Stepping down as an elder

[BillyRay]

I have been dealing another major issue since late 2011 where I needed the support of my local elders, but I got the opposite!!! This major issue has not yet been finished, but I have not left Jehovah or his organisation as he has let know that it is the wheat and weeds growing together till the harvest and other scriptures to tame my anger at the local elders and GB. Many other JWs in my situation leave the organisation as they are too hurt and disgusted with the GB polices and all the elders do exactly what the GB tell them. It would not help me or my major issue that is not yet finished to leave the Jehovah's Witness organisation, so I grumble to myself about the various problems I am dealing with as a result of the GB not doing their job properly. I also do PRAY especially when I need Jehovah's help, but my prayers do not alleviate the GB from doing their job properly.
Know that there are Jehovah's Witnesses not happy with the GB policies and procedures, but are grumbling like me and praying.

Hello Liz. Welcome.

 

[KevinB]

Sutter home, a good and convincing point to get across to others is to say baptism means our dedication to Jehovah, not a vaccine. And if privileges are withheld because they are following their far leftist NY politicians orders because they are listening to the superior authorities. They are wrong. The superior authority of the United States of America is the U.S. constitution, not some corrupt politician that took vaccine company bribe money for enforcing rules and regulations. And the vaccines affect your body and your blood. It's not a blood transfusion but it's genetically modified material entering your bloodstream, which is supposed to be kept sacred. So you feel like you have to step down in good conscious which makes sense as they're really pushing it hard in areas with much enforcement with that corrupt witch Kathy Hochel. Imagine taking orders from that witch and saying it's aligned with Jehovah's way. And for the Canadian brothers and sisters seeing much COVID enforcement from Justin Trudeau government. A guy who sides with woke politics than anything Godly or Christian. Imagine listening to those enemies of God. It would bother my conscience too but I'm in Florida and we have someone who has undone the COVID madness. I don't think the GB cares about his so called superior authority even though he doesn't have that power anyways as the U.S. constitution supersedes their authority as governor's of the state.

Because most JW's don't pay attention to politics is the reason why so many will die because of lack of knowledge. As I'm seeing a lot of deaths happening sadly from the brothers and sisters who were coerced into getting vaccinated, believing in the false premise of loving their neighbors. What they don't realize is that evil takes advantage of good hearted people by making them believe they are doing something good. Much like how Satan convinced Eve she would be doing something good if she ate from the fruit. I see the vaccination propaganda in the same light.

"Much like how Satan convinced Eve she would be doing something good if she ate from the fruit. I see the vaccination propaganda in the same light" - That's an excellent point, it was also a point of no return. The GB really messed up will they ever recover? The Watchtower is done and done

 

[KevinB]

I know this is not going to be a popular nor widely accepted method of exit... but if I were you and in your position of relative authority, I would go out with a bang... if you still have speaking privileges, I would wait til your next assigned talk and write two talks, submit one on the topic you are given for review and give another talk full of useful information on the vaccines to the congregation. That way you would not just be getting yourself out quietly but you would have a chance to rouse some other sheep to perhaps follow your lead. Jehovah’s people are being misled and strongly deluded by the GB who appear to be under Satan’s control and influence. If you do choose to go this route, please video record it and share it with the world. The GB wants nothing more than to silence people like us and you make their job very easy when you just submit a letter and slink off in the dark, leaving the rest of your congregation in the dark as well.
I know it is an extreme way to go out but if we keep dropping out silently without a fight then Satan wins on a technicality. Recall how bold Jesus was when he went and spoke to the congregations in the synagogues, often in direct opposition to the Pharisees and their mind control slave grip they had over Jehovah’s people.

Agreed! Although, that makes for sweaty palms syndrome, but it's better than "sudden death syndrome". I think of the work of the two witnesses The message: "Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues” (Re 18:4)

 

[DoubleThink333]

Agreed! Although, that makes for sweaty palms syndrome, but it's better than "sudden death syndrome". I think of the work of the two witnesses The message: "Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues” (Re 18:4)

YES! It’s not going to be a comfortable and happy message to deliver but I believe someday soon, Jehovah will give someone currently in a position of power in the JW org the courage and more importantly the words to speak so that Jehovah’s people will listen and take heed.
That scripture you cited is exactly the one that put a fire and urgency in me to get out of the JW.org religion when I did, just a few months ago...

