The Older Ones (sort of a rant)

Deborah

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I am noticing more and more older friends having financial difficulties because of listening to every word regarding end time/employment when younger.

For me, as was the saying in my neighborhood back in the day, "I AINT PLAYING THAT". I had no intention of cleaning houses like my mom did for years. I watched her work herself crazy to take care of me and I appreciate her hard honest work. However I took a
business/secretarial course in school so when I got out I could work in an office and have a pension when I got old. Nobody told me about retirement or pension this was just the kind of kid I was. I had a mouth too. Still do but much better.

My mom was afraid to express herself too much. Another story.

Anyway I digress (it is an over 70 thing). Fast forward to being a witness back in my young working years I noticed hardly any in my cong had what I call real security jobs. They worked part time/pioneering etc., I was constantly being looked down BY SISTERS for working full time, and and not looking like somebody's grandmother because I liked to dress stylish but modest. Being single at that time with a decent job was very challenging.

Even after marriage I still worked. My mom drilled into me have an account of your own keep it to yourself. Don't totally depend on a man.

So glad I listened because so many older witnesses now have no pensions and only get a little social security.

I am also hearing a great deal of what I call whinning and complaining about how they are going through this or that. Then there are what I refer to as manipulators they know how to work the friends to do things for them. I stay away from folks like that but do help ones who really need help.

My point is lots of us have $$$ problems due to unforseen stuff from this system. Anything can happen in a mini second to alter our lifestyles. But I find it very sad when some put trust in every word of the gb who have all their needs met and not have to work as we do/did and now find themselves with no retirement/ Health benefits etc due to their sincere trust in men. Ticks me the h--- off!

I also know this system can crash at anytime and none of us older or younger will have $$$.

Just sad what I am seeing and hearing.
My rant for the day.
 
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Sundial

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I am noticing more and more older friends having financial difficulties because of listening to every word regarding end time/employment when younger.

For me, as was the saying in my neighborhood back in the day, "I AINT PLAYING THAT". I had no intention of cleaning houses like my mom did for years. I watched her work herself crazy to take care of me and I appreciate her hard honest work. However I took a
business/secretarial course in school so when I got out I could work in an office and have a pension when I got old. Nobody told me about retirement or pension this was just the kind of kid I was. I had a mouth too. Still do but much better.

My mom was afraid to express herself too much. Another story.

Anyway I digress (it is an over 70 thing). Fast forward to being a witness back in my young working years I noticed hardly any in my cong had what I call real security jobs. They worked part time/pioneering etc., I was constantly being looked down BY SISTERS for working full time, and and not looking like somebody's grandmother because I liked to dress stylish but modest. Being single at that time with a decent job was very challenging.

Even after marriage I still worked. My mom drilled into me have an account of your own keep it to yourself. Don't totally depend on a man.

So glad I listened because so many older witnesses now have no pensions and only get a little social security.

I am also hearing a great deal of what I call whinning and complaining about how they are going through this or that. Then there are what I refer to as manipulators they know how to work the friends to do things for them. I stay away from folks like that but do help ones who really need help.

My point is lots of us have $$$ problems due to unforseen stuff from this system. Anything can happen in a mini second to alter our lifestyles. But I find it very sad when some put trust in every word of the gb who have all their needs met and not have to work as we do/did and now find themselves with no retirement/ Health benefits etc due to their sincere trust in men. Ticks me the h--- off!

I also know this system can crash at anytime and none of us older or younger will have $$$.

Just sad what I am seeing and hearing.
My rant for the day.
Wasn't that cruel and short-sighted on the part of an entire organizational elite who would never have to worry about bills of any kind, to demand others sacrifice? It wouldn't be as bad if WTBT actually provided some sort of aid to the most unfortunate, but they have proved to be a tight fisted and greedy organization. Hopefully the young are looking and learning by example although now it is not the world we grew up in and it will be much harder for them if they wait. Those who put off having families and employee benefits because of the society's mantra will be suffering the most. 😞
 

Deborah

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I also remember the 4 day conventions and some lost jobs due to being made to feel guilty if they did not take time off to attend. Not everyone could plan ahead or get the time and had to eventually find other employment to accommodate demands being made while gb jetted off to other countries in style NO WORRIES.

