Tales From the Ministry

I have obtained the phone number of my old coordinator who said I was fulfilling the apostasy in 2Thess2. I have messaged him with definition of Apostasy and asked him to equate that with the recent blood issue. I have invited him to my home to discuss. If he turns that down then I have two other elders numbers.
 
The blood issue has hit them even though they don't admit it: Three carts today the one didn't show. The one brother said if I didn't go away he would! I said where are you going to go? The other brother stepped in and said he had refused a blood infusion some years back. So I asked him who told him to do that? 'Jehovah did' he replied. So I replied 'has Jah changed his mind now?' A sister chimed in and said it was now our personal decision. I showed them the definition of Apostasy. Sister said 'I will follow the direction of the faithful slave to the end! Another cart where I was doing well even the sister was nodding until this brother jumps in and said 'Do you think you know more than the discreet slave? Well we know you don't so off you go and don't bother coming back! This was a shame because what could the agreeing sister do under the circumstances? I told them if they knew what I did they would be doing the same: I prayed for them all on the bus home
 
MickHewitt said:
Bethel's philosophy is straight from Mark Twain
“Hain’t we got all the fools in town on our side? And ain’t that a big enough majority in any town?”
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No matter how I angled my approach today soon as I mentioned the gb they were no longer witnesses of Jehovah but resembled Deep Space Nine's Jem'Hadar and Vorta serving the gods of the Dominion😉
 
Patricia said:
Yeah, I've had the same response when I bring up the GB. It seems to be a real conversation stopper.
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They are all tip toeing round the gb like the nervous Nazi generals of staff feared upsetting Hitler: They are not operating out of love but out of fear: Their truth has not set them free but imprisoned them: We here @ e-jehovahs-witnesses have been liberated by the Holy Spirit, true to Christ's word 'The truth has set us free!' As for our siblings Isaiah 42:22 describes them

"But this is a people plundered and pillaged, All of them are trapped in the holes and hidden in the prisons. They have been plundered with no one to rescue them. ………."'

The weeds have most definitely choked out the wheat in the words of Jah @ Eze8:6 "Son of man, do you see what terrible detestable things the house of Israel is doing here things that make me go far away from my sanctuary?"
 
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Second cart; After a discussion on who is Jerusalem the one brother agreed with the logic that after Jerusalem's trampling on by the nations is fulfilled it must still be Jerusalem...Even though none of them knew what the scripture was referring to. The discussion moves on and I'm saying you don't have freedom of thought only allowed to think what the gb dictate...….'Oh we do think' pipes the sister I said allow me to contradict....The brother just agreed that you must still be Jerusalem yes? Yes they say. Well let's see if you change your mind when you read what the society says as to the designation of Jerusalem...….Instead of thanking me for educating them on what their masters say they huff and puff.
I'm winning arguments but not hearts or minds.
I noticed over the last three days there are only four carts instead of the five now?
 
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Second cart; After a discussion on who is Jerusalem the one brother agreed with the logic that after Jerusalem's trampling on by the nations is fulfilled it must still be Jerusalem...Even though none of them knew what the scripture was referring to. The discussion moves on and I'm saying you don't have freedom of thought only allowed to think what the gb dictate...….'Oh we do think' pipes the sister I said allow me to contradict....The brother just agreed that you must still be Jerusalem yes? Yes they say. Well let's see if you change your mind when you read what the society says as to the designation of Jerusalem...….Instead of thanking me for educating them on what their masters say they huff and puff.
I'm winning arguments but not hearts or minds.
I noticed over the last three days there are only four carts instead of the five now?
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For many witnesses dear Mick, the best way to teach is to listen. They will give you all the ammo you need for one simple reply. Then repeat the process as they go through it. Simply state the fact and use their own reasoning against them with questions. “Why do you say that?” “But is that what the Bible is referring to?” Then, “Have you thought that this might be true also?” Or - the watchtowers own best friend “Have you ever wondered?” If they read it for themselves, or hear it from you, then you are winning their mind. Be positive about your work. You are there to “cause a division” anyway!

As to the remaining carts…..again, be positive. That one ‘carter’ may have gone home, thought about what you said and agreed and therefore are in the process of rethinking their understanding. I would love to go cart hunting with you!! Keep going. ❤️
 
BARNABY THE DOG. said:
For many witnesses dear Mick, the best way to teach is to listen. They will give you all the ammo you need for one simple reply. Then repeat the process as they go through it. Simply state the fact and use their own reasoning against them with questions. “Why do you say that?” “But is that what the Bible is referring to?” Then, “Have you thought that this might be true also?” Or - the watchtowers own best friend “Have you ever wondered?” If they read it for themselves, or hear it from you, then you are winning their mind. Be positive about your work. You are there to “cause a division” anyway!

