it is humanly impossible to fix what is wrong with the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses. That's because of the presence of Satan and those under his influence, who, like the superfine apostles, have cleverly disguised themselves as anointed ministers of Jehovah.

Since their secret alliance with the UN was exposed back in 2001 the Watchtower has only added sin to sin, as the scripture says. Dispossessing thousands of JWs from their Kingdom Halls is a crime that will have to be dealt with. Likewise, with their recent advocacy of gene-altering injections, the GB has added bloodguilt to their rap sheet. At some point though it all ends. Jesus cannot be bought off, bamboozled, or gaslighted. His fiery eyes can see into every dark corner and hidden recess. There will be no place to hide when Christ comes to settle accounts.

"As for my people, their taskmasters are abusive, and women rule over them. My people, your leaders are causing you to wander, and they confuse the direction of your paths. Jehovah is taking his position to accuse; He is standing up to pass sentence on peoples. Jehovah will enter into judgment with the elders and princes of his people. 'You have burned down the vineyard, and what you have stolen from the poor is in your houses. How dare you crush my people and grind the faces of the poor in the dirt? declares the Sovereign Lord, Jehovah of armies." - Isaiah 3:12-15

I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied

“I did not send the prophets, yet they ran. I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied.” — Jeremiah 23:21 Who are God’s people?

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Are you ready to judge them?

In the 20th chapter of Ezekiel Jehovah poses the question to his watchman: “Are you ready to judge them? Are you ready to judge them, son of man?” Ezekiel was qualified to judge them. He being a Hebrew and a son of a priest, Ezekiel would have been

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Woe to the Shepherds Who Have Become Feeders of Themselves

Some of the finest men I have ever known are elders and circuit overseers among Jehovah’s Witnesses. Most of Jehovah’s Witnesses would no doubt readily agree that the majority of overseers are honest, hard-working, self-sacrificing Christian men. Be that as it may, the privilege of tending to...

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[Paul H]

Dutch translation:

DAGTEKST ZATERDAG 18 NOVEMBER 2023 – JEHOVAH ZAL EEN OORDEEL UITSPREKEN OVER DE OUDSTEN

Dagtekst zaterdag 18 november 2023 Hoed de kudde van God die aan jullie is toevertrouwd. — 1 Petr. 5:2. Jehovah’s volk is verenigd in de aanbidding van de ene ware God. Jehovah heeft de ouderlingen de zware verantwoordelijkheid

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[SusanB]

Shepherding God's flock is a weighty responsibility. That is why James warned men that not many of them should be teachers since they will receive a heavier judgment. And the teachers of the teachers will receive the heaviest judgment; this, in accord with the principle Jesus stated in the 12th chapter of Luke when discussing the proportionate lashings meted out to the erring slaves: "Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him."

Back in 2005, I called for a judicial committee to be formed in New York to investigate the Governing Body's willing partnership with the United Nations; a partnership that required the Watchtower to use its resources to publish positive information about the UN and all of its many programs and initiatives. For 10 years the Watchtower dutifully complied with the terms laid out by the UN's Department of Public Information for associate-level NGOs. Millions of Jehovah's Witnesses, publishers, and pioneers, were the unwitting couriers of magazines peppered with snippets of information and some glowing in-depth articles about all the wonderful things the UN is doing. Of course, no inquiry was ever made into the Governing Body's apostasy. Instead, Bethel ordered my elders to convene a judicial committee, which eventually resulted in my being disfellowshipped.

The point is, that it is humanly impossible to fix what is wrong with the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses. That's because of the presence of Satan and those under his influence, who, like the superfine apostles, have cleverly disguised themselves as anointed ministers of Jehovah.

Since their secret alliance with the UN was exposed back in 2001 the Watchtower has only added sin to sin, as the scripture says. Dispossessing thousands of JWs from their Kingdom Halls is a crime that will have to be dealt with. Likewise, with their recent advocacy of gene-altering injections, the GB has added bloodguilt to their rap sheet. At some point though it all ends. Jesus cannot be bought off, bamboozled, or gaslighted. His fiery eyes can see into every dark corner and hidden recess. There will be no place to hide when Christ comes to settle accounts.