 

[KevinB]

Uggh, I was going to say you would lose freeness of speech and then I saw Robert said that as your first answer. It's maddening but I think there are more reasons to stay than to go. I was just at two LDC projects with different groups of people. Nice time, I can see the benefit of this organization and how everyone was getting along and accomplishing things. Everyone super PIMI but almost no masks, even though its in the guidance that its not optional on the LDC sites indoors. Yay for them, all of them collectively not being rigid about it even though the directions are. If people like you leave positions of authority what fills the void?

Not to be a jerk, but I'm going to kindly disagree. What is the job of the two witnesses? Is their message directed only to Christendom or does it include JW's. What about the message “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues". Who is that message directed against, just Christendom or JW's also? (Re 18:4) I'm guessing you get were I'm going with this.

Personally I believe when they identified themselves as the "faithful slave" back in 2012 that was the straw that broke the camel's back, or Jehovah's last straw, because they took Christ's place "over" his congregation, apparently by a direct appointment from Christ. A HUGE LIE. They began to disfellowship any anointed who called them out on it. So it was a PURGE. They put the power to say who's anointed into their own hands and wrestled it from God. The vaccination mandates seems to be a symptom of this big lie, and this situation reveals to spiritually astute people that the GB, the org and the Corporation have lost God's spirit. Now they are killing people physically by enforcing VAX mandates. Faithful slave? Right!

My point is this, the longer people stay in the more danger they face, both spiritually and physically. Besides the WT corporation is done, it's done like dinner, because corporations must obey the laws of the land. Does it seem like their willing to abandon the corp. to remain faithful to Jah? Nope! They proved that in 2012 when they identified themselves as the faithful slave to cuddle up to this world. But what you do see happening is real spiritual people who love Jehovah and the truth leaving and separating themselves from the org. What is Jehovah telling us when we see this happening more frequently? They are trying to protect their spirituality and relationship with Jah.

Also if people leave in droves then there is hope that maybe this will shock the remaining brothers and they may repent and see a need to set matters straight. If people leave they can always go back if things are set straight and reorganized around the truth. That is better than being involve in a conspiracy against Jehovah that is literally and spiritually being used to fight against those who love God and the truth. However logic dictates the Watchtower corporation will never recover.

To me the two witnesses and the message to get out of her my people serve as instructions for those who wake up to this situation.

 

[DoubleThink333]

Not to be a jerk, but I'm going to kindly disagree. What is the job of the two witnesses? Is their message directed only to Christendom or does it include JW's. What about the message “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues". Who is that message directed against, just Christendom or JW's also? (Re 18:4) I'm guessing you get were I'm going with this.

Personally I believe when they identified themselves as the "faithful slave" back in 2012 that was the straw that broke the camel's back, or Jehovah's last straw, because they took Christ's place "over" his congregation, apparently by a direct appointment from Christ. A HUGE LIE. They began to disfellowship any anointed who called them out on it. So it was a PURGE. They put the power to say who's anointed into their own hands and wrestled it from God. The vaccination mandates seems to be a symptom of this big lie, and this situation reveals to spiritually astute people that the GB, the org and the Corporation have lost God's spirit. Now they are killing people physically by enforcing VAX mandates. Faithful slave? Right!

My point is this, the longer people stay in the more danger they face, both spiritually and physically. Besides the WT corporation is done, it's done like dinner, because corporations must obey the laws of the land. Does it seem like their willing to abandon the corp. to remain faithful to Jah? Nope! They proved that in 2012 when they identified themselves as the faithful slave to cuddle up to this world. But what you do see happening is real spiritual people who love Jehovah and the truth leaving and separating themselves from the org. What is Jehovah telling us when we see this happening more frequently? They are trying to protect their spirituality and relationship with Jah.

