alan ford
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It seems almost like they are baiting
Seven Jehovah's Witnesses killed in Kingdom Hall shooting in Hamburg, Germany.
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alan ford
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It's because of bad formatting, so it didn't register as a link.
I don’t know why it didn’t post it here. But I thank you for posting it Robert 
Ms_ladyblue
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Another former witness sister told me that she thinks the shooting may have been planned and took place to create fear and that eventually WT will start making witnesses go on Zoom for meetings because of this kind of threat.
Yeah, I guess they’ll get ‘new light’ on how wise it will be to follow their direction in this matter. ( That’s my side thought)
Anyway she figures it will give the WT opportunity to sell off more Kingdom Halls/ property.
alan ford
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Thinking on it further, Lutheran church is pretty strong in Germany and maybe they perceive JW as low hanging fruit, and Satan doesn't wanna miss his chance to sow discord. This will probably give the Lutherans a reason to say "see how unchristian they are" since for a lot of people in Christendom JW are perceived as not being Christian because of non-trinitarian doctrine.
Sundial
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Perhaps this wouldn't have looked so bad if the GB had acted more quickly with some direct show of empathy. It just looks as a weak reaction due to public embarrassment.
Okay, I am done playing by their rules. I have used a few different emails but the WT has blocked me.
(It is possible that these emails are only accessible within the jw.org server. But that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.) Below are some emails of GB and other Bethelites. And there's more where these came from. Please pick one or two and email them a copy of the latest Kingdom Bulletin. Paste the contents of the article and give it a unique title, like How could this happen? Or Why did Jehovah allow murder in the kingdom hall? Or Tragedy in Hamburg. Please post here who you contacted so others do not email the same person. The goal is to generate a little buzz. Your help is much appreciated.
msanderson@jw.org
dsplane@jw.org
sherd@jw.org
gjackson@jw.org
kcook@jw.org
glosch@jw.org
mstephenlett@jw.org
rdemingmoake@jw.org
jekrann@jw.org
wturner@jw.org
kcook@jw.org
jwischuk@jw.org
rwallen@jw.org
ggrizzle@jw.org
(It is possible that these emails are only accessible within the jw.org server. But that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.) Below are some emails of GB and other Bethelites. And there's more where these came from. Please pick one or two and email them a copy of the latest Kingdom Bulletin. Paste the contents of the article and give it a unique title, like How could this happen? Or Why did Jehovah allow murder in the kingdom hall? Or Tragedy in Hamburg. Please post here who you contacted so others do not email the same person. The goal is to generate a little buzz. Your help is much appreciated.
msanderson@jw.org
dsplane@jw.org
sherd@jw.org
gjackson@jw.org
kcook@jw.org
glosch@jw.org
mstephenlett@jw.org
rdemingmoake@jw.org
jekrann@jw.org
wturner@jw.org
kcook@jw.org
jwischuk@jw.org
rwallen@jw.org
ggrizzle@jw.org
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From another thread: I have emailed the above article to over 1,000 elders, including all the GB and their helpers and department heads. I am snail-mailing every assembly hall in the USA and every branch. At least they still have mailboxes. If you have the email or physical mailing address of an elder or circuit overseer please email me at watchmanspost@gmail.com Thanks.
Eyes & Ears
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Same with me. Mikey is a big distraction. But Kim does have useful info at times.
I don't understand; why not a polite thank you for your concern but we will have a funeral meeting later this month and you are welcome to it.
Isn't that the meaning of Romans 12 verse 20 "......for by doing this you will heap fiery coals on his head" ?
The God Pill
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Son of perdition as a term appears in jubilees 10 in the opening of a prayer of Noah. Nephilim are called sons of perdition like Judah of Kerioth and the man of lawlessness/sin (1 John 3:4 sin is lawlessness)
'God of the spirits of all flesh, who hast shown mercy unto me
And hast saved me and my sons from the waters of the flood,
And hast not caused me to perish as Thou didst the sons of perdition;
'God of the spirits of all flesh, who hast shown mercy unto me
And hast saved me and my sons from the waters of the flood,
And hast not caused me to perish as Thou didst the sons of perdition;
Truthseeker
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Makes sense!