"As for my people, their taskmasters are abusive, and women rule over them. My people, your leaders are causing you to wander, and they confuse the direction of your paths. Jehovah is taking his position to accuse; He is standing up to pass sentence on peoples. Jehovah will enter into judgment with the elders and princes of his people. 'You have burned down the vineyard, and what you have stolen from the poor is in your houses. How dare you crush my people and grind the faces of the poor in the dirt? declares the Sovereign Lord, Jehovah of armies." - Isaiah 3:12-15

I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied

“I did not send the prophets, yet they ran. I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied.” — Jeremiah 23:21 Who are God’s people?

e-watchman.com

Are you ready to judge them?

In the 20th chapter of Ezekiel Jehovah poses the question to his watchman: “Are you ready to judge them? Are you ready to judge them, son of man?” Ezekiel was qualified to judge them. He being a Hebrew and a son of a priest, Ezekiel would have been

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Woe to the Shepherds Who Have Become Feeders of Themselves

Some of the finest men I have ever known are elders and circuit overseers among Jehovah’s Witnesses. Most of Jehovah’s Witnesses would no doubt readily agree that the majority of overseers are honest, hard-working, self-sacrificing Christian men. Be that as it may, the privilege of tending to...

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If ever a judicial committee should have been formed, it should have been to investigate the partnership with the UN. They added to their sin by trying to cover it up and those who knowingly assisted with their cover-up have well known biblical examples of others who unsuccessfully tried to hide their sin. And, if that wasn’t enough, they punished the one telling the truth. There is something truly despicable about betrayal. I think the most astonishing thing is that they obviously think they will get away with all of their sin. Think about that.

Mark 14:20-21: “He said to them: “It is one of the Twelve, the one dipping with me into the bowl. For the Son of man is going away, just as it is written about him, but woe to that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.”

Job 9:24: “The earth has been handed over to the wicked; He covers the eyes of its judges. If it is not he, then, who is it?”

Proverbs 28:13: “The one covering over his transgressions will not succeed, But whoever confesses and abandons them will be shown mercy.”

 

[SusanB]

The “ruling class” in the ORG is following in the footsteps of the religious leaders in Jesus’ day and this is part of what Stephen had to say to them, which has a similar application today as well.

Acts 7:51-52: “Obstinate men and uncircumcised in hearts and ears, you are always resisting the holy spirit; as your forefathers did, so you do. Which one of the prophets did your forefathers not persecute? Yes, they killed those who announced in advance the coming of the righteous one, whose betrayers and murderers you have now become, you who received the Law as transmitted by angels but have not kept it.”

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

If ever a judicial committee should have been formed, it should have been to investigate the partnership with the UN. They added to their sin by trying to cover it up and those who knowingly assisted with their cover-up have well known biblical examples of others who unsuccessfully tried to hide their sin. And, if that wasn’t enough, they punished the one telling the truth. There is something truly despicable about betrayal. I think the most astonishing thing is that they obviously think they will get away with all of their sin. Think about that.

Mark 14:20-21: “He said to them: “It is one of the Twelve, the one dipping with me into the bowl. For the Son of man is going away, just as it is written about him, but woe to that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.”

Job 9:24: “The earth has been handed over to the wicked; He covers the eyes of its judges. If it is not he, then, who is it?”

Proverbs 28:13: “The one covering over his transgressions will not succeed, But whoever confesses and abandons them will be shown mercy.”

I wonder if they even believe in Jehovah anymore. It doesn’t seem as though they do or even care.
Matthew 26:24: “True, the Son of man is going away, just as it is written about him, but woe to that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.”

Their lies and their cover ups will become known. Jehovah sees it all. But we know how patient our loving God is.
And yes, they obviously THINK they will get away with all their sin, but they fail to keep in mind the words Paul spoke at Hebrews 10:30,31: “Vengeance is mine; I will repay.” And again: “Jehovah will judge his people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

[PJ54]

I wonder if they even believe in Jehovah anymore. It doesn’t seem as though they do or even care.
Matthew 26:24: “True, the Son of man is going away, just as it is written about him, but woe to that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.”