Also if people leave in droves then there is hope that maybe this will shock the remaining brothers and they may repent and see a need to set matters straight. If people leave they can always go back if things are set straight and reorganized around the truth. That is better than being involve in a conspiracy against Jehovah that is literally and spiritually being used to fight against those who love God and the truth. However logic dictates the Watchtower corporation will never recover.

To me the two witnesses and the message to get out of her my people serve as instructions for those who wake up to this situation.

I agree with you 100% continuing to stay in a corrupt religious organization is dangerous to your physical and spiritual health. It would take a very strong personality and spirit to endure the ungodliness which permeates that organization and be able to maintain individual integrity to Jehovah and Jesus. I don’t think it is right to encourage those sheep who have been bruised and beaten to continue to stay with their abusive and callous shepherd. HOWEVER, I do see the other side f this argument as valid in SOME VERY SPECIAL CASES. If there is such a mentally and spiritually strong individual who could endure to the end, to be there as a “trusted” brother or sister to those bruised and battered sheep, essentially suffering from Stockholm syndrome, if and when they ever realize the true nature of their abusers it would be beneficial to them to have someone that even their abusers still consider a trustworthy individual, in order to lead more away from the evil slave. But the amount of people who could actually withstand such torment would be very few indeed! Perhaps that is why the Bible only speaks of TWO witnesses (LoL joking!) because two is not a lot of people and I don’t think a lot of people will have the ability to stay in the false religion. But if they can, they may be of help to others as more and more wake up and need help to move out....

 

[A B]

Not to be a jerk, but I'm going to kindly disagree. What is the job of the two witnesses? Is their message directed only to Christendom or does it include JW's. What about the message “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues". Who is that message directed against, just Christendom or JW's also? (Re 18:4) I'm guessing you get were I'm going with this.

Personally I believe when they identified themselves as the "faithful slave" back in 2012 that was the straw that broke the camel's back, or Jehovah's last straw, because they took Christ's place "over" his congregation, apparently by a direct appointment from Christ. A HUGE LIE. They began to disfellowship any anointed who called them out on it. So it was a PURGE. They put the power to say who's anointed into their own hands and wrestled it from God. The vaccination mandates seems to be a symptom of this big lie, and this situation reveals to spiritually astute people that the GB, the org and the Corporation have lost God's spirit. Now they are killing people physically by enforcing VAX mandates. Faithful slave? Right!

My point is this, the longer people stay in the more danger they face, both spiritually and physically. Besides the WT corporation is done, it's done like dinner, because corporations must obey the laws of the land. Does it seem like their willing to abandon the corp. to remain faithful to Jah? Nope! They proved that in 2012 when they identified themselves as the faithful slave to cuddle up to this world. But what you do see happening is real spiritual people who love Jehovah and the truth leaving and separating themselves from the org. What is Jehovah telling us when we see this happening more frequently? They are trying to protect their spirituality and relationship with Jah.

Also if people leave in droves then there is hope that maybe this will shock the remaining brothers and they may repent and see a need to set matters straight. If people leave they can always go back if things are set straight and reorganized around the truth. That is better than being involve in a conspiracy against Jehovah that is literally and spiritually being used to fight against those who love God and the truth. However logic dictates the Watchtower corporation will never recover.

To me the two witnesses and the message to get out of her my people serve as instructions for those who wake up to this situation.

I don't think you are being a jerk. I understand why you are saying what you are saying. I have a slightly different take on some of it. I believe when we reason on Jesus' words at Luke 12:41 & 42 it is very evident that the appointment to distribute food is rooted in the first century and comparing subsequent verses and also Matt 24, whoever is found faithful to that assignment will be appointed over all the belongings at Jesus' future coming. I do not believe the Bible supports a third appointment of a title of faithful and discreet before they are actually found faithful and discrete at Jesus coming.

