Struggling with addiction

Ms_ladyblue

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Addictions have an underlying nutritional component. We are talking about chemical substances, right? Food is chemicals. Drugs and alcohol are chems. If you really want to take the bull by the horns and gain mastery over yourself I suggest starting off with intermittent fasting and juicing. Going on a raw food diet can change the body chemistry very quickly. Also, the most powerful healing comes with juice fasting. Two weeks of just juice and throw in some field-grown frozen wheatgrass and you can feel like a new person, and in some respects, you will be.

I have heard this before from a couple of reliable sources but didn’t know that it worked with addictions. I have a juicer but it’s hard to get raw food…hard even to find raw milk in my area. And where do you find field-grown frozen wheatgrass?
Any suggestions would be helpful and appreciated.
 

יהוה_saves

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I have heard this before from a couple of reliable sources but didn’t know that it worked with addictions. I have a juicer but it’s hard to get raw food…hard even to find raw milk in my area. And where do you find field-grown frozen wheatgrass?
Any suggestions would be helpful and appreciated.
@Jgremillion83 juicing dandelion greens and the yellow flower part yields shikimic acid which helps cleanse the liver and kidneys, also helps remove toxins from blood.
 

Jahrule

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I used to do wheat grass too. It's a whole lot cheaper to have a mini garden like surfergirl suggested. Otherwise it's just not very cost effective when broccoli matches it point for point. But it is very interesting that there are technically real life versions of potions from movies and video games. If we just ate the right things, it would probably change everything about how our body functions right down to the cellular level.

Video related.

 

Nomex

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Anybody else ever struggled with addiction? How did you address it? I keep failing and it's really depressing.
Here's my take on things. So when we look at Bible characters, it is true these are true accounts because the Bible records there imperfections. But think about it, these people still have their names forever recorded in the Bible, God's inspired word. Of course they were imperfect, and of course if it is God's word he would record that. But these people ARE the most exemplary people of all of mankind, other wise they would not be in the Bible.

So Jehovah used the most exemplary people to record the Bible even though they had serious flaws. Those are the people we aspire to be. Well I have news for you, that's not us. We have more serious flaws, most of us any way, than they do. You think Jehovah would chose you to write an inspired Bible book? This is not to say, we should not strive to be better, but rather to say, even the best examples in the Bible, that we aspire to be are not even close to perfect. So the question is, how many Jews had God's approval? How many of the common Jew did God accept, and how many did he decide to execute for all eternity?

Rather than focus on how we are not pleasing Jehovah, focus on what Jehovah see's in us, because he see's what we can be when we are perfect, we cannot earn that gift of life. All we can do is make Jehovah see something in us that makes him want to give us a chance! Regardless of what we do now, we are going to fail! So it's not about our failure, its about us trying. And what is in our hearts....Jehovah knows what tortures us on the inside. What tortures us is Satanic imperfection. What makes us different from Satan worshipers, we don't embrace our imperfections.

Yes an over simplification, but a needed one all the same...IMO.

Are you suffering from an addiction because of a choice or because of an addiction due to imperfections. Well, would you have an addiction if you were perfect? Maybe we do not deserve kindness, but do we deserve death? God gave his only begotten son, for undeserved kindness, but why did he give his son if we did not deserve kindness???

Obviously there is his Godship involved in all this, which is where redeeming Adam offspring comes into this equation. But I want to get back to the addiction thing.

Think about how simple a choice it should have been for Eve. She made the wrong choice, but why? She was perfect, so you and I have NO IDEA! None what so ever, and so much so, it condemned all of her children to imperfection. It was NOT simply because she ate of that tree and what Satan used to entice her, appealed to her. Her comprehension was beyond anything we understand. It was because of what she became inside because of here perfection and that choice she made.

Any way, the point is, do your best, think positive about whatever you do, or are doing, and do not expect too much from yourself! If we did as good as perfection as Adam and Eve did, we've failed. They chose to rebel, and that is the whole point.
 
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SusanB

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Here's my take on things. So when we look at Bible characters, it is true these are true accounts because the Bible records there imperfections. But think about it, these people still have their names forever recorded in the Bible, God's inspired word. Of course they were imperfect, and of course if it is God's word he would record that. But these people ARE the most exemplary people of all of mankind, other wise they would not be in the Bible.