Their lies and their cover ups will become known. Jehovah sees it all. But we know how patient our loving God is.
And yes, they obviously THINK they will get away with all their sin, but they fail to keep in mind the words Paul spoke at Hebrews 10:30,31: “Vengeance is mine; I will repay.” And again: “Jehovah will judge his people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

This comes to mind:

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10 seconds · Clipped by BobelPop · Original video "American Dad - The Rapture" by davester83

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[mts]

It is unfortunate to recently hear that the GB does not need to apologize for past doctrinal or organizational understanding. In the 2023 anual mtg they say, they are not "infallible" or "inspired", but yet, they are the channel that receives new light? How so if they are not inspired? If not inspired, then why can't their understanding be questioned without being labeled an apostate? Are JW's being directed through fear-mongering? How can they ask JW's to be politically neutral when they themselves are regularly quoting UN officials in their publications or online? How about quoting both political sides, UN and those anti-UN? At least that would provide two sides of the story to be evaluated. If the GB are not inspired or infallible, how can they claim to be the only channel of "new light"? Also, if anytime there is a doctrinal change, adjustment, new light, new understanding, etc., they say it's from Jehovah (but yet, they aren't inspired) - that does not leave any room for anyone to question them... as the understanding comes from Jehovah himself? It's one or the other, either you are receiving inspired understanding from Jah or not... can't play both sides. 😠 Apologies if wrong thread to share these thoughts, but @Watchman's JC for calling the GB out on being a UN NGO from 1992-2001, triggered these thoughts. Judgement is needed.

 

[Jeremiah17:5]

Shepherding God's flock is a weighty responsibility. That is why James warned men that not many of them should be teachers since they will receive a heavier judgment. And the teachers of the teachers will receive the heaviest judgment; this, in accord with the principle Jesus stated in the 12th chapter of Luke when discussing the proportionate lashings meted out to the erring slaves: "Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him."

Back in 2005, I called for a judicial committee to be formed in New York to investigate the Governing Body's willing partnership with the United Nations; a partnership that required the Watchtower to use its resources to publish positive information about the UN and all of its many programs and initiatives. For 10 years the Watchtower dutifully complied with the terms laid out by the UN's Department of Public Information for associate-level NGOs. Millions of Jehovah's Witnesses, publishers, and pioneers, were the unwitting couriers of magazines peppered with snippets of information and some glowing in-depth articles about all the wonderful things the UN is doing. Of course, no inquiry was ever made into the Governing Body's apostasy. Instead, Bethel ordered my elders to convene a judicial committee, which eventually resulted in my being disfellowshipped.

The point is, that it is humanly impossible to fix what is wrong with the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses. That's because of the presence of Satan and those under his influence, who, like the superfine apostles, have cleverly disguised themselves as anointed ministers of Jehovah.

Since their secret alliance with the UN was exposed back in 2001 the Watchtower has only added sin to sin, as the scripture says. Dispossessing thousands of JWs from their Kingdom Halls is a crime that will have to be dealt with. Likewise, with their recent advocacy of gene-altering injections, the GB has added bloodguilt to their rap sheet. At some point though it all ends. Jesus cannot be bought off, bamboozled, or gaslighted. His fiery eyes can see into every dark corner and hidden recess. There will be no place to hide when Christ comes to settle accounts.

"As for my people, their taskmasters are abusive, and women rule over them. My people, your leaders are causing you to wander, and they confuse the direction of your paths. Jehovah is taking his position to accuse; He is standing up to pass sentence on peoples. Jehovah will enter into judgment with the elders and princes of his people. 'You have burned down the vineyard, and what you have stolen from the poor is in your houses. How dare you crush my people and grind the faces of the poor in the dirt? declares the Sovereign Lord, Jehovah of armies." - Isaiah 3:12-15

I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied

“I did not send the prophets, yet they ran. I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied.” — Jeremiah 23:21 Who are God’s people?

e-watchman.com

Are you ready to judge them?

In the 20th chapter of Ezekiel Jehovah poses the question to his watchman: “Are you ready to judge them? Are you ready to judge them, son of man?” Ezekiel was qualified to judge them. He being a Hebrew and a son of a priest, Ezekiel would have been

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Woe to the Shepherds Who Have Become Feeders of Themselves

Some of the finest men I have ever known are elders and circuit overseers among Jehovah’s Witnesses. Most of Jehovah’s Witnesses would no doubt readily agree that the majority of overseers are honest, hard-working, self-sacrificing Christian men. Be that as it may, the privilege of tending to...

