Shunning those not Disfellowshipped

At first I was reluctant about posting this, but so many of you have shared the best and worst of your experiences so I feel I can rant or tearfully post about what I’ve experienced this last week.

As I’ve said before, my daughter and her husband have been shunning me because I questioned the WT about their handling of the vaccines. They had already backed away from speaking to me because of communicating with my younger son who’s DF.
I was told by my son in law that they would only do so if it was an emergency. But I’m not even DF either.

Well, that proved to be a lie because of what’s happened to me this past week. For years I’ve had problems with my neck shoulders and sciatica but not to such an extreme as now. A sister took me to my chiropractor because I couldn’t even drive. My chiropractor would only do a minor adjustment with my neck because I was so extremely sensitive there. Then he worked on my sciatic which gave me a little relief. On a scale of 1-10 my pain was a 10. He said I had torticollis, That is spasms in every muscle in my neck. The pain is so intense I would be crying like a baby!

I’m in so much pain trying to do just about anything…even trying to eat! So I thought I’d call my daughter to let her know that I needed her to help me out with getting some things done around the house and help me get around. I got no response and when checking my phone, I noticed a message saying that she had her notifications silenced. Even after I specifically let her know what I’ve been going through. Well, so much for helping out in an emergency.

You see I’m not usually one who wants to depend on others, even family, unless I’m in real need. When my husband was alive we could usually depend on each other for help in situations such as this. Now, I feel so helpless because of the painful effort it takes just to walk across the room.

Last night I thought I’d call my SIL’s grandmother, she‘s the one who raised him and his siblings. She’s also a forth generation JW.
I kind of figured I could talk to her because she has a more balanced and realistic view on matters like this. Btw she never got the vaccine and she’s 83 years old. She also hasn’t been sick throughout this so called pandemic and knows that the masks don’t work. But my SIL, her grandson keeps on trying to force her to take it! Unbelievable, these people!

Anyway, I proceeded to let her know what’s been going on, even about the GB and me speaking to my DF son. Btw, I really believe I can trust her not to go report this to the elders. But at this point I really don’t care.
She said that despite all of that I was still her mother and a widow now and didn’t deserve to be neglected like this. When I talked to her a little later she let me know that she sent this message, letting her grandson know this and it was their responsibility to be looking out after me.

Some of the friends have called and brought me something over to eat and for that I am thankful. A couple of them will call in to check on me too.
But every time I move, especially getting up to walk the pain is so excruciating….all I can do is cry out to Jehovah!

I also can’t help but think about the daughter I had, I feel I no longer know her anymore. She was one of the most thoughtful and considerate people you could meet. Friends use to always tell me how they appreciated her because of that. I hate to say it but I really never thought she’d be so insensitive like this. I pray to Jehovah that she will wake up from this illusion soon.

Meanwhile, I think if nothing else, all of this I’m going through will make me stronger. But if my daughter were to call or come to see me now I would welcome her with open arms! I still love her with all my heart and always will.

I would never treat anyone who was going through this with such coldness. That also goes for anyone having to experience the effects of shunning for whatever reasons they might be. And the WT says this is showing LOVE!
No, they don’t show the genuine Godly love Jesus taught and because of that many suffer one way or another.
Maybe this word of Jehovah will help you a little, as it did me:
saiah 49:15, 16a Can a woman forget her nursing child or have no compassion for her son of her womb?
Even if these women forget, I would never forget you. Look! On my palms I have engraved you.
Lots of love and strenght.
 
At first I was reluctant about posting this, but so many of you have shared the best and worst of your experiences so I feel I can rant or tearfully post about what I’ve experienced this last week.

As I’ve said before, my daughter and her husband have been shunning me because I questioned the WT about their handling of the vaccines. They had already backed away from speaking to me because of communicating with my younger son who’s DF.
I was told by my son in law that they would only do so if it was an emergency. But I’m not even DF either.

Well, that proved to be a lie because of what’s happened to me this past week. For years I’ve had problems with my neck shoulders and sciatica but not to such an extreme as now. A sister took me to my chiropractor because I couldn’t even drive. My chiropractor would only do a minor adjustment with my neck because I was so extremely sensitive there. Then he worked on my sciatic which gave me a little relief. On a scale of 1-10 my pain was a 10. He said I had torticollis, That is spasms in every muscle in my neck. The pain is so intense I would be crying like a baby!

