The Jeffrey Epstein revelation is the most relevant part of all bible prophecies being fulfilled right now

Nomex, I think it was you who were talking about how Trump has to be the representative King of the South because he can't represent the Deep State with his belief system. I'm asking your opinion on this.

There's a significant problem with Trump even if the accusations towards Trump in the Epstein Files are just that - accusations. Kash Patel the director of FBI and Pam Bondi were adamant that there were nothing significant. And Pam Bondi especially were acting like a child even making the most superficial defense to justify lying under oath(which Kash Patel is also guilty of). She was saying what Dow Jones is 50K so it's ok?

So then the best case scenario for Trump is he messed up on the appointments again. Or he got blindsided like last time, because the 4D chess argument is looking less and less likely. Or, he is indeed involved at least in the coverup part even if he's not directly involved.
 
Nomex, I think it was you who were talking about how Trump has to be the representative King of the South because he can't represent the Deep State with his belief system. I'm asking your opinion on this.

There's a significant problem with Trump even if the accusations towards Trump in the Epstein Files are just that - accusations. Kash Patel the director of FBI and Pam Bondi were adamant that there were nothing significant. And Pam Bondi especially were acting like a child even making the most superficial defense to justify lying under oath(which Kash Patel is also guilty of). She was saying what Dow Jones is 50K so it's ok?

So then the best case scenario for Trump is he messed up on the appointments again. Or he got blindsided like last time, because the 4D chess argument is looking less and less likely. Or, he is indeed involved at least in the coverup part even if he's not directly involved.
So let me say first off, before I explain why I am so convinced that he is not "one of them", that is to say he's NOT in on it, he's not involved with the KON, but I completely and totally understand why people think that, even on this forum. The things you mention are just a few, this business with Iran, on and on.

So let me try to lay out why I am convinced he's actually not one of them, that he really and truly believes in his MAGA movement, and that he is honestly trying to "save America." And I hold this opinion solely based on how I interpret what I know now about who the KOTN actually is, now that we know it's not and has never been Russia. (I should point out that Robert's work of course has largely inspired my refined understanding of all this.) It has in fact ALWAYS been the British. And that puzzled me at first. How could the dual World Power be two rivals, when clearly the image in Daniel the way WT interprets it, the "iron and clay represent the KOTS! So how is it possible that the British are in fact the KOTN?

Well, Daniel actually gives us the answer, the "iron and clay don't mix." Then it dawned on me, "the alliance is not really an alliance, and never has been." It's just that the "dumb giant" never figured it out. The British have always wanted it's wayward colony back. So, as the adage goes, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

Now, on to another piece of this puzzle. I recently really started following Promethean Action. I think they are spot on, with one exception, and a lot of it is because of things like you listed above, but I don't think Trump actually knows he's taking on the British. I think he just understands business, and knows the US made a lot of bad business deals. But if you notice these people always say things like they "made a bad deal" or they "got it wrong" or "they don't know what they are doing", the problem is, none of what these people do is an accident, and I do not think Trump has figured it out yet, or he's too busy, or both.

So i think he gets a lot of BAD advise. Nobody who gets into that kind of position gets there with out very good consultants, and he had those for his businesses and likely over decades of dealings, learned a TON about it. Now some of that may have transferred over into government, but there's still that part of government where he has no experience, and has to rely on consultants, so he's vulnerable to deep state actors, like these fools lying about Epstein, and I'm not going to pretend I understand any of there behavior, because I can't make any sense of it. Do they believe this will take down the government? Are they trying to play ball in Washington, because Trump's gonna be gone in 3 years? Who knows?

Another piece of this (the very biggest of them all actually,) is I think we are all forgetting it is still the "time of the nations" or the "gentile times". Jesus has NOT returned yet! I think the real reason the Great Tribulation has not come yet, is because I believe Jehovah is letting Trump try to "save America" and FAIL! This is part of "it does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step." The best form of government man has ever come up with, is about to fail, and fail miserably. So bad in fact Jehovah has to stop what happens to save the earth! That will be the ultimate proof mankind needs God, or we would destroy ourselves, in fact would have if he didn't stop it. (That's also why I think the 8th King will take credit for stopping the GT, somehow). And the only thing left, is for mankind to pick what side they want to be on, and that is the Mark of the Beast. And Christ Brothers will be there making sure we know which side is which. Although, for some it will be easier than for others. The Bible says Christ's followers would "know his voice." (I do wonder also, if the GT includes the time period up to and until Armageddon).

