The beast's timeline Part 1 : Elite numerology and the 1914 deception

BARNABY THE DOG.

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What's your opinion on Daniel's 1,290 and 1,335 days, and Revelation's "time, times and half a time?" Jehovah didn't put a timeline in for us to figure out the beginning of Jesus taking the throne, which would have gone against what Jesus said about nobody knowing the time. JWs have been burned by the 1914 fraudulent numerology, so I completely understand any reluctance at deciphering dates via numerology. I guess my take on David's work is that he's saying Satan is doing it outside of the Bible or by twisting the Bible. I'm trying to figure out what Satan's NWO timeline could be? And did he give clues to his minions? I wouldn't advocate Astrology, but if I knew Satan made plans based on the sun, moon and stars I would like to know what they are so I could avoid falling for his lies. But that's a slippery slope there.
I think you are right about the slippery slope. You put it better than I did. It seems a contradiction in terms to go to the opposer to reason the truth of the matter. Satan may well give the enquirer what they think they want. If we cannot get the truth rm the watchtower, how will we get it from their manager? That really is what puts me off this sort of guess work. I would rather not know, than be distracted at this time. The bible warns us about divination anyway.
 

Truth_Seeker

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"Tell me, you who want to be under law, do you not listen to the Law? For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and one by the free woman. But the son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, and the son by the free woman through the promise. This is speaking allegorically, for these women are two covenants: one coming from Mount Sinai giving birth to children who are to be slaves; she is Hagar. Now this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is enslaved with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free; she is our mother. For it is written: “Rejoice, infertile one, you who do not give birth; Break forth and shout, you who are not in labor; For the children of the desolate one are more numerous Than those of the one who has a husband.” So then, brothers and sisters, we are not children of a slave woman, but of the free woman."
Galatians 4:21‭-‬27‭, ‬31
Personally, as it stands at the moment, I don't see Watchtower leadership as being part of the free woman.
 

DR74minus

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I'm trying to figure out what Satan's NWO timeline could be?

Satan's focus is to divert worship away from Jehovah to himself. I suspect not even Satan knows the NWO time line, and neither would his minions? Satan and his worshipers cannot predict the future. All they know is what they want to achieve. They have no clue when their plans will come to fruition if ever. So we don't need to look into Satan's "Timeline" if there is such a thing, whatever mumbo jumbo is involved in trying to follow it. However we can use what is going on around us to maintain our vigil and to help us interpret somewhat how Jehovah's prophesies are unfolding.
 
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LuisMerino9412

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The Watchtower's 1914 deception and the future
Remember when I mentioned something like this brother? Hehe about 1914+120?
I've always kinda thought that 2034 would mean something. It will be 2000 years + 1 of the death of Christ. And I know also that many secret societies and people believe that every 2000 years there is a change in humanity and the system that has governed over the last 2000 years. Some people believe that Christianity has governed the world over the past 2000 years and a new Era is coming. The Aquarius Era, an era where Christianity will be out of the picture. I've read some articles in vigilantcitizen about that and make a lot of sense. We are living very interesting times and we must simply wait and see. But I do think also that this system (the way it is now) can no longer survive. People are tired of everything. And just like you in some way I have thought, if Satan is so smart (which I certainly think looking at all this) why is his world such a horrible mess? If he's trying to proof that he's right? Why does he act so stupid? But now I can see he's not stupid at all. He's simply preparing the stage for what he's truly planning behind the scenes. Our planet can no longer survive like this either. The clock is timing and there is no too much time for Satan to show what he wants. So, I don't think that Jehovah will let this world continue on and on indefinitely... Something must happen soon in the coming years. I cannot imagine this world going on for more than 100 years or more... Even less time. Besides, the period of the seventh king is short and has been already governing for almost 100 years... I don't think it will go too much longer. Something got to happen soon. And I hope it will blow up soon! Haha I'm also incredibly tired of this world... 😪😢😭😞
 

BagdadBill

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. And I hope it will blow up soon! Haha I'm also incredibly tired of this world... 😪😢😭😞
I'm pretty sure we are all tired of this world. It is right and holy for God to act because of the damage people have tried to ascribe to his name. The things being done to his creation are a slander against his reputation because people ask why God doesn't act. They don't understand his patience and the devil knows this.
 

David1982

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Remember when I mentioned something like this brother? Hehe about 1914+120?
I've always kinda thought that 2034 would mean something. It will be 2000 years + 1 of the death of Christ.
Yes Luis and you're not the only one. I've heard it from brothers in real life too, like recently from my father who had heard others bring up the topic. To keep their control over the congregation, the Watchtower has always cultivated a sense of urgency, the end was always just around the corner, but "no one knows the day and hour". So they couldn't say "the end is in 2034", but at the same time, when they mention Genesis 6:3, they don't close the door to that interpretation, so that the brothers themselves can build that kind of expectation.

if Satan is so smart (which I certainly think looking at all this) why is his world such a horrible mess? If he's trying to proof that he's right? Why does he act so stupid? But now I can see he's not stupid at all. He's simply preparing the stage for what he's truly planning behind the scenes.
The more the world becomes a horrible mess, the more death and madness abound, the more the unveiling of the beast and its rule will seem awesome and Satan's deception will be a success. If everyone knows Satan as a mad and murderous being, how can they think that it's him behind a new order offering peace, hope, and security?
Satan's "perfect" rule is all about offering the best world he can create, so as to put the motivations of all who pretend to follow Christ to the test. Do we follow Christ for our own salvation, and to live a good life in a world that makes sense? Or do we pursue God's and Christ's truth and justice no matter what, even if we have to give up everything, even possibly our lives? Can we recognize and follow the voice of our shepherd anywhere, or is a counterfeit version enough for us?
 