I’m in so much pain trying to do just about anything…even trying to eat! So I thought I’d call my daughter to let her know that I needed her to help me out with getting some things done around the house and help me get around. I got no response and when checking my phone, I noticed a message saying that she had her notifications silenced. Even after I specifically let her know what I’ve been going through. Well, so much for helping out in an emergency.

You see I’m not usually one who wants to depend on others, even family, unless I’m in real need. When my husband was alive we could usually depend on each other for help in situations such as this. Now, I feel so helpless because of the painful effort it takes just to walk across the room.

Last night I thought I’d call my SIL’s grandmother, she‘s the one who raised him and his siblings. She’s also a forth generation JW.
I kind of figured I could talk to her because she has a more balanced and realistic view on matters like this. Btw she never got the vaccine and she’s 83 years old. She also hasn’t been sick throughout this so called pandemic and knows that the masks don’t work. But my SIL, her grandson keeps on trying to force her to take it! Unbelievable, these people!

Anyway, I proceeded to let her know what’s been going on, even about the GB and me speaking to my DF son. Btw, I really believe I can trust her not to go report this to the elders. But at this point I really don’t care.
She said that despite all of that I was still her mother and a widow now and didn’t deserve to be neglected like this. When I talked to her a little later she let me know that she sent this message, letting her grandson know this and it was their responsibility to be looking out after me.

Some of the friends have called and brought me something over to eat and for that I am thankful. A couple of them will call in to check on me too.
But every time I move, especially getting up to walk the pain is so excruciating….all I can do is cry out to Jehovah!

I also can’t help but think about the daughter I had, I feel I no longer know her anymore. She was one of the most thoughtful and considerate people you could meet. Friends use to always tell me how they appreciated her because of that. I hate to say it but I really never thought she’d be so insensitive like this. I pray to Jehovah that she will wake up from this illusion soon.

Meanwhile, I think if nothing else, all of this I’m going through will make me stronger. But if my daughter were to call or come to see me now I would welcome her with open arms! I still love her with all my heart and always will.

I would never treat anyone who was going through this with such coldness. That also goes for anyone having to experience the effects of shunning for whatever reasons they might be. And the WT says this is showing LOVE!
No, they don’t show the genuine Godly love Jesus taught and because of that many suffer one way or another.
It might be worthwhile, Ladyblue, to view the situation from their point of view. That is the only way (I should think) of reaching a tangible reasoning on the matter. It cannot be reasoned through logical processes because the reasoning behind their thinking is gaslighting in its purest form. As we all know about the issue of shunning, the watchtower Stand is that shunning is actually helpful to the one being shunned. Those that do the shunning, feel they are being loving and kind. It is the fact that they include not speaking and having nothing to do with the alleged sinner, that the problem stems. And it is designed to be just that to defend watchtower against questioning. It is true that there is no end to the depth of damage that people can inflict on others when they think they are doing good.

Sadly, for the witnesses, the problem is made worse by the ”emotional strokes” that others give them for their ‘terrible trials from satan’ that they have to endure in that he has tempted their relative away from them. Thus they heap coals in the head of the errant one, and shower a sense of purpose and endurance on the one doing the shunning. Sometimes, the most effective response to an impasse of such solidity, is to ignore it for the simple reason that every response made to explain things to the shunning witness by their victim simply convinces them all the more to reject them.

There is no one thing we can do to break down this barrier of discrimination, as it is not based on truth, but a lie. That much is plain to see because there is no answer to it. If they are defeated in one lie, then they reply with another, and the more ignorant in the truth they are, the more perversely do they cling to the teaching of men. I think it is reasonable to suggest that though the majority of witnesses are aware of the attributes of Jehovah, only a minority begin to understand their depth and gravity, their nuances, justness, love wisdom and critically, empathetic reach. Without that knowledge, scant though it is for all of us, their only recourse is to repeat watchtower doctrine. But doctrine has no basis in truth and hence is no better than the guile of the one explaining it.

When Jesus was near to death, hanging from the tree, he pleaded with Jehovah to forgive his tormentors because “They do not know what they do.“ This suggests then, a similar response from us is by far the better choice when faced with an intractable force. It does not suggest failure, but strength, resilience, acceptance and scriptural understanding. Accepting the facts as they stand, enables us to move on, just as much as it enabled Christ to let go and humble himself even unto death on a stake. He knew the value of truth, accepted that the outcome was inevitable if his survival was to have meaning, and acknowledged the supremacy of Jehovah to settle the matter. Essentially, and in our own small way, the same is expected of us. Life is seldom what we hope for, but faith is what will see us through.
 
