September 23, 2023: Daniel's 1290 days and the beast system timeline

[David1982]

Reading your posts about possible interpretations of end times prophecy, I wanted to share something I noticed putting side to side the global elites' timeline with prophetic durations provided in the Bible. Even as the god of this system, Satan doesn't have the final say in the overall chronology of our times, and he has to work within the calendar authorized by God. However, within that timeframe he has devised a schedule of his own, built on numerological symbolism, that his human agents revere and follow religiously while working to bring to life his grand plan.
The events leading to the final takeover of the wild beast are not happening at random, they are all scripted and orchestrated along that timeline. As if Satan wanted to conceal his deceit and malevolence, by wrapping them in the mathematical perfection that Jehovah created. The use of numbers and symbols allows his elites to disclose their plans in broad daylight, as required by their creed, while knowing that only a tiny number of people will be able to "break the code", and understand what lies behind the symbols.


The beast system timeline

As you all know, the upside down world we're living in is the consequence of a conflict between two protagonists. Symbolized as the Lamb and the Dragon in the book of Revelation, they are contending for the Earth's dominion. Satan's ultimate goal is to win every single human heart to his side, before Jesus intervenes to claim his property, by establishing a global rule mimicking and rivalling Christ's kingdom. Any reasonable person wishes to see the end of madness and suffering on Earth. How would they react after the great tribulation, when Satan impersonates an angel of light and provides that relief to mankind, through a "friendly" yet authoritarian global political system? This predicament doesn't appear anywhere in the WT narrative.

Satan can't create the kind of world that Christ's rule will bring, but he can do much better than the crazy mess we have today. Because he can't withstand an honest spiritual scrutiny before Jehovah, he has to manipulate us, and trick, overwhelm our emotions. Cause tremendous madness and hardship with one hand, and remove it with the other, leading humans to go where he wants them to go. This is what Revelation 13 describes, a rule of emotion over a mesmerized humanity. As I tried to convey in my eighth king post a couple of months ago, Satan's masterpiece is not the genocidal NWO/UN we have today, but its perfect antidote yet to appear.

The development of Satan's beast follows a chronology embedded into a reverse timeline, a countdown, defined by mathematical series. It is unmistakable to someone familiar with that language, the language of numbers. Over my lifetime however, I came to realize that what seemed obvious to many people of Jewish ancestry like myself, wasn't for everybody else. I guess it all becomes easier to figure out, when your brain is more or less wired like the kabbalists running the show...
It would take another long post to provide a thorough explanation of the maths shaping the timeline, and I'm not sure it belongs here. I understand that some of you might be uncomfortable with this kind of information, and would rather not know. I have to admit, it changes your outlook on life and on the future.

However, for a reason you will understand below, I wanted to bring your attention to one date in particular, a very symbolic one and a turning point in the program: Saturday, September 23, 2023. Because of its unique numerological signature, its position in the timeline, and hints from the elites' predictive programming, I had been expecting for some time that that date would see the wild beast come to life. Not rise to absolute power yet, only appear on the world's scene. As a consequence, the months or years prior would see its "birth pangs": instability, insanity and turmoil, as the controlled demolition of the old order and of its now obsolete anglo-american head would be in full swing.

As luciferians are obsessed with the coming together of opposite principles, what better day for the "benevolent" counterpart to the evil NWO to appear than the equinox, when light and darkness, day and night are in balance? But that happens every year. What makes that particular equinox unique is its position in the timeline, opening the final cycle while intersecting the date matching its master number...
The symbolism of that day as a day of positive change and spiritual rebirth for humanity was also "prophesied" 11 years prior, through a bizarre event: the global Jewish prayer for the return of the Messiah.

On Sunday, September 23, 2012, More than 2 Million Jews From All Over the World Prayed for Messiah — Song For Israel

On Sunday, September 23, 2012, (Tishrei 7) Jewish people from more than 80 countries prayed the same prayer at the same time across the world….a prayer for Messiah to come. It was announced on social media and a You Tube here shows the world-wide support. The worldwide prayer was for peace and for t

www.songforisrael.org

Daniel's 1290 days

So what does all this kabbalist nonsense have to do with biblical prophecy? In the final words of his prophetic book, an angel informed Daniel of two periods of days he could not figure out, that would determine end times events. The NWT says: "And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place, there will be 1,290 days." (Daniel 12:11)
This notion of constant feature is not very clear, to me at least, other translations speak about daily or regular sacrifice, like the NWT in French or the Contemporary English Version: "There will be one thousand two hundred ninety days from the time that the daily sacrifices are stopped, until someone sets up the “Horrible Thing” that causes destruction."

When the WT organization decided to suspend public worship globally, it immediately looked to me that the first half of this huge prophetic marker had happened. Much later, after the infamous update 6, I found Robert's site, and that he had written the same.
Of course, some would say that worship continued on Zoom. But from the perspective of someone outside the organization, it's like Jehovah's Witnesses had vanished from the face of the earth. The door-to-door, global public preaching work that we were famous for was stopped overnight and everywhere. Two years later, kingdom and assembly hall meetings still haven't resumed, at least nothing like they used to be.

 

[David1982]

March 11, 2020, was the final day of that old world. That day the WHO declared the Covid-19 "outbreak" a global pandemic. But it took until the following day for that decision to reverberate around the world. National governments everywhere quickly started rolling out authoritarian policies, with unprecedented lockdown mandates.

WHO announces COVID-19 outbreak a pandemic

Today, as WHO/Europe’s Standing Committee of the Regional Committee met, Dr Hans Henri P. Kluge, WHO Regional Director for Europe, briefed the group on the rapid escalation of COVID-19 in the WHO European Region, now placing it at the centre of this pandemic.

www.euro.who.int

In lockstep with "superior authorities", the WT organization danced to the pandemic tune since day one, and immediately suspended all public worship. The daily sacrifice of faithful JWs was stopped. According to what the angel said to Daniel, the appearance of the disgusting thing would happen precisely 1290 days after that event. Since we no longer use the calendar systems used back then, this is a convenient way to indicate an exact date within any date system.

