Something odd on my mind.

PJ54

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I have been wondering about cryptids. There are rumors about them, photos of them (albeit most pictures are from old cameras), & possible videos of them (same issue as the camera). I have wondered what they could be & if some of them are just folk tales or perhaps some species that are on the verge of extinction when found. Plus, some of the cryptids are humanoid & could be spirits. In the end who really knows? All I know is there is much information that is hidden from the public eye.
 

The God Pill

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I have been wondering about cryptids. There are rumors about them, photos of them (albeit most pictures are from old cameras), & possible videos of them (same issue as the camera). I have wondered what they could be & if some of them are just folk tales or perhaps some species that are on the verge of extinction when found. Plus, some of the cryptids are humanoid & could be spirits. In the end who really knows? All I know is there is much information that is hidden from the public eye.
Thoughts on mokele mbembe?
 

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יהוה_saves

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omgsh @PJ54 that’s so weird. i was just thinking about this last night.

i’m really undecided about their origins- it seems they are some sort of humanoid hybrid or wild human, they have a distinct intelligible language with vocal ranges are well below the capability of humans.

One of the most compelling stories (i’ve heard) is the 1924 Ape Canyon, Washington incident where multiple cryptids attacked a gold prospecting expedition near Mt St. Helens.
 

PJ54

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omgsh @PJ54 that’s so weird. i was just thinking about this last night.

i’m really undecided about their origins- it seems they are some sort of humanoid hybrid or wild human, they have a distinct intelligible language with vocal ranges are well below the capability of humans.

One of the most compelling stories (i’ve heard) is the 1924 Ape Canyon, Washington incident where multiple cryptids attacked a gold prospecting expedition near Mt St. Helens.
Could either be a scientific experiment or possible a being made from a powerful ritual. Then again considering Bigfoot, it could be like a gorilla that lives in the North American continent. It's possible relative could be the skunk ape in Florida.
 

יהוה_saves

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Could either be a scientific experiment or possible a being made from a powerful ritual. Then again considering Bigfoot, it could be like a gorilla that lives in the North American continent. It's possible relative could be the skunk ape in Florida.
for me personally, I rule out primate.

It walks upright, it’s intelligent and has sophisticated, complex linguistics.

Someday we will know what it is and where it came from.

I do believe they exist in physical form.
 

Sundial

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for me personally, I rule out primate.

It walks upright, it’s intelligent and has sophisticated, complex linguistics.

Someday we will know what it is and where it came from.

I do believe they exist in physical form.
I got interested in them after some confirmed sightings near where I live. It is becoming a hot topic and allegedly thousands of DNA samples exist. They are a type of hybrid for sure (human maternal mitochondria DNA + male DNA unknown) and not an animal, but with that comes a whole can of worms. They can do what we cannot. Just one more paradigm shift to wrap one's head around before running out into the woods and knocking on trees. Maybe the asumption that "Men will become faint with fear..." over the things to come may include revelations outside of our current reality and understanding.
 

The God Pill

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Speaking of cryptids was reading the sayings of mencius china's second sage today and noticed this.

'A long time has elapsed since this world of men received its being, and there has been along its history now a period of good order, and now a period of confusion.

'In the time of Yâo, the waters, flowing out of their channels, inundated the Middle Kingdom. Snakes and dragons occupied it, and the people had no place where they could settle themselves. In the low grounds they made nests for themselves on the trees or raised platforms, and in the high grounds they made caves. It is said in the Book of History, "The waters in their wild course warned me." Those "waters in their wild course" were the waters of the great inundation.

'Shun employed Yü to reduce the waters to order. Yü dug open their obstructed channels, and conducted them to the sea. He drove away the snakes and dragons, and forced them into the grassy marshes. On this, the waters pursued their course through the country, even the waters of the Chiang, the Hwâi, the Ho, and the Han, and the dangers and obstructions which they had occasioned were removed. The birds and beasts which had injured the people also disappeared, and after this men found the plains available for them, and occupied them
 

PJ54

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Speaking of cryptids was reading the sayings of mencius china's second sage today and noticed this.