It might be worthwhile, Ladyblue, to view the situation from their point of view. That is the only way (I should think) of reaching a tangible reasoning on the matter. It cannot be reasoned through logical processes because the reasoning behind their thinking is gaslighting in its purest form. As we all know about the issue of shunning, the watchtower Stand is that shunning is actually helpful to the one being shunned. Those that do the shunning, feel they are being loving and kind. It is the fact that they include not speaking and having nothing to do with the alleged sinner, that the problem stems. And it is designed to be just that to defend watchtower against questioning. It is true that there is no end to the depth of damage that people can inflict on others when they think they are doing good.

Sadly, for the witnesses, the problem is made worse by the ”emotional strokes” that others give them for their ‘terrible trials from satan’ that they have to endure in that he has tempted their relative away from them. Thus they heap coals in the head of the errant one, and shower a sense of purpose and endurance on the one doing the shunning. Sometimes, the most effective response to an impasse of such solidity, is to ignore it for the simple reason that every response made to explain things to the shunning witness by their victim simply convinces them all the more to reject them.

There is no one thing we can do to break down this barrier of discrimination, as it is not based on truth, but a lie. That much is plain to see because there is no answer to it. If they are defeated in one lie, then they reply with another, and the more ignorant in the truth they are, the more perversely do they cling to the teaching of men. I think it is reasonable to suggest that though the majority of witnesses are aware of the attributes of Jehovah, only a minority begin to understand their depth and gravity, their nuances, justness, love wisdom and critically, empathetic reach. Without that knowledge, scant though it is for all of us, their only recourse is to repeat watchtower doctrine. But doctrine has no basis in truth and hence is no better than the guile of the one explaining it.

When Jesus was near to death, hanging from the tree, he pleaded with Jehovah to forgive his tormentors because “They do not know what they do.“ This suggests then, a similar response from us is by far the better choice when faced with an intractable force. It does not suggest failure, but strength, resilience, acceptance and scriptural understanding. Accepting the facts as they stand, enables us to move on, just as much as it enabled Christ to let go and humble himself even unto death on a stake. He knew the value of truth, accepted that the outcome was inevitable if his survival was to have meaning, and acknowledged the supremacy of Jehovah to settle the matter. Essentially, and in our own small way, the same is expected of us. Life is seldom what we hope for, but faith is what will see us through.
Thank you for these words....I think I could read this 10 times!!
 
It might be worthwhile, Ladyblue, to view the situation from their point of view. That is the only way (I should think) of reaching a tangible reasoning on the matter. It cannot be reasoned through logical processes because the reasoning behind their thinking is gaslighting in its purest form. As we all know about the issue of shunning, the watchtower Stand is that shunning is actually helpful to the one being shunned. Those that do the shunning, feel they are being loving and kind. It is the fact that they include not speaking and having nothing to do with the alleged sinner, that the problem stems. And it is designed to be just that to defend watchtower against questioning. It is true that there is no end to the depth of damage that people can inflict on others when they think they are doing good.

Sadly, for the witnesses, the problem is made worse by the ”emotional strokes” that others give them for their ‘terrible trials from satan’ that they have to endure in that he has tempted their relative away from them. Thus they heap coals in the head of the errant one, and shower a sense of purpose and endurance on the one doing the shunning. Sometimes, the most effective response to an impasse of such solidity, is to ignore it for the simple reason that every response made to explain things to the shunning witness by their victim simply convinces them all the more to reject them.

There is no one thing we can do to break down this barrier of discrimination, as it is not based on truth, but a lie. That much is plain to see because there is no answer to it. If they are defeated in one lie, then they reply with another, and the more ignorant in the truth they are, the more perversely do they cling to the teaching of men. I think it is reasonable to suggest that though the majority of witnesses are aware of the attributes of Jehovah, only a minority begin to understand their depth and gravity, their nuances, justness, love wisdom and critically, empathetic reach. Without that knowledge, scant though it is for all of us, their only recourse is to repeat watchtower doctrine. But doctrine has no basis in truth and hence is no better than the guile of the one explaining it.