The day 1290 days after March 12, 2020 is September 23, 2023.

Date Calculator: Add to or Subtract From a Date – Results

Results of date calculator - which will allow you to add or subtract days, hours and minutes from a date.

www.timeanddate.com

When the lockdowns happened, it was very eerie for me to see that a date I had been watching, be somehow "confirmed" by Daniel's prophecy, as the day "the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place". Some people might object that biblical prophecy has nothing to do with Satan's schemes, but keep in mind that the events taking place at both boundaries of the 1290 days are the result of his shenanigans. According to the context of Daniel 12, these periods of 1290 and 1335 days seem to be what Satan has been allowed to work with for his devastation phase, and they are shorter than what he wanted. As Jesus said, "on account of the chosen ones whom he has chosen, [Jehovah] has cut short the days". (Mark 13:20)
During that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book. (Daniel 12:1)

We were provided with this information and these periods for a reason, and they have nothing to do with the Slave's feats in the 1920s. The 1290 days are a marker telling us where we are in the chronology of the end. After that first period has expired, a second one, of 1335 days, will take place. But for this one, Daniel wasn't given any clue of a time or event to pinpoint its start or end. It seems logical however that it won't be too far off, once the first period has ended.
Happy is the one who keeps in expectation and who arrives at the 1,335 days! (Daniel 12:12)

I believe that period to be the time that Daniel 12:1 foretold, "a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time". Understanding Daniel's prophecy and what these durations represent will help those who have to go through those darkest days in human history. Knowing that their ordeal will eventually end, even being able to tell approximately when, and keeping in expectation of the wonderful times that will come after, when Jesus returns and restores his congregation. Even if they still have to face a whole world under the spell of the deceiver by then, the joy Christ's faithful ones will feel will be immense, as Jesus gives them his approval, and fully opens their eyes to the Truth and to the imminent blessings his rule will bring.


As always there would be so much to say about all of this. Despite what we are seeing today, I believe the "disgusting thing" has not appeared yet, and the full-blown tribulation will only happen some time after it does. Contrary to the "clueless-happy" mindset promoted by the WT, these events won't just happen out of the blue. They have been carefully scripted and scheduled by Satan and his agents to create global acceptance for Satan's deception.
The beast has to first appear in a world still standing, and bring peace and hope for a while. Making sure that it leaves a lasting memory in the hearts of mankind, who will remember with fondness the time when it seemed that "we" had finally made it, when global peace and security had happened. But then the forces of evil struck back and destroyed that dream... After much devastation, when the beast "that was, but is not, and yet will be present" is finally resurrected, mankind will be in awe and overjoyed with that unexpected turn of events. Then reborn as the invincible and authoritarian eighth king, mankind will worship and follow it with admiration, anywhere.

Since this place has people of a rare kind, Jehovah's Witnesses capable of critical thinking, I wanted to share what I understand of these topics for anyone who might consider it valuable. Sadly, "proper" JWs have been brainwashed to automatically reject any prophetic perspective that doesn't come from the "channel", even their own. If they couldn't see through the grotesque injection narrative, how would they possibly discern Satan's hand in events that the world will acclaim? How could they be suspicious of an authority that will "stand in a holy place", being endorsed by the WT and all other religious organizations?
What is going on within the WT organization these days goes much beyond ignorance and arrogance. Dark forces have fully taken over, and they are now setting up the brothers to jump into all the traps and deceptions that Satan will lay in front of us. The vaccines were just the first of many "impractical and illogical life-saving instructions".

As for me, I'm still that 6-year old fascinated with the Revelation Climax book (yes it made sense to me back then lol) and Daniel's prophecy. All I wanted was to walk in the shoes of Daniel, and try my best to make sense of God's secrets, in order to be fully awakened and equipped for these critical times. I would never have imagined that this attitude would some day be labeled "apostate"...

But here we are. We'll know soon enough, 17 months left to go until 23/9/23

Thank you for reading.

 

[LuisMerino9412]

I think that 2034 has more to do with all this. I think that the pandemic was simply an experiment about how humanity would behave under horrendous conditions that would take away all their rights. And it worked. It truly worked. This has gave them an idea of how will all behave when everything crumbles down and they want to impose their mark. Why do I say 2034? Well... It will be perfect in some way for Satan because it will be 120 years after 1914 and the last days before the Deluge lasted 120 years, so that will be perfect for the Watchtower and Satan to mislead and continue with their ridiculous dogma of 1914 and enough time for them. It also coincides with the UN agenda for 2030. I personally believe that the great tribulation or the last days will last 7 years. So, maybe the last days will begin around that year or 7 years before... In 2027... And by 2030, the beast will start its reign of horrible and tyrannical terror. It's just speculation, but there is a lot of coincidences here.
Why 7 years? Well, Noah and his family awaited 7 days inside the ark until the Deluge came and destroyed everyone. Nobody truly knows the meaning of the 7 times, but the king of Babylon went crazy during those times. This could mean that the governments of this world will be crazy for 7 years to be replaced for the one who is the most humble in humanity. And the 1260, 1290, 1335 and the other times mentioned in the Bible could be included inside that period.
Maybe, it will go this way: 3 and half years of the reign of the beast after some time with wars, famines, pestilences, the collapse of civilization and so on for maybe... 3 years and so?, 30 more days (1290 days) in which the chosen ones are killed, and 45 days more (1335 days) (40 days of the pouring of the seven bowls, including the destruction of Christendom, Babylon the Great and Armageddon, just like the Deluge lasted 40 days maybe this time it will take 5 more days) and Jesus throwing Satan with his demons into the abyss to start to reign over the earth after cleaning it and the beginning of the Millénium which will be beautiful. Hehe I don't know about this all. It's simply my thoughts. And I hope you find it interesting too. Hehe

 

[LuisMerino9412]

March 11, 2020, was the final day of that old world. That day the WHO declared the Covid-19 "outbreak" a global pandemic. But it took until the following day for that decision to reverberate around the world. National governments everywhere quickly started rolling out authoritarian policies, with unprecedented lockdown mandates.