But that last paragraph is why I am convinced Trump is NOT on the side of the KOTN, because he's trying to save America, and in order for it to fulfill prophecy, it's a REAL rivalry and he's really trying. The KOTS is destroyed by the KOTN, and they both morph into the completed image of Danial, the 8th and final King! But because the KOTN, pretending to be it's ally has infiltrate every aspect of the KOTS' government (that's why you have these people like Patel and Bondi). That is also what the "iron and clay" that "do not mix" represent. It has to be a real clash between the Sovereign State versus the Imperial State. These two forms of government do not mix either. The British have no real freedoms, just speak out about rape gangs, see what happens.

So, no I don't think there's any 4d chess. I don't think Trump is as smart those people make out who make those claims about "4d chess." Those people don't know how the world actually works. And I don't think Trump really knows either.
 
If you take two liars and put them in front of a warehouse full of available lies and tell them they can have their fill, you might get what you expected. Maybe.
I know Epstein and anyone connected to him are evil. What I want to add is this. My mother was 14 or 15 by the time she had the first, my sister. Yes, my mom was probably too young by judgemental standards. What Epstein was doing was way beyond normal decency and that is what I hope will be shown. Every time this sort of topic comes up I feel my face get red because I know my mom was young when she had me. I can't change that. At least she gave me life. Abortion was available in 1962.
 
So let me say first off, before I explain why I am so convinced that he is not "one of them", that is to say he's NOT in on it, he's not involved with the KON, but I completely and totally understand why people think that, even on this forum. The things you mention are just a few, this business with Iran, on and on.

So let me try to lay out why I am convinced he's actually not one of them, that he really and truly believes in his MAGA movement, and that he is honestly trying to "save America." And I hold this opinion solely based on how I interpret what I know now about who the KOTN actually is, now that we know it's not and has never been Russia. (I should point out that Robert's work of course has largely inspired my refined understanding of all this.) It has in fact ALWAYS been the British. And that puzzled me at first. How could the dual World Power be two rivals, when clearly the image in Daniel the way WT interprets it, the "iron and clay represent the KOTS! So how is it possible that the British are in fact the KOTN?

Well, Daniel actually gives us the answer, the "iron and clay don't mix." Then it dawned on me, "the alliance is not really an alliance, and never has been." It's just that the "dumb giant" never figured it out. The British have always wanted it's wayward colony back. So, as the adage goes, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

Now, on to another piece of this puzzle. I recently really started following Promethean Action. I think they are spot on, with one exception, and a lot of it is because of things like you listed above, but I don't think Trump actually knows he's taking on the British. I think he just understands business, and knows the US made a lot of bad business deals. But if you notice these people always say things like they "made a bad deal" or they "got it wrong" or "they don't know what they are doing", the problem is, none of what these people do is an accident, and I do not think Trump has figured it out yet, or he's too busy, or both.

So i think he gets a lot of BAD advise. Nobody who gets into that kind of position gets there with out very good consultants, and he had those for his businesses and likely over decades of dealings, learned a TON about it. Now some of that may have transferred over into government, but there's still that part of government where he has no experience, and has to rely on consultants, so he's vulnerable to deep state actors, like these fools lying about Epstein, and I'm not going to pretend I understand any of there behavior, because I can't make any sense of it. Do they believe this will take down the government? Are they trying to play ball in Washington, because Trump's gonna be gone in 3 years? Who knows?

