Should I Give up on Dating?

PJ54

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Not much experience with them toying with people's emotions but I've observed the spidery ones attempt at amplifying anger on one occasion
I remember demons messing with me. Before I was in the truth I used to see them all the time. They would take all sorts of shapes & forms, I remember one attempting to possess me & I had a violent seizure as t happened. I almost gave in but thank God I didn't.
 

Jahrule

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I remember demons messing with me. Before I was in the truth I used to see them all the time. They would take all sorts of shapes & forms, I remember one attempting to possess me & I had a violent seizure as t happened. I almost gave in but thank God I didn't.
I don't see them physically. Well, that's not true. Maybe I did. But that's another story. Regardless, they're everywhere.
 

Theocratic Fascist

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I don't see them physically. Well, that's not true. Maybe I did. But that's another story. Regardless, they're everywhere.
Interesting… I’ve never seen them physically either. There was a period of time that I was involved in Satanism and I didn’t even have any encounters then. I do feel their influence when it comes to certain weaknesses I have. “Pulling me toward the dark side” as certain Star Wars characters might put it. I feel especially vulnerable to it the closer I get to God. Like it’s some kind of test. The stronger I get, the stronger the pull.
 

Jahrule

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Interesting… I’ve never seen them physically either. There was a period of time that I was involved in Satanism and I didn’t even have any encounters then. I do feel their influence when it comes to certain weaknesses I have. “Pulling me toward the dark side” as certain Star Wars characters might put it. I feel especially vulnerable to it the closer I get to God. Like it’s some kind of test. The stronger I get, the stronger the pull.
Look into the shadow people. They're definitely here. They claim it's just sleep paralysis, drugs, or sleep deprivation that causes it, but I think those things merely trigger a fleeting glimpse of them as a brief apparition.

 

Watchman

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Demons do attach themselves to certain objects. Do not belittle it. By doing so they possess that thing. They own it. When someone innocently obtains the owned object the demons can gain entry into the receiver's life. I had a girlfriend who bought a shawl at a second-hand shop and it was already owned by certain dark entities. They visited her one night and tried to consummate the relationship. She was totally terrified.

 

Sundial

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Look into the shadow people. They're definitely here. They claim it's just sleep paralysis, drugs, or sleep deprivation that causes it, but I think those things merely trigger a fleeting glimpse of them as a brief apparition.

Noooo, it is not worth investigating. You get tagged, and you may stay a person of interest for the rest of your life. (Do not put Jehovah to the test).
 

TheJehuChariot

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Interesting… I’ve never seen them physically either. There was a period of time that I was involved in Satanism and I didn’t even have any encounters then. I do feel their influence when it comes to certain weaknesses I have. “Pulling me toward the dark side” as certain Star Wars characters might put it. I feel especially vulnerable to it the closer I get to God. Like it’s some kind of test. The stronger I get, the stronger the pull.
2 Chronicles 32: 31
 

Jahrule

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Demons do attach themselves to certain objects. Do not belittle it. By doing so they possess that thing. They own it. When someone innocently obtains the owned object the demons can gain entry into the receiver's life. I had a girlfriend who bought a shawl at a second-hand shop and it was already owned by certain dark entities. They visited her one night and tried to consummate the relationship. She was totally terrified.

Yeah. I had a totem once that was definitely possessed by something. I think they can imprint on certain areas too. Sometimes I can enter a certain location and feel them there. Like I was invading their territory.
 

Jahrule

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Noooo, it is not worth investigating. You get tagged, and you may stay a person of interest for the rest of your life. (Do not put Jehovah to the test).
I don't believe knowing about them in general is putting Jah to the test. I wouldn't use a Ouija board or Tarot cards, but I would investigate the history of either of them. I think there's a difference between knowing your enemy and entertaining them. It's something I could be wrong about, but that's my conscious decision regarding the boundaries I set up.
 