WHO announces COVID-19 outbreak a pandemic

Today, as WHO/Europe’s Standing Committee of the Regional Committee met, Dr Hans Henri P. Kluge, WHO Regional Director for Europe, briefed the group on the rapid escalation of COVID-19 in the WHO European Region, now placing it at the centre of this pandemic.

www.euro.who.int

In lockstep with "superior authorities", the WT organization danced to the pandemic tune since day one, and immediately suspended all public worship. The daily sacrifice of faithful JWs was stopped. According to what the angel said to Daniel, the appearance of the disgusting thing would happen precisely 1290 days after that event. Since we no longer use the calendar systems used back then, this is a convenient way to indicate an exact date within any date system.

The day 1290 days after March 12, 2020 is September 23, 2023.

Date Calculator: Add to or Subtract From a Date – Results

Results of date calculator - which will allow you to add or subtract days, hours and minutes from a date.

www.timeanddate.com

When the lockdowns happened, it was very eerie for me to see that a date I had been watching, be somehow "confirmed" by Daniel's prophecy, as the day "the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place". Some people might object that biblical prophecy has nothing to do with Satan's schemes, but keep in mind that the events taking place at both boundaries of the 1290 days are the result of his shenanigans. According to the context of Daniel 12, these periods of 1290 and 1335 days seem to be what Satan has been allowed to work with for his devastation phase, and they are shorter than what he wanted. As Jesus said, "on account of the chosen ones whom he has chosen, [Jehovah] has cut short the days". (Mark 13:20)
During that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book. (Daniel 12:1)

We were provided with this information and these periods for a reason, and they have nothing to do with the Slave's feats in the 1920s. The 1290 days are a marker telling us where we are in the chronology of the end. After that first period has expired, a second one, of 1335 days, will take place. But for this one, Daniel wasn't given any clue of a time or event to pinpoint its start or end. It seems logical however that it won't be too far off, once the first period has ended.
Happy is the one who keeps in expectation and who arrives at the 1,335 days! (Daniel 12:12)

I believe that period to be the time that Daniel 12:1 foretold, "a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time". Understanding Daniel's prophecy and what these durations represent will help those who have to go through those darkest days in human history. Knowing that their ordeal will eventually end, even being able to tell approximately when, and keeping in expectation of the wonderful times that will come after, when Jesus returns and restores his congregation. Even if they still have to face a whole world under the spell of the deceiver by then, the joy Christ's faithful ones will feel will be immense, as Jesus gives them his approval, and fully opens their eyes to the Truth and to the imminent blessings his rule will bring.


As always there would be so much to say about all of this. Despite what we are seeing today, I believe the "disgusting thing" has not appeared yet, and the full-blown tribulation will only happen some time after it does. Contrary to the "clueless-happy" mindset promoted by the WT, these events won't just happen out of the blue. They have been carefully scripted and scheduled by Satan and his agents to create global acceptance for Satan's deception.
The beast has to first appear in a world still standing, and bring peace and hope for a while. Making sure that it leaves a lasting memory in the hearts of mankind, who will remember with fondness the time when it seemed that "we" had finally made it, when global peace and security had happened. But then the forces of evil struck back and destroyed that dream... After much devastation, when the beast "that was, but is not, and yet will be present" is finally resurrected, mankind will be in awe and overjoyed with that unexpected turn of events. Then reborn as the invincible and authoritarian eighth king, mankind will worship and follow it with admiration, anywhere.

Since this place has people of a rare kind, Jehovah's Witnesses capable of critical thinking, I wanted to share what I understand of these topics for anyone who might consider it valuable. Sadly, "proper" JWs have been brainwashed to automatically reject any prophetic perspective that doesn't come from the "channel", even their own. If they couldn't see through the grotesque injection narrative, how would they possibly discern Satan's hand in events that the world will acclaim? How could they be suspicious of an authority that will "stand in a holy place", being endorsed by the WT and all other religious organizations?
What is going on within the WT organization these days goes much beyond ignorance and arrogance. Dark forces have fully taken over, and they are now setting up the brothers to jump into all the traps and deceptions that Satan will lay in front of us. The vaccines were just the first of many "impractical and illogical life-saving instructions".

As for me, I'm still that 6-year old fascinated with the Revelation Climax book (yes it made sense to me back then lol) and Daniel's prophecy. All I wanted was to walk in the shoes of Daniel, and try my best to make sense of God's secrets, in order to be fully awakened and equipped for these critical times. I would never have imagined that this attitude would some day be labeled "apostate"...

But here we are. We'll know soon enough, 17 months left to go until 23/9/23

Thank you for reading.

It's very interesting too that around those days the "constant feature" was suspended. The preaching was suspended around the world and still is....

 

[LuisMerino9412]

And it's very creepy also that 1290 + 1335 is 2625 days. That is almost the same period of 7 years: 2520 days and 2300 mornings and evenings mentioned in Daniel 7 or 8. It's incredible! Chilling!

 

[LuisMerino9412]

I love your way of thinking and I feel truly identified. It's incredible and great! Hehe Since I was a little child I have always felt fascinated with prophecy and I love them! Great for you my friend and brother! Keep on ti! Love it and love you! From far away! Hehe

 

[David1982]

I love your way of thinking and I feel truly identified. It's incredible and great! Hehe Since I was a little child I have always felt fascinated with prophecy and I love them! Great for you my friend and brother! Keep on ti! Love it and love you! From far away! Hehe

Thank you for your kind reply Luis

Like I said, according to the symbolism put forth by Satan's employees, 9/23/23 seems to have been chosen to witness the symbolic birth of the beast, its first appearance on the world's scene. Not its rise as the beast of Revelation 13 yet. Many developments have to happen before. The old order has to go, and the world has to finalize its traumatic transformation, by going through the fire of the tribulation, before it is ready to welcome the new order. The beast has to first appear in its imperfect form, offer hope and be revered by mankind for some time, before it is engulfed in the chaos and disappears, to be eventually reborn as the invicible eighth king, the "perfect" solution to mankind's woes. Satan and his angels have to be cast down, and they will oversee personally the final touch to their scheme...

