robins
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Actually crossing the US border unvaccinated is only an issue for non-US residents/citizens
Stepping down as an elder
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barry
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Well I'm in BC, Canada. So most of the friends at the hall who cross the border will need to be vaccinated
robins
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Ah! missed the canada origins. Probably one of the most surprising things is how Canada / NZ/ and Australia handled this. I am shocked citizens aren't more outraged
barry
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true
Seadog
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I read RK's book right through and wrote my resignation. Sat on it for a week tweaking it here and there, althewhile praying about the situation
then submitted it to ALL the body----- everyone knows then with no room for interpretation.
I did feel conflicted initially but feeling way better now 6 weeks on. The feeling I am no longer compromised is the best part.
Ms_ladyblue
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So, the virus is prejudice.
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If and when I do a letter it would be along the lines of, the GB vax mandate shook me and my faith to the core.
To prove that I was still in the truth I decided to start intense Bible study.
The first topic I chose was Bible chronology.
I proved to myself the 1914 teaching is a lie.
Do you think a letter of resignation as an elder like that could also be construed as a letter of disassociation?
I ask because it means I am saying I don't believe the GB is the channel Jehovah is using.
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Medi-tator
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So very awesome! You did not lose your relationship with Jehovah and Jesus like many others who have been stumbled by the GB have. Massive applause for you Brother Bruce!
Seadog
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Hello Bruce
I stuck to the facts about the vax and provable injury etc etc. by inference I was saying GB was wrong but stopped short of inflammatory rhetoric. Concluded by saying my conscience would not allow me to continue as an elder. Let them draw their own conclusions as to your view of the GB.
I was warned about not discussing my views with the cong although they could find nothing factually wrong with my letter. I responded by saying if anyone asked they would be told. I’ll send it to you if you want Bruce. Probably lacking but I did spend lots of time on it. By not excluding yourself from the cong I think u have more opportunities to help bros when it all starts falling apart. Who knows??
I stuck to the facts about the vax and provable injury etc etc. by inference I was saying GB was wrong but stopped short of inflammatory rhetoric. Concluded by saying my conscience would not allow me to continue as an elder. Let them draw their own conclusions as to your view of the GB.
I was warned about not discussing my views with the cong although they could find nothing factually wrong with my letter. I responded by saying if anyone asked they would be told. I’ll send it to you if you want Bruce. Probably lacking but I did spend lots of time on it. By not excluding yourself from the cong I think u have more opportunities to help bros when it all starts falling apart. Who knows??
SusanB
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Or it could mean that you truly and honestly believe the GB is fallible and they have erred. Isn’t that what they actually say?
Thank you Medi -tator, I had never thought of it in that way before.
According to the experts:So, the virus is prejudice.
-You immune system is useless.
-If you sit down on a restaurant, then you are immune, while if you are standing waiting in line then you are not. Altitude is very important.
-If you fall under the category of illegal immigrant/homeless/supporter of the major party/politician then you are immune.
-Sunlight's UV rays and other rays are extremely effective in making short work of viruses/bacteria, except Covid-19. Then it does nothing. If you are Australian, being outside is a danger.
-Wearing a mask that prohibits breathing and potentially cause your judgment to be clouded and supercedes potential risks such as causing a car crash, or not properly using any heavy machinery.
-SARS COV-19 is the only virus that needs the sick to be sent to live with the elderly in nursing homes, and someone that is healthy enough to walk/run and carry out daily activities need to be quarantined. According to China, if you see a man walking towards you that has Covid-19, you are better off going into a building on fire.
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Ms_ladyblue
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@DavidCJ I knew that…I was just being sarcastic.
It just goes to show how ridiculous this nonsense is. I remember trying to reason with people about some of theses points and they would either stare at and one elder told me ”yes, this is a dangerous virus! It’s really seriouw, people are dying!”
Now that to me is a superstitious mentality!
I was trying to as well but apparently I failed.@DavidCJ I knew that…I was just being sarcastic.
It just goes to show how ridiculous this nonsense is. I remember trying to reason with people about some of theses points and they would either stare at and one elder told me ”yes, this is a dangerous virus! It’s really seriouw, people are dying!”
Now that to me is a superstitious mentality!