But within that context, the change in 2012 was rooted in protecting an older anointed sister in Australia who was named as a defendant in a law suit because she was part of the 'faithful and discrete slave'. The change was announced in court testimony that was put forth (of the new understanding) to get her excused from the suit before it was published in the literature, that is how I know the change was made to protect her. And in reality, it didn't really change much or any of the way business was conducted.

To me the overreach was to say 'faithful and discrete' prematurely regardless of who is or isn't supposedly filling that role. I don't understand how or why you think the change in 2012 was to cuddle up to this world. ??

For the record, I cringed when they said, "What does Jehovah know" about the vaccines. They have admitted that they are not infallible on organizational or doctrinal matters yet for some reason Jehovah is going to step in and not let them get this wrong? I do not understand this but that is far as I go in my mind right now but I am paying attention.

 

[KevinB]

I don't think you are being a jerk. I understand why you are saying what you are saying. I have a slightly different take on some of it. I believe when we reason on Jesus' words at Luke 12:41 & 42 it is very evident that the appointment to distribute food is rooted in the first century and comparing subsequent verses and also Matt 24, whoever is found faithful to that assignment will be appointed over all the belongings at Jesus' future coming. I do not believe the Bible supports a third appointment of a title of faithful and discreet before they are actually found faithful and discrete at Jesus coming.

But within that context, the change in 2012 was rooted in protecting an older anointed sister in Australia who was named as a defendant in a law suit because she was part of the 'faithful and discrete slave'. The change was announced in court testimony that was put forth (of the new understanding) to get her excused from the suit before it was published in the literature, that is how I know the change was made to protect her. And in reality, it didn't really change much or any of the way business was conducted.

To me the overreach was to say 'faithful and discrete' prematurely regardless of who is or isn't supposedly filling that role. I don't understand how or why you think the change in 2012 was to cuddle up to this world. ??

For the record, I cringed when they said, "What does Jehovah know" about the vaccines. They have admitted that they are not infallible on organizational or doctrinal matters yet for some reason Jehovah is going to step in and not let them get this wrong? I do not understand this but that is far as I go in my mind right now but I am paying attention.

I get what your saying. Have your read https://mybelovedreligion.no/

I tossed it a bit and he also makes some good points. Worth considering another perspective. He was quite prominent and disfellowship couple years ago because he said the GB had become authoritarian. He does a deep linguistic dive in MT 24 Luke 12 about the faithful slave. Made me think outside of the box.

Just something else to consider I guess.

 

[mts]

Yes and he is also the 'researchers' mentioned in the 11/1/11 Watchtower p.25 that said all 13 sets of lunar observations on VAT4956 support 607. (They don't and anyone can verify this.)

Jesus taught clearly, the slave that is faithful and discreet is identified at his coming.

Yeah, Rolf Furuli in that site also mentions why we should not trust/accept the shifting views of the GB. Makes strong arguments as to why, which only compounds on many of the things @Watchman has highlighted in his writings and videos. The lunar observations article reference is linked here. Yeah, does conclude that 607 B.C.E. is the date of Jerusalem's destruction, which would be the starting date of the gentile times... and used to arrive at the 1914 calculation. I'll leave it at that...

 

[Liz]

This should be interesting! I’m sure you know what to avoid saying but at some point the question will probably come up if you still feel Jehovah is directing the organization. That’s definitely a trap to take things further. As an update my husband avoided all discussions with the elders after he submitted his letter in November. Last week after many requests to meet he texted several of them back saying after the December letter from the org about all schools require the vx his decision was reinforced and there was no need to talk. They finally announced he was no longer an elder this week. It’s over and he’s relieved. Please update us how it goes with them!