So Jehovah used the most exemplary people to record the Bible even though they had serious flaws. Those are the people we aspire to be. Well I have news for you, that's not us. We have more serious flaws, most of us any way, than they do. You think Jehovah would chose you to write an inspired Bible book? This is not to say, we should not strive to be better, but rather to say, even the best examples in the Bible, that we aspire to be are not even close to perfect. So the question is, how many Jews had God's approval? How many of the common Jew did God accept, and how many did he decide to execute for all eternity?

Rather than focus on how we are not pleasing Jehovah, focus on what Jehovah see's in us, because he see's what we can be when we are perfect, we cannot earn that gift of life. All we can do is make Jehovah see something in us that makes him want to give us a chance! Regardless of what we do now, we are going to fail! So it's not about our failure, its about us trying. And what is in our hearts....Jehovah knows what tortures us on the inside. What tortures us is Satanic imperfection. What makes us different from Satan worshipers, we don't embrace our imperfections.

Yes an over simplification, but a needed one all the same...IMO.

Are you suffering from an addiction because of a choice or because of an addiction due to imperfections. Well, would you have an addiction if you were perfect? Maybe we do not deserve kindness, but do we deserve death? God gave his only begotten son, for undeserved kindness, but why did he give his son if we did not deserve kindness???

Obviously there is his Godship involved in all this, which is where redeeming Adam offspring comes into this equation. But I want to get back to the addiction thing.

Think about how simple a choice it should have been for Eve. She made the wrong choice, but why? She was perfect, so you and I have NO IDEA! None what so ever, and so much so, it condemned all of her children to imperfection. It was NOT simply because she ate of that tree and what Satan used to entice her, appealed to her. Her comprehension was beyond anything we understand. It was because of what she became inside because of here perfection and that choice she made.

Any way, the point is, do your best, think positive about whatever you do, or are doing, and do expect too much from yourself! If we did as good as perfection as Adam and Eve did, we've failed. They chose to rebel, and that is the whole point.
I love the different viewpoint. Awesome things to consider.
 

Paz

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Definitely. I try to walk every day, sometimes 5-6 miles. But it is a challenge in the winter.
Walking a great idea my wife is much fitter than I she not a jw she does only drinks bottle water so avoids chlorinated water. My only concerns is the plastic bottles. I boil tape water then drink it cold. Any advice.
 

Watchman

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you can just grow your own in little trays
buy the wheat berries from a health food store or order on line from vitacost
here's a pic of the trays:
There is a problem with tray-grown wheatgrass. It all has an invisible mold on it. And if you are sensitive to mold it can really make you sick. And the nasty taste of wheatgrass is the mold, not the wheatgrass. I used to buy shots of it and it always made me feel sick, which I was told was a cleansing reaction. That is simply not true. It is a reaction to ingesting mold. If you are going to plant wheatgrass just scratch up some ground, add a little peat moss and throw the wheatberries down and cover them up with the peat and just add water. Let the sun do the rest. I do that in the summer and get good results. In the winter I buy field-grown wheatgrass online and it never makes me feel queasy. Dynamic Greens

By the way, you cannot juice wheatgrass with most high-speed centrifugal juicers. Slow juicers are the best because the juice doesn't get oxidized by the intense heat created by friction, and you can juice grass with a slow juicer. I use an Omega, which I have had for years. If you want the lowdown on the healing properties of wheatgrass and sprouts check out Ann Wigmore, She basically discovered wheatgrass.
 
