The purpose of the preaching work

KingdomLeast

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So at the 2024 annual meeting, Witnesses were told by their Governing Body that they don't have all the answers, particularly regarding judgment. And have admitted that the scriptures give out hope to those outside the Watchtower walls. That those who died during the flood, (Sodom, Gomorrah and others destroyed) will be resurrected.

For 100 years the purpose of the preaching work was to save as many as possible, to bring them into the spiritual ark before the clouds of Armageddon swept them away.

So let me ask ... why are they preaching? Most importantly, what's the purpose of the preaching work?
 

Maybelle

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Originally the preaching work was to teach people about the truth of the bible, which in past times was done very well and with success
Now…it’s difficult because of the WT teaching and gaslighting. I personally wouldn’t want to bring a interested person to a KH and glorify the GB
 

MickHewitt

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Originally the preaching work was to teach people about the truth of the bible, which in past times was done very well and with success
Now…it’s difficult because of the WT teaching and gaslighting. I personally wouldn’t want to bring a interested person to a KH and glorify the GB
Yes! No Hell Fire....No Trinity! Meek shall inherit the earth and 144,000 heavenly co-rulers to rule with Christ for a thousand years!
 

Soul Sage

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So at the 2024 annual meeting, Witnesses were told by their Governing Body that they don't have all the answers, particularly regarding judgment. And have admitted that the scriptures give out hope to those outside the Watchtower walls. That those who died during the flood, (Sodom, Gomorrah and others destroyed) will be resurrected.

For 100 years the purpose of the preaching work was to save as many as possible, to bring them into the spiritual ark before the clouds of Armageddon swept them away.

So let me ask ... why are they preaching? Most importantly, what's the purpose of the preaching work?

The preaching work is a responsibility. Not everyone has the opportunity to preach though even if they have a good spiritual heart. A baby that dies prematurely never got the opportunity to exercise their faith and was never baptized. Just as the criminal that died near Jesus never had the opportunity to get baptized and exercise their faith. He will still see a resurrection. If somehow he was spared and continued to survive, I'm sure he would put his faith in action and wouldn't take it for granted and live for himself selfishly. The main point I understand is, if you aren't so self absorbed in yourself, which is a defining quality of Satan. And you give honor and glory to Jehovah you too can be saved whether baptized or not. Baptism is accepting that birth right but I know of a few that are baptized but they have become self absorbed and strayed away from the faith to appease their family or job. They have sold their birth right for stew and may have forfeited their salvation if they continue that way because they do know better but they are too concerned about how the world thinks of them.
 

Eira

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So at the 2024 annual meeting, Witnesses were told by their Governing Body that they don't have all the answers, particularly regarding judgment. And have admitted that the scriptures give out hope to those outside the Watchtower walls. That those who died during the flood, (Sodom, Gomorrah and others destroyed) will be resurrected.

For 100 years the purpose of the preaching work was to save as many as possible, to bring them into the spiritual ark before the clouds of Armageddon swept them away.

So let me ask ... why are they preaching? Most importantly, what's the purpose of the preaching work?
Ephesians 1:9,10
 

LifeLearning

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For 100 years the purpose of the preaching work was to save as many as possible, to bring them into the spiritual ark before the clouds of Armageddon swept them away.
Jesus said go and make disciples of the nations. Sowing seed of truth. Who brings them into the ark? When? Is it necessary to coerce people into the truth with artificial times and seasons? Were the apostles sent proclaiming that they were the last generation before the end?

I think some men have used the fear of god to fulfill another sort of good news. Not that there is another.
 

Jahrule

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What was the purpose of the Jewish system? It served many roles, right? Primarily, it served a purpose in God's plan leading to Christ. What is the point of God's people today? Likewise it has many layers. Not everybody will serve every role. It's a spectrum. If you have a lot more may be expected of you. Point being, it's layered. In a lot of ways, though, its a mirrored image of the past. The preaching work prepares the way for Christ's return. It'll be especially noteworthy for whatever generation just happens to be witness to Christ's actual presence. That changes everything. More will be expected out of those people, because if you screw up then you are toast.
 