Your husband is the only elder that I know of that refused to have the covid-19 "vaccine". Your husband has more guts and brains than all the elders in my local area. All the elders in my local area have taken the covid-19 "vaccine". I do not yet know of any JWs in my city that have had died from the covid-19 "vaccine", even though there are few JWs that have mild side affects like cold or flu like symptoms. One elder and his wife frequently get cold or flus months after his covid-19 vaccination. The wife refused to get the covid-19 "vaccine", but her husband got the covid-19 "vaccine". The wife has not yet connected the dots and realised that their cold and flus are possibly from the covid-19 "vaccine" .
I refused to have the covid-19 "vaccine", as it has and is still causing death and injury. Sometimes the covid-19 "vaccine" injuries are permanent and the person with these injuries cannot hold their job, but they were forced to get the covid-19 "vaccine" to keep their job. Not taking the covid-19 "vaccine" caused me alot of stress last year when I had to get work that required me to get the covid-19 "vaccine". I will not take the covid-19 "vaccine", as Jehovah has let me know not to take the covid-19 "vaccine", as it is the same category as smoking. ie it is bad for your health and hence you should not take the covid-19 "vaccine" into your body. 1 Corinthians 3.16,17 - we are God's temple and hence we need to look after our body. If we do not look after our body God will destroy us. There are other scriptures that support my feelings on JWs not taking the vaccine.
The GB will have to answer for not taking care of their flock when we needed them.

 

[Liz]

Agreed! Although, that makes for sweaty palms syndrome, but it's better than "sudden death syndrome". I think of the work of the two witnesses The message: "Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues” (Re 18:4)

I have tried to talk to a few JWs in my local area regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" not being safe for us and the GB should not be telling anyone or even suggesting to take this medical injections/"vaccines". All the JWs I spoke to regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" totally refused to consider what I was trying to tell them. This is exactly like trying to tell people who are not JWs that there is no hell, and no trinity etc!!! It also has shown that most JWs are sheep and do what ever the GB tell them to without doing any research for themselves if what the GB tells to is correct. For along time the GB have told us do your own research using the Bible and other tools and make your own decisions if this is a correct option for you. But with the covid-19 "vaccines" the GB did not force us to take the covid-19 "vaccines", but they definitely tried to encourage us take the covid-19 "vaccines", by their multiple videos on jw.org talking about the benefits of these "vaccines". It is their job to take care of their flock and defend us and support us if needed in court or suchlike, by using their lawyers to help us. We have helped the GB financially and with prayers for years, and in return they have thrown us to the wolves and lions. Jehovah sees all the GB have done and will hold them accountable in the future.

 

[Liz]

Yes and he is also the 'researchers' mentioned in the 11/1/11 Watchtower p.25 that said all 13 sets of lunar observations on VAT4956 support 607. (They don't and anyone can verify this.)

Jesus taught clearly, the slave that is faithful and discreet is identified at his coming.

 

[Liz]

I wonder who the faithful and discreet slave will be when Jesus comes. The GB have shown to us with their atrocious behavior with the child sex abuse issue and the covid-19 vaccines that they are not behaving like the faithful and discreet slave, as they have not been faithful to their heavenly father Jehovah and to their flock in these major issues.

 

[SusanB]

I have tried to talk to a few JWs in my local area regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" not being safe for us and the GB should not be telling anyone or even suggesting to take this medical injections/"vaccines". All the JWs I spoke to regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" totally refused to consider what I was trying to tell them. This is exactly like trying to tell people who are not JWs that there is no hell, and no trinity etc!!! It also has shown that most JWs are sheep and do what ever the GB tell them to without doing any research for themselves if what the GB tells to is correct. For along time the GB have told us do your own research using the Bible and other tools and make your own decisions if this is a correct option for you. But with the covid-19 "vaccines" the GB did not force us to take the covid-19 "vaccines", but they definitely tried to encourage us take the covid-19 "vaccines", by their multiple videos on jw.org talking about the benefits of these "vaccines". It is their job to take care of their flock and defend us and support us if needed in court or suchlike, by using their lawyers to help us. We have helped the GB financially and with prayers for years, and in return they have thrown us to the wolves and lions. Jehovah sees all the GB have done and will hold them accountable in the future.

This entire issue has revealed who are following commands of men and who are actually looking to Jehovah and his Son for guidance. Thank you for your comments. You are not alone.

Mark 7:6-8: “He said to them: “Isaiah aptly prophesied about you hypocrites, as it is written, ‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.’ You let go of the commandment of God and cling to the tradition of men.”