'A long time has elapsed since this world of men received its being, and there has been along its history now a period of good order, and now a period of confusion.

'In the time of Yâo, the waters, flowing out of their channels, inundated the Middle Kingdom. Snakes and dragons occupied it, and the people had no place where they could settle themselves. In the low grounds they made nests for themselves on the trees or raised platforms, and in the high grounds they made caves. It is said in the Book of History, "The waters in their wild course warned me." Those "waters in their wild course" were the waters of the great inundation.

'Shun employed Yü to reduce the waters to order. Yü dug open their obstructed channels, and conducted them to the sea. He drove away the snakes and dragons, and forced them into the grassy marshes. On this, the waters pursued their course through the country, even the waters of the Chiang, the Hwâi, the Ho, and the Han, and the dangers and obstructions which they had occasioned were removed. The birds and beasts which had injured the people also disappeared, and after this men found the plains available for them, and occupied them
Creatures like the Naga & the Giant Snake of Mt. Tsurugi come to mind. You have to wonder what happened in the days of Noah.
 

Jah-son

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I've had a fascination with this subject since I was young. One could often find me in the school library as a youngster in the UFO / bigfoot section.

I've always perceived that there is more to this world that we inhabit than our 5 senses can decipher. When I was a child it was easier to perceive such concepts although I was often frightened by them.

Since my awakening of late, my interest in these subjects has returned. Of course I can't say with any certainty, but here is my current understanding/guess:

As far as cryptids are concerned, from what I'm learning, I really do think that physical creatures have the ability to "evolve" or mutate to a large degree depending on environmental factors.

It's evident by the specific biodiversity of individual regions of the planet that the species dwelling there seem to specifically "fit" that particular area, as if they were meant to be there. The continent of Australia is a good example. I would go as far as to say that the humans dwelling in that region have also evolved physically to be most efficient for that specific environment. I'm speaking of the aboriginal "first nations" peoples.

Mountain goats and sheep in the rocky mountain region are similar but different to the species in Europe or Asia. But they are all sheep and goats (a kind) and well adapted to their specific region. Were they specifically created that way or was there one basic original prototype set in place and what we see today and throughout the paleolithic record are simply mutations/evolved to adapt to the ever changing environment?

Personally I have to think that they evolved to adapt. This leads me to believe that species can also appear and disappear depending on the current environmental factors. Maybe there are rare species from an older age still lingering to an extent or new species now evolving to a new age/environment.

One example is the thylacine or Tasmanian tiger. It is thought to be extinct but there have been many recent sightings of this animal. Perhaps It can is in a transition phase - On it's way out but another predatory creature will take its place to create a balance.

There are likely other survivors of a bygone age that are rarely seen. I don't think that the creator formed each individual creature as we see them today. He built in the capacity to adapt and that mechanism has great potential. There are forces beyond our limited knowledge that shape and influence the world around us.

For the record, I'm not claiming evolution between species (primate to homosapien) but rather a broad ability to adapt within a species "kind".

There is a theory that is very plausible which postulates the idea of a vapor canopy enveloping the earth before the time of the flood. The Bible account alludes to this possibility. This condition created and entirely different environment to the one we are used to. The canopy blocked the suns UV and other radiation to a large extent. This enabled a great transformation of Earthly species, giving rise to giants and Titans both in the animal and human kinds (human men of fame) with vastly superior abilities. This enabled them to dominate. The Greek and Roman mythology of the titans was likely speaking of such ones. Perhaps this is also what gave rise to the stories of the Biblical Nephilim. These stories have counterparts in many ancient cultures.

I realize that this thought is not congruent with those who take a literal view of the Bible but I'm beginning to open up to other possibilities. This would explain the ages of the dinosaurs, etc.

So much of ancient history has been hidden.

The rabbit hole goes much deeper but it's probably too much for this forum so I'll leave it there for now.
 