The God Pill
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It's pathetic most in christendom try to exclude non trinitarians from the category of Christians given as you've probably read in Justin's writings if I remember right he did not consider some Jewish Christians that denied Christ preexisting as non Christians as much as he rightfully disagreed with their christology
Eventhorizon
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Sorry for the link to reddit, but what does everybody think about this letter? German Letter
Has to be one of the most insensitive and shameless self promotion - Not to mention using the verbage "We are pleased to inform you..." Seriously?
Has to be one of the most insensitive and shameless self promotion - Not to mention using the verbage "We are pleased to inform you..." Seriously?
Ms_ladyblue
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Jehovahsloyalchild
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I haven't been on JW.org and had no idea they actually replaced the Hamburg shooting announcement with GB Update and the update make ZERO mention of the shooting. Like Wow anything to sweep anything that reflects poorly on the org under the rug. I am truly curious what spiritual support if any they are providing considering the WT wants to pretend like it never happened. It's truly disgusting abd sickening. The rotten fruit they bare is becoming more and more obvious. Slaves of money not of God with ferocious appetites. Shepherds with no understanding. Blind due to their wayward unrighteous ways. They stay blind because they love unrighteousness and their reputation is worth more than repentance, and acknowledgement of their wicked ways. Their tables are full of vomit and they make commands as if the are Jehovah God. They may be able to fool the R&F but they are not fooling the most High God Jehovah. Retribution is coming.
Isaiah 56
His watchmen are blind, none of them have taken note.
All of them are speechless dogs, unable to bark.
They are panting and lying down; they love to slumber.
11 They are dogs with a voracious appetite;*
They are never satisfied.
They are shepherds who have no understanding.
They have all gone their own way;
Every last one of them seeks his own dishonest gain and says:
12 “Come, let me take some wine,
And let us drink our fill of alcohol.
And tomorrow will be like today, only far better!”
Isaiah 28
For their tables are full of filthy vomit
—There is no place without it.
9 To whom will one impart knowledge,
And to whom will one explain the message?
To those who have just been weaned from milk,
Those just taken away from the breasts?
10 For it is “command after command, command after command,
Line by line, line by line,*
A little here, a little there.”
11 So by means of those with stammering speech* and a foreign language, he will speak to this people. 12 He once told them: “This is the resting-place. Let the weary one rest; this is the place of refreshment,” but they refused to listen. 13 So to them the word of Jehovah will be:
“Command after command, command after command,
Line by line, line by line,*
A little here, a little there,”
So that when they walk,
They will stumble and fall backward
And be broken and ensnared and caught.
14 So hear the word of Jehovah, you boasters,
You rulers of this people in Jerusalem,
15 For you men say:
“We have made a covenant with Death,
And with the Grave* we have made an agreement.*
When the raging flash flood passes through,
It will not reach us,
For we have made a lie our refuge
And we have hidden ourselves in falsehood.”
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PJ54
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Sounds like the letter is going through the motions.
PJ54
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This is why I think when the disbanding/scattering comes, the false Christs & prophets won't just be the Org itself. It'll include Christendom, Judaism, Islam, etc.
Eventhorizon
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It appears to be a pattern that the positive announcements get about a week of exposure(GB announcement, new GB drones, etc etc). The Hamburg announcement only got 3-4 days (and the Morris announcement about 3 days, although buried deep behind the news)
Eventhorizon
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Also, they have announced that as the limited tours resume, that one must have a JWHub Login to schedule, and that the cong service committee should serve as a security checkpoint to make sure that ones with "safety and security" concerns don't get scheduled, and the service committee should communicate why this individual will not be permitted to tour. And if they feel the individual will try to go anyway, they should alert branch office immediately
No one wants to send a single email? How disappointing