 

[SusanB]

I wonder who the faithful and discreet slave will be when Jesus comes. The GB have shown to us with their atrocious behavior with the child sex abuse issue and the covid-19 vaccines that they are not behaving like the faithful and discreet slave, as they have not been faithful to their heavenly father Jehovah and to their flock in these major issues.

There is a thread on Chapter 5 of Robert King’s book that explains what the bible says about the revealing of the sealed anointed ones after Jesus appears to them.

The Parousia - Chapter 5

This chapter is another one that is full of great faith strengthening information and really helps us to focus on what is an event so important that it will signal the “complete culmination of the christian era”. To start I wanted to list 3 terms that are highlighted in this chapter so that we...

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[Liz]

Hi @Liz are you new to the forum? Didn't see any introduction for you in that thread. Anyway, can totally empathize with your situation. It is unfortunate that many elders (generalizing) don't measure their words or reflect on how they can hurt more than motivate or encourage. You are not alone by no means. Perhaps if you would like support, feedback, advice or comments on how best to handle your major issue, etc. perhaps create a new Thread to create discussion? Psalms 119:165, applied generally, focuses in on us continuing to love Jah and follow/live by his laws, wherever you are. In that respect, no one can be stumbled by the actions of another as we don't serve man/men, but yet only the father, Jehovah.

Thank you for your kind words, but know that I am not stumbled. Although I am angry at the GB for their atrocious behaviour in regards to a personal issue that I have been dealing with for over 30 years. Since late 2011 I particularly needed the support of the local JWs in my area, but I got the exact opposite!!! This personal has not yet been finished - it still ongoing . It would achieve nothing and help no one if I left JW org, but I know that many JWs in my local area would rather I was not at their meetings so that they would not see a constant reminder of their atrocious behavior they have done to me. But that is their problem - not my mine. As I serve Jehovah - not men or the GB or the JWs causing me trouble.
But more importantly the GB's behavior in regards to the covid-19 "vaccine" not protecting and supporting their flock from this "vaccine". Instead the GB have been actively encouraging their flock to take this "vaccine", and mandating the elders to take this "vaccine"!!! Jehovah will hold the GB to account. The GB will not escape Jehovah's wrath!!!

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

This should be interesting! I’m sure you know what to avoid saying but at some point the question will probably come up if you still feel Jehovah is directing the organization. That’s definitely a trap to take things further. As an update my husband avoided all discussions with the elders after he submitted his letter in November. Last week after many requests to meet he texted several of them back saying after the December letter from the org about all schools require the vx his decision was reinforced and there was no need to talk. They finally announced he was no longer an elder this week. It’s over and he’s relieved. Please update us how it goes with them!

That must have been a dreadful time for you both. When I left I still remember the mental agony to this day. Never doubt that you did the right thing. The improved relationship with Jehovah and understanding of the truth is simply incomparable to what it was when living in shadow of watchtower. I never believed it possible, but it was and remains so.

 

[Liz]

Take this with you and play it for them.

There is alot of parallel in this video with how some JWs behave, while thinking they are behaving as Jehovah and Jesus have taught them to behave. It has become very clear to me that many JWs worship the GB regardless of what the GB says. The JWs worshipping the GB do not see that they are worshipping the GB. By worshipping the GB these false JWs are behaving very badly by protecting and supporting their fellow JWs who need them .
It has become very clear to me with the covid-19 "vaccine" mandates that many JWs are worshipping the GB as most of the JWs in my local area have taken this fake "vaccine". None of the JWs in my local that have taken the fake "vaccine" have died from the fake "vaccine" or have had major side affects. Hence these JWs have no compassion for people who have died or have had major side affects from the fake "vaccine", even though some of these JWs have had major health issues leading up to taking the fake "vaccine" and like to talk about their health issues and want and need compassion. As they have no compassion for other people with health problems caused by the fake "vaccine", they are not behaving in a Godly manner/Christlike manner. These fake JWs are behaving very badly and doing what Satan wants be not doing what Jesus and Jehovah tell to do when people need compassion.