Jess

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Great questions. I too have been curious about this topic. Ancient Aliens and the Nephilim etc. Throw in my strange blood type that cannot be explained and yes the rabbit hole is a deep one. When I was in 7th grade, I was taking the courses for "Confirmation" and we were learning some lessons from the Bible. Finally, the Pastor opened it up and asked us kids if we had any questions. I said "Yes! Lots of them!". I had seen him give plenty of sermons as a kid but this was my first chance to get to ask questions. I said "First, I want to know where the Dinosaurs fit into the Bible" and then I said "I also want to know how you decided to become a pastor. Did God talk to you or something?". (I have been able to somewhat satisfy the answers to these questions since then as an adult).

Well, these questions were not received well and my parents were notified that I was being disrepectful :rolleyes: Maybe the other kids did find my questions funny and laughed but I really just wanted to know! Some things never change I suppose.
 
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DR74minus

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I've had a fascination with this subject since I was young. One could often find me in the school library as a youngster in the UFO / bigfoot section.

I've always perceived that there is more to this world that we inhabit than our 5 senses can decipher. When I was a child it was easier to perceive such concepts although I was often frightened by them.

Since my awakening of late, my interest in these subjects has returned. Of course I can't say with any certainty, but here is my current understanding/guess:

As far as cryptids are concerned, from what I'm learning, I really do think that physical creatures have the ability to "evolve" or mutate to a large degree depending on environmental factors.

It's evident by the specific biodiversity of individual regions of the planet that the species dwelling there seem to specifically "fit" that particular area, as if they were meant to be there. The continent of Australia is a good example. I would go as far as to say that the humans dwelling in that region have also evolved physically to be most efficient for that specific environment. I'm speaking of the aboriginal "first nations" peoples.

Mountain goats and sheep in the rocky mountain region are similar but different to the species in Europe or Asia. But they are all sheep and goats (a kind) and well adapted to their specific region. Were they specifically created that way or was there one basic original prototype set in place and what we see today and throughout the paleolithic record are simply mutations/evolved to adapt to the ever changing environment?

Personally I have to think that they evolved to adapt. This leads me to believe that species can also appear and disappear depending on the current environmental factors. Maybe there are rare species from an older age still lingering to an extent or new species now evolving to a new age/environment.

One example is the thylacine or Tasmanian tiger. It is thought to be extinct but there have been many recent sightings of this animal. Perhaps It can is in a transition phase - On it's way out but another predatory creature will take its place to create a balance.

There are likely other survivors of a bygone age that are rarely seen. I don't think that the creator formed each individual creature as we see them today. He built in the capacity to adapt and that mechanism has great potential. There are forces beyond our limited knowledge that shape and influence the world around us.

For the record, I'm not claiming evolution between species (primate to homosapien) but rather a broad ability to adapt within a species "kind".

There is a theory that is very plausible which postulates the idea of a vapor canopy enveloping the earth before the time of the flood. The Bible account alludes to this possibility. This condition created and entirely different environment to the one we are used to. The canopy blocked the suns UV and other radiation to a large extent. This enabled a great transformation of Earthly species, giving rise to giants and Titans both in the animal and human kinds (human men of fame) with vastly superior abilities. This enabled them to dominate. The Greek and Roman mythology of the titans was likely speaking of such ones. Perhaps this is also what gave rise to the stories of the Biblical Nephilim. These stories have counterparts in many ancient cultures.

I realize that this thought is not congruent with those who take a literal view of the Bible but I'm beginning to open up to other possibilities. This would explain the ages of the dinosaurs, etc.

So much of ancient history has been hidden.

The rabbit hole goes much deeper but it's probably too much for this forum so I'll leave it there for now.

Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks or something like that? In this case the fingers are doing the talking. If I'm not mistaken brother King said ( whatever is on your mind ) no quotes because I don't know the exact words. When I was 8 yrs old a minister told the class among other things that we don't die, just this part dies and our soul continues
( somewhere? ) I didn't catch that part. I've always though that I like it here on the earth. The thought of floating around somewhere, wherever, put it this way, it didn't sit right with me somehow. Anyway its history, and the minister was full of it.

How bad can it be to share your rabbit hole dive with the forum? Go for it. Or not.
 