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I think about the account too at John 8:3 "And the scribes and the Pharisees bring a woman taken in adultery; and having set her in the midst, 4 they say unto him, Teacher, this woman hath been taken in adultery, in the very act."
where the scribes caught the woman in the very act... it was obvious that she was guilty...there was no doubt. They brought the matter to Jesus and he tells them...in vs 7 "But when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast the first stone at her."

This account was part of a trap really to catch Jesus breaking the law of Moses or of the Romans... but it does also show us that only Jehovah and Jesus are capable of true and fair judgement... because only they can read hearts... imperfect men are not capable of doing this and they may be guilty of their own personal sins as well... So to have judicial committees where men take this responsibility is not right or fair or true and just... and also Romans 14:10 " But why do you judge your brother?+ Or why do you also look down on your brother?+ For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.+"
and if John 3 :17 "God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge+ the world, but for the world to be saved+ through him."
who are any of us to judge our brothers and sisters...Guilty as they may seem... How is it Jesus didn't Judge...but yet we form Judicial committees to Judge our brothers and be the Judge, Jury and Executioner...

Luke 6:37 “Moreover, stop judging, and YOU will by no means be judged;+ and stop condemning, and YOU will by no means be condemned. Keep on releasing, and YOU will be released.+"

 

[Jeremiah17:5]

…also a side note. It’s so weird that John 8:1-11 for me is not visible on NWT bible on the JW app… it starts at verse 12…was that way for my computer and phone…is something being changed?

 

[Watchman]

…also a side note. It’s so weird that John 8:1-11 for me is not visible on NWT bible on the JW app… it starts at verse 12…was that way for my computer and phone…is something being changed?

The reason those verses are not visible is because they are not in the 2013 Edition of the NWT. They are in the old Reference NWT, but the span is italicized with the explanation that those verses do not appear in the oldest Greek manuscripts. Apparently, the editors of the latest version of the NWT decided to just omit the spurious text completely. There is a reference note at the bottom of the seventh chapter that reads: Manuscripts אBSys omit verses 53 to chapter 8, verse 11, which read (with some variations in the various Greek texts and versions) as follows: 53 So they went each one to his home.

 

[TheJehuChariot]

The people who write those WT articles should be buried 6 feet under. The fear and angst they instill within is egregious and gross. I spent my entire life from age 5 through my teens as a JW reading/hearing articles like this WT. The purpose, to instill fear and have ultimate control. Expel from the congregation? For what? Because of a fleshly weakness, a struggle with an addiction, multiple mistakes, pain, depression, etc etc? That's not what God and Jesus meant. Yes expel the wicked man Paul said, but go back and read the account. He was referring to a man sleeping with his step mother. Even the nations would deem such appalling. But to hold over the head of a teen baptized that he will be shunned and excommunicated from family because of falling weak to porneia, a drunken night, bad judgement, poor mistake, etc? Come on. I lived my entire life as a teen and well into my 20's and 30's fearing I was going to die at Armageddon for falling to a fleshly weakness. James, Jesus brother, said to confess our sins to one another. And confession first belongs to God whereas then the brothers and grease one with symbolic oil via prayer to help make prayer possible for the one with troubled conscience. But how many elders begin a judicial committee asking the sinner if they "firstly, asked God for forgiveness and have confessed to Him first?". The judicial committe arrangement is gross and is meant to act like a confessional. But even the Catholic Church aren't as harsh on their members. One can sin, but they aren't cast out of the church and community. Logic should prevail...we're not talking about murderers and pedophiles. Different ball game obviously. But the control WT has striven to have over the congregations members down to children baptized via this fear rhetoric to me is gross. It traumatized me internally my entire life and never fully was aware of it till I gained maturity. Staying away from fleshly sin before God must come from embarrassment and shame before the Father. Not fear of 3 men in the "back room" known as "the brothers" asking intimate, personal questions of your life, only to threaten you with the happiness in your life via family and congregation. Members can be counseled , disciplined and watched...but need not be cast out as JW leadership so much love to do. Fear and hate...is not the way to overcome sin. Love for God is. And being shown love is the quickest way to learn such love. Thank you Robert for the fine article highlighting the hypocrisy of the leadership.