Speaking of which I remember everyone going bonkers when Fred Franz gave a talk at conventions. I had a hard time understanding him.

There were good times, so many good times but so much unnecessary heavy burdens placed on the friends . There is a lot I do miss from those early years though.

Lu 11:28-30

Come to me, all you who are toiling and burdened down, and I WILL REFRESH YOU.

Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for your souls.

For my yoke is kindly and my load is light.

I also just had a side thought. Is it me or does
Sanderson sound not for real. He just sounds like he is forcing himself to project sincere joy. Hope I am not over reacting.
 

SingleCell

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The Watchtower's load is overbearing, heavy and destructive.

I respect those who follow it, but personally never fell in that particular trap; worked hard, learned a skill, and took what the Watchtower taught regarding money seriously (because the love of money really is a delusion and root of injurious things)

The Watchtower teaching is an analog of the Rechabites.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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I also remember the 4 day conventions and some lost jobs due to being made to feel guilty if they did not take time off to attend. Not everyone could plan ahead or get the time and had to eventually find other employment to accommodate demands being made while gb jetted off to other countries in style NO WORRIES.

Speaking of which I remember everyone going bonkers when Fred Franz gave a talk at conventions. I had a hard time understanding him.

There were good times, so many good times but so much unnecessary heavy burdens placed on the friends . There is a lot I do miss from those early years though.

Lu 11:28-30

Come to me, all you who are toiling and burdened down, and I WILL REFRESH YOU.

Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for your souls.

For my yoke is kindly and my load is light.

I also just had a side thought. Is it me or does
Sanderson sound not for real. He just sounds like he is forcing himself to project sincere joy. Hope I am not over reacting.
No, it’s not just you who thinks that about Sanderson. He always gave me that same feeling of not being sincere. I remember back in 2014 I went to NY Brooklyn Bethel with my daughter and her husband. We were walking down the hallway in the main headquarters building when we noticed Sanderson walking to the elevator. He saw us and I remember we smiled at him but we were given any acknowledgement….then we saw him again within a few minutes, walking close by, same nothing response.
I chalked it up to maybe he was on a mission and busy with that.
But I don’t know except we were told that because of it being in the summer many of the Bethelites were away on vacation and besides there wasn’t too much activity going on anyway.
Hmm, go figure 🤷‍♀️
 

Ms_ladyblue

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On the other hand, back when we went to Bethel in 1997 we saw brother Max Larson ( do you remember him?) And it was crowded that day in the lobby of the building in Brooklyn. Now he did stop and talk to us and even agreed to have his picture taken with us. He was really nice and very funny too. We enjoyed talking to him.
 
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Deborah

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The bushy eyebrow brother.

He was happy cuz he had a wife 15 years younger than him, LOL . However, I understand she got ill with MS. I also remember reading about rumors regarding his feeling toward some gb members. But we all know about rumor mills. Always gossip and rumors floating around.
 
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Ms_ladyblue

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The bushy eyebrow brother.

He was happy cuz he had a wife 15 years younger than him, LOL although I understand she got ill with MS. I also remember the rumor mill about him and his feelings re: gb. But could all be rumor mill jw stuff. Always rumors and gossip floating around.
Lol, yes, him. Oh! So that’s why he was so upbeat. But I didn’t know anything about those rumors.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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No, it’s not just you who thinks that about Sanderson. He always gave me that same feeling of not being sincere. I remember back in 2014 I went to NY Brooklyn Bethel with my daughter and her husband. We were walking down the hallway in the main headquarters building when we noticed Sanderson walking to the elevator. He saw us and I remember we smiled at him but we were given any acknowledgement….then we saw him again within a few minutes, walking close by, same nothing response.
I chalked it up to maybe he was on a mission and busy with that.
But I don’t know except we were told that because of it being in the summer many of the Bethelites were away on vacation and besides there wasn’t too much activity going on anyway.
Hmm, go figure 🤷‍♀️
If you want to make an elder aware of your presence, ignore them, or ask them to direct you to the toilet, (or ‘bathroom’ when in America - incidentally, that’s why I never, ever, use a bath when in America) or if that doesn’t work, ask for directions to the donation machine or bethel souvenir shop. But if you wish to be 100% certain of attracting their attention, stand rigidly to attention, or better still, climb the wall, then point at your chosen GB victim and with trembling, outstretched arm, scream “SATAN! IT’S SATAN!” and then faint to the floor. He can’t run, because that will add belief to your accusation, and thus his only choice is to come to you, and quell your fears (or confirm them…you can never be sure after all). 👍
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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I am noticing more and more older friends having financial difficulties because of listening to every word regarding end time/employment when younger.