Another piece of this (the very biggest of them all actually,) is I think we are all forgetting it is still the "time of the nations" or the "gentile times". Jesus has NOT returned yet! I think the real reason the Great Tribulation has not come yet, is because I believe Jehovah is letting Trump try to "save America" and FAIL! This is part of "it does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step." The best form of government man has ever come up with, is about to fail, and fail miserably. So bad in fact Jehovah has to stop what happens to save the earth! That will be the ultimate proof mankind needs God, or we would destroy ourselves, in fact would have if he didn't stop it. (That's also why I think the 8th King will take credit for stopping the GT, somehow). And the only thing left, is for mankind to pick what side they want to be on, and that is the Mark of the Beast. And Christ Brothers will be there making sure we know which side is which. Although, for some it will be easier than for others. The Bible says Christ's followers would "know his voice." (I do wonder also, if the GT includes the time period up to and until Armageddon).

But that last paragraph is why I am convinced Trump is NOT on the side of the KOTN, because he's trying to save America, and in order for it to fulfill prophecy, it's a REAL rivalry and he's really trying. The KOTS is destroyed by the KOTN, and they both morph into the completed image of Danial, the 8th and final King! But because the KOTN, pretending to be it's ally has infiltrate every aspect of the KOTS' government (that's why you have these people like Patel and Bondi). That is also what the "iron and clay" that "do not mix" represent. It has to be a real clash between the Sovereign State versus the Imperial State. These two forms of government do not mix either. The British have no real freedoms, just speak out about rape gangs, see what happens.

So, no I don't think there's any 4d chess. I don't think Trump is as smart those people make out who make those claims about "4d chess." Those people don't know how the world actually works. And I don't think Trump really knows either.
Trump will fail when it's all said and done. The British, and its accessories, have succeeded by destroying America from the inside. I still question why Trump said that this will be the last election. The last one before annihilation, or the last before the world government takes complete control.
 
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So, no I don't think there's any 4d chess. I don't think Trump is as smart those people make out who make those claims about "4d chess." Those people don't know how the world actually works. And I don't think Trump really knows either.
One reason I ask is that I hope you are right too.

And another thing is I think the "Peace and security" part can't be all illusion and that there's some merit. And I think it would make sense to tie into Watchtower falling first, before other religions. Maybe the arrests do happen. Maybe the Golden Age of America does happen as well, however brief.
 
Watchtower might have to look over what they said were conspiracy theories. "An elite cabal of people that are influencing the governments"

This is in reference to their Conspiracy Theory article. Well, looks like they were wrong. Jeffrey Epstein did work for the Rothchild family. It was a cabal of elites influencing governments and markets. Conspiracy theorists were right again.
Odd isn't how they did use to believe in "conspiracy theories" ?
 
The Watchtower is among the LAST of the groups to get it. Once them and their followers talk about something, you know everyone else knows about it. This is assuming they even mention it. I think maybe they won't talk about it otherwise it would make them look bad.

And they used to be the ones that offered the first color, and moving picture before rest of the world. And they were the ones that made using megaphones on top of the cars to spread the good news. They were on top of the game, but at some point they became the slowest. Look how long it took them to adopt the internet.
Even if they did go on the JW Broadcasting channel to say that they got it all wrong, the pimis would say it's fake news, AI 😂
 
The Watchtower is among the LAST of the groups to get it. Once them and their followers talk about something, you know everyone else knows about it. This is assuming they even mention it. I think maybe they won't talk about it otherwise it would make them look bad.

And they used to be the ones that offered the first color, and moving picture before rest of the world. And they were the ones that made using megaphones on top of the cars to spread the good news. They were on top of the game, but at some point they became the slowest. Look how long it took them to adopt the internet.
Even if they did go on the JW Broadcasting channel to say that they got it all wrong, the pimis would say it's fake news,
Their worst fears is being called too political for believing in certain controversial topics. Seems cowardly to me. The truth is the truth whether it's mistaken to be political or not. They let that fear paralyze them because they don't want to offend anyone. They rather you avoid those conversations, despite it having important modern day context to the last days we are currently living in. We should be discussing it to warn others. Just like you might warn about phishing emails to an elderly parent so that they don't fall into the trap of being scammed.
Actually, they insinuated in one of the 2021 "updates" that if we didn't go along with the governments way of dealing with the covid nonsense, then we were being political. So, going along with the government was NOT being political, NOT going along with the government IS political. Make it make sense 🙃
AI 😂
 
They are cowards, especially the leaders. They are so scared of members being mislead and losing faith. Well, sure, but they will be tested someday. They live in that very world! Are they really naive to think they'll never be affected? That kind of thinking is what results in most disillusioned former JWs not even believing in God, and most even being Atheists. Their hatred in some cases seem "supernatural".

