Sunday Talk - The Visions of Daniel

JMJLG

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Yeah, I recently did hear the correct version of the William Wallace story. Did the true story just recently come out?

My daughter has piercing blue eyes and her nose is barely hooked, as you say. Her chin is the way you describe yours as well. My husband had the red curly hair and thin lips too and our son does too.
Although my daughter is one of those you call a rare beauty…she had so many brothers and non witness guys that really liked her.

In her teens both her and I started listening to Irish music. Like some of the folk songs. And Enya, Loreena McKennitt etc.
Celtic Woman was another favorite. We all went to one of their concerts years ago.

But yes I realize that the Irish are very religious and pagan. But then again what culture isn’t?

Btw what did the English do to the Irish that made the effects of the potato famine last for seven years?
Enya is a Brennan . She used to be part of Clannad . Clan , or Taeghlach , pronounced Cheelach , both mean family . I used to work with their cousin . They are from Donegal , part of the old north of Ireland ,when it was 9 counties but are part of the republic now that the north has 6 counties . To understand what was done to the Irish , you also have to include the various highland clearances , and the crofters being driven off their lands in Scotland . This came soon after the last of the Jacobite risings , which was fought at Culludon , and saw the end of Clan life , shortly after seeing the massacre of many highlanders at Glen Coe by the Campbell's .They then came to the north of Ireland and massacred many Irish men women and children . Myself , and many others , both Scottish and Irish will not eat Campbell`s soup even to this day .Then in 1845 - 1849 , there was the famine , also called the hunger .It started by the potato blight , but it was the English withholding aid , and also bringing in ,"The poor tax " where land owners had to pay a tax for all renting . The Irish were banned from owning their own land , and as a result of this , they were driven off . With the Scottish , Irish , and the Cornish , the fair trade agreement meant that if a better price could be had by selling grain overseas , the people of the country where the grain was grown went without . The Catholics were told to give up their faith for broth . Those that did have always been know as Soupers . A shortened version of it all , but covers a lot . In the north , families were driven out and plantaion workers from Scotland who were Protestants replaced Catholics . The history of Scotland , Ireland and Cornwall is very similar . The modern word is ethnic cleansing .
 

MickHewitt

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Enya is a Brennan . She used to be part of Clannad . Clan , or Taeghlach , pronounced Cheelach , both mean family . I used to work with their cousin . They are from Donegal , part of the old north of Ireland ,when it was 9 counties but are part of the republic now that the north has 6 counties . To understand what was done to the Irish , you also have to include the various highland clearances , and the crofters being driven off their lands in Scotland . This came soon after the last of the Jacobite risings , which was fought at Culludon , and saw the end of Clan life , shortly after seeing the massacre of many highlanders at Glen Coe by the Campbell's .They then came to the north of Ireland and massacred many Irish men women and children . Myself , and many others , both Scottish and Irish will not eat Campbell`s soup even to this day .Then in 1845 - 1849 , there was the famine , also called the hunger .It started by the potato blight , but it was the English withholding aid , and also bringing in ,"The poor tax " where land owners had to pay a tax for all renting . The Irish were banned from owning their own land , and as a result of this , they were driven off . With the Scottish , Irish , and the Cornish , the fair trade agreement meant that if a better price could be had by selling grain overseas , the people of the country where the grain was grown went without . The Catholics were told to give up their faith for broth . Those that did have always been know as Soupers . A shortened version of it all , but covers a lot . In the north , families were driven out and plantaion workers from Scotland who were Protestants replaced Catholics . The history of Scotland , Ireland and Cornwall is very similar . The modern word is ethnic cleansing .
Interesting that our Scottish and Irish forefathers were first before Africans to be transported to the Sugar plantations in West Indies!
 

