Strange sightings, UFOs, Nazca Mummies, Crop Circles, Cattle Mutilation, and EBEs- the Nephilim:
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Can airplanes fly low to the ground for prolonged periods of time? If not, why?
Answer (1 of 30): Flying aircraft at low level results in much higher levels of buffet - you might be able to fly low, assuming you can successfully navigate at low level, but unless your plane has been designed for it, you may eat up the fatigue life of the aircraft very quickly. In the middle ...
From Quora, How long could you operate a modern airliner at full take off thrust:
Most transport category aircraft (i.e. “airliner”) are rated for TOGA power (Take-Off / Go-Around, i.e. “full thrust”) for 5 minutes if all engines are operating and 10 minutes in an engine-out situation.
Engine ratings are based on keeping the probability of serious failures below a set threshold. Engines operated at high power are more likely to fail - not very much more likely, but a little more likely. Engines operated at high power also suffer greater wear, and the inspection intervals on engines are calculated so that the chance of serious failure is low enough even if the engine is operated at high power for some of that time. Operating the engine at high power for more than that time will increase the chance of failure before the next overhaul or inspection.
In addition, TOGA power with all engines operating on a modern aircraft is a lot of thrust. The crew will be able to get out of most kinds of trouble (windshear, climb above terrain, etc) within 5 minutes, let alone 10. Something like a 737 will climb at several thousand feet per minute with TOGA thrust, which is pretty speedy. The 10 minutes if one engine has failed is to allow an aircraft to escape mountains or other terrain.
However, given that the engine-out TOGA power time is 10 minutes, we can be sure that the engine can be operated successfully at that power level even if all engines are operating.
Modern engines are extremely reliable and can continue to operate if stressed well beyond their usual operating parameters, though you will need to inspect and probably overhaul the engine afterwards. So the answer is “At least 10 minutes, probably a lot longer”.
The actual power rating for maximum long-term thrust is called MCT - Maximum Continuous - and the engine can operate for at least the time required to get to a diversion airfield under the certification rules of the aircraft and operator. MCT is a lower power rating than TOGA. The usual standard operating procedure in case of engine failure in a twin-engine jet transport is to increase thrust on the remaining engine to MCT and divert to the nearest suitable airfield. This can be up to 370 minutes away in some types of aircraft, and several types of aircraft can achieve a 330 minute rating. The aircraft and engine manufacturers have to demonstrate that this is possible by flying the aircraft on one engine for this time.
Rijk
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Complot tegen God
Two video's Paul T. Hellyer & Milton William "Bill" Cooper in English.
Quote on the image:
"who told about Armageddon and I wonder if we are the generation to experience that".
BagdadBill
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Most of the people who claim to have seen UFO, Bigfoot or some of these other things, always seem to be odd people. The same can be said for flat earth folks. I've been around a while and we figured out that we do live on a globe. Even my holy book says so and that is good enough for me, since I can prove it using some very basic theory.
I have never been to New York and God willing, I never will. There were no planes as best I can decipher. Without a doubt there were explosive charges set throughout the buildings. Building 7 has never been explained and if you mention it, you're put on the crazy list. Good. I was already on the list for being JW. Maybe now I will accrue points and awards.
Crop circles were proven to be childish hoax. Mischief and nothing more. I used to live near an open range cattle ranch. Occasionally, when a prisoner broke out, we would see some of the cattle butchered for meat and left wasted.
Did I leave anything out? Ah, the nephilim. If I read scripture properly, that was taken care of with the flood. Noah. If it didn't, then what was the point of the flood? Now if we want to get down to reality, one angel could have settled that without one drop of rain but Jehovah chose a flood. That's his business and not mine. We can see the evidence of a global flood. If you want to argue the point, take it up with Him.
I have never been to New York and God willing, I never will. There were no planes as best I can decipher. Without a doubt there were explosive charges set throughout the buildings. Building 7 has never been explained and if you mention it, you're put on the crazy list. Good. I was already on the list for being JW. Maybe now I will accrue points and awards.
Crop circles were proven to be childish hoax. Mischief and nothing more. I used to live near an open range cattle ranch. Occasionally, when a prisoner broke out, we would see some of the cattle butchered for meat and left wasted.
Did I leave anything out? Ah, the nephilim. If I read scripture properly, that was taken care of with the flood. Noah. If it didn't, then what was the point of the flood? Now if we want to get down to reality, one angel could have settled that without one drop of rain but Jehovah chose a flood. That's his business and not mine. We can see the evidence of a global flood. If you want to argue the point, take it up with Him.
Rijk
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@BaghdadBill, I don't believe in a flat Earth. I do believe that there are mutated humans and animals. It is neither from Jehovah nor from Jesus. So it's from Satan. Suppose it's nonsense. Then we won't be bothered just before Armegeddon and the return of Jesus. And is it true. Then we were informed. We will not be shocked. But calm and unafraid. Many brothers and sisters were not informed about the great reset. Perhaps the beginning of the great tribulation (early 2020). And they took the jab in good faith. We are all victims of Big Pharma and its owners. We must be careful and prepared. And as well informed as possible. We don't know exactly what's coming our way. But it will be impressive, that's for sure. "While men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken". (Luke 21:26)
jay
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Welcome to the forum Rijk.