Jahrule

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I saw something once on Jekyll Island. It had to be the 90s, but I can't place the exact time. I was probably 13 or 14. I remember it very vividly. There was a restaurant right off the beach called Crackers. It's actually still there. Today it's called The Driftwood Bistro. It's not the same. Great food still, though. Back when I was growing up, two nights a week Crackers would show an old movie. The adults just had to drink.

My mom and other family would congregate there, especially when my uncle was in town. He was the one who found this place. It was cool because if the adults got beer they let you eat free hotwings all night from the buffet. Had lots of great memories there. Free wings, a movie, and there were trails everywhere. Sometimes my best friend would come. Best years of my life. You're on an island surrounded by water. It calls to you. I frequently broke away from everyone to walk. I felt safe there. Nothing weird ever happened. Except this one time. ...

I was walking behind Crackers down by the beach access where the condos end and the beach begins. I was just walking the boundaries there in between when I suddenly realized there was a huge living creature directly in my path. It towered over me. It was huge yet long and skinny. Taller than any animal I had ever seen. It walked on two legs. I was like, "What the hell?" I didn't believe it was alive until it tried to scoop me up. I ran all the way back to Crackers., feeling it behind me the whole time. I could hear its feet stomping behind me. Somehow though, it just disappeared by the time I reached other people. I tried to tell everyone what I saw, but I doubt anyone believed me. Never saw it again either. The closest thing I can compare what I saw with today is slender-man, and this event occurred before slender-man was even a thing. It was before the internet was even popular.

Here's a modern picture of where it happened
driftwood-bistro.jpg


This an example of the beach access. I was actually behind this picture walking adjacent to it, if that makes sense.
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I say slender man because it didn't have a face. Just don't take that as an endorsement of the movie they made about him. It was dumb. But yea, I saw slender man before it was a thing or an inspiration for actual murder.

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Jah-son

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What about Skinwalker ranch? Anyone follow the ongoing docuseries? My wife hates when I watch that one but I was following it back in the late 90s when Art Bell was talking about it.
I think it's likely some kind of interdimensional portal. (I realize that idea doesn't fit the literal view of the Bible) There are surely anomalous areas on this planet though.

The Oregon vortex is one of these spots that even native Americans knew about and would avoid. I've been there and witnessed the high strangeness there. I read a book authored by a prospector that worked there for years and documented the history and strange features of the vortex. The boundaries can actually be measured with a magnet or other instruments. There is a noticeable change when anything enters the vortex physically shrinking in size. Even instruments (i.e. measuring tape) shrink when entering. But one can actually visually see the size difference.

Anyways, back to Skinwalker ranch, I believe these spots are areas of heightened energetic instability or potential of some kind. The things that go on there are really bizarre. The skin Walker is supposedly a "Cryptid" (trickster) from the native Navajo and Ute Indians legend inhabiting the area. It's only a few hours from where I grew up actually.

There have been all kinds of strange sightings and experiences there going way back. Last season, they discovered an ancient native ceremonial area in the shape of a vortex. They have been digging in an area called the triangle. Whenever they start digging it triggers some event. And the instruments they are using to measure and record go offline. Real crazy stuff.

Of course its easy to explain everything by throwing it in a box with the demon activity label but I don't think its that simple.
 

PJ54

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What about Skinwalker ranch? Anyone follow the ongoing docuseries? My wife hates when I watch that one but I was following it back in the late 90s when Art Bell was talking about it.
I think it's likely some kind of interdimensional portal. (I realize that idea doesn't fit the literal view of the Bible) There are surely anomalous areas on this planet though.

The Oregon vortex is one of these spots that even native Americans knew about and would avoid. I've been there and witnessed the high strangeness there. I read a book authored by a prospector that worked there for years and documented the history and strange features of the vortex. The boundaries can actually be measured with a magnet or other instruments. There is a noticeable change when anything enters the vortex physically shrinking in size. Even instruments (i.e. measuring tape) shrink when entering. But one can actually visually see the size difference.

Anyways, back to Skinwalker ranch, I believe these spots are areas of heightened energetic instability or potential of some kind. The things that go on there are really bizarre. The skin Walker is supposedly a "Cryptid" (trickster) from the native Navajo and Ute Indians legend inhabiting the area. It's only a few hours from where I grew up actually.