KingdomLeast

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Originally the preaching work was to teach people about the truth of the bible, which in past times was done very well and with success
Now…it’s difficult because of the WT teaching and gaslighting. I personally wouldn’t want to bring a interested person to a KH and glorify the GB
Actually in the very beginning the preaching work was two fold, to give a message of hope to the world regarding what Messiah's Kingdom will do, and 2. in doing so, to help find those who would make up the body of Christ, the 144,000.
 
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LuisMerino9412

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So at the 2024 annual meeting, Witnesses were told by their Governing Body that they don't have all the answers, particularly regarding judgment. And have admitted that the scriptures give out hope to those outside the Watchtower walls. That those who died during the flood, (Sodom, Gomorrah and others destroyed) will be resurrected.

For 100 years the purpose of the preaching work was to save as many as possible, to bring them into the spiritual ark before the clouds of Armageddon swept them away.

So let me ask ... why are they preaching? Most importantly, what's the purpose of the preaching work?
The purpose of the preaching work is to gather the last remnant of the anointed and the great crowd. It is also a way of letting the world and the Universe know that there were some people preaching and warning about what will happen, so no one can say that what will happen was unfair in some way because no one warned about it. Besides, it is necessary so the world knows the truth.

Nevertheless, there are places on earth where it has been very difficult to preach and I think that maybe a lot of people still don't know anything about the truth. A lot of indigenous people from the Amazon jungle do not know anything. Not to mention a lot of people in China, Russia, the Middle East and so on. Places where Christendom has not been so powerful. So, in some way, I don't think that the idea of some people having a chance even during the last days is that crazy. Jehovah is incredibly merciful and is a God of justice. So, if some people never heard about Him or were ignorant, why would He condemn them to eternal destruction? That does not make any sense and it's even a satanic idea, similar to the hell fire of Christendom. Remember the case of Nineveh? You can also see His mercy in some way reading that the people who will die due to the coming war, pestilence and famine will have a chance in the new world.

Another thing to consider is that in the first century, not everyone got to know the truth, and virtually all that people went to Hades.
So, it seems that the main purpose of preaching now is to gather the last members of the 144.000 and the gathering of the future great crowd.

However, even if we do not know exactly what will happen in the future with a lot of things and people, we do know that at some point the door for salvation will be closed. Those outside will be doomed just like when Jehovah close the door of Noah's ark.

And what ultimately will doom people will be the mark of the beast and its worshipping. That will be the test, the hour of test. By then, everyone will know about Jehovah and Jesus and they will have to make a choice. Atheism will not exist. Jehovah or Satan. Period. Their eternal salvation or disgrace will depend on that choice. Unfortunately and sadly, most of humanity will choose Satan and his beast, not Jehovah God and Jesus. But it will be their informed and conscious choice, not something they did not know about. The Bible even says that they will never repent. Jehovah will let them show what's in their hearts. They will show no repentance even under the plagues that will scourge them.

There is something the Governing Body is right about: Jehovah God will act with justice. We just need to trust Him. And in case we see something we don't like, let us not be like Jonah or the workers described by Jesus in Matthew 20.

 
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The purpose of the preaching work is to gather the last remnant of the anointed and the great crowd. It is also a way of letting the world and the Universe know that there were some people preaching and warning about what will happen, so no one can say that what will happen was unfair in some way because no one warned about it. Besides, it is necessary so the world knows the truth.

Nevertheless, there are places on earth where it has been very difficult to preach and I think that maybe a lot of people still don't know anything about the truth. A lot of indigenous people from the Amazon jungle do not know anything. Not to mention a lot of people in China, Russia, the Middle East and so on. Places where Christendom has not been so powerful. So, in some way, I don't think that the idea of some people having a chance even during the last days is that crazy. Jehovah is incredibly merciful and is a God of justice. So, if some people never heard about Him or were ignorant, why would He condemn them to eternal destruction? That does not make any sense and it's even a satanic idea, similar to the hell fire of Christendom. Remember the case of Nineveh? You can also see His mercy in some way reading that the people who will die due to the coming war, pestilence and famine will have a chance in the new world.

Another thing to consider is that in the first century, not everyone got to know the truth, and virtually all that people went to Hades.
So, it seems that the main purpose of preaching now is to gather the last members of the 144.000 and the gathering of the future great crowd.

However, even if we do not know exactly what will happen in the future with a lot of things and people, we do know that at some point the door for salvation will be closed. Those outside will be doomed just like when Jehovah close the door of Noah's ark.