For me, as was the saying in my neighborhood back in the day, "I AINT PLAYING THAT". I had no intention of cleaning houses like my mom did for years. I watched her work herself crazy to take care of me and I appreciate her hard honest work. However I took a
business/secretarial course in school so when I got out I could work in an office and have a pension when I got old. Nobody told me about retirement or pension this was just the kind of kid I was. I had a mouth too. Still do but much better.

My mom was afraid to express herself too much. Another story.

Anyway I digress (it is an over 70 thing). Fast forward to being a witness back in my young working years I noticed hardly any in my cong had what I call real security jobs. They worked part time/pioneering etc., I was constantly being looked down BY SISTERS for working full time, and and not looking like somebody's grandmother because I liked to dress stylish but modest. Being single at that time with a decent job was very challenging.

Even after marriage I still worked. My mom drilled into me have an account of your own keep it to yourself. Don't totally depend on a man.

So glad I listened because so many older witnesses now have no pensions and only get a little social security.

I am also hearing a great deal of what I call whinning and complaining about how they are going through this or that. Then there are what I refer to as manipulators they know how to work the friends to do things for them. I stay away from folks like that but do help ones who really need help.

My point is lots of us have $$$ problems due to unforseen stuff from this system. Anything can happen in a mini second to alter our lifestyles. But I find it very sad when some put trust in every word of the gb who have all their needs met and not have to work as we do/did and now find themselves with no retirement/ Health benefits etc due to their sincere trust in men. Ticks me the h--- off!

I also know this system can crash at anytime and none of us older or younger will have $$$.

Just sad what I am seeing and hearing.
My rant for the day.
Can we have a “Rant for the Day” every day from you Eyes’n’Ears? We can supply the material and you give us the rant. Maybe someone can act as scorer. Or maybe we should take turns at various rants. I think the vaccine rant is getting a bit stale and we could do with something new. 👍
 

Deborah

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Thanks so much for the kind words. I just feel better sharing with folks without worrying about getting reported for apostate thinking.

It is very unhealthy to be all bottled up inside. At some point an explosion 💥 will come bursting through and that could be ugly. We see it, hear it everyday in news where someone has lost it.

Not everyone is mentally ill who lashes out. Some have just reached the bottom line of dealing with 🤪 crazy.

Then folks are shocked and say "Wow they showed no signs of that".

I have reached my limit.
I refuse to go nuts. I have been here for ages but I was just a lurking listener 😂.

Finally said well you can join in or continue to sit at home and explode.

I communicate with two sisters if they call. But that is it. I can't handle the stuff being talked about and it gets tiresome always trying to redirect stupid. Did you ever feel like a dry sponge after someone has soaked up all the energy from you. My goodness.

I am older I know that but I don't need to talk about ohhhhh this hurts that hurts we need the new system. This is hard that is hard. Good grief give it a rest.

Again I thank Jehovah for
My humor which helps my personality and outlook. I am looking forward to whatever Jehovah blesses us with in the future. But I also have to live in the here and now. I may be older 🧓 but I don't feel old nor do I have to act or look it either.

So I made a decision you need to talk, you have to talk. You know E-watchman so just click the button and let it rip.

Thank you all for the help you gave me from comments you made in your posts during my lurking days.

Hugs
 
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