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Jahrule

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There is a problem with tray-grown wheatgrass. It all has an invisible mold on it. And if you are sensitive to mold it can really make you sick. I used to buy shots of it and it always made me feel sick, which I was told was a cleansing reaction. That is simply not true. It is a reaction to ingesting mold. If you are going to plant wheatgrass just scratch up some ground, add a little peat moss and throw the wheatberries down and cover them up with the peat and just add water. I do that in the summer and get good results. In the winter I buy field-grown wheatgrass online and it never makes me feel queasy. Dynamic Greens

By the way, you cannot juice wheatgrass with most high-speed centrifugal juicers. Slow juicers are the best because the juice doesn't get oxidized by the intense heat created by friction, and you can juice grass with a slow juicer. I use an Omega, which I have had for years. If you want the lowdown on the healing properties of wheatgrass and sprouts check out Ann Wigmore, She basically discovered wheatgrass.
I have one of those bullet things. I know this one is different because it's more of a smoothie than juice, but I can't help but mention it. Frozen banana, peanut butter, protein powder, and milk. So good. Back when I was bodybuilding I had one every day. The only downside really is when you're doing strength training you have to watch your macros. Peanut butter has a lot of fat, which can be a good thing. Fat gets a bad rap, but you still need it. Even saturated fat to an extent is fine as long as its in moderation. But on a strict macro it's easy to exceed your daily intake with too much peanut butter. The powdered kind is a great substitute. All the protein without the fat. And now I think I'm sensitive to dairy so I have to use something other than cows milk. The frozen banana with the milk mixes together like a milkshake. It's delicious. It's filling. Try it if you like bananas. You don't even need to protein powder really. I only needed it for my training. As soon as I am off tobacco for good I'm getting back into health. Maybe even join a gym.
 

Watchman

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I have one of those bullet things. I know this one is different because it's more of a smoothie than juice, but I can't help but mention it. Frozen banana, peanut butter, protein powder, and milk.
Smoothies are great. I make them in the summer. Not really keen on drinking anything cold in the wintertime. Food is powerful. And if you want to prove that to yourself just go without eating. In just a few hours your body will protest. And that is why fasting is so powerful. Do you want to stop smoking? Stop eating. Just drink fresh juice every few hours. You will feel like you are dying at first. After three days though (the time Jesus spent in the tomb :unsure:) the hunger panic will subside. The body will realize that fasting is something good. After about a week you will start to have energy you thought you could only have eating plates full of food. After a couple of weeks on juice, you will feel a lightness in your soul. Breathing will be so wonderful you will gag at the thought of inhaling smoke into your lungs. I am going to attach a PDF I bought a few years ago. I have corresponded with the author a bit. I don't think he will mind. He speaks of a religious experience from the Pentecostal perspective, but he can be forgiven for that. Here is an excerpt from page 7

fasting.pdf
Fasting To End Addiction

When a baby is born, the homeostatic mechanisms of the body are in a balance. Add nicotine, alcohol, caffeine or any drug and the homeostatic mechanisms become rebalanced due to the alteration of the addictive substance. Without that substance, the body becomes imbalanced and there are cravings, which is the body’s attempt to rebalance. Addiction is simply an imbalance in homeostasis. Withdrawal occurs when the body is forced to readjust homeostatic balance in the absence of the dependant substance.

Years of poor eating combined with addictions present a tremendous challenge to the body for readjustment. When the user quits the poor eating habits or addictions, the cravings can last for months. Fasting speeds homeostatic rebalance reducing withdrawal time and the intensity of cravings. During fasting, the body becomes fully devoted to cleansing and rebalancing. I have seen men come off heavy drug usage and be normal in 40 days of juice fasting. From cookie addiction to coffee, juice fasting is the quickest way to get free. When the body is cleansed, there is no craving.
 

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SusanB

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I have one of those bullet things. I know this one is different because it's more of a smoothie than juice, but I can't help but mention it. Frozen banana, peanut butter, protein powder, and milk. So good. Back when I was bodybuilding I had one every day. The only downside really is when you're doing strength training you have to watch your macros. Peanut butter has a lot of fat, which can be a good thing. Fat gets a bad rap, but you still need it. Even saturated fat to an extent is fine as long as its in moderation. But on a strict macro it's easy to exceed your daily intake with too much peanut butter. The powdered kind is a great substitute. All the protein without the fat. And now I think I'm sensitive to dairy so I have to use something other than cows milk. The frozen banana with the milk mixes together like a milkshake. It's delicious. It's filling. Try it if you like bananas. You don't even need to protein powder really. I only needed it for my training. As soon as I am off tobacco for good I'm getting back into health. Maybe even join a gym.
Have you ever tasted the Thai or Vietnamese bananas? In Hawaii the Apple Banana was very popular as a local backyard banana but a disease spread to them and so they don’t grow as plentiful as they used to. But the Thai and Vietnamese bananas are immune to the “bunchy top” disease of the Apple banana. Anyway, we have 4 types of fruit in our yard. Vietnamese bananas, key lime, avocado and some pitaya. The local bananas in Hawaii are incredibly sweet and almost like a different fruit than store bought bananas. I use the local bananas when I have them in my smoothies. But if you ever get a chance to taste the Vietnamese bananas or Thai bananas they are wonderful but they will spoil you away from the common grocery store banana.