And what ultimately will doom people will be the mark of the beast and its worshipping. That will be the test, the hour of test. By then, everyone will know about Jehovah and Jesus and they will have to make a choice. Atheism will not exist. Jehovah or Satan. Period. Their eternal salvation or disgrace will depend on that choice. Unfortunately and sadly, most of humanity will choose Satan and his beast, not Jehovah God and Jesus. But it will be their informed and conscious choice, not something they did not know about. The Bible even says that they will never repent. Jehovah will let them show what's in their hearts. They will show no repentance even under the plagues that will scourge them.

There is something the Governing Body is right about: Jehovah God will act with justice. We just need to trust Him. And in case we see something we don't like, let us not be like Jonah or the workers described by Jesus in Matthew 20.

Matthew 10:23 "When they persecute you in one city, flee to another; for truly I say to you, you will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives."

There will be no way to preach the good news to everyone...I mean look how many babies are being born everyday- how will one preach to them? For those who didn't get a chance- there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.
 

Nomex

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By then, everyone will know about Jehovah and Jesus and they will have to make a choice.
I have a slightly different take on this. Let me set it up by pointing out, Revelation says when the beast the comes out of the abyss it will be able to perform great signs etc...one of the things WT is missing is that the anointed remnant likewise will perform "powerful signs", which makes a lot more sense than WT's stupidity. So, I think it will be more like, they won't have a legitimate claim that they don't "know Jehovah" but like Ezekiel says over and over again, "they will have to know that I am Jehovah."

But certain people like these blue and purple haired freaks, the same people saying a man can get pregnant, and the "leaders" of this system, they will still deny Jehovah and Jesus in the same way that Peter did, except they won't be able to repent, primarily because they won't want to, but also because they don't actually know God and Jesus the way Peter did, and won't deny him for the same reason. Like Jesus said to Peter about knowing/believing he was the Messiah, "Jehovah revealed it to them." Rather, these people would rather die they admit they are wrong/humble themselves. And in that way they are truly, 'from their father the devil"
 

MickHewitt

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Yes! No Hell Fire....No Trinity! Meek shall inherit the earth and 144,000 heavenly co-rulers to rule with Christ for a thousand years!
Thanks for the abilty to repent: It's all about repentance: Rev3:19 'All those for whom I have affection I reprove and discipline so be zealous and repent'...The Revelation uses the word nine times!Rev...2:5...2:16...2:21 2:22....3:3...3:19...9:20...16:9...16:11....Much opportunity for turn around!??
 
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Thanks for the abilty to repent: It's all about repentance: Rev3:19 'All those for whom I have affection I reprove and discipline so be zealous and repent'...The Revelation uses the word nine times!Rev...2:5...2:16...2:21 2:22....3:3...3:19...9:20...16:9...16:11....Much opportunity for turn around!??
Depends on the heart condition, thoughts, and actions of the one repenting.

1. Do we love Jehovah enough in our hearts to give us motivation to repent?

2. Is our thoughts on saving our own skin when it is at stake or true repentence out of love for Jehovah?

3. Do we take actions and preventitive actions to make sure we don't make the same mistake again?
 

MickHewitt

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Is our thoughts on saving our own skin when it is at stake or true repentence out of love for Jehovah?
I'm blessed by Jehovah to have had many times of saving my skin to make believe of my repentant intentions! Otherwise no! In honesty It was a ploy to give ability of time to sin again! This is what Jah sees when looking down upon us Ps 53:2,3 "But God looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see whether anyone has insight, whether anyone is seeking Jehovah....They have all turned away they are all alike, corrupt, No one is doing good not even one" Here is another truth Rom2:1 "Therefore you are inexcusable O man who ever you are if you judge for when you judge another you condemn yourself because you who judge practise the same things".Take heart though....Mtt 19:25,26 'Who can be saved then?; Christ replied with men this is impossible but with God all things are possible".Matt 7:8 Let's keep knocking the hinges of His door! Christ told the Samaritan woman at the well that there would come a time when we would worship in 'spirit and truth'. Asynchronous within Watchtower. Wonder how Jah feels looking down on the congregations? 2Thess2:12 "In order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness" What keeps them there? Is it showing off infront of other believers in how much time they spend in the ministry? Looking for a thumbs up from man other than Jehovah? Remember brothers it's not the thumbs up from each other that counts rather than seeking absolution from man we seek the thumbs up from Jehovah and Christ.
 
