Sunday, Jan 28th - Have you not read?

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Have you not read?—Matt. 12:3.

Jesus asked the question “Have you not read?” to reveal that the Pharisees had a wrong view of the Scriptures. (Matt. 12:1-7) On that occasion, the Pharisees claimed that Jesus’ disciples had violated the Sabbath. In reply, Jesus cited two Scriptural examples and quoted a verse from Hosea to show that the Pharisees had missed the point of the Sabbath law and had failed to show mercy. Why were these men not molded by their reading of God’s Word? Because they read it with a critical and proud spirit. Their attitude kept them from getting the sense of what they read. (Matt. 23:23; John 5:39, 40) Note also Matthew 19:4-6, where Jesus asked the Pharisees this same question: “Have you not read?” Although they had read the creation account, they overlooked what it taught about God’s view of marriage. We learn from Jesus’ words that we need to read the Bible with the right attitude. Unlike the Pharisees, we must be sincere and teachable. w23.02 12 ¶12-13
Dear Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. I have a question for you: Have you not read the prophecy of Isaiah? The answer is, of course, no; at least not with understanding. I have read your commentary on Isaiah, both volumes, and it is clear to me that the words of the prophet in the 29th chapter are directed to you. "Every vision becomes for you like the words of a sealed book. When they give it to someone who can read, saying: “Read this out loud, please,” he will say: “I cannot, for it is sealed up.” And when they give the book to someone who cannot read, saying: “Read this, please,” he will say: “I cannot read at all.”

Have you not read what Jehovah has said: “This people approach me with their mouth and they honor me with their lips, but their heart is far removed from me; and their fear of me is based on commands of men that they have been taught. Therefore, I am the One who will again do wonderful things with this people, with wonder upon wonder; and the wisdom of their wise men will perish, and the understanding of their discreet men will be hidden.” (29:13,14)

"This people approach me with their mouth." Who might "this people" be? Is it not Jehovah's Witnesses who publicly praise the name of Jehovah and who boast of being pure worshippers? And if God is determined to "do wonderful things with this people," isn't that a good thing? Or ought we assume that Jehovah is going to work "wonder upon wonder" with people who do not know God at all? And since the Governing Body continually boasts of being the faithful and discreet slave, is it not the wisdom of the discreet men that will perish when the day of Jehovah begins in a way you have not understood?

Have you not read: "only terror will make them understand what was heard"? (28:19b) If the understanding of the discreet slave is hidden and only terror will make them understand, isn't that a good thing too? You do want to understand, do you not? I have tried to impart some understanding but to no avail.

JW dot org recently posed two questions: Is World War Inevitable?—⁠What Does the Bible Say? Your answer is quite clever: "The Bible did not foretell any specific war that we are seeing today." No mention is made of WWI being the specific war the Bible mentions, although it is implied. And yet not one person alive today has personally witnessed that First World War.

Indeed, have you not read what Jesus said: "When you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors"? Do you claim to have seen "all these things"? You have not seen anything. Have you not read: This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Woe to the stupid prophets, who follow their own spirit, when they have seen nothing!" - Ezekiel 13:3

As Jehovah's watchman, it is my duty to inform you that world war is inevitable. Have you not read? “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘I will cause powerful windstorms to burst forth in my wrath, and a torrential downpour in my anger, and hailstones in destructive fury. I will tear down the wall that you plastered with whitewash and bring it down to the earth, and its foundation will be exposed. When the city falls, you will perish within her; and you will have to know that I am Jehovah.'" - Ez 13:13,14

 

J&P

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"Because they read it with a critical and proud spirit. Their attitude kept them from getting the sense of what they read."
Ironic how this attitude was reflected at the 2023 Annual Meeting. We don't apologize! Never cease to be amazed at how they write this stuff and fail to make any self-application.:unsure:
 

evw

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Dear Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. I have a question for you: Have you not read the prophecy of Isaiah? The answer is, of course, no; at least not with understanding. I have read your commentary on Isaiah, both volumes, and it is clear to me that the words of the prophet in the 29th chapter are directed to you. "Every vision becomes for you like the words of a sealed book. When they give it to someone who can read, saying: “Read this out loud, please,” he will say: “I cannot, for it is sealed up.” And when they give the book to someone who cannot read, saying: “Read this, please,” he will say: “I cannot read at all.”