I also like that you mentioned the peanut butter powder. I’ve stocked up on that for the famine that’s coming because it stores well.
 

mreader

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Addictions have an underlying nutritional component. We are talking about chemical substances, right? Food is chemicals. Drugs and alcohol are chems. If you really want to take the bull by the horns and gain mastery over yourself I suggest starting off with intermittent fasting and juicing. Going on a raw food diet can change the body chemistry very quickly. Also, the most powerful healing comes with juice fasting. Two weeks of just juice and throw in some field-grown frozen wheatgrass and you can feel like a new person, and in some respects, you will be.


I only wish I could do that! ( I do good to walk one block. LOL )
- but at least I can sit outside :)
in Alaska is still full winter and pretty heavy snowing. Last year the first spring you could see visibly was in end of April, but on the loco mountains the snow was still heavy which kept the town cool to cold.. This year I think a winter is going to be a little bet longer... so, for now I just try to make a few circles around my apartment. And exercising a slow zumba for my body.
 

Watchman

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Walking a great idea my wife is much fitter than I she not a jw she does only drinks bottle water so avoids chlorinated water. My only concerns is the plastic bottles. I boil tape water then drink it cold. Any advice.
Boiling water doesn't get rid of the chems. An inline filter is best or a reverse osmosis system. If you cannot afford that the Breta filters and pretty inexpensive.
 

Watchman

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in Alaska is still full winter and pretty heavy snowing. Last year the first spring you could see visibly was in end of April, but on the loco mountains the snow was still heavy which kept the town cool to cold.. This year I think a winter is going to be a little bet longer... so, for now I just try to make a few circles around my apartment. And exercising a slow zumba for my body.
My sister put me onto this Canadian gal who has a pretty cool stretching program for older people. It looks easy but it really works, especially for people with a lot of injuries and broken bones. She has videos on YouTube

Here is her website Aging Backwards
 

יהוה_saves

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Slow juicers are the best
i love those slow juicers. You can get the best tomato juice results from a slow juicer as it doesn’t produce that scummy dross. I used one on a job i had once. They can be expensive, but it was years ago that i priced one. i think it was around $400.
 

יהוה_saves

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Boiling water doesn't get rid of the chems. An inline filter is best or a reverse osmosis system. If you cannot afford that the Breta filters and pretty inexpensive.
what about setting tap water out in the open air for ~ 24 hours? i read that much of the chlorine will evaporate out- (not sure that’s the right term). Someone i know does that with tap water for her house plants.
 

Watchman

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what about setting tap water out in the open air for ~ 24 hours? i read that much of the chlorine will evaporate out- (not sure that’s the right term). Someone i know does that with tap water for her house plants.
There is more junk in tap water than chlorine. Drugs that get pissed into the sewer system are finding their way into treated tap water. All kinds of drugs. Google it.
 

Ana

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Las adicciones tienen un componente nutricional subyacente. Estamos hablando de sustancias químicas, ¿verdad? Los alimentos son quimicos. Las drogas y el alcohol son sustancias químicas. Si realmente quiere tomar el toro por los cuernos y dominarse a sí mismo, le sugiero que comience con ayunos y jugos intermitentes. Seguir una dieta de alimentos crudos puede cambiar la química del cuerpo muy rápidamente. Además, la curación más poderosa viene con el ayuno de jugos. Dos semanas de solo jugo y un poco de pasto de trigo congelado cultivado en el campo y puede sentirse como una persona nueva, y en algunos aspectos, lo será.
Siempre podemos fijarnos en el ejemplo de Nabucodonosor.🌱🐂



 
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