It's like the people who believed in lockdown nonsense. Your immune system has to be trained. Human beings are actually very adaptable. They can learn and be trained. But training requires using it and being tested. If them allowing open discussions result in some leaving, maybe those never had real faith in the first place. They will all be tested in the end anyway, why not prepare them now? It's like putting soldiers about to go war in a bubble and never letting them practice because they can get hurt. How stupid is that?
I don't believe for one moment that they're scared of Jehovah's people being "misled" What they actually want is for only the GB to be able to "mislead" God's people, because it's satan behind the misleading really.. 😡
I believe
 
Every organization has a chink in their armor. Even though I agree with them on most things. There is nuance to everything. Not everything is black and white. It's what I appreciated about Charles Taze Russell's courage. I wish there was more of that today with them.
They've been infiltrated by imposters, Satan's minions, the courageous ones are no longer allowed to have any influence..
 
Even if they did go on the JW Broadcasting channel to say that they got it all wrong, the pimis would say it's fake news,

Actually, they insinuated in one of the 2021 "updates" that if we didn't go along with the governments way of dealing with the covid nonsense, then we were being political. So, going along with the government was NOT being political, NOT going along with the government IS political. Make it make sense 🙃
AI 😂
I will try: A well known French author from the 19C (Emile Chartier) wrote: “Nothing is more dangerous than an idea, when you have only one idea.” And of course, with 1914, this is the fix that watchtower have gotten themselves into. There is no way out except to tell the truth. As they cannot do that because it is a “new light too far”, they must compromise in everything else. Hence “New lie - but not THAT lie.” They are, and always have been, just one step away from redemption by telling the truth, but that too is a “Truth too far” because of pride.

If we look at it from the other side of the coin the truth becomes obvious - strangely enough, hinted at by another French author, Alain-Fournier who wrote: “How can a man who has once strayed into heaven, ever hope to make terms with the earth?” In essence then, how can we undo what we know to be true? We are bound by the truth, just as they are bound by the lie and so the rambling jargon spewed from the mouth of watchtower will for ever be without its logical explanation. We are “bound” to tell the truth, they are “bound” to the lie. One cannot expand on the truth as the Bible says it is punishable by death. There is no such restraint upon the lie (of watchtower), hence their never ending nonsense.
 
So let me say first off, before I explain why I am so convinced that he is not "one of them", that is to say he's NOT in on it, he's not involved with the KON, but I completely and totally understand why people think that, even on this forum. The things you mention are just a few, this business with Iran, on and on.

So let me try to lay out why I am convinced he's actually not one of them, that he really and truly believes in his MAGA movement, and that he is honestly trying to "save America." And I hold this opinion solely based on how I interpret what I know now about who the KOTN actually is, now that we know it's not and has never been Russia. (I should point out that Robert's work of course has largely inspired my refined understanding of all this.) It has in fact ALWAYS been the British. And that puzzled me at first. How could the dual World Power be two rivals, when clearly the image in Daniel the way WT interprets it, the "iron and clay represent the KOTS! So how is it possible that the British are in fact the KOTN?

Well, Daniel actually gives us the answer, the "iron and clay don't mix." Then it dawned on me, "the alliance is not really an alliance, and never has been." It's just that the "dumb giant" never figured it out. The British have always wanted it's wayward colony back. So, as the adage goes, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

Now, on to another piece of this puzzle. I recently really started following Promethean Action. I think they are spot on, with one exception, and a lot of it is because of things like you listed above, but I don't think Trump actually knows he's taking on the British. I think he just understands business, and knows the US made a lot of bad business deals. But if you notice these people always say things like they "made a bad deal" or they "got it wrong" or "they don't know what they are doing", the problem is, none of what these people do is an accident, and I do not think Trump has figured it out yet, or he's too busy, or both.