DR74minus

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the more the unveiling of the beast and its rule will seem awesome and Satan's deception will be a success.

Some who claim to worship Jehovah may, along with Satan's worshipers, get sucked in by Satan's schemes. But the scriptures do say that people will be put under compulsion to worship the beast. Those with a strong relationship with Jehovah I suspect will be protected by Jehovah during the "heat Zone" so to speak.

If everyone knows Satan as a mad and murderous being, how can they think that it's him behind a new order offering peace, hope, and security?

True worshipers of Jehovah already know who is behind the globalist's NWO agenda. They don't need to concern themselves with their and their master's plan.

Satan's "perfect" rule

Duh.
 

David1982

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True worshipers of Jehovah already know who is behind the globalist's NWO agenda. They don't need to concern themselves with their and their master's plan.
You mean like the millions of our brothers and sisters who wouldn't be bothered with knowing about Satan's plans, and happily - or NOT - went to get the shots he prescribed because the Slave said so?
In that case, I'd rather over obssess a bit about Satan's plans, just in case he had the idea to again use supposed "workers of light" to advertise his schemes.


I'll leave you to your arrogance. As for me, I consider it a part of my christian duty to stay alert to the deceptions being built around us, and keep making sense of them. I see no place for pride and cockiness in the warnings that Jesus gave us, about the events that will soon engulf the world.

21 for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.
23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned you. 26 Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. (Matthew 24:23-25)

25 When the disciples heard that, they were greatly astounded, saying: “Who really can be saved?” 26 Looking at them intently, Jesus said to them: “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” (Matthew 19:25-26)

15 “Look! I am coming as a thief. Happy is the one who stays awake and keeps his outer garments, so that he may not walk naked and people look upon his shamefulness.” (Revelation 16:15)
 

DR74minus

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You mean like the millions of our brothers and sisters who wouldn't be bothered with knowing about Satan's plans, and happily - or NOT - went to get the shots he prescribed because the Slave said so?
That is what you mean.
In that case, I'd rather over obssess a bit about Satan's plans, just in case he had the idea to again use supposed "workers of light" to advertise his schemes.
I'm inclined to see how current events line up with Jehovah's prophesies.
I'll leave you to your arrogance.
I see no place for pride and cockiness in the warnings that Jesus gave us, about the events that will soon engulf the world.
Saying Satan's "perfect" rule, also thinking that you've been given greater insight into the meaning of what is going on around us. Now that is arrogant, cocky also stupid. Not to mention being defensive because I called you out. Lack of humility prehaps? while claiming to be Christian even.
 

coinlady

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23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned you. 26 Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. (Matthew 24:23-25)
I just read this before I read this scripture....Wow! Thank you for your research! I'll never read that scripture the same again.

Serge Monast's Project Blue Beam Makes Today's Conspiracy Theories Look Sane
 

LuisMerino9412

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Yes Luis and you're not the only one. I've heard it from brothers in real life too, like recently from my father who had heard others bring up the topic. To keep their control over the congregation, the Watchtower has always cultivated a sense of urgency, the end was always just around the corner, but "no one knows the day and hour". So they couldn't say "the end is in 2034", but at the same time, when they mention Genesis 6:3, they don't close the door to that interpretation, so that the brothers themselves can build that kind of expectation.


The more the world becomes a horrible mess, the more death and madness abound, the more the unveiling of the beast and its rule will seem awesome and Satan's deception will be a success. If everyone knows Satan as a mad and murderous being, how can they think that it's him behind a new order offering peace, hope, and security?
Satan's "perfect" rule is all about offering the best world he can create, so as to put the motivations of all who pretend to follow Christ to the test. Do we follow Christ for our own salvation, and to live a good life in a world that makes sense? Or do we pursue God's and Christ's truth and justice no matter what, even if we have to give up everything, even possibly our lives? Can we recognize and follow the voice of our shepherd anywhere, or is a counterfeit version enough for us?
Good point. Overall, the last one. Thank you for your insight brother. That's absolutely true! That's what the issue of integrity is about.
 

LuisMerino9412

Active member
Some who claim to worship Jehovah may, along with Satan's worshipers, get sucked in by Satan's schemes. But the scriptures do say that people will be put under compulsion to worship the beast. Those with a strong relationship with Jehovah I suspect will be protected by Jehovah during the "heat Zone" so to speak.



True worshipers of Jehovah already know who is behind the globalist's NWO agenda. They don't need to concern themselves with their and their master's plan.



Duh.
You are very rude. He's just trying to share with us what he knows... 🙄😡😒You don't have to be rude. You say he's not Christian, but the one not showing to be Christian with his rude attitude is you. I hate rudeness and that's why I react this way.
 

Cristo

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However we can use what is going on around us to maintain our vigil and to help us interpret somewhat how Jehovah's prophesies are unfolding.
Lol…you criticize David for throwing out an interpretation of how he sees things possibly transpiring, and then in your own words state that it’s ok for us to maintain our vigil to help interpret the unfolding of prophesies. So which way are you leaning? You seem confused.

What is your purpose here minus? To upbuild, or to critique and straw man posts so that you appear to be right?
 

DR74minus

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What is your purpose here minus? To upbuild, or to critique and straw man posts so that you appear to be right?

Says the hypocrite trying to discredit me. What seems to be your problem old girl? If the truth offends you? then don't look Ethel. Theres a good lass.
 

Cristo

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Says the hypocrite trying to discredit me. What seems to be your problem old girl? If the truth offends you? then don't look Ethel. Theres a good lass.
Lol…Hi Robert(not King). I thought it was you but couldn’t tell. You discredit yourself...although you do make me laugh in your banter.
 
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