As to the remaining carts…..again, be positive. That one ‘carter’ may have gone home, thought about what you said and agreed and therefore are in the process of rethinking their understanding. I would love to go cart hunting with you!! Keep going. ❤️
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I could go round and round reasoning but getting no where so now I'm going to place the brochure and book: I just asked AI to collate from Robert's writings what scriptural reasonings have become a tenet of W/T's new light......Barn it's exhaustive...Awsome and I will make sure those I come in contact with hear the facts...They are a captive audience and they need to know the truth. Just one of the many is the correction to their prophesy of Joel's locusts which they updated later. We truly are privileged to have heard it here first brother
 
MickHewitt said:
I could go round and round reasoning but getting no where so now I'm going to place the brochure and book: I just asked AI to collate from Robert's writings what scriptural reasonings have become a tenet of W/T's new light......Barn it's exhaustive...Awsome and I will make sure those I come in contact with hear the facts...They are a captive audience and they need to know the truth. Just one of the many is the correction to their prophesy of Joel's locusts which they updated later. We truly are privileged to have heard it here first brother
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I’ll hold them down while you tell them the truth Mick!
 
First cart two siblings recognised me and I just about got my intro done: I used Jerry & Phyllis's year 2000, Questions from readers which really condemned what the latest update on blood was! No variation of the turning of the shadow: Jehovah is our Rock unmovable how dare the gb contradict his laws! The second cart bless them they always send me off with love and I think that's because we have a laugh at times over some silly thing...usually my antics my mad gestures and waving infront of them..I truly am a theatrical specticle! With them I hope it's slowly getting through: The blood update has given so much leverage ...Big thanks to the gb😉 Only two carts, could not find any others out: My next intro was going to be the books chapter on the partnership with the U.N.
If only they would spend as much time reading scripture as they do chatting with each other behind those carts!
 
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I showed one cart comprised of four siblings the JHBK book: They were amazed at the title: I said 'The author has many times wrote to Bethel in order to question certain scriptural decisions made by the body: Only later to find Bethel updating their once held beliefs in line with the author then pronouncing it as new light': I quoted one instance of the locusts in Joel? I moved on to point to the partnership with the U.N and sadly that was a move to much where the brother muscled in and said 'We must put a stop to you as we only read what the W/T prints....Please move on!' I said 'Nothing in this book contradicts Jehovah's law but I fear you are all witnessing for the gb and not Jehovah and that is taking worship away from God which is idolatry'!
 
MickHewitt said:
I showed one cart comprised of four siblings the JHBK book: They were amazed at the title: I said 'The author has many times wrote to Bethel in order to question certain scriptural decisions made by the body: Only later to find Bethel updating their once held beliefs in line with the author then pronouncing it as new light': I quoted one instance of the locusts in Joel? I moved on to point to the partnership with the U.N and sadly that was a move to much where the brother muscled in and said 'We must put a stop to you as we only read what the W/T prints....Please move on!' I said 'Nothing in this book contradicts Jehovah's law but I fear you are all witnessing for the gb and not Jehovah and that is taking worship away from God which is idolatry'!
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I've never liked being accused of being a cult. Not even when I stopped attending meetings. Still, the behavior of isolating followers, even scripturally and idealogically is a trait of cults. They all do it to some degree. People's Temple and Branch Davidians were the most obvious. Then when I hear things like brothers getting taken to back room or disfellowshipped in the 80s for reading the bible without a Watchtower study aid in hand, I am stumped with nothing to reply.
The 1975 debacle became public knowledge in San Diego. I lived in Arkansas at the time but my brother told me about it years later when I began to study.
We praise people when they have questions and it leads to return visits or studies but when the questions persist, then they have a problem.
I had a conversation with a brother I believe to be an elder where I now live. He broke out the JW app but I didn't ID myself. I steered the conversation to the Covid response and the truth regarding the injections.
In one ear...
 
MickHewitt said:
I showed one cart comprised of four siblings the JHBK book: They were amazed at the title: I said 'The author has many times wrote to Bethel in order to question certain scriptural decisions made by the body: Only later to find Bethel updating their once held beliefs in line with the author then pronouncing it as new light': I quoted one instance of the locusts in Joel? I moved on to point to the partnership with the U.N and sadly that was a move to much where the brother muscled in and said 'We must put a stop to you as we only read what the W/T prints....Please move on!' I said 'Nothing in this book contradicts Jehovah's law but I fear you are all witnessing for the gb and not Jehovah and that is taking worship away from God which is idolatry'!
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Have you had a look inside B@Q to see if they sell a cart like structure that would hold a dozen or so JHBK books? You could set up next to them. Great progress there Mick. I love reading about your ministry. Makes my day! ❤️
 
MickHewitt said:
I showed one cart comprised of four siblings the JHBK book: They were amazed at the title: I said 'The author has many times wrote to Bethel in order to question certain scriptural decisions made by the body: Only later to find Bethel updating their once held beliefs in line with the author then pronouncing it as new light': I quoted one instance of the locusts in Joel? I moved on to point to the partnership with the U.N and sadly that was a move to much where the brother muscled in and said 'We must put a stop to you as we only read what the W/T prints....Please move on!' I said 'Nothing in this book contradicts Jehovah's law but I fear you are all witnessing for the gb and not Jehovah and that is taking worship away from God which is idolatry'!
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Next time you get the “We only read what the watchtower prints”, you can say “I only read what Jehovah prints”, and hold up your Bible! Keep going Mick. Wonderful stories from the front line. Makes me feel back when I first heard the word.
 