Have you not read what Jehovah has said: “This people approach me with their mouth and they honor me with their lips, but their heart is far removed from me; and their fear of me is based on commands of men that they have been taught. Therefore, I am the One who will again do wonderful things with this people, with wonder upon wonder; and the wisdom of their wise men will perish, and the understanding of their discreet men will be hidden.” (29:13,14)

"This people approach me with their mouth." Who might "this people" be? Is it not Jehovah's Witnesses who publicly praise the name of Jehovah and who boast of being pure worshippers? And if God is determined to "do wonderful things with this people," isn't that a good thing? Or ought we assume that Jehovah is going to work "wonder upon wonder" with people who do not know God at all? And since the Governing Body continually boasts of being the faithful and discreet slave, is it not the wisdom of the discreet men that will perish when the day of Jehovah begins in a way you have not understood?

Have you not read: "only terror will make them understand what was heard"? (28:19b) If the understanding of the discreet slave is hidden and only terror will make them understand, isn't that a good thing too? You do want to understand, do you not? I have tried to impart some understanding but to no avail.

JW dot org recently posed two questions: Is World War Inevitable?—⁠What Does the Bible Say? Your answer is quite clever: "The Bible did not foretell any specific war that we are seeing today." No mention is made of WWI being the specific war the Bible mentions, although it is implied. And yet not one person alive today has personally witnessed that First World War.

Indeed, have you not read what Jesus said: "When you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors"? Do you claim to have seen "all these things"? You have not seen anything. Have you not read: This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Woe to the stupid prophets, who follow their own spirit, when they have seen nothing!" - Ezekiel 13:3

As Jehovah's watchman, it is my duty to inform you that world war is inevitable. Have you not read? “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘I will cause powerful windstorms to burst forth in my wrath, and a torrential downpour in my anger, and hailstones in destructive fury. I will tear down the wall that you plastered with whitewash and bring it down to the earth, and its foundation will be exposed. When the city falls, you will perish within her; and you will have to know that I am Jehovah.'" - Ez 13:13,14

Can I conclude that you were in a good mood today, Robert, thank you for this clear explanation to the GB. Who knows, maybe this approach will work, but in the meantime, don't hold your breath :rolleyes:
 

J&P

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"The wisdom of their wise men will perish" (2nd Supplemental Article Above)

As we read this article, we noticed, at the end of the article, there was a "sliding" Daily text array from which to choose. We haven't seen this option before but we really like that the articles are at our fingertips and are on display to make it easier to make a selection. Thanks.
 
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LifeLearning

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Dear Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. I have a question for you: Have you not read the prophecy of Isaiah? The answer is, of course, no; at least not with understanding. I have read your commentary on Isaiah, both volumes, and it is clear to me that the words of the prophet in the 29th chapter are directed to you. "Every vision becomes for you like the words of a sealed book. When they give it to someone who can read, saying: “Read this out loud, please,” he will say: “I cannot, for it is sealed up.” And when they give the book to someone who cannot read, saying: “Read this, please,” he will say: “I cannot read at all.”

Have you not read what Jehovah has said: “This people approach me with their mouth and they honor me with their lips, but their heart is far removed from me; and their fear of me is based on commands of men that they have been taught. Therefore, I am the One who will again do wonderful things with this people, with wonder upon wonder; and the wisdom of their wise men will perish, and the understanding of their discreet men will be hidden.” (29:13,14)

"This people approach me with their mouth." Who might "this people" be? Is it not Jehovah's Witnesses who publicly praise the name of Jehovah and who boast of being pure worshippers? And if God is determined to "do wonderful things with this people," isn't that a good thing? Or ought we assume that Jehovah is going to work "wonder upon wonder" with people who do not know God at all? And since the Governing Body continually boasts of being the faithful and discreet slave, is it not the wisdom of the discreet men that will perish when the day of Jehovah begins in a way you have not understood?

Have you not read: "only terror will make them understand what was heard"? (28:19b) If the understanding of the discreet slave is hidden and only terror will make them understand, isn't that a good thing too? You do want to understand, do you not? I have tried to impart some understanding but to no avail.

JW dot org recently posed two questions: Is World War Inevitable?—⁠What Does the Bible Say? Your answer is quite clever: "The Bible did not foretell any specific war that we are seeing today." No mention is made of WWI being the specific war the Bible mentions, although it is implied. And yet not one person alive today has personally witnessed that First World War.