When Jesus was near to death, hanging from the tree, he pleaded with Jehovah to forgive his tormentors because “They do not know what they do.“ This suggests then, a similar response from us is by far the better choice when faced with an intractable force. It does not suggest failure, but strength, resilience, acceptance and scriptural understanding. Accepting the facts as they stand, enables us to move on, just as much as it enabled Christ to let go and humble himself even unto death on a stake. He knew the value of truth, accepted that the outcome was inevitable if his survival was to have meaning, and acknowledged the supremacy of Jehovah to settle the matter. Essentially, and in our own small way, the same is expected of us. Life is seldom what we hope for, but faith is what will see us through.
Thought you were a gonna old friend...Good to hear you.
 
It might be worthwhile, Ladyblue, to view the situation from their point of view. That is the only way (I should think) of reaching a tangible reasoning on the matter. It cannot be reasoned through logical processes because the reasoning behind their thinking is gaslighting in its purest form. As we all know about the issue of shunning, the watchtower Stand is that shunning is actually helpful to the one being shunned. Those that do the shunning, feel they are being loving and kind. It is the fact that they include not speaking and having nothing to do with the alleged sinner, that the problem stems. And it is designed to be just that to defend watchtower against questioning. It is true that there is no end to the depth of damage that people can inflict on others when they think they are doing good.

Sadly, for the witnesses, the problem is made worse by the ”emotional strokes” that others give them for their ‘terrible trials from satan’ that they have to endure in that he has tempted their relative away from them. Thus they heap coals in the head of the errant one, and shower a sense of purpose and endurance on the one doing the shunning. Sometimes, the most effective response to an impasse of such solidity, is to ignore it for the simple reason that every response made to explain things to the shunning witness by their victim simply convinces them all the more to reject them.

There is no one thing we can do to break down this barrier of discrimination, as it is not based on truth, but a lie. That much is plain to see because there is no answer to it. If they are defeated in one lie, then they reply with another, and the more ignorant in the truth they are, the more perversely do they cling to the teaching of men. I think it is reasonable to suggest that though the majority of witnesses are aware of the attributes of Jehovah, only a minority begin to understand their depth and gravity, their nuances, justness, love wisdom and critically, empathetic reach. Without that knowledge, scant though it is for all of us, their only recourse is to repeat watchtower doctrine. But doctrine has no basis in truth and hence is no better than the guile of the one explaining it.

When Jesus was near to death, hanging from the tree, he pleaded with Jehovah to forgive his tormentors because “They do not know what they do.“ This suggests then, a similar response from us is by far the better choice when faced with an intractable force. It does not suggest failure, but strength, resilience, acceptance and scriptural understanding. Accepting the facts as they stand, enables us to move on, just as much as it enabled Christ to let go and humble himself even unto death on a stake. He knew the value of truth, accepted that the outcome was inevitable if his survival was to have meaning, and acknowledged the supremacy of Jehovah to settle the matter. Essentially, and in our own small way, the same is expected of us. Life is seldom what we hope for, but faith is what will see us through.
BTD I can only respond to your heartfelt comment to say, thank you, and that you’re absolutely right.
How they view themselves in WT way of thinking is how helpful they imagine it is for me. But of course the reality is the opposite, in that the genuine love that Jesus taught has for them evolved into some sinister form of love, that surely isn’t from Jehovah.

It reminds me of what the apostle Paul said to Jewish Christians at Romans 10 verse 2, 3 — “For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge. Because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.”
And remembering how Paul was zealous for the Law in his persecution of the Christians back then shows me that this was a preview of things to come in our day.

They say also, that this form of shunning shows love and would cause one to ‘miss’ the love we once had in the family or Christian congregation. No, this isn’t the love Jesus taught and I want to follow.
So, for my own well being I know I need to ignore them as well and haven’t responded to them since. I realize that it will do no good to do so either. I don’t have any hatred for them, it’s only what they’re doing that I have hatred for just as I hate how many of my brothers and sisters are being mistreated by WT. But we know that vengeance belongs only to Jehovah, and so I leave it in his hands.

I believe Jehovah allows us to go through these trials so as to be refined and strengthened. Having to go through all these changes in my life this past year, has brought on so many emotions that I never thought I could bare. I can and do talk to Jehovah more than ever now. Knowing Jehovah’s love for us is “regarding whatever our hearts may condemn us in, because God is greater than our hearts and knows all things.” This only shows how much WT doctrine is out of touch with humanity.