We all have something to offer when it comes to witnessing the truth: Whenever I log on here I always get something I can use in the ministry: I am currently using @Jerry&Phyllis, Questions from readers 2000 in my texts to elders and the carts: Also the verse from @Melinda Riling, 'Get out of her my people' which points to a specific bunch of earthly servants close enough for Jehovah to count them as His people......
 
W/T's whitewashed façade, this excuse of a source for life saving instructions is soon to be brought down to the earth and its foundations will be exposed. Eze13:14. JHBK is just such a utensil in Jehovah's prophesied destruction of this lie.
 
Four carts about 17 siblings between them: First cart: 'Apostate warning!' Just keep walking apostate!' I argued that I had come to discuss a scripture which they refused to even consider to which I replied that didn't Christ consider arguments put forward by the religious leaders of the day, the Pharisees and such? 'We do not give the time of day to apostates! Ok I couldn't get the opportunity of showing Cart 1 where apostasy originates: 2Thess2 from the MOL so I said you have just fulfilled prophecy read Jer6:17
Cart 2: Very amicable brother who gave me his ear to my reasoning on the wheat and weeds while others set up the cart. He could not dismiss the reasoning that the conclusion not being here means weeds are extant in the kingdom!
Cart 3: Five siblings listen until sixth arrives but I managed to get most of my delivery out to a very sleepy looking bunch!
Cart 4: I present the book stating it gave evidence of U.N involvement by the gb for nine years. Oh no they reply. Who are you anyway? I am Jehovah's witness and I'm here to inform you of wrong doing by those in Bethel who demand your worship. After showing from scriptures that it was only in Christ's arrival that sees appointment over belongings......But Christ arrived in 1914 they reply...….Show me evidence of that in scripture......Crickets and dust bunnies going through the three minds...They tell me if I do not recognise that then I cannot be Jehovah's witness! I tell them that I witness to Jehovah backing everything up by scripture but you witness to anything the gb tell you! I then prove what I just said by quoting the gb's change to God's word over the blood issue.
A busy morning in cartdom.....So many siblings to save in so little time!
 
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Only one cart showed interest today: I was walking a brother through 2Thess2: and all good showing where the apostasy originates also that it is not the sole ownership of the rank and file, it is the MOL and he resides in the temple of God: only to hear the brother joyfully say ah! no it says temple of the God which the study bible goes on to say is the seat of false religion! I tell him that the NWT is the only translation that uses the definite article in that verse which closes down the conversation. It is most egregious to alter the context of a verse and they will pay dearly for doing so. It gives me great joy to be involved with this work because even when it looks like I'm getting no where I am fulfilling many verses where Jah says I called but they refused to answer! I have been visiting halls every Sunday in the circuit and making sure the book, brochure and introductory letter is given to the Coordinator. One hall serves six congregations where there were once three halls each serving two! I on two occasions arrived on Sunday where the hall was closed down in the middle of being sold even though the website said it was functioning giving times of meetings!
 
MickHewitt said:
Only one cart showed interest today: I was walking a brother through 2Thess2: and all good showing where the apostasy originates also that it is not the sole ownership of the rank and file, it is the MOL and he resides in the temple of God: only to hear the brother joyfully say ah! no it says temple of the God which the study bible goes on to say is the seat of false religion! I tell him that the NWT is the only translation that uses the definite article in that verse which closes down the conversation. It is most egregious to alter the context of a verse and they will pay dearly for doing so. It gives me great joy to be involved with this work because even when it looks like I'm getting no where I am fulfilling many verses where Jah says I called but they refused to answer! I have been visiting halls every Sunday in the circuit and making sure the book, brochure and introductory letter is given to the Coordinator. One hall serves six congregations where there were once three halls each serving two! I on two occasions arrived on Sunday where the hall was closed down in the middle of being sold even though the website said it was functioning giving times of meetings!
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Good job, Mick. Thanks for the update. BTW, the latest revision of the NWT dropped the definite article. "He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god."
 
MickHewitt said:
Only one cart showed interest today: I was walking a brother through 2Thess2: and all good showing where the apostasy originates also that it is not the sole ownership of the rank and file, it is the MOL and he resides in the temple of God: only to hear the brother joyfully say ah! no it says temple of the God which the study bible goes on to say is the seat of false religion! I tell him that the NWT is the only translation that uses the definite article in that verse which closes down the conversation. It is most egregious to alter the context of a verse and they will pay dearly for doing so. It gives me great joy to be involved with this work because even when it looks like I'm getting no where I am fulfilling many verses where Jah says I called but they refused to answer! I have been visiting halls every Sunday in the circuit and making sure the book, brochure and introductory letter is given to the Coordinator. One hall serves six congregations where there were once three halls each serving two! I on two occasions arrived on Sunday where the hall was closed down in the middle of being sold even though the website said it was functioning giving times of meetings!
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Following winders latest speech I should imagine the watchtower will have a full portfolio of halls to sell. Mind you, what they gain in selling halls, they will loose in “donations”. It’s a “one time sale”. Perhaps when they have spent all their money, they will set up a cardboard box HQ of the sort they built the brothers in Africa.
 
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