It's interesting that you mentioned 2034, because it's when the elites' timeline ends. I didn't want to speak too much about the kabbalist stuff, but well...

The timeline is built on solar symbolism and 11-year solar cycles. As you might have guessed with the Jewish "announcement" made exactly 11 years before the programmed appearance of the beast. We're at the end of a cycle, and the next one is the final one. It will stretch for the coming 11 years, the 2023-2034 period. It is expected to bring the final fulfillment of Satan's plan, the rise of his beast masterpiece from birth to total dominion over Earth.

But like you said, Satan is a master deceiver who can create parallel and misleading "fulfillment" of prophecy, so all of this has to be watched but taken with a big grain of salt.

 

[SusanB]

Daniel 12:11 is interesting and your commentary is interesting. However, when researching other translations and versions it does appear there is some confusion as to whether the 1,290 days is the time period from the removal of the constant feature to the disgusting thing being put in place. Some translations/versions say the 1,290 starts when those 2 things coincide. Do you have any more research to clarify that verse? The other question I have is that in Matthew 24:15 and Mark 13:14, ”those in Judea” are told to flee when they “catch sight” of the disgusting thing. So, I am also not clear that we must wait for the disgusting thing to actually be put into place.

Also, my first inclination is that the 1,335 days and the 1,290 days actually overlap, but I’m not certain. Very interesting subject. I’d like to hear more commentary on this.

 

[LuisMerino9412]

I will show you later a pic of how I think things will develop at some point in the future and you will tell me your thoughts. Heeh and about sept 23 and 2034 it's incredible how all this coincides. I had no idea about that and 2034. Lol haha and I love it! Haha. Maybe by 2034 the New World Order will have been established completely killing the chosen ones, destroying Babylon the Great and reducing the world's population to 500 million. Maybe that year they will have accomplished everything they have planned thru the ages, but Armageddon will destroy all their world that same year around the Passover or September/October/November just like the Deluge came around that time. Maybe that same year, after all that, the Millénium will begin. We do not know. Haha. But it seems like Satan has some idea of when will his world come to an end... Besides, in 2033 it will be 2000 years of the death and resurrection of Christ and I have heard also about all this numerology that there is a change for them and humanity in general every 2000 years... So many things coincide... Nobody knows the day or hour but we are living very interesting times my friends!

 

[SusanB]

I will show you later a pic of how I think things will develop at some point in the future and you will tell me your thoughts. Heeh and about sept 23 and 2034 it's incredible how all this coincides. I had no idea about that and 2034. Lol haha and I love it! Haha. Maybe by 2034 the New World Order will have been established completely killing the chosen ones, destroying Babylon the Great and reducing the world's population to 500 million. Maybe that year they will have accomplished everything they have planned thru the ages, but Armageddon will destroy all their world that same year around the Passover or September/October/November just like the Deluge came around that time. Maybe that same year, after all that, the Millénium will begin. We do not know. Haha. But it seems like Satan has some idea of when will his world come to an end... Besides, in 2033 it will be 2000 years of the death and resurrection of Christ and I have heard also about all this numerology that there is a change for them and humanity in general every 2000 years... So many things coincide... Nobody knows the day or hour ahaha but we are living very interesting times my friends!

Hi Brother Merino, I think that 2034 is a bit far out in the future. The world is deteriorating so quickly, right before our eyes. I did read how the globalists had planned on their takeover for 2030. But, but, I think Trump derailed that and they have now been exposed so that their power grab is now or never. People are on to them and not in a good way. They are facing an existential threat and so their time table has been moved up. It’s now or never for them. I have to wonder about Daniel 7:25: “He will speak words against the Most High, and he will continually harass the holy ones of the Supreme One. He will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time”. I’m not saying that applies to their time table but I think it likely applies to the beast trying to change Jehovah’s time table, who knows?? Jehovah will reveal it all and probably sooner than we realize. After all, Jesus did say he would come when he was unexpected.

 

[LuisMerino9412]

Hi Brother Merino, I think that 2034 is a bit far out in the future. The world is deteriorating so quickly, right before our eyes. I did read how the globalists had planned on their takeover for 2030. But, but, I think Trump derailed that and they have now been exposed so that their power grab is now or never. People are on to them and not in a good way. They are facing an existential threat and so their time table has been moved up. It’s now or never for them. I have to wonder about Daniel 7:25: “He will speak words against the Most High, and he will continually harass the holy ones of the Supreme One. He will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time”. I’m not saying that applies to their time table but I think it likely applies to the beast trying to change Jehovah’s time table, who knows?? Jehovah will reveal it all and probably sooner than we realize. After all, Jesus did say he would come when he was unexpected.

I don't think it's the time yet. Even the elite knows they have still some work to do before all their plans become a reality. We do not know, but I see throughout the Bible that Jehovah God only acts when a civilization is extremely wicked or evil and the good ones have already been chosen to be saved. There are truly wicked people now, but there are still very good people. People with a really good heart. If Jehovah wouldn't have destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah if he had found at least 10 good people, I don't think that he would act now immediately. I feel it close too, very close too, like breathing on my neck. Haha But I don't think it's the time yet. Furthermore, there has not been a cry for peace and security and the first strike given by the king of the south. I don't know, but I think there are at least still some years left, maybe not but, we do not know haha. As I said, we do not know haha nobody knows the day or hour, but I think that many good people must dissappear or at least change to bad in order for that to be horrible and that to come. But I hope it comes very soon. I'm tired of this, for real, extremely tired :'( :/ :'(. I hope this ends very soon...