It’s tue, that faith is what will see us through all of this. But I know one thing, because WT has no love left to give, it will be their downfall...because it is written, “Now, however, these three remain: faith, hope, love; but THE GREATEST OF THESE IS LOVE.”
 
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BTD I can only respond to your heartfelt comment to say, thank you, and that you’re absolutely right.
How they view themselves in WT way of thinking is how helpful they imagine it is for me. But of course the reality is the opposite, in that the genuine love that Jesus taught has for them evolved into some sinister form of love, that surely isn’t from Jehovah.

It reminds me of what the apostle Paul said to Jewish Christians at Romans 10 verse 2, 3 — “For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge. Because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.”
And remembering how Paul was zealous for the Law in his persecution of the Christians back then shows me that this was a preview of things to come in our day.

They say also, that this form of shunning shows love and would cause one to ‘miss’ the love we once had in the family or Christian congregation. No, this isn’t the love Jesus taught and I want to follow.
So, for my own well being I know I need to ignore them as well and haven’t responded to them since. I realize that it will do no good to do so either. I don’t have any hatred for them, it’s only what they’re doing that I have hatred for just as I hate how many of my brothers and sisters are being mistreated by WT. But we know that vengeance belongs only to Jehovah, and so I leave it in his hands.

I believe Jehovah allows us to go through these trials so as to be refined and strengthened. Having to go through all these changes in my life the past last year has brought on so many emotions that I never thought I could bare. I can and do talk to Jehovah more than ever now. Knowing Jehovah’s love for us is “regarding whatever our hearts may condemn us in, because God is greater than our hearts and knows all things.” This only shows how much WT doctrine is out of touch with humanity.

It’s tue, that faith is what will see us through all of this. But I know one thing, because WT has no love left to give, it will be their downfall...because it is written, “Now, however, these three remain: faith, hope, love; but THE GREATEST OF THESE IS LOVE.”
Those are sound scriptures you use in this topic and certainly makes the case. I sometimes think that watchtower could have realised their goal if they only took their own advice to “Leave it with Jehovah”. If we seek Him first, then He meets us half way so to speak - and always with a large hand.
 
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There is something very wrong on a fundamental level with the systemic treatment of people who don't meat the "approved" status of the other "good" JW's.

My mother brought a woman in to the truth many years ago. She was living with a guy I think, and they did end up getting married, but later split up. He never came into the truth. Any way, she had two kids. A boy and girl. The boy was I think somewhere between 12-15 years younger vthan me...but I ended up becoming very close to him, and we all felt like they were an extended part of our family. My father did a lot to look out for them, and she worked for him for a while.

Any way, he and his sister ended up getting DF'd some time later. Some years after that, the boy, now a young man, had had a "breakdown", over a girl, and ended up in one of those facilities where they put you if you threaten suicide.

His mother had no idea any of this had gone on, and his sister had tried to reach out to her to tell her what was going on. Mind you, he'd just attempted suicide. I don't remember all the details this has been years ago now, but what i do know for sure is his Mom was staying with an Elder and his wife, (maybe she was out of town on a quick build, or something like that.) Her daughter called this "brothers" house, and he refused to let her talk to her Mom, because he knew she was DF'd. She ended up calling me, and I called this prick, and got on the phone with his Mom to tell her what was going on! Just outrageous! In excusable!

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, that you also love one another.By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.” John 13: 34,35

Zero, absolutely ZERO, self awareness!
In the parable of the prodigal son, the brother who was spiteful and angry at the return of his brother, despite the fathers warm reception , aptly portrays the WTs treatment of those brothers and sisters who’ve fallen by the wayside.
 