Indeed, have you not read what Jesus said: "When you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors"? Do you claim to have seen "all these things"? You have not seen anything. Have you not read: This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Woe to the stupid prophets, who follow their own spirit, when they have seen nothing!" - Ezekiel 13:3

As Jehovah's watchman, it is my duty to inform you that world war is inevitable. Have you not read? “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘I will cause powerful windstorms to burst forth in my wrath, and a torrential downpour in my anger, and hailstones in destructive fury. I will tear down the wall that you plastered with whitewash and bring it down to the earth, and its foundation will be exposed. When the city falls, you will perish within her; and you will have to know that I am Jehovah.'" - Ez 13:13,14

Absolutely Powerful. Take heed prophets and teachers.
 

Paul H

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Dutch translation: "Have you not read?"

"Every vision becomes for you like the words of a sealed book. When they give it to someone who can read, saying: “Read this out loud, please,” he will say: “I cannot, for it is sealed up.” And when they give the book to someone who cannot read, saying: “Read this, please,” he will say: “I cannot read at all.”
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"Have you not read: "only terror will make them understand what was heard"? (28:19b) If the understanding of the discreet slave is hidden and only terror will make them understand, isn't that a good thing too?"
terror fear and anxiety understand what was heard alleen door angst begrijpen wat ze hebben g...jpeg

“Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘I will cause powerful windstorms to burst forth in my wrath, and a torrential downpour in my anger, and hailstones in destructive fury. I will tear down the wall that you plastered with whitewash and bring it down to the earth, and its foundation will be exposed. When the city falls, you will perish within her; and you will have to know that I am Jehovah.'" - Ez 13:13,14
cracked plastered wall will fall hailstorm anger terror fear stormwind muur pleisterwerk gips...jpeg
 

Frank D

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Indeed, have you not read what Jesus said: "When you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors"? Do you claim to have seen "all these things"?
What are 'all the things' that need to be seen?
Once they 'all have been seen', what will that mean in regard to Jesus' whereabouts?
 

Shiloh

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Dutch translation: "Have you not read?"

"Every vision becomes for you like the words of a sealed book. When they give it to someone who can read, saying: “Read this out loud, please,” he will say: “I cannot, for it is sealed up.” And when they give the book to someone who cannot read, saying: “Read this, please,” he will say: “I cannot read at all.”
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"Have you not read: "only terror will make them understand what was heard"? (28:19b) If the understanding of the discreet slave is hidden and only terror will make them understand, isn't that a good thing too?"
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“Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘I will cause powerful windstorms to burst forth in my wrath, and a torrential downpour in my anger, and hailstones in destructive fury. I will tear down the wall that you plastered with whitewash and bring it down to the earth, and its foundation will be exposed. When the city falls, you will perish within her; and you will have to know that I am Jehovah.'" - Ez 13:13,14
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Nice pics, can you show them wetting their pants in terror?
 

Frank D

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The sign Jesus spoke of in Matt 24

In V33 he says”Likewise also you, when you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors

Thank you for your reply, however I don't see an answer in it. You actually raised another question though.

What are 'all the things' that need to be seen?
Once they 'all have been seen', what will that mean in regard to Jesus' whereabouts?
What is the so-called 'sign'? (Matthew 24:30,31)
 
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Maybelle

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Thank you for your reply, however I don't see an answer in it. You actually raised another question though.

What are 'all the things' that need to be seen?
Once they 'all have been seen', what will that mean in regard to Jesus' whereabouts?
What is the so-called 'sign' and what does it mean?
Jesus disciples ask “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”

The sign is recorded in the Gospel’s being nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom etc Matt 24v14. This is a sign of Jesus presence in answer to the question.
You may find this helps

 

Frank D

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Thank you, but 'nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom etc' is not the 'sign', they are part of 'the things' that have to be seen. The 'sign' is not said to appear until after 'those things' that need to all be seen first. 'Those things' are not said to show that he is here but instead are said to show the NEARNESS of his presence/coming.