JMJLG

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I have heard that about the Gaels‘ descendants being those who were from bible times ie letter to the Galatians. I find that very interesting.
The Irish , Scottish and the Manx people (From the Isle of Mann) , are all Gauls . From childhood , we were told tales of the Irish Giants . Finn McColl was supposed to of scooped up a lot of land and threw it . Where he scooped up , is the largest loch in Ireland , Loch Neagh , and where he threw it is called , The Isle of Mann . It is a legend , but the two are similar in size . How did they know they were similar all those centuries ago though ?
 

MickHewitt

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The potato blight lasted for two years , but due to what the English did , the effects lasted for over seven years . I had strawberry blond hair , and curls , along with fair skin and very piercing blue eyes . Also a hooked nose , very thin lips and a chin that sticks forward . I used to say that when they talk about a rare Irish or Scottish beauty , they mean that you do not come across many . William Wallace was not truly well known until the film Braveheart . Braveheart was actually Robert the Bruce and not Wallace . I grew up with the stories of Rob Roy McGregor . I always think that the stories were to put a sense of what is right and wrong as well as to put a sense of national pride . I also grew up singing all of the old IRA songs from the 1916 rising , and later the more recent ones . I have a Triad tattoo done by Celtic knots , with a knotted circle outside of it , along with the hounds of Chuchulainn and four Chulainn`s (Hounds) , along with Republican speeches and slogans that cover my back . I have had a very colourful past . The Irish are very religious , but also very pagan .
They labled it the Potatoe blight yet Irish grew more than spuds; Their menu was Goats, cows, chickens etc yet the British demanded their produce at point of the gun! All this is now slowly coming out...
 

JMJLG

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The Irish , Scottish and the Manx people (From the Isle of Mann) , are all Gauls . From childhood , we were told tales of the Irish Giants . Finn McColl was supposed to of scooped up a lot of land and threw it . Where he scooped up , is the largest loch in Ireland , Loch Neagh , and where he threw it is called , The Isle of Mann . It is a legend , but the two are similar in size . How did they know they were similar all those centuries ago though ?
Cromwell also sold us as slaves , and transported us to the west Indies . After the king of England returned to the throne , he asked the pope if he could sell us as slaves , and the pope said it was ok . History is a great eye opener .
 

Ms_ladyblue

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Enya is a Brennan . She used to be part of Clannad . Clan , or Taeghlach , pronounced Cheelach , both mean family . I used to work with their cousin . They are from Donegal , part of the old north of Ireland ,when it was 9 counties but are part of the republic now that the north has 6 counties . To understand what was done to the Irish , you also have to include the various highland clearances , and the crofters being driven off their lands in Scotland . This came soon after the last of the Jacobite risings , which was fought at Culludon , and saw the end of Clan life , shortly after seeing the massacre of many highlanders at Glen Coe by the Campbell's .They then came to the north of Ireland and massacred many Irish men women and children . Myself , and many others , both Scottish and Irish will not eat Campbell`s soup even to this day .Then in 1845 - 1849 , there was the famine , also called the hunger .It started by the potato blight , but it was the English withholding aid , and also bringing in ,"The poor tax " where land owners had to pay a tax for all renting . The Irish were banned from owning their own land , and as a result of this , they were driven off . With the Scottish , Irish , and the Cornish , the fair trade agreement meant that if a better price could be had by selling grain overseas , the people of the country where the grain was grown went without . The Catholics were told to give up their faith for broth . Those that did have always been know as Soupers . A shortened version of it all , but covers a lot . In the north , families were driven out and plantaion workers from Scotland who were Protestants replaced Catholics . The history of Scotland , Ireland and Cornwall is very similar . The modern word is ethnic cleansing .
Interesting but all too horrible at the same time. Even when many of the Irish and other different ethnic groups first came here to America, and for years after they were mistreated and persecuted.
You could say that the devil sure does his job creating divisiveness, inspiring tyrants at his behest. How demonic!
 
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BARNABY THE DOG.