BagdadBill
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I cannot prove you wrong so I won't attempt to. Maybe there are freaks out there who slipped by our radar but I do have to say that in the example we have, they were giants. Something that was never supposed to happen and it went bad.
If they do exist and expose themselves they will find themselves under attack in the modern world. We have equalizers now and we no longer need to fear them. Yes, I mean exactly what that sounds like and I would not hesitate. With the blessing of God I suspect. Either way I would not allow something that ungodly to exist in my presence unchallenged.
Rijk
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BaghdadBill, it's not the most important thing to worry about. Only that we are informed and possibly not surprised later. The Israelites had to stay in the desert for 40 years because they were afraid of the giants. They were not informed, but should have confidence in Jehovah. We must also trust in Jehovah, but we are also informed. Just "keep it in mind". So that nothing can surprise us unexpectedly. Jehovah's Witnesses - I still see them as my brothers and sisters - also think they are awake. But they keep making mistakes when their lives are in danger. I do not believe that in the Resurrection we will be judged by our medical decisions. In the medical world, the lies and deceptions are too big to be easily spotted. The same medical world that messes around with DNA, in the Netherlands the University of Leiden crossed a goat with a spider
That's what it said on their website. I mean. Satan is still doing what he did before the flood. Hybridizing Jehovah's Creation. Easy example: https://www.geekly.nl/7067/3-bizarre-wetenschappelijke-experimenten-met-dieren/
I don't know about any humans, but i think of Dolly the sheep
I had also examined gen 6.4 however, And i personally wanted to commit to the belief that Nephilim were indeed survivors of the flood, and in that belief it would answer some of my speculations.
I used the fact that King David had enemy soldiers measured, and if over a certain height, they were to be put to death. Strengthening the idea that the nephilim DNA was indeed still around and genetically mankind somehow had been contaminated, and that was the justification for all of Israels war, after war, after WAR...(Giant Killing)
"In those days and after" - To me this is not saying what the after is. How long after? it is not specifically saying "After the flood" at all but is in itself just simply saying that they existed , and continued to exist.
Regardless, upon careful examination of the genesis account Jehovah Specifically stated that he was going to wipe out every living being from the earth with the flood. i would never doubt how thorough the Almighty God can be.
(gen 7:4)
HOWEVER, Jehovah said "Every living thing on the ground "that I have made"
In the back of my mind, should I look deeply into this and catch a stray thought insinuating that Jehovah is suggesting that, the Nephiliim are NOT part of that creation? And somehow might survive?
Certainly "Some" could come to that conclusion. But I cannot...
What seals the deal for me into thinking the Nephilim did infact die is verse 21 where it states that ALL living creatures that were moving on the earth, perished.
I would Imagine the hybrids were also Living AND moving creatures
And Died, at that moment In the flood.
Buuuuuuut Im always open to ideas, being a sci fi geek personally...i eat this stuff up.
Maybe they are living INSIDE our Hollow Flat earth!!!!??
I used the fact that King David had enemy soldiers measured, and if over a certain height, they were to be put to death. Strengthening the idea that the nephilim DNA was indeed still around and genetically mankind somehow had been contaminated, and that was the justification for all of Israels war, after war, after WAR...(Giant Killing)
"In those days and after" - To me this is not saying what the after is. How long after? it is not specifically saying "After the flood" at all but is in itself just simply saying that they existed , and continued to exist.
Regardless, upon careful examination of the genesis account Jehovah Specifically stated that he was going to wipe out every living being from the earth with the flood. i would never doubt how thorough the Almighty God can be.
(gen 7:4)
HOWEVER, Jehovah said "Every living thing on the ground "that I have made"
In the back of my mind, should I look deeply into this and catch a stray thought insinuating that Jehovah is suggesting that, the Nephiliim are NOT part of that creation? And somehow might survive?
Certainly "Some" could come to that conclusion. But I cannot...
What seals the deal for me into thinking the Nephilim did infact die is verse 21 where it states that ALL living creatures that were moving on the earth, perished.
I would Imagine the hybrids were also Living AND moving creatures
And Died, at that moment In the flood.
Buuuuuuut Im always open to ideas, being a sci fi geek personally...i eat this stuff up.
Maybe they are living INSIDE our Hollow Flat earth!!!!??
Rijk
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I believe the Ark contained only pure human DNA. The messiah had to be born of a 100% full-blooded woman as God's Son. After the flood, Satan started hybridizing humanity again. Up to the present day. The whole UFO thing has to do with that. It's his thing, not Jehovah and Jesus's. On the image a thought, no more than that.