So i think he gets a lot of BAD advise. Nobody who gets into that kind of position gets there with out very good consultants, and he had those for his businesses and likely over decades of dealings, learned a TON about it. Now some of that may have transferred over into government, but there's still that part of government where he has no experience, and has to rely on consultants, so he's vulnerable to deep state actors, like these fools lying about Epstein, and I'm not going to pretend I understand any of there behavior, because I can't make any sense of it. Do they believe this will take down the government? Are they trying to play ball in Washington, because Trump's gonna be gone in 3 years? Who knows?

Another piece of this (the very biggest of them all actually,) is I think we are all forgetting it is still the "time of the nations" or the "gentile times". Jesus has NOT returned yet! I think the real reason the Great Tribulation has not come yet, is because I believe Jehovah is letting Trump try to "save America" and FAIL! This is part of "it does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step." The best form of government man has ever come up with, is about to fail, and fail miserably. So bad in fact Jehovah has to stop what happens to save the earth! That will be the ultimate proof mankind needs God, or we would destroy ourselves, in fact would have if he didn't stop it. (That's also why I think the 8th King will take credit for stopping the GT, somehow). And the only thing left, is for mankind to pick what side they want to be on, and that is the Mark of the Beast. And Christ Brothers will be there making sure we know which side is which. Although, for some it will be easier than for others. The Bible says Christ's followers would "know his voice." (I do wonder also, if the GT includes the time period up to and until Armageddon).

But that last paragraph is why I am convinced Trump is NOT on the side of the KOTN, because he's trying to save America, and in order for it to fulfill prophecy, it's a REAL rivalry and he's really trying. The KOTS is destroyed by the KOTN, and they both morph into the completed image of Danial, the 8th and final King! But because the KOTN, pretending to be it's ally has infiltrate every aspect of the KOTS' government (that's why you have these people like Patel and Bondi). That is also what the "iron and clay" that "do not mix" represent. It has to be a real clash between the Sovereign State versus the Imperial State. These two forms of government do not mix either. The British have no real freedoms, just speak out about rape gangs, see what happens.

So, no I don't think there's any 4d chess. I don't think Trump is as smart those people make out who make those claims about "4d chess." Those people don't know how the world actually works. And I don't think Trump really knows either.
If Trump was a real threat to the globalists, then wouldn't he be removed by any means necessary?
 
If Trump was a real threat to the globalists, then wouldn't he be removed by any means necessary?
It’s rather difficult to find someone willing to commit suicide even for money. Applicants for the job rarely live long enough to get paid. It’s a bit of a “hit and miss” job anyway. No future in it; some call it a dead end job, even though it’s down to earth. A grave situation all round really.
 
wouldn't he be removed by any means necessary?
You think they haven't tried? I mean the ridiculous 34 felony counts, which were so obviously garbage, so obviously made up so completely and totally desperate. That's the best they have? You know why the media never brought up the fact that the Bush family had ties to actual real Nazi's? That Prescott Bush had no of his banks seized by the US government because it was a Nazi asset! You know why we never heard about that? because it was real, and they had enough dirt on them to control them!

And you know why the real conspirators of the JFK assassination were never ever pursued, even though it was obvious there was more than one gunman? Plausible deniability. They had to make it look like Oswald killed Kennedy, so the real killers could get away with it. These people still want to look like the good guys! So it depends on what you think, "removed by any means necessary", means. Are they willing to kill him and take the blame themselves!!! NO!!! That's your answer!
 
You think they haven't tried? I mean the ridiculous 34 felony counts, which were so obviously garbage, so obviously made up so completely and totally desperate. That's the best they have? You know why the media never brought up the fact that the Bush family had ties to actual real Nazi's? That Prescott Bush had no of his banks seized by the US government because it was a Nazi asset! You know why we never heard about that? because it was real, and they had enough dirt on them to control them!