Shepherding God's flock is a weighty responsibility. That is why James warned men that not many of them should be teachers since they will receive a heavier judgment. And the teachers of the teachers will receive the heaviest judgment; this, in accord with the principle Jesus stated in the 12th chapter of Luke when discussing the proportionate lashings meted out to the erring slaves: "Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him."

Back in 2005, I called for a judicial committee to be formed in New York to investigate the Governing Body's willing partnership with the United Nations; a partnership that required the Watchtower to use its resources to publish positive information about the UN and all of its many programs and initiatives. For 10 years the Watchtower dutifully complied with the terms laid out by the UN's Department of Public Information for associate-level NGOs. Millions of Jehovah's Witnesses, publishers, and pioneers, were the unwitting couriers of magazines peppered with snippets of information and some glowing in-depth articles about all the wonderful things the UN is doing. Of course, no inquiry was ever made into the Governing Body's apostasy. Instead, Bethel ordered my elders to convene a judicial committee, which eventually resulted in my being disfellowshipped.

The point is, that it is humanly impossible to fix what is wrong with the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses. That's because of the presence of Satan and those under his influence, who, like the superfine apostles, have cleverly disguised themselves as anointed ministers of Jehovah.

Since their secret alliance with the UN was exposed back in 2001 the Watchtower has only added sin to sin, as the scripture says. Dispossessing thousands of JWs from their Kingdom Halls is a crime that will have to be dealt with. Likewise, with their recent advocacy of gene-altering injections, the GB has added bloodguilt to their rap sheet. At some point though it all ends. Jesus cannot be bought off, bamboozled, or gaslighted. His fiery eyes can see into every dark corner and hidden recess. There will be no place to hide when Christ comes to settle accounts.

"As for my people, their taskmasters are abusive, and women rule over them. My people, your leaders are causing you to wander, and they confuse the direction of your paths. Jehovah is taking his position to accuse; He is standing up to pass sentence on peoples. Jehovah will enter into judgment with the elders and princes of his people. 'You have burned down the vineyard, and what you have stolen from the poor is in your houses. How dare you crush my people and grind the faces of the poor in the dirt? declares the Sovereign Lord, Jehovah of armies." - Isaiah 3:12-15

I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied

“I did not send the prophets, yet they ran. I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied.” — Jeremiah 23:21 Who are God’s people?

e-watchman.com

Are you ready to judge them?

In the 20th chapter of Ezekiel Jehovah poses the question to his watchman: “Are you ready to judge them? Are you ready to judge them, son of man?” Ezekiel was qualified to judge them. He being a Hebrew and a son of a priest, Ezekiel would have been

e-watchman.com

Woe to the Shepherds Who Have Become Feeders of Themselves

Some of the finest men I have ever known are elders and circuit overseers among Jehovah’s Witnesses. Most of Jehovah’s Witnesses would no doubt readily agree that the majority of overseers are honest, hard-working, self-sacrificing Christian men. Be that as it may, the privilege of tending to...

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[TheJehuChariot]

Robert I truly hope you maintain the Sunday talks. It helps me stay edified and something to look forward to. Often I feel a bit guilty not attending the "meeting" on Sunday. Unfortunately, for me to attend now would feel as empty as walking into a Protestant church. So having your meat like Sunday tall helps sustain the spiritual appetite, triggers necessary reminders and helps me attribute my Sunday to something spiritual in nature..

Shepherding God's flock is a weighty responsibility. That is why James warned men that not many of them should be teachers since they will receive a heavier judgment. And the teachers of the teachers will receive the heaviest judgment; this, in accord with the principle Jesus stated in the 12th chapter of Luke when discussing the proportionate lashings meted out to the erring slaves: "Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him."