TheJehuChariot

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I don't believe knowing about them in general is putting Jah to the test. I wouldn't use a Ouija board or Tarot cards, but I would investigate the history of either of them. I think there's a difference between knowing your enemy and entertaining them. It's something I could be wrong about, but that's my conscious decision regarding the boundaries I set up.
Gods Word provides us all the information we need on the invisible spirit world. No need to explore elsewhere on that subject.
 

Jahrule

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I'm not advocating for reading books on black magic or anything. I just believe the real world should be documented and understood as much as possible.
 

Soul Sage

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I feel torn about the issue. In one way I feel like I'm being selfish by keeping to myself and not getting with a woman and not starting a family. As I'm thinking what she wants from me. On the other hand, I feel like I'm being selfish by desiring a woman to share my life with. And not to be lonely at an old age, as I seen childless parents feel alone and depressed for never having children to grow with. I guess it goes both ways. There's no right or wrong answer. I do feel like if I never married or had kids, I would feel bitter and alone. I know that in research studies, that when a man has a wife with children and later grandkids, he is expected to live a longer life compared to a man that is old and alone and doesn't have that same kind of motivation to live as long.
 

Jahrule

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I feel torn about the issue. In one way I feel like I'm being selfish by keeping to myself and not getting with a woman and not starting a family. As I'm thinking what she wants from me. On the other hand, I feel like I'm being selfish by desiring a woman to share my life with. And not to be lonely at an old age, as I seen childless parents feel alone and depressed for never having children to grow with. I guess it goes both ways. There's no right or wrong answer. I do feel like if I never married or had kids, I would feel bitter and alone. I know that in research studies, that when a man has a wife with children and later grandkids, he is expected to live a longer life compared to a man that is old and alone and doesn't have that same kind of motivation to live as long.
I've had similar thoughts too
 

TheJehuChariot

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On the other hand, I feel like I'm being selfish by desiring a woman to share my life with.
What I want to know is, why do Governing Body members have the insatiable need to be married and to be with a Woman, IF there hope is soon to be in heaven. Think about it for a second. They profess to one day be in position "before the face of God". In His presence, his dwelling. Seriously, can you imagine anything more exquisite, perfect, fulfilling, divine then to actually be in the presence....literally at His feet, the Holy Father, Creator of every imaginable, tangible thing. Youd think, that each GB who claims to be riddled with holy spirit to such an extent that their calling is so undeniable by the Father, that all they'd care about is to, "get to Him". The thought gives me goosebumps and butterflies in my stomach. Yet, ones like Geoffrey Jackson need to run off and marry an islander woman much less his age. For what? To caresses and satisfy his aged bones? Makes me sick frankly. Especially when I read poor blokes like yourself (and me), frustrated at not having "The Feminine" to hold each night. The apostle Paul, in order to have been part of the Sanhedrin as Saul, had to be married to qualify. Therefore, at some point Paul experienced all that said bliss and female accompaniment. However, as Paul when he received his flash of light Damascus moment, everything obviously changed. As regards marriage, etc... he'd most likely done that. NOW, he had just seen Jesus. So upward and onward to better more divine things. Thus why he could personally recommend staying single. So if you blokes don't profess to one day literally see God, get over it and go find your companion. There's nothing selfish about it. It is what God intended and purposed. And should you choose to wait till Paradise, well He through Jesus will mandate that eventually every human be married at some point. It is the natural way and purpose of a human.
 