 

[SusanB]

I don't think it's the time yet. Even the elite knows they have still some work to do before all their plans become a reality. We do not know, but I see throughout the Bible that Jehovah God only acts when a civilization is extremely wicked or evil and the good ones have already been chosen to be saved. There are truly wicked people now, but there are still very good people. People with a really good heart. If Jehovah wouldn't have destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah if he had found at least 10 good people, I don't think that he would act now immediately. I feel it close too, very close too, like breathing on my neck. Haha But I don't think it's the time yet. Furthermore, there has not been a cry for peace and security and the first strike given by the king of the south. I don't know, but I think there are at least still some years left, maybe not but, we do not know haha. As I said, we do not know haha nobody knows the day or hour, but I think that many good people must dissappear or at least change to bad in order for that to be horrible and that to come. But I hope it comes very soon. I'm tired of this, for real, extremely tired :'( :/ :'(. I hope this ends very soon...

And the great crowd being so large, no man can number must come out of the GT.

 

[LuisMerino9412]

Thank you for your kind reply Luis

Like I said, according to the symbolism put forth by Satan's employees, 9/23/23 seems to have been chosen to witness the symbolic birth of the beast, its first appearance on the world's scene. Not its rise as the beast of Revelation 13 yet. Many developments have to happen before. The old order has to go, and the world has to finalize its traumatic transformation, by going through the fire of the tribulation, before it is ready to welcome the new order. The beast has to first appear in its imperfect form, offer hope and be revered by mankind for some time, before it is engulfed in the chaos and disappears, to be eventually reborn as the invicible eighth king, the "perfect" solution to mankind's woes. Satan and his angels have to be cast down, and they will oversee personally the final touch to their scheme...

It's interesting that you mentioned 2034, because it's when the elites' timeline ends. I didn't want to speak too much about the kabbalist stuff, but well...

The timeline is built on solar symbolism and 11-year solar cycles. As you might have guessed with the Jewish "announcement" made exactly 11 years before the programmed appearance of the beast. We're at the end of a cycle, and the next one is the final one. It will stretch for the coming 11 years, the 2023-2034 period. It is expected to bring the final fulfillment of Satan's plan, the rise of his beast masterpiece from birth to total dominion over Earth.

But like you said, Satan is a master deceiver who can create parallel and misleading "fulfillment" of prophecy, so all of this has to be watched but taken with a big grain of salt.

Now the question is... What is exactly the beast for you? A human institution like the UN?

 

[LuisMerino9412]

Thank you for your kind reply Luis

Like I said, according to the symbolism put forth by Satan's employees, 9/23/23 seems to have been chosen to witness the symbolic birth of the beast, its first appearance on the world's scene. Not its rise as the beast of Revelation 13 yet. Many developments have to happen before. The old order has to go, and the world has to finalize its traumatic transformation, by going through the fire of the tribulation, before it is ready to welcome the new order. The beast has to first appear in its imperfect form, offer hope and be revered by mankind for some time, before it is engulfed in the chaos and disappears, to be eventually reborn as the invicible eighth king, the "perfect" solution to mankind's woes. Satan and his angels have to be cast down, and they will oversee personally the final touch to their scheme...

It's interesting that you mentioned 2034, because it's when the elites' timeline ends. I didn't want to speak too much about the kabbalist stuff, but well...

The timeline is built on solar symbolism and 11-year solar cycles. As you might have guessed with the Jewish "announcement" made exactly 11 years before the programmed appearance of the beast. We're at the end of a cycle, and the next one is the final one. It will stretch for the coming 11 years, the 2023-2034 period. It is expected to bring the final fulfillment of Satan's plan, the rise of his beast masterpiece from birth to total dominion over Earth.

But like you said, Satan is a master deceiver who can create parallel and misleading "fulfillment" of prophecy, so all of this has to be watched but taken with a big grain of salt.

Maybe we will see that... They follow that strictly. But I have realized of something. They have tried several times to bring their beloved NWO, but there is always something that frustrates their plans at least for the immediate moment. They do advance, yes, but maybe not like they want. You know why? Well, maybe it's because it's not Jehovah's time. They CAN'T do anything without Jehovah's permission and they know that. EVERYTHING must be in line with Jehovah's time-line.

 

[Nomex]

However, within that timeframe he has devised a schedule of his own, built on numerological symbolism, that his human agents revere and follow religiously while working to bring to life his grand plan.

First if all another fantastic post. You can make more like like this as far as I am concerned.

I have know for many years that Satan and his demons are obsessed with both numerology, and also symbolism, like the All Seeing Eye on the dollar bill.

I think though when it comes to numbers I think that has to do with the mathematical equations that have to do with the law of physics which restrict our reality in the physical realm to the mathematical laws Jehovah created when he created the physical universe. In other word I think it has more to do with mathematics than any time line, but that's just my random musing on why Satan and his Demons are forced to "obey" certain aspects of Jehovah's Laws, when they clearly disobey in so many other ways.

Satan's ultimate goal is to win every single human heart to his side, before Jesus intervenes to claim his property, by establishing a global rule mimicking and rivalling Christ's kingdom.

The fact you wrote this just proves I'm in the right place at the right time, because I was just talking about this very thing the other day about how Satan is setting up a "counterfeit" of God's Kingdom and why JW's in general can and already are being fooled by the beginning of it, in large part because they do not think any of the prophecies are going to be future fulfillment, and they are therefore asleep, because they think so much has already happened.


Since being shook out of my own stupor by the reaction to Covid by the GB and the acceptance by rank and file to their "direction" I keep having some deep insights that I couldn't have before since I had sort of "suspended my disbelief" because of the things the WT has right and I was willing to ignore much of the other things, I really thought they would wake up also by reality, because I really thought the GB were the "faithful slave." As soon as I saw how they just bought hook, line and sinker the completely obvious and provable lies coming from Satan's system from governments and media, it has forever changed how I see WT and everything they have done and been doing.