And you know why the real conspirators of the JFK assassination were never ever pursued, even though it was obvious there was more than one gunman? Plausible deniability. They had to make it look like Oswald killed Kennedy, so the real killers could get away with it. These people still want to look like the good guys! So it depends on what you think, "removed by any means necessary", means. Are they willing to kill him and take the blame themselves!!! NO!!! That's your answer!
Permanent removal, as in no pulse. You get worked up don't you? Don't blow a gasket, but we're not talking about the Bush family or JFK. After awhile, we will see that Trump is part of the globalist agenda. Let me ask you this. In your lifetime has there been any President not on board with the globalist cabal? Do you believe that Trump is going to end the control of the globalists with no consequences? All the world is a stage. Trump has those maga people fooled.
 
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They're trying to figure out how to do it and blame it on Iran or Russia or China. They gotta be sure to cover their own behind else they'll get💣
Exactly and as far as the economy, they already setup the poison pill. Even Trump cannot save it. They are going to bring the financial system down so that they can offer the remedy in the form of the 8th King. Why haven’t they gone slinking back into their snake hole? They are continuing to be bold because they already know the trap is set.
 
Permanent removal, as in no pulse. You get worked up don't you? Don't blow a gasket, but we're not talking about the Bush family or JFK. After awhile, we will see that Trump is part of the globalist agenda. Let me ask you this. In your lifetime has there been any President not on board with the globalist cabal? Do you believe that Trump is going to end the control of the globalists with no consequences? All the world is a stage. Trump has those maga people fooled.
I wasn't worked up in the least. If Trump has those "maga people fooled" then Bible prophecy is not being fulfilled, end of story! The Bible clearly indicates there is a rivalry between two factions. Not a pretend rivalry, an actual real rivalry. Daniel prophesied about the KOTS "engages with the KOTN in a pushing." If Trump is part of the KOTN there is no pushing. I don't know why that's so hard to understand! And most likely Trump will be killed by the KOTN, I never said he wouldn't! In fact I don't know where you think I said he wouldn't be killed. I think Trump is trying to end the Globalist control and they will kill him for it, in fact what you said makes no sense because I said Trump will fail.

I think you're the one "worked up." So worked up, you didn't even read what I wrote!
 
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I wasn't worked up in the least. If Trump has those "maga people fooled" then Bible prophecy is not being fulfilled, end of story! The Bible clearly indicates there is a rivalry between two factions. Not a pretend rivalry, and actual real rivalry. Daniel prophesied about the KOTS "engages with the KOTN in a pushing." If Trump is part of the KOTN there is no pushing. I don't know why that's so hard to understand! And most likely Trump will be killed by the KOTN, I never said he wouldn't! In fact I don't know where you think I said he wouldn't be killed. I think Trump is trying to end the Globalist control and they will kill him for it, in fact what you said makes no sense because I said Trump will fail.

I think you're the one "worked up." So worked up, you didn't even read what I wrote!
We disagree and it's okay. I believe Trump is just another puppet. As far as the KOTN & KOTS, it's open for interpretation. Not everyone subscribes to that narrative.
 
The evidence being exposed in the Epstein files reveals that they planned a pandemic a few years before COVID, which was a man-made bio-weapon released on the world. And, they were plotting on removing all the poor. Now the vaccine makes even more sense because we are all poor compared to the billionaires. Just like their father, Satan, they covet the entire earth for themselves.

 
You are absolutely right to chastise my unkind and single minded tunnel vision - sorry DJ . In my defence I’m aware my faults. I’m road weary.
@BARNABY THE DOG. And I thought you were trying to be sarcastically funny. Anyway, I got a big laugh out of it.
With that said, we don’t need to be make light of the big picture here concerning Epstein.
 
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But that is the whole point of 1914, so they can give themselves authority over Jehovah's sheep in the name of Christ! "It's a perfect organization run by imperfect men." Oh, really? Then it's no longer perfect! What a crock, and to think I ever fell for that nonsense. No, it is men who run WT, and THAT IS THE PROBLEM!
@Nomex Your comment about their use of 1914…why did we not think or listen to Jesus’s words : no one knows the day or hour? WT would say “it’s a perfect organization run by imperfect men.” Yes, that means it’s no longer perfect!

Red flags should have gone up with just those two statements. I believe we were still asleep but not able to wake up yet.
The biggest statement you made here is something I say to myself every day “To think I ever fell for that nonsense.” And it goes without saying that it is the men who run WT, and THAT IS THE PROBLEM!
 
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