Nomex
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According to the GB Satan had a change of heart and used his system to provide God's people with a "safe and effective" vaccine, to keep God's people "in the land of the living." At which point Jehovah apparently said, "Oh, that's a great idea, who needs the healing power of Jesus and his sacrifice when all you need is a vaccine!"
Yes, it really is this absurd!
Ms_ladyblue
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Nah, you didn’t fail @DavidCJ. Just in case, to begin with, I didn’t want anyone thinking I was oblivious to what is going on and just now waking up to all of this nonsense.I was trying to as well but apparently I failed.
The anointed
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That is why Jehovah had to bring the flood to eliminate them and restart reproduction from pure humans like Noah and his family.Jesus warned us “As in the days of Noah, so too will the coming of the Son of Man be.” JWs and many other “Christians” only look to the next bit of the verse to see that no one will be paying attention and want to imagine that’s the whole of the prophecy.
But there was A LOT more going on in Noah’s day than just eating and drinking and being given in marriage. When Jesus was alive, part of their well known and often referred to scripture included the book of Enoch, see the letter of Jude for proof of that. Anyone who has not read or heard the book of Enoch NEEDS to. Here’s a link to an audio version
Book Of Enoch - With Full Audio and Imagery
The Book of Enoch (also 1 Enoch;[1] Ge'ez: መጽሐፈ ሄኖክ mets’iḥāfe hēnoki) is an ancient Jewish religious work, ascribed by tradition to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. The older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) of the text are estima…www.bitchute.com
Here is a link to a website where you can read the text online or download a PDF, all free...
I know it’s not of the 66 book canonical text, BUT please consider WHO commissioned the selecting of the 66 books and WHO carried out the job. A Roman Emperor and the Roman Catholic Church. Need I say more? LoL! Also, the number 66 is very suspicious IMO.
Probably few people are actually going to read the book of Enoch, so I will include the key points which tell us what it was like to be living in the days of Noah.
We all know there were giants on the earth in those days, specifically there were the “Nephilim”, which were abominations of fallen angels and human women. But if we consider the prevalence of mythical creatures throughout the ancient world in the forms of half animal half human hybrids, is it really a big stretch to conclude that PERHAPS the fallen angels were copulating with animals as well as humans? OR PERHAPS some of the “knowledge” the fallen angels imparted to mankind was the knowledge of genetics and splicing? Both of which could have resulted in creatures like mermaids, centaurs, etc...
What would be the purpose for the fallen angels to do such things? Go back to Genesis 3:15 “And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.” This is the declaration of what is known as “The Seed War” Satan knew that his destruction would come by virtue of the WOMAN’S offspring (seed). So what happened in Genesis 6 was Satan’s attempt to corrupt the “generations” (genetics) of mankind with the seed of fallen angels and/or animals. Manipulate the DNA, mankind is no longer “fully human”, thus the seed of the woman is no longer just the seed of a human woman and then Satan can “win” against God on a technicality. Notice what Genesis 6:9 says about Noah and his “generations” (genetics) “These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, and **perfect in his generations**: Noah walked with God.” (American Standard Version) The NWT really messed this verse up... all other translations have “perfect in his generations” and that is the key point. Noah’s GENERATIONS (genetics) were Perfectly HUMAN, not corrupted by the fallen angels or the knowledge they had brought to mankind to corrupt their DNA.
Everyone needs to look into this and learn about this. Our lives depend on it! Our souls depend on it!
It was clear the effect of mixing humans with angels' genes as all the earth was filled with violence, what will also probably happen with these vaccine gene modifications. We are already seeing the effects.
"Now is NOT the time to watch a sunset" a politician gave that grave warning in Melbourne, Australia.
The anointed
Member
Yes. It reminds me the case of Nicodemus, who met Christ at night so that nobody saw him and then he could keep his position among the Pharisees. Although he recognised that Jesus was the son of God, he lost the opportunity to be one of his 12 disciples. In fact, none of the leaders was chosen, but simple men without any position of authority. It seems that the more "previleges" you have, the harder will be to follow Christ when he comes back. The case of the apostle Paul was an exception but after being blinded.
Moreover, we remember how Peter and other apostles were arrested and how they tried to silence them but they obeyed God and kept telling the truth. So here is the point, when Jesus comes back, it will the time to speak openly to God's people and be ready to be disfellowshipped (John 16:2) and persecuted for telling the truth. We clearly see that they didn't remain silence, but preached even in the temple.
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