In any case while I don't think I would ever have been taken by surprise by the world events that are going to take place in the same way most JW's are going to, and the irony is it seems most of Christendom won't either since they look at government with far more suspicion now that the WT. It's just such complete irony to me having been in the truth for over 50 years being raised as one of JW's and being taught my whole life that Satan rules this world, and have it all ignored with Covid.

I'm sure there's more I can say about your post, but that was so deep I'll have to take small pieces at a time. THANKS AGAIN.

 

[The God Pill]

Apparently the Septuagint renders Daniel 8:14 as 2400

14 And he said to him, Evening and morning two thousand and four hundred days; and the sanctuary shall be cleansed.

But the dead sea scrolls agree with the masoretic numbering of 2300. So I'd generally stick to the 2300 numbering we're used to as default but not exclude considering 2400 when working out any prophetic models.

 

[David1982]

I'm sure there's more I can say about your post, but that was so deep I'll have to take small pieces at a time. THANKS AGAIN.

Thank you Nomex, I really appreciate

I'll try to provide meaningful answers to other comments over the weekend.

I feel compelled to share what I understand, though part of me would rather not challenge the mental picture of other people. The thing is, we're running out of time. Not to THE end, but to the end of the american order, and the stability and comfort we have known in our lifetimes.

I always say to people trying to understand prophecy to keep making sense of the big picture. What is Satan doing? Why? What are his goals? What is Christ doing? Why? What are his goals? Prophecy is like a puzzle. Once you understand what is going on, once you have created a correct mental picture of the model, it becomes easier to tell where every piece belongs. Most people don't do that, and try to understand prophetic verses in a "vacuum chamber", without taking into account that they are being fulfilled through the actions and motives of real beings and organizations, that they never acknowledge and scrutinize.

Sadly, it's even worse for JWs. They pretend to solve the puzzle looking at the wrong picture from the get-go. A picture taught, hammered into them for decades, and very hard to correct. For the diligent student of biblical prophecy, who really wanted to make sense of it and not just comment what the paragraph said, nothing ever seemed right in the Channel's narrative, every piece had to be forced into place.

Our lives and our understanding of prophecy have changed so much over the past two years, and it's not thanks to our own wisdom.

Like a loving father letting his children sleep as much as possible before a daunting day, Jehovah has let us oversleep in "spiritual paradise", but now the time has come to wake up, because times are changing.

 

[kenmuldoon55]

March 11, 2020, was the final day of that old world. That day the WHO declared the Covid-19 "outbreak" a global pandemic. But it took until the following day for that decision to reverberate around the world. National governments everywhere quickly started rolling out authoritarian policies, with unprecedented lockdown mandates.

WHO announces COVID-19 outbreak a pandemic

Today, as WHO/Europe’s Standing Committee of the Regional Committee met, Dr Hans Henri P. Kluge, WHO Regional Director for Europe, briefed the group on the rapid escalation of COVID-19 in the WHO European Region, now placing it at the centre of this pandemic.

www.euro.who.int

In lockstep with "superior authorities", the WT organization danced to the pandemic tune since day one, and immediately suspended all public worship. The daily sacrifice of faithful JWs was stopped. According to what the angel said to Daniel, the appearance of the disgusting thing would happen precisely 1290 days after that event. Since we no longer use the calendar systems used back then, this is a convenient way to indicate an exact date within any date system.

The day 1290 days after March 12, 2020 is September 23, 2023.

Date Calculator: Add to or Subtract From a Date – Results

Results of date calculator - which will allow you to add or subtract days, hours and minutes from a date.

www.timeanddate.com

When the lockdowns happened, it was very eerie for me to see that a date I had been watching, be somehow "confirmed" by Daniel's prophecy, as the day "the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place". Some people might object that biblical prophecy has nothing to do with Satan's schemes, but keep in mind that the events taking place at both boundaries of the 1290 days are the result of his shenanigans. According to the context of Daniel 12, these periods of 1290 and 1335 days seem to be what Satan has been allowed to work with for his devastation phase, and they are shorter than what he wanted. As Jesus said, "on account of the chosen ones whom he has chosen, [Jehovah] has cut short the days". (Mark 13:20)
During that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book. (Daniel 12:1)

We were provided with this information and these periods for a reason, and they have nothing to do with the Slave's feats in the 1920s. The 1290 days are a marker telling us where we are in the chronology of the end. After that first period has expired, a second one, of 1335 days, will take place. But for this one, Daniel wasn't given any clue of a time or event to pinpoint its start or end. It seems logical however that it won't be too far off, once the first period has ended.
Happy is the one who keeps in expectation and who arrives at the 1,335 days! (Daniel 12:12)

I believe that period to be the time that Daniel 12:1 foretold, "a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time". Understanding Daniel's prophecy and what these durations represent will help those who have to go through those darkest days in human history. Knowing that their ordeal will eventually end, even being able to tell approximately when, and keeping in expectation of the wonderful times that will come after, when Jesus returns and restores his congregation. Even if they still have to face a whole world under the spell of the deceiver by then, the joy Christ's faithful ones will feel will be immense, as Jesus gives them his approval, and fully opens their eyes to the Truth and to the imminent blessings his rule will bring.


As always there would be so much to say about all of this. Despite what we are seeing today, I believe the "disgusting thing" has not appeared yet, and the full-blown tribulation will only happen some time after it does. Contrary to the "clueless-happy" mindset promoted by the WT, these events won't just happen out of the blue. They have been carefully scripted and scheduled by Satan and his agents to create global acceptance for Satan's deception.
The beast has to first appear in a world still standing, and bring peace and hope for a while. Making sure that it leaves a lasting memory in the hearts of mankind, who will remember with fondness the time when it seemed that "we" had finally made it, when global peace and security had happened. But then the forces of evil struck back and destroyed that dream... After much devastation, when the beast "that was, but is not, and yet will be present" is finally resurrected, mankind will be in awe and overjoyed with that unexpected turn of events. Then reborn as the invincible and authoritarian eighth king, mankind will worship and follow it with admiration, anywhere.