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SusanB

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What I want to know is, why do Governing Body members have the insatiable need to be married and to be with a Woman, IF there hope is soon to be in heaven. Think about it for a second. They profess to one day be in position "before the face of God". In His presence, his dwelling. Seriously, can you imagine anything more exquisite, perfect, fulfilling, divine then to actually be in the presence....literally at His feet, the Holy Father, Creator of every imaginable, tangible thing. Youd think, that each GB who claims to be riddled with holy spirit to such an extent that their calling is so undeniable by the Father, that all they'd care about is to, "get to Him". The thought gives me goosebumps and butterflies in my stomach. Yet, ones like Geoffrey Jackson need to run off and marry an islander woman much less his age. For what? To caresses and satisfy his aged bones? Makes me sick frankly. Especially when I read poor blokes like yourself (and me), frustrated at not having "The Feminine" to hold each night. The apostle Paul, in order to have been part of the Sanhedrin as Saul, had to be married to qualify. Therefore, at some point Paul experienced all that said bliss and female accompaniment. However, as Paul when he received his flash of light Damascus moment, everything obviously changed. As regards marriage, etc... he'd most likely done that. NOW, he had just seen Jesus. So upward and onward to better more divine things. Thus why he could personally recommend staying single. So if you blokes don't profess to one day literally see God, get over it and go find your companion. There's nothing selfish about it. It is what God intended and purposed. And should you choose to wait till Paradise, well He through Jesus will mandate that eventually every human be married at some point. It is the natural way and purpose of a human.
There was a brother in our congregation who had been an Elder in a previous congregation but was deleted as an Elder. Here is why he was deleted as an Elder. When his wife died and when he was fairly elderly but still working as a teacher (music teacher) he did something akin to a mail order bride from the Philippines. She was a sister but she was probably barely 21 years old and he looked to be in his 70’s. He also wore a toupee. The young sister was gorgeous with a gorgeous figure like Jayne Mansfield (the actress from the 50’s and 60’s) and beautiful long dark hair. So, this brother was deleted as an Elder for marrying a young bombshell wife, who he did not have any relationship with prior to marriage. He brought her to the islands from the Philippines and then helped her family emigrate to Hawaii as well. First her mother, then her father and brothers. They all lived in the same home and they all worked and contributed financially to the household.

After a few years, they suddenly disappeared from the congregation. It ended up that the elderly brother moved in with his son in Florida and it appears that his young wife left him. I have no idea what happened other than the result was that they split.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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There was a brother in our congregation who had been an Elder in a previous congregation but was deleted as an Elder. Here is why he was deleted as an Elder. When his wife died and when he was fairly elderly but still working as a teacher (music teacher) he did something akin to a mail order bride from the Philippines. She was a sister but she was probably barely 21 years old and he looked to be in his 70’s. He also wore a toupee. The young sister was gorgeous with a gorgeous figure like Jayne Mansfield (the actress from the 50’s and 60’s) and beautiful long dark hair. So, this brother was deleted as an Elder for marrying a young bombshell wife, who he did not have any relationship with prior to marriage. He brought her to the islands from the Philippines and then helped her family emigrate to Hawaii as well. First her mother, then her father and brothers. They all lived in the same home and they all worked and contributed financially to the household.

After a few years, they suddenly disappeared from the congregation. It ended up that the elderly brother moved in with his son in Florida and it appears that his young wife left him. I have no idea what happened other than the result was that they split.
Two cruel life lessons from Mr Cynical suggest an answer: 1/ It was a ploy of the family to get out of the Philippines and into the west. They would certainly not be the first. 2/ It became somewhat obvious between them that a girl in her early 20s has many other needs and hopes than cooking and cleaning while hubby snores on the settee. Mail-order brides didn’t get the name without good reason. There is quite a market of ploys that pander to the old, lonely and bereft. They don’t mind paying for it, because the goal is not money, but the western way of life. It must be pure hell in some countries if living a lie and living in the west is seen as better. I feel somewhat sorry for both parties. Perhaps if his congregation and other elders had been more insightful and considerate of this elders emotional needs in loss, he would not have become so desperate. But that is the problem with watchtower in general, is it not, in that “love” is more an Impotent titular negative, bandied about as a sound-bite of ‘mature’ thinking that is in reality, no more than a passing handshake in its content. An empty vessel of showmanship and in ‘taking the lead’. Thus their action in punishing further in their ignorance, a brother that they were too shallow to fathom and then, in a staggering act of ignorance in love, hurt him again, only more deeply, for their own lack of insight and balance. Such manifest failure of humanity forms behind itself, a huge wake in the hearts of men and women as the watchtower juggernaut of shame sails on to its destiny.
 
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