In the parable of the prodigal son, the brother who was spiteful and angry at the return of his brother, despite the fathers warm reception , aptly portrays the WTs treatment of those brothers and sisters who’ve fallen by the wayside.
If you look at this issue in isolation, this is how it sounds to any reasonable person.
Patient to psychiatrist: “I do not speak to my son because i love him very much.”
Psychiatrist: “How will this help mend your relationship with your son”.
Patient: “It will show him that I am right and he is wrong and that I have thrown him out of my house, and refuse to reason with him and won’t even answer the phone if he or his family need help because I love him so much and want him to come home.”
Psychiatrist glances at patients head, but there is no tinfoil hat there. “So you threw him out of your home because you want him to come home? Is he of the same religion as you?”
“Yes”.
”Well surely you can speak to him when he attends?”
”No. I have to ignore him and turn my back on him because I love him.”
Psychiatrist furtively looks at a bottle of whisky under his desk and thinks perhaps that this was the wrong week to give up drinking. “So no matter what, you are not speaking to your son and will not extend him any help whatsoever?”
”Correct. You would do the same I’m sure. It’s for their own good.”
”Who told you that?”
”I was advised by a chap who lives in New York State in a grand marble lined mansion for free. He said it was the loving thing to do. He said that God channels advice through him and his other mates but not directly of course, as that would be presumptuous to assume that, but nonetheless, I should believe what he says otherwise I will end up like my son and no one will speak with me - but if that were to be the case and I was thrown out for speaking with and associating with my son, I could have him home and speak with him as much as I want, but my wife and my other children will throw me and my son out of the house and not speak with me.
”Do you know this guy?”
”Nope. Never met him but he would not lie to me. He said so in an article in one of his magazines he prints so it must be true. Is there something wrong with me doctor?”
”Yes, you seem to have a severe case of Gaslightus.”
”Any cure doctor?”
”Yes, indeed there is. Get a group of like minded people and read and discuss the bible together…”
”But the man in the mansion said that we are not to do that and that they will do it for us, in case we get the wrong understanding…”
 
If you look at this issue in isolation, this is how it sounds to any reasonable person.
Patient to psychiatrist: “I do not speak to my son because i love him very much.”
Psychiatrist: “How will this help mend your relationship with your son”.
Patient: “It will show him that I am right and he is wrong and that I have thrown him out of my house, and refuse to reason with him and won’t even answer the phone if he or his family need help because I love him so much and want him to come home.”
Psychiatrist glances at patients head, but there is no tinfoil hat there. “So you threw him out of your home because you want him to come home? Is he of the same religion as you?”
“Yes”.
”Well surely you can speak to him when he attends?”
”No. I have to ignore him and turn my back on him because I love him.”
Psychiatrist furtively looks at a bottle of whisky under his desk and thinks perhaps that this was the wrong week to give up drinking. “So no matter what, you are not speaking to your son and will not extend him any help whatsoever?”
”Correct. You would do the same I’m sure. It’s for their own good.”
”Who told you that?”
”I was advised by a chap who lives in New York State in a grand marble lined mansion for free. He said it was the loving thing to do. He said that God channels advice through him and his other mates but not directly of course, as that would be presumptuous to assume that, but nonetheless, I should believe what he says otherwise I will end up like my son and no one will speak with me - but if that were to be the case and I was thrown out for speaking with and associating with my son, I could have him home and speak with him as much as I want, but my wife and my other children will throw me and my son out of the house and not speak with me.
”Do you know this guy?”
”Nope. Never met him but he would not lie to me. He said so in an article in one of his magazines he prints so it must be true. Is there something wrong with me doctor?”
”Yes, you seem to have a severe case of Gaslightus.”
”Any cure doctor?”
”Yes, indeed there is. Get a group of like minded people and read and discuss the bible together…”
”But the man in the mansion said that we are not to do that and that they will do it for us, in case we get the wrong understanding…”
BTD I wonder if it would be wise to send this to a witness? Like maybe one of my close relative witnesses? 😉

You know when you lay it out like that…which is exactly accurate…it will of course have the opposite affect on the one they say they love. ‘Gaslightus‘ is a serious disease and is definitely demon inspired.
 
BTD I wonder if it would be wise to send this to a witness? Like maybe one of my close relative witnesses? 😉

You know when you lay it out like that…which is exactly accurate…it will of course have the opposite affect on the one they say they love. ‘Gaslightus‘ is a serious disease and is definitely demon inspired.
I’m sure they would think of some reason to reject such flagrant sarcasm. My sister is still shunning me, though she says she is not, but she has not contacted me for years except to check up if I’m still alive. Clearly then, an email once every 20 years or so is acceptable non-shunning shunning because she has not actually seen me or spoken to me, just sent a spam email. Perhaps I’ll write to head office and sneak on her for sending me an email and get her into a “back-room” counselling session with a bunch of “concerned” elders about socialising with diseased non-masked disassociated apostate family members. You never know, her husband may have to step down from his eldership for having an unruly wife speaking with apostate family. The shame of it!
 
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