Since this place has people of a rare kind, Jehovah's Witnesses capable of critical thinking, I wanted to share what I understand of these topics for anyone who might consider it valuable. Sadly, "proper" JWs have been brainwashed to automatically reject any prophetic perspective that doesn't come from the "channel", even their own. If they couldn't see through the grotesque injection narrative, how would they possibly discern Satan's hand in events that the world will acclaim? How could they be suspicious of an authority that will "stand in a holy place", being endorsed by the WT and all other religious organizations?
What is going on within the WT organization these days goes much beyond ignorance and arrogance. Dark forces have fully taken over, and they are now setting up the brothers to jump into all the traps and deceptions that Satan will lay in front of us. The vaccines were just the first of many "impractical and illogical life-saving instructions".

As for me, I'm still that 6-year old fascinated with the Revelation Climax book (yes it made sense to me back then lol) and Daniel's prophecy. All I wanted was to walk in the shoes of Daniel, and try my best to make sense of God's secrets, in order to be fully awakened and equipped for these critical times. I would never have imagined that this attitude would some day be labeled "apostate"...

But here we are. We'll know soon enough, 17 months left to go until 23/9/23

Thank you for reading.

As admirable as your research and suppositions are, the cold hard facts are written here:
36 “But of that [exact] day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son [in His humanity], but the Father alone.
Matthew 24:36

 

[Nomex]

As admirable as your research and suppositions are, the cold hard facts are written here:

I don't think he's saying that we know "the day or hour", it's more like "we can predict Satan's timeline by looking at the way he and his minions do things. Satan may very well be surprised when he is cast out of heaven, but I think it's obvious the closer it gets the more obvious that day is close. Satan and his demons can foresee the future, but on a much more limited way than Jehovah, and of course without as much accuracy. However, when those words were written that was 2000 years ago. Is it reasonable to assume Satan is going to be surprised by "war breaking out in heaven" and being cast to the earth? I don't think so. Maybe he still doesn't "know the day or hour" when he's going to be cast out, but he knows that doing certain things will result it that outcome.

 

[Nomex]

How would they react after the great tribulation, when Satan impersonates an angel of light and provides that relief to mankind, through a "friendly" yet authoritarian global political system?

This is particularly interesting to me because as I think I commented on your previous post Satan does NOT think "he's already lost." And he is counting on his ability to "impersonate an angel of light." When Jesus described the time of the end "as the days of Noah, so the days of the son of man will be", I think there is somethings that we might surmise that if we use our thinking ability may not make sense at first, but if we really believe the Bible, it should not be that hard to speculate that what i am about to say is not only possible but likely probable.

First of all I want to mention the things Jehovah has allowed...he allowed the rebellious angels to come to the earth take human wives and have hybrid offspring, wicked offspring even. And that went on for close to a thousand years. It is not obvious why after the flood they have not done that since. A friend of mine once said Jehovah does not intervene with miraculous power except to counter Satan's use of his powers.

With that in mind, it is not obvious why no one on earth listened to Noah besides his sons and their wives. I have speculated and this really isn't speculation, you had "gods" living among mankind, and certainly their sons displayed superhuman "magic" abilities as well.

Another piece to the puzzle I am about to lay out has to do with the "ancient alien" stuff in pop culture. Clearly that is the demons and back then, and i think they not only displayed great "super natural powers" but advanced technology.

I think once they are cast out of heaven, they will stage a "alien arrival" materialize bodies once again and pose as "alien saviors" for all mankind. What is the saying about history repeating itself? Perhaps they will "arrive" the "human" governments are overwhelmed with "human" conflicts...nobody listen to their "suggestions" on how to fix things, then the US falls, and then they somehow lead the "revival" of "human" governments by bringing in their "superior alien governing."

In any case I have thought for a long time in large part that all the "alien space ship sightings" abductions etc, have a larger part in their end game agenda...and then the last few years with the "ancient alien" garbage being pushed, and it all makes sense. They are after all aliens, since "alien" in this sense just means not from earth.

Jehovah allowed them to pose as who knows what, for almost a thousand years prior to the flood. He stopped them becasue they were trying to stopped the Messiah from being born, who's to say he won't let them do the exact same thing they have already done, "just as the days of Noah?"

 

[Carl]

The fact you wrote this just proves I'm in the right place at the right time, because I was just talking about this very thing the other day about how Satan is setting up a "counterfeit" of God's Kingdom and why JW's in general can and already are being fooled by the beginning of it, in large part because they do not think any of the prophecies are going to be future fulfillment, and they are therefore asleep, because they think so much has already happened.

I just replied to Robert's latest article with a similar thought.

 

[BrooksB]

This is particularly interesting to me because as I think I commented on your previous post Satan does NOT think "he's already lost." And he is counting on his ability to "impersonate an angel of light." When Jesus described the time of the end "as the days of Noah, so the days of the son of man will be", I think there is somethings that we might surmise that if we use our thinking ability may not make sense at first, but if we really believe the Bible, it should not be that hard to speculate that what i am about to say is not only possible but likely probable.

First of all I want to mention the things Jehovah has allowed...he allowed the rebellious angels to come to the earth take human wives and have hybrid offspring, wicked offspring even. And that went on for close to a thousand years. It is not obvious why after the flood they have not done that since. A friend of mine once said Jehovah does not intervene with miraculous power except to counter Satan's use of his powers.

With that in mind, it is not obvious why no one on earth listened to Noah besides his sons and their wives. I have speculated and this really isn't speculation, you had "gods" living among mankind, and certainly their sons displayed superhuman "magic" abilities as well.

Another piece to the puzzle I am about to lay out has to do with the "ancient alien" stuff in pop culture. Clearly that is the demons and back then, and i think they not only displayed great "super natural powers" but advanced technology.