3 While he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”
4 In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you, 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 “Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, too, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 Many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. 13 But the one who has endured to the end will be saved. 14 And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
15 “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment), 16 then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains. 17 Let the man on the housetop not come down to take the goods out of his house, 18 and let the man in the field not return to pick up his outer garment. 19 Woe to the pregnant women and those nursing a baby in those days! 20 Keep praying that your flight may not occur in wintertime nor on the Sabbath day; 21 for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.
23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned you. 26 Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 28 Wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.
32 “Now learn this illustration from the fig tree: Just as soon as its young branch grows tender and sprouts its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 Likewise also you, when you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors.
 
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Frank D

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Jesus mentioned wars, earthquakes and food shortages not as something to look for as a sign, but to debunk the idea that these things are the sign. That's why he opened his reply with "Look out that nobody misleads you".
Yes, saying 'those things' make up a 'sign' that he is here is for the purpose of misleading. He said that 'those things' show the NEARNESS to his coming, yet the Watchtower uses 'those things' to mislead in saying that they show he is here but because he is invisible you have to look at 'those things' as a 'sign' that he is here. But again, only those that mislead twist the Scriptures to say that because 'those things' are clearly said to show his NEARNESS, not that he IS HERE.

In comparing 'those things' with 'spring/summer' he said when you see the bud/leaves put forth in spring you know summer is NEAR. Is summer here is spring? No! It comes after spring. Likewise, when we see 'THOSE THINGS' is Jesus here then? No! He comes after.

[29 “Immediately after the tribulation* of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity. 32 Now learn this illustration from the fig tree: Just as soon as its young branch grows tender and sprouts its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 Likewise also you, when you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors.]

[24 “But in those days, after that tribulation,* the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, 25 and the stars will be falling out of heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken. 26 And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then he will send out the angels and will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from earth’s extremity to heaven’s extremity. 28 Now learn this illustration from the fig tree: Just as soon as its young branch grows tender and sprouts its leaves, you know that summer is near. 29 Likewise also you, when you see these things happening, know that he is near at the doors.]

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(The Trib would be part of what make up 'these things'.)
 
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Maybelle

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Yes, saying 'those things' make up a 'sign' that he is here is for the purpose of misleading. He said that 'those things' show the NEARNESS to his coming, yet the Watchtower uses 'those things' to mislead in saying that they show he is here but because he is invisible you have to look at those things as a 'sign' that he is here. But again, only those that mislead twist the Scriptures to say that because 'those things' are clearly said to show his NEARNESS, not that he IS HERE.

In comparing 'those things' with 'spring/summer' he said when you see the bud/leaves put forth in spring you know summer is NEAR. Is summer here is spring? No! It comes after spring. Likewise, when we see 'THOSE THINGS' is Jesus here then? No! He comes after.

[29 “Immediately after the tribulation* of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity. 32 Now learn this illustration from the fig tree: Just as soon as its young branch grows tender and sprouts its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 Likewise also you, when you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors.]

[24 “But in those days, after that tribulation,* the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, 25 and the stars will be falling out of heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken. 26 And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then he will send out the angels and will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from earth’s extremity to heaven’s extremity. 28 Now learn this illustration from the fig tree: Just as soon as its young branch grows tender and sprouts its leaves, you know that summer is near. 29 Likewise also you, when you see these things happening, know that he is near at the doors.]

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(The Trib would be part of what make up 'these things'.)
Ok I understand what your saying now 🙂
 

alan ford

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Yes, saying 'those things' make up a 'sign' that he is here is for the purpose of misleading. He said that 'those things' show the NEARNESS to his coming, yet the Watchtower uses 'those things' to mislead in saying that they show he is here but because he is invisible you have to look at those things as a 'sign' that he is here. But again, only those that mislead twist the Scriptures to say that because 'those things' are clearly said to show his NEARNESS, not that he IS HERE.

In comparing 'those things' with 'spring/summer' he said when you see the bud/leaves put forth in spring you know summer is NEAR. Is summer here is spring? No! It comes after spring. Likewise, when we see 'THOSE THINGS' is Jesus here then? No! He comes after.

This is a summary that makes sense to me.

Jesus seems to be in effect saying:
‘Major upheavals are going to happen in the history of mankind – you’re going to hear of wars and rumors of wars – but don’t let them frighten you. These things will inevitably occur in the future but don’t mislead yourself into thinking they mean the end is here or near, BECAUSE nations WILL fight each other and there WILL be earthquakes in one place after another and there WILL be food shortages. [In other words, such is the inevitable future of this wicked world so don’t fall into the trap of attaching apocalyptic meaning to it.] But this is only the start of a tumultuous time for mankind.’