Back in 2005, I called for a judicial committee to be formed in New York to investigate the Governing Body's willing partnership with the United Nations; a partnership that required the Watchtower to use its resources to publish positive information about the UN and all of its many programs and initiatives. For 10 years the Watchtower dutifully complied with the terms laid out by the UN's Department of Public Information for associate-level NGOs. Millions of Jehovah's Witnesses, publishers, and pioneers, were the unwitting couriers of magazines peppered with snippets of information and some glowing in-depth articles about all the wonderful things the UN is doing. Of course, no inquiry was ever made into the Governing Body's apostasy. Instead, Bethel ordered my elders to convene a judicial committee, which eventually resulted in my being disfellowshipped.

The point is, that it is humanly impossible to fix what is wrong with the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses. That's because of the presence of Satan and those under his influence, who, like the superfine apostles, have cleverly disguised themselves as anointed ministers of Jehovah.

Since their secret alliance with the UN was exposed back in 2001 the Watchtower has only added sin to sin, as the scripture says. Dispossessing thousands of JWs from their Kingdom Halls is a crime that will have to be dealt with. Likewise, with their recent advocacy of gene-altering injections, the GB has added bloodguilt to their rap sheet. At some point though it all ends. Jesus cannot be bought off, bamboozled, or gaslighted. His fiery eyes can see into every dark corner and hidden recess. There will be no place to hide when Christ comes to settle accounts.

"As for my people, their taskmasters are abusive, and women rule over them. My people, your leaders are causing you to wander, and they confuse the direction of your paths. Jehovah is taking his position to accuse; He is standing up to pass sentence on peoples. Jehovah will enter into judgment with the elders and princes of his people. 'You have burned down the vineyard, and what you have stolen from the poor is in your houses. How dare you crush my people and grind the faces of the poor in the dirt? declares the Sovereign Lord, Jehovah of armies." - Isaiah 3:12-15

I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied

“I did not send the prophets, yet they ran. I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied.” — Jeremiah 23:21 Who are God’s people?

e-watchman.com

Are you ready to judge them?

In the 20th chapter of Ezekiel Jehovah poses the question to his watchman: “Are you ready to judge them? Are you ready to judge them, son of man?” Ezekiel was qualified to judge them. He being a Hebrew and a son of a priest, Ezekiel would have been

e-watchman.com

Woe to the Shepherds Who Have Become Feeders of Themselves

Some of the finest men I have ever known are elders and circuit overseers among Jehovah’s Witnesses. Most of Jehovah’s Witnesses would no doubt readily agree that the majority of overseers are honest, hard-working, self-sacrificing Christian men. Be that as it may, the privilege of tending to...

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[Nomex]

If ever a judicial committee should have been formed, it should have been to investigate the partnership with the UN.

I wish I could find the talk that I have, where Ciero, or whatever his name is, said they just had the UN membership thing for the UN library, and then said something like it was "apostate driven lies" that there was anything more to it. I guess I could sit through all his talks again, but I scanned them last time I looked for it, even found one transcript someone had made, but still couldn't find it, but I remember it distinctly and I'm not sure I can stomach listening to him again, not that i know what I know.

 

[Nomex]

decided to just omit the spurious text completely.

It just demonstrates two things, what a horrible job WT has done teaching the actual Bible to JW's, and secondly, what contempt they have for us. They figured they'd just omit rather than explain those verses are spurious I mean after all, children only understand so much!!! What arrogant clowns they are.

 

[Nomex]

Not fear of 3 men in the "back room" known as "the brothers" asking intimate, personal questions of your life, only to threaten you with the happiness in your life via family and congregation.

I'm not gonna go into the details but when I was in my early 20's I had to sit through 3, maybe 3.5 hours of interrogation about an Ex, her parents had forced her to send my elders a letter, and they read parts of it to me, like I said for 3 + hours, and after it was done this is what they said to me, "You didn't do anything wrong, but be more careful in the future." ??? Which always struck me odd, because if I didn't do anything wrong, why did I need to be more careful....


Wait I'm not done...here's the icing on the cake, I found out later, that this girl, her sister and younger brother, were all being molested by their Father and Grand father. Oh and she left the truth and was DF'ed for a couple decades if I recall correctly.

But nothing to see here.