I think once they are cast out of heaven, they will stage a "alien arrival" materialize bodies once again and pose as "alien saviors" for all mankind. What is the saying about history repeating itself? Perhaps they will "arrive" the "human" governments are overwhelmed with "human" conflicts...nobody listen to their "suggestions" on how to fix things, then the US falls, and then they somehow lead the "revival" of "human" governments by bringing in their "superior alien governing."

In any case I have thought for a long time in large part that all the "alien space ship sightings" abductions etc, have a larger part in their end game agenda...and then the last few years with the "ancient alien" garbage being pushed, and it all makes sense. They are after all aliens, since "alien" in this sense just means not from earth.

Jehovah allowed them to pose as who knows what, for almost a thousand years prior to the flood. He stopped them becasue they were trying to stopped the Messiah from being born, who's to say he won't let them do the exact same thing they have already done, "just as the days of Noah?"

Again I entered the mind of Nomex but this time I needed a flashlight because it got a little scary in there for a minute or two. Can't we just go back to the way the WT explains it to their flock and watch the GT on Fox News while we rock back and forth in our Bark-a-Lounger chairs while scarfing on popcorn? Or maybe a solid supply of Valium will get me through this oncoming mayhem that, in all reality Nomex, sounds completely plausible considering we are dealing with STD (Satan The Devil). I guess nothing comes easy anymore eh? LOL Nap time is officially over!! This stuff you guys are coming up with is adding mustard to the hotdog!

 

[Chloe]

I had visions of a book I once had. ‘In search of ancient Gods ’by Erik Von Daniken.
Freaky!

 

[kenmuldoon55]

This is particularly interesting to me because as I think I commented on your previous post Satan does NOT think "he's already lost." And he is counting on his ability to "impersonate an angel of light." When Jesus described the time of the end "as the days of Noah, so the days of the son of man will be", I think there is somethings that we might surmise that if we use our thinking ability may not make sense at first, but if we really believe the Bible, it should not be that hard to speculate that what i am about to say is not only possible but likely probable.

First of all I want to mention the things Jehovah has allowed...he allowed the rebellious angels to come to the earth take human wives and have hybrid offspring, wicked offspring even. And that went on for close to a thousand years. It is not obvious why after the flood they have not done that since. A friend of mine once said Jehovah does not intervene with miraculous power except to counter Satan's use of his powers.

With that in mind, it is not obvious why no one on earth listened to Noah besides his sons and their wives. I have speculated and this really isn't speculation, you had "gods" living among mankind, and certainly their sons displayed superhuman "magic" abilities as well.

Another piece to the puzzle I am about to lay out has to do with the "ancient alien" stuff in pop culture. Clearly that is the demons and back then, and i think they not only displayed great "super natural powers" but advanced technology.

I think once they are cast out of heaven, they will stage a "alien arrival" materialize bodies once again and pose as "alien saviors" for all mankind. What is the saying about history repeating itself? Perhaps they will "arrive" the "human" governments are overwhelmed with "human" conflicts...nobody listen to their "suggestions" on how to fix things, then the US falls, and then they somehow lead the "revival" of "human" governments by bringing in their "superior alien governing."

In any case I have thought for a long time in large part that all the "alien space ship sightings" abductions etc, have a larger part in their end game agenda...and then the last few years with the "ancient alien" garbage being pushed, and it all makes sense. They are after all aliens, since "alien" in this sense just means not from earth.

Jehovah allowed them to pose as who knows what, for almost a thousand years prior to the flood. He stopped them becasue they were trying to stopped the Messiah from being born, who's to say he won't let them do the exact same thing they have already done, "just as the days of Noah?"

“Just as in the days of Noah”.
That seems plausible Nomex.
The exact manner in which the eighth king miraculously comes to power isn’t revealed but surviving mankind so readily giving their worshipful admiration to him seems to indicate he won’t be just an ordinary human.

 

[BillyRay]

This is particularly interesting to me because as I think I commented on your previous post Satan does NOT think "he's already lost." And he is counting on his ability to "impersonate an angel of light." When Jesus described the time of the end "as the days of Noah, so the days of the son of man will be", I think there is somethings that we might surmise that if we use our thinking ability may not make sense at first, but if we really believe the Bible, it should not be that hard to speculate that what i am about to say is not only possible but likely probable.

First of all I want to mention the things Jehovah has allowed...he allowed the rebellious angels to come to the earth take human wives and have hybrid offspring, wicked offspring even. And that went on for close to a thousand years. It is not obvious why after the flood they have not done that since. A friend of mine once said Jehovah does not intervene with miraculous power except to counter Satan's use of his powers.

With that in mind, it is not obvious why no one on earth listened to Noah besides his sons and their wives. I have speculated and this really isn't speculation, you had "gods" living among mankind, and certainly their sons displayed superhuman "magic" abilities as well.

Another piece to the puzzle I am about to lay out has to do with the "ancient alien" stuff in pop culture. Clearly that is the demons and back then, and i think they not only displayed great "super natural powers" but advanced technology.

I think once they are cast out of heaven, they will stage a "alien arrival" materialize bodies once again and pose as "alien saviors" for all mankind. What is the saying about history repeating itself? Perhaps they will "arrive" the "human" governments are overwhelmed with "human" conflicts...nobody listen to their "suggestions" on how to fix things, then the US falls, and then they somehow lead the "revival" of "human" governments by bringing in their "superior alien governing."

In any case I have thought for a long time in large part that all the "alien space ship sightings" abductions etc, have a larger part in their end game agenda...and then the last few years with the "ancient alien" garbage being pushed, and it all makes sense. They are after all aliens, since "alien" in this sense just means not from earth.

Jehovah allowed them to pose as who knows what, for almost a thousand years prior to the flood. He stopped them becasue they were trying to stopped the Messiah from being born, who's to say he won't let them do the exact same thing they have already done, "just as the days of Noah?"

Fascinating comment, Nomex. Something I had never considered.

Edit: After the GT, which are humans more likely to follow? Another government created by man? Or one led by benevolent aliens, sent here to save mankind?