 

[Liz]

That must have been a dreadful time for you both. When I left I still remember the mental agony to this day. Never doubt that you did the right thing. The improved relationship with Jehovah and understanding of the truth is simply incomparable to what it was when living in shadow of watchtower. I never believed it possible, but it was and remains so.

I am angry at the GB for their atrocious behaviour in regards to a personal issue that I have been dealing with for over 30 years. Since late 2011 I particularly needed the support of the local JWs in my area, but I got the exact opposite!!! This personal has not yet been finished - it still ongoing . It would achieve nothing and help no one if I left JW org, but I know that many JWs in my local area would rather I was not at their meetings so that they would not see a constant reminder of their atrocious behavior they have done to me. But that is their problem - not my mine. As I serve Jehovah - not men or the GB or the JWs causing me trouble.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

I am angry at the GB for their atrocious behaviour in regards to a personal issue that I have been dealing with for over 30 years. Since late 2011 I particularly needed the support of the local JWs in my area, but I got the exact opposite!!! This personal has not yet been finished - it still ongoing . It would achieve nothing and help no one if I left JW org, but I know that many JWs in my local area would rather I was not at their meetings so that they would not see a constant reminder of their atrocious behavior they have done to me. But that is their problem - not my mine. As I serve Jehovah - not men or the GB or the JWs causing me trouble.

I cannot help but agree with your anger over the blindness shown by otherwise well meaning witnesses. It is a contradiction in terms of the principles of truth yet necessary in the prophesy of our times to illustrate the need to “get out” of the corruptive running sore that the watchtower has become. Were that not the case, how would we be warned of the coming catastrophe? As the scripture says, “…do not be terrified….but to lift your head up for your deliverance is near.” Your anger is righteous, just as it was with Jesus when he took apart the money changers in the temple. If you were not angry, you would have cause for concern. Therefore, rejoice in your anger for you have been shown the truth. You will feel better for it as it is rightly placed and by doing so, your anger will be channeled into joy at having been enlightened by understanding. The bible tells us that the yoke of Christ is easy, undoubtably meaning that the understanding of truth and compliance with it, though hard at times when we fail - but also when we are alive to the situation in watchtower, gives us an inner peace. The battle is not ours to fight, but if you are still working at the coal-face, then you are constantly at war with it. That is a hard but honourable path to choose so take care of yourself not to loose the joy of peace that comes with the understanding that we have been given. It is key to our endurance.

 

[Liz]

I cannot help but agree with your anger over the blindness shown by otherwise well meaning witnesses. It is a contradiction in terms of the principles of truth yet necessary in the prophesy of our times to illustrate the need to “get out” of the corruptive running sore that the watchtower has become. Were that not the case, how would we be warned of the coming catastrophe? As the scripture says, “…do not be terrified….but to lift your head up for your deliverance is near.” Your anger is righteous, just as it was with Jesus when he took apart the money changers in the temple. If you were not angry, you would have cause for concern. Therefore, rejoice in your anger for you have been shown the truth. You will feel better for it as it is rightly placed and by doing so, your anger will be channeled into joy at having been enlightened by understanding. The bible tells us that the yoke of Christ is easy, undoubtably meaning that the understanding of truth and compliance with it, though hard at times when we fail - but also when we are alive to the situation in watchtower, gives us an inner peace. The battle is not ours to fight, but if you are still working at the coal-face, then you are constantly at war with it. That is a hard but honourable path to choose so take care of yourself not to loose the joy of peace that comes with the understanding that we have been given. It is key to our endurance.