 

[Luis Ltj]

Mi experiencia como anciano, tratando casos de abusos en las congregaciones es triste. Mas de 2 décadas siguiendo las pautas de los dizque ungidos del cuerpo gobernante solo trajo dolor e injusticia en muchas victimas. Ahora , con su renovada política, solo se protegen los intereses de la sociedad. Tampoco borra los años d sufrimiento, algunos hasta apóstatas se han hecho. Me da pena y asco. Cuando pienso en ello me deprimo bastante. En oracion he renunciado como anciano ante Jehová y Jesucristo. No lo merezco.

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

I wish I could find the talk that I have, where Ciero, or whatever his name is,

Just in case you need to know his exact name, I looked it up to make sure. I’ve heard his talks too. His name is Ciro Aulicino. FYI on YouTube one of his talks was on Noah’s Ark, if that helps. There was no title given.

 

[SusanB]

Mi experiencia como anciano, tratando casos de abusos en las congregaciones es triste. Mas de 2 décadas siguiendo las pautas de los dizque ungidos del cuerpo gobernante solo trajo dolor e injusticia en muchas victimas. Ahora , con su renovada política, solo se protegen los intereses de la sociedad. Tampoco borra los años d sufrimiento, algunos hasta apóstatas se han hecho. Me da pena y asco. Cuando pienso en ello me deprimo bastante. En oracion he renunciado como anciano ante Jehová y Jesucristo. No lo merezco.

English translation according to Google (where it says “old man” assume he means Elder):

“My experience as an old man, dealing with cases of abuse in congregations is sad. More than 2 decades following the guidelines of the so-called anointed of the governing body only brought pain and injustice in many victims. Now, with its renewed policy, only the interests of society are protected. Nor does it erase the years of suffering, some even apostates have been made. It makes me sad and disgusted. When I think about it, I get quite depressed. In prayer I have renounced as an old man before Jehovah and Jesus Christ. I don't deserve it.”

I think that you have followed your bible based conscience and you have spoken in way that most would not have the courage to do. I am proud to call you a brother.

 

[Nomex]

Just in case you need to know his exact name, I looked it up to make sure. I’ve heard his talks too. His name is Ciro Aulicino. FYI on YouTube one of his talks was on Noah’s Ark, if that helps. There was no title given.

Someone gave me about 15 years ago or more, a CD or maybe a DVD with talks on it. It's about 4 gigs I believe, and I have a number of his talks on it, most are labeled OK, but I just haven't been able to find the exact talk. He gave two right after 9/11 that I have, I thought it was in one of those, but I didn't find, and that would have been about the right timeline. Although, now that I think about it, it would have been later because it wasn't made public until 2003....hmm...

 

[BagdadBill]

The most interesting facet of our God is that he lets us live in our own trouble. We make the mess and he doesn't necessarily rescue us from ourselves. If a congregation does tolerate an unrighteous teacher, have they not earned the right to be misled?
We are the same with government. God meant for there to be some who were leaders among us but not what we see in the political government today. Humankind is beautiful to God but mankind without God is a mess. We don't need overseers. We don't need elders nor ministerial servants who barely learned how to use language and speak. What we need is Jehovah to guide those who would take the lead.
In a perfect world you would only see your neighbor on odd days because that is when you would go help him planting or harvesting. You would trade your --- for his--- and the world will work just fine as long as you don't try to steal or cheat him out of his ???
We were given a time to work this all out and now we have the Great Reset. If I say anything about Klaus Schwab I end up sounding bigoted and he deserves bigotry if anyone. Living in Switzerland which is another name for hidden evil. May Jehovah let me find him drunk in a bar on the wrong side of town. Our time is short and it is difficult to hear some of the comments that are now coming our way due to the poison injections that being pushed onto us. It is pharmakeia which we were warned about by a God who is much older than the 2000 year warning which he gave us. God give us a warning from our own choices and gives us another 2000 years to consider that and here we are.
Probably two good farts away from complete destruction. God gives us time to work out the problems. The sin. What do we do with time? These days that involves a cell phone and selfies. We are not handnotes from god scribbling on a page of paper. We were designed and constructed by a blueprint which God had made in his own image.
To be honest, I have never seen God so when he says in his own image, I can read what people say that means but I don't really know what that means. We can think and maybe that is dangerous because most of us tend to think the wrong way if Jehovah isn't in the sentence we are reading in our mind. Read that last one again.