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KevinB
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I don't know why or how this happens RK
DoubleThink333
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That’s a really long video and I did not watch the whole thing as the guy who’s talking annoys me... but I have heard him speak before and he does make some valid arguments but I think his premise is the multiple incursion...? Which I have to slightly disagree with... I think the genetics of the Nephilim could have POSSIBLY survived the flood via Noah’s sons’ WIVES, thus multiple incursions would not have been necessary to continue the lineage of the Nephilim. It‘s also important to note that most if not all of the “races” of Nephilim came from the lineage of Ham and his son Canaan. Ham “saw his father’s nakedness” which is further explained in Leviticus 18:6-8 as POTENTIALLY including such abominable acts as sexual intercourse with one’s mother or one’s father’s wife. Whatever Ham did to his father or maybe even his mother, was something far more serious than what simply “seeing his father naked” would imply... because of that act, Ham’s son was cursed which leads me to speculate that whatever Ham did would have been so horrendous that it’s consequences would be generational, referred to as “generational iniquity” and what we in our modern times refer to as something called “epigenetics”. By Ham committing such an act and cursing his future generations because of it, he would ultimately be opening up genetic markers in his generations for such things as demonic possession. The apocryphal text of the book of Enoch describes something specific about the Nephilim in that their earthly bodies may be killed but that their “spirits”, because they are half spirit creature and half human, would be cursed to roam the earth without a proper dwelling place. Granted it’s from an extra-biblical text, so take it with a BIG grain of salt 🧂 but IF true, it provides much needed clarification as to HOW the Nephilim could have been on the earth AFTER the flood of Noah. It’s not really something I am going to base my faith on, as all will be revealed in its proper time, but it’s nice to have this information as a possible explanation for what is yet unknown.
You’re not gonna find much openness of mind on this forum about things which are not specifically spelled out in the 66 book biblical canon, but I am a curious person and am willing to ask the “weird and uncomfortable” questions and then seek out any and all potential explanations before I make up my mind and become unreceptive to differing opinions and viewpoints.
DoubleThink333
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Hey Bill! I’m just gonna leave this link here, give it a listen when you have a chance... https://anchor.fm/blurrycreatures/e...nd-the-Nephilim-with-Dr--Laura-Sanger-e1jl3uk
The whole Nephilim thing is a deep dark rabbit hole! The Bible does speak of giants and Nephilim existing AFTER the flood... Goliath and his brothers, King Og, etc. And a question to consider as you read through the Hebrew Scriptures is this “WHY did a loving God condemn entire races to utter annihilation, to even go so far as to include women, children, and even domestic animals of the lands?” Personally, I have come to believe that there was *something* abominable about these races that even the otherwise “innocent” children could not be permitted to live and continue to reproduce. The Bible does not specify what this is beyond spiritual idolatry and sexual immorality, but I think it could possibly be something of the genetic nature, i.e. Nephilim genetics. God’s own people fall prey to the temptations of spiritual idolatry and sexual immorality quite often and yet despite these transgressions, forgiveness through repentance is always available to them, so why wasn’t such grace granted to certain races of people which the Israelites were commanded to decimate? Recall, the original sin of Saul was that he did not completely annihilate the Amalekites as Jehovah had commanded him to do. And so I ask myself “Why was Jehovah so adamant that all of Amalek be completely destroyed, even the women, children, infants and domestic animals?” Jehovah does not do anything for no reason, there IS a reason but it takes some insight and open mindedness to consider the possibilities.
I’m not claiming to know Jehovah’s reasoning, I’m just acknowledging that there is a reason and perhaps the genetics of Nephilim could be a possible reason...
Rijk
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Of course, it's just a drawing, the story is here: https://www.sciencetimes.com/articl...illed-by-us-soldiers-in-afghanistan-claim.htm
I think sometimes. Satan drew some of the angels with him. Angels are intelligent. Demons often scream, don't seem very intelligent when you read about them. Could the demons be the spirits of the Nephilim? So not angels of Satan, but spirits of his Nephilim. The alien issue is - as I think of it - breeding with humans, animals, plants (no kidding), angels and DNA editing. All of Satan, none of Jehovah.
You are suggesting a nephiliim's ghost remained after the body was killed?
Rijk
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Correct. But I have questions about that. What exactly are demons? From 1981 until a few years ago, I believed that demons and the angels who joined Satan's rebellion are the same. But angels are powerful and intelligent. The angels of Jehovah and Jesus, and also the angels of Satan (
( . . . because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. . . Ephesians 6:12)
But demons scream, seem to have gone mad and act uncontrollably, they go into other bodies of people and animals, for example swine. Suppose - I'm really not sure - the demons are the spirits of the half human half angel the Nephilim. I also read somewhere that there are two kinds of Nephilim. Family but both in any case not 100% human. I do believe that the eight souls in Noah's Ark possessed pure human DNA. That they were pure and not mixed.
When I was looking up about the 9/11 incident, here's what I learned.
Airplanes reach high altitudes primarily for the purpose of saving fuel, because the higher you go up, the lower the air density. It's very significant. The planes that go over the pacific ocean might not be able to at lower altitudes. I guess the part about damage makes sense too if you are running it under higher density over extended and regular periods of time.
You actually lose quite a bit of speed too.
There's an advanced engine concept called RamJet which allows an airplane to go hypersonic speeds but you need to launch it from a 747 because the engine doesn't receive enough air to operate until certain velocity. Once it does though, ZOOM!