There have been all kinds of strange sightings and experiences there going way back. Last season, they discovered an ancient native ceremonial area in the shape of a vortex. They have been digging in an area called the triangle. Whenever they start digging it triggers some event. And the instruments they are using to measure and record go offline. Real crazy stuff.

Of course its easy to explain everything by throwing it in a box with the demon activity label but I don't think its that simple.
From what I have heard, Skin-walkers & by extension shapeshifters are people who dabble into some extremely dark occult practices. Often to obtain such power requires some horrific action to prove that you're ready to embrace such abilities. One story I heard on Twitter from the Orthodox side was there was some encounters in the Carolinas near a reservation. Apparently some of the individuals of the Orthodox church in the area had tried to capture the being, though it escaped. Who really knows though? Plus a lot of those areas are near military bases (D.U.M.B.S in particular).
 

RTAW

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I've had a fascination with this subject since I was young. One could often find me in the school library as a youngster in the UFO / bigfoot section.

I've always perceived that there is more to this world that we inhabit than our 5 senses can decipher. When I was a child it was easier to perceive such concepts although I was often frightened by them.

Since my awakening of late, my interest in these subjects has returned. Of course I can't say with any certainty, but here is my current understanding/guess:

As far as cryptids are concerned, from what I'm learning, I really do think that physical creatures have the ability to "evolve" or mutate to a large degree depending on environmental factors.

It's evident by the specific biodiversity of individual regions of the planet that the species dwelling there seem to specifically "fit" that particular area, as if they were meant to be there. The continent of Australia is a good example. I would go as far as to say that the humans dwelling in that region have also evolved physically to be most efficient for that specific environment. I'm speaking of the aboriginal "first nations" peoples.

Mountain goats and sheep in the rocky mountain region are similar but different to the species in Europe or Asia. But they are all sheep and goats (a kind) and well adapted to their specific region. Were they specifically created that way or was there one basic original prototype set in place and what we see today and throughout the paleolithic record are simply mutations/evolved to adapt to the ever changing environment?

Personally I have to think that they evolved to adapt. This leads me to believe that species can also appear and disappear depending on the current environmental factors. Maybe there are rare species from an older age still lingering to an extent or new species now evolving to a new age/environment.

One example is the thylacine or Tasmanian tiger. It is thought to be extinct but there have been many recent sightings of this animal. Perhaps It can is in a transition phase - On it's way out but another predatory creature will take its place to create a balance.

There are likely other survivors of a bygone age that are rarely seen. I don't think that the creator formed each individual creature as we see them today. He built in the capacity to adapt and that mechanism has great potential. There are forces beyond our limited knowledge that shape and influence the world around us.

For the record, I'm not claiming evolution between species (primate to homosapien) but rather a broad ability to adapt within a species "kind".

There is a theory that is very plausible which postulates the idea of a vapor canopy enveloping the earth before the time of the flood. The Bible account alludes to this possibility. This condition created and entirely different environment to the one we are used to. The canopy blocked the suns UV and other radiation to a large extent. This enabled a great transformation of Earthly species, giving rise to giants and Titans both in the animal and human kinds (human men of fame) with vastly superior abilities. This enabled them to dominate. The Greek and Roman mythology of the titans was likely speaking of such ones. Perhaps this is also what gave rise to the stories of the Biblical Nephilim. These stories have counterparts in many ancient cultures.

I realize that this thought is not congruent with those who take a literal view of the Bible but I'm beginning to open up to other possibilities. This would explain the ages of the dinosaurs, etc.

So much of ancient history has been hidden.

The rabbit hole goes much deeper but it's probably too much for this forum so I'll leave it there for now.
If I recall correctly it might have been the restored church of God that had a video about.... Well Satan tinkering with the earth BEFORE Adam.

The whole theory begins with the word void, apparently void , the translation did not mean empty, but rather CHAOS. And corrupted, corrupted by what?

If you did any information on what I just mentioned, please post it in a link down below, I cannot find it anymore. I wish I bookmarked it to humor myself at a later time lol
 
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