Luke 21:8
He said: “Look out that you are not misled, for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time is near.’ Do not go after them.
 

Frank D

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When is 'the end' referring to?

[6 You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet.]
[8 He will also make you firm to the end so that you may be open to no accusation in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.]
[13 But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.]
[10 If anyone is meant for captivity, he will go into captivity. If anyone will kill with the sword, he must be killed with the sword. This is where it calls for endurance and faith on the part of the holy ones.]
[12 Here is where it calls for endurance on the part of the holy ones, those who keep the commandments of God and hold fast to the faith of Jesus.”]
 
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Revvzone

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Dear Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. I have a question for you: Have you not read the prophecy of Isaiah? The answer is, of course, no; at least not with understanding. I have read your commentary on Isaiah, both volumes, and it is clear to me that the words of the prophet in the 29th chapter are directed to you. "Every vision becomes for you like the words of a sealed book. When they give it to someone who can read, saying: “Read this out loud, please,” he will say: “I cannot, for it is sealed up.” And when they give the book to someone who cannot read, saying: “Read this, please,” he will say: “I cannot read at all.”

Have you not read what Jehovah has said: “This people approach me with their mouth and they honor me with their lips, but their heart is far removed from me; and their fear of me is based on commands of men that they have been taught. Therefore, I am the One who will again do wonderful things with this people, with wonder upon wonder; and the wisdom of their wise men will perish, and the understanding of their discreet men will be hidden.” (29:13,14)

"This people approach me with their mouth." Who might "this people" be? Is it not Jehovah's Witnesses who publicly praise the name of Jehovah and who boast of being pure worshippers? And if God is determined to "do wonderful things with this people," isn't that a good thing? Or ought we assume that Jehovah is going to work "wonder upon wonder" with people who do not know God at all? And since the Governing Body continually boasts of being the faithful and discreet slave, is it not the wisdom of the discreet men that will perish when the day of Jehovah begins in a way you have not understood?

Have you not read: "only terror will make them understand what was heard"? (28:19b) If the understanding of the discreet slave is hidden and only terror will make them understand, isn't that a good thing too? You do want to understand, do you not? I have tried to impart some understanding but to no avail.

JW dot org recently posed two questions: Is World War Inevitable?—⁠What Does the Bible Say? Your answer is quite clever: "The Bible did not foretell any specific war that we are seeing today." No mention is made of WWI being the specific war the Bible mentions, although it is implied. And yet not one person alive today has personally witnessed that First World War.

Indeed, have you not read what Jesus said: "When you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors"? Do you claim to have seen "all these things"? You have not seen anything. Have you not read: This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Woe to the stupid prophets, who follow their own spirit, when they have seen nothing!" - Ezekiel 13:3

As Jehovah's watchman, it is my duty to inform you that world war is inevitable. Have you not read? “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘I will cause powerful windstorms to burst forth in my wrath, and a torrential downpour in my anger, and hailstones in destructive fury. I will tear down the wall that you plastered with whitewash and bring it down to the earth, and its foundation will be exposed. When the city falls, you will perish within her; and you will have to know that I am Jehovah.'" - Ez 13:13,14

Contrary to WT popular beliefs.. and your excellent explanation of what the leadership read but do not see or understand because, there's that unfortunate stupid prophet thing preventing them from even reading and understanding what you have presented in terms a 5 year old could understand... That said, I'm personally looking forward to them getting what they've been dishing out terrorizing the flock for over a 100+ years you know, with fear mongering, deciet thieving and mental abuse . because they've got it coming. Gonna be a "wonderful thing" when they get raped for everything they have and thrown out..
 
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MickHewitt

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Can I conclude that you were in a good mood today, Robert, thank you for this clear explanation to the GB. Who knows, maybe this approach will work, but in the meantime, don't hold your breath :rolleyes:
It's the Watchman's commission to a rebellious house whether they listen or not. Eze2:4- In order to complete the task Jehovah has given him as recorded in Zeek3:9 "I have made your forehead like a diamond harder than flint......for they are a rebellious house!"
 
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