I am still at the coal face (in the JW org) dealing with the major problem I mentioned above that has been ongoing for over 30 years. Last year the real face of the JWs in my local area came to the surface due to the covid-19 "vaccine" mandates that I was forced to endure with no help from anyone in the JW org. I did not take the covid-19 "vaccine", but it caused me alot of stress when I had to get the covid-19 to finish my health certificate. Our government required people doing this health certificate to get the covid-19 "vaccine", but I could not take this covid-19 "vaccine" due to following a clear instruction from Jehovah at 1 Corinthians 3:16,17 - not to ruin our body, or God will destroy us.
The JWs in my local area think the GB are correct in telling us to take the covid-19 "vaccine" and about 95% have taken this bioweapon. Most of these people have not done any research that is out there on the internet, and there is alot of information on the internet that these covid-19 "vaccines" are injuring and killing people on a large scale, although not large enough for robot JWs to think for themselves .
The covid-19 "vaccines" are now going to be investigated in Florida in a grand jury as they are killing and injuring people.
https://greenmedinfo.com/blog/flori...antis-request-investigate-covid-vaccine-manuf

24 Hours Before Reporting to Prison Unjustly Convicted J6 Defendant Stewart Parks Says 'Judicial Elites in DC Want to Stomp Me Down' - Tennessee Star

January 6 defendant Stewart Parks joined Monday’s edition of The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy.

tennesseestar.com

Florida Supreme Court approves DeSantis request for grand jury to investigate COVID shots - LifeSite

Grand jury will investigate the claims made by shot manufacturers.

www.lifesitenews.com

Japan has launched an official investigation into the the covid-19 "vaccines".

Japan Launches Official Investigation Into Millions of COVID Vaccine Deaths

Japan has launched an official investigation into the unprecedented numbers of people dying after receiving the Covid-19 vaccination.

newspunch.com

Since early 2020 the GB have consistently called the inflated influenza statistics a pandemic. I know that is what governments and main stream news were calling the flu outbreak, but a few people knew early on in the "pandemic" that it was a scam/fake. Some of these people had medical training, but not every person that saw the pandemic as scam had medical training. These people that saw the pandemic as a scam knew things were not adding up and could see through the pandemic scam. I knew by mid 2020 that the lockdowns were not needed, but I was not able to do anything the change lockdowns. So the GB have had success with the blood issue even though they have no medical training in a university, but they could not see the pandemic as a scam???!!!
You can see by the 2 attached files that the inflated influenza was made in a lab and the US patent for vaccine nanotech an agent of biowarfare. I did not make these documents. I downloaded these documents from twitter.

God Does Not Support Vaccines

An updated, original version of the most popular article ever written on the biblical argument against vaccination.

meganredshaw.substack.com

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What You Need to Know About Your Right to a COVID Vaccine Religious Exemption in the Workplace

This article is designed to provide you with the relevant law you may need to include in your religious vaccine exemption request, and will help you understand your rights as an employee.

thevaultproject.org

 

[Citrine]

@Sutterhome any update on your meeting you can share?

 

[Sutterhome]

They were in shock when I told them I no longer wanted to serve as elder after 24 years. We met at my home. 80% of the convo was about red pilling them on the vax and mandates. One said it was like wearing a seat belt. Smh. They just think WT is trying to be extra safe, nothing nefarious. I just made the theme about control. Tried to talk me about of it, but that was pointless.
They think I am spiritually weak, which is 100% false.

SH

 

[Citrine]

They were in shock when I told them I no longer wanted to serve as elder after 24 years. We met at my home. 80% of the convo was about red pilling them on the vax and mandates. One said it was like wearing a seat belt. Smh. They just think WT is trying to be extra safe, nothing nefarious. I just made the theme about control. Tried to talk me about of it, but that was pointless.
They think I am spiritually weak, which is 100% false.

SH

That sounds about right. We too are getting messages from the elders that they’re worried for us. One elder even left a message that they’ve been watching for us on Zoom and have been keeping track that we are no longer logging in - not creepy at all!
Do you think you made a dent with them or is it too much for them? Did they accept your letter?

 

[BillyRay]

Jesus taught clearly, the slave that is faithful and discreet is identified at his coming.

The fact that they believe that Jesus took Kingdom power in 1914 gives them license to say that they have already been identified as being the faithful slave.

Another reason why they must continue to perpetrate the 1914 hoax. .