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A historical fact , when the English made the speaking of the Irish ( Gaeilge) language illegal . The English that was introduced was very limited in words . This was to make the English sound superior when they spoke or wrote . It is very nice to read , and I enjoy reading comments that have words that are used that will not be normally used , but surely , if these words are used , then many do not get the full message . I believe that in a lot of cases , the wording should be simple , so everyone can understand it .
I didn’t know Irish was made illegal! I think the same thing is happening to English too. Churchill had a vocabulary of approx 62,000 words , and the average amount of words in the language is approx 200,000. The average red-top newspaper reader is estimated between 10,000/15,000. The problem with using the more basic vocabulary is that it diminishes description and understanding. But whatever one does, they are accused of speaking down or up to whomever. The onus of education is upon the listener and essentially they are responsible for their own understanding. NOT that I am saying that from an assumed status - but that statement in itself is ambiguous! (Endless fun with teasing!). Nothing but problems in the english language - we will just have to wait for the pure language of Jehovah, that no dictionary can contain. Then there will be no excuse one way or the other!
 

alan ford

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I thought 'ruddy' refers to skin color.
Same word was used to describe Esau in Genesis 25:25

Strong's Concordance
admoni: red, ruddy
Original Word: אַדְמֹנִי
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: admoni
Phonetic Spelling: (ad-mo-nee')
Definition: red, ruddy

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from the same as adom
Definition
red, ruddy
NASB Translation
red (1), ruddy (2).
 

JMJLG

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I didn’t know Irish was made illegal! I think the same thing is happening to English too. Churchill had a vocabulary of approx 62,000 words , and the average amount of words in the language is approx 200,000. The average red-top newspaper reader is estimated between 10,000/15,000. The problem with using the more basic vocabulary is that it diminishes description and understanding. But whatever one does, they are accused of speaking down or up to whomever. The onus of education is upon the listener and essentially they are responsible for their own understanding. NOT that I am saying that from an assumed status - but that statement in itself is ambiguous! (Endless fun with teasing!). Nothing but problems in the english language - we will just have to wait for the pure language of Jehovah, that no dictionary can contain. Then there will be no excuse one way or the other!
The use of the Irish language , and other things banned was introduced under the statute of Kilkenny in 1367 . Things banned was :-
  • Marry an Irish person
  • Adopt an Irish child
  • Use an Irish name
  • Wear Irish clothes
  • Speak the Irish language
  • Play Irish music
  • Listen to Irish story-tellers
  • Play Irish games
  • Let an Irish person join an English religious house
  • Appoint any Irish clergyman to any church in the English settlement
  • Ride a horse in Irish style, that is, without a saddle.
  • Because of the wars with Robert the Bruce , and the black death , it could not be fully constituted . It is still to this day illegal to use the Irish language in a court of law in the north of Ireland . It has had the opposite effect . Many will use it so others cannot understand what is being talked about , but for me , it is because it is my language , and the language of my forefathers .
 

Ms_ladyblue

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King David in the Bible? If so, what scripture is that?
Now I may be mistaken and I’m sorry for that. I didn’t cite a scripture. But I think it’s assumed by many that he had red hair because of this explanation here I found. ⬇️


“When the Phi·lisʹtine looked and saw David, he sneered at him in contempt because he was just a ruddy and handsome boy.” —1 Samuel 17:42

Ruddy, in this instance, refers to David's complexion. The word means having a healthy reddish colour usually from leading an outdoor life.

David was a shepherd and so his complexion had a healthy, weather-beaten look. Some Bible translations say his skin was dark.

Ruddy does not necessarily mean that David had red hair, or that he was prone to blushing.

https://www.quotescosmos.com/bible/bible-concordance/H132.html

Strong's Concordance, Hebrew Dictionary: Ruddy, reddish (of the hair or the complexion)

Hebrew: אַדְמֹנִי, ʾadmōnî (H132)

1 Samuel 17:42: “And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy and of a fair countenance.”
 
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