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LuisMerino9412

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I have a slightly different take on this. Let me set it up by pointing out, Revelation says when the beast the comes out of the abyss it will be able to perform great signs etc...one of the things WT is missing is that the anointed remnant likewise will perform "powerful signs", which makes a lot more sense than WT's stupidity. So, I think it will be more like, they won't have a legitimate claim that they don't "know Jehovah" but like Ezekiel says over and over again, "they will have to know that I am Jehovah."

But certain people like these blue and purple haired freaks, the same people saying a man can get pregnant, and the "leaders" of this system, they will still deny Jehovah and Jesus in the same way that Peter did, except they won't be able to repent, primarily because they won't want to, but also because they don't actually know God and Jesus the way Peter did, and won't deny him for the same reason. Like Jesus said to Peter about knowing/believing he was the Messiah, "Jehovah revealed it to them." Rather, these people would rather die they admit they are wrong/humble themselves. And in that way they are truly, 'from their father the devil"
I do think they will know who Jehovah and Jesus are. At least the basic truth. But what you say is true. They might want not to know anything about Jehovah and Jesus. What I'm trying to say is that those who will go the eternal destruction will have made a choice and that choice could be rejecting Jehovah and Jesus by not wanting to know anything about them even after knowing who they truly are. Something similar to what happened with the Egyptian Pharaoh. He knew who Jehovah was to a certain point, and saw the plagues, but decided not to change. He was incredibly stubborn. That might be a pattern for the future.
Nevertheless, what will seal their doom will be receiving the mark of the beast. That will be irreversible.
I think that when the door is closed, all those outside the "ark" will accept the mark of the beast. There will be nothing impelling them to do the contrary. They will be Satan's pawns just like the Israelites when they rejected Jesus after having called Him their king. That might be a pattern for a lot of people who are part of Christendom and maybe even for some jws. For Christendom, what might happen is that when they truly know who Jesus and Jehovah are and what they will do, they might reject them. They might feel they were mislead. (This is something mentioned in the letter written by Albert Pike about WWIII). Not to mention that Satan will perform great signs and wonders and will mislead the world to make them believe that Jehovah and Jesus are evil, that they want to destroy the world, and that they must fight on their side to avoid that. That's something that could definitely happen. And that opposition and fight is what will lead the world to Armageddon and what the 2nd Psalm speaks about.
Remember that Satan thinks he still has a chance of misleading the chosen ones and make them unfaithful after their sealing. In that way, he might think that he still has the chance of coming out victorious of all this.
 
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MickHewitt

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I'm blessed by Jehovah to have had many times of saving my skin to make believe of my repentant intentions! Otherwise no! In honesty It was a ploy to give ability of time to sin again! This is what Jah sees when looking down upon us Ps 53:2,3 "But God looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see whether anyone has insight, whether anyone is seeking Jehovah....They have all turned away they are all alike, corrupt, No one is doing good not even one" Here is another truth Rom2:1 "Therefore you are inexcusable O man who ever you are if you judge for when you judge another you condemn yourself because you who judge practise the same things".Take heart though....Mtt 19:25,26 'Who can be saved then?; Christ replied with men this is impossible but with God all things are possible".Matt 7:8 Let's keep knocking the hinges of His door! Christ told the Samaritan woman at the well that there would come a time when we would worship in 'spirit and truth'. Asynchronous within Watchtower. Wonder how Jah feels looking down on the congregations? 2Thess2:12 "In order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness" What keeps them there? Is it showing off infront of other believers in how much time they spend in the ministry? Looking for a thumbs up from man other than Jehovah? Remember brothers it's not the thumbs up from each other that counts rather than seeking absolution from man we seek the thumbs up from Jehovah and Christ.
One of our residents who requires 2 visits from district nurses and carers to facilitate life have not been able to carry out their care...why? The intercom has broken disallowing entering! The resident's outcome? Sadly death!
 

KingdomLeast

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The purpose of the preaching work is to gather the last remnant of the anointed and the great crowd.
I agree regarding the "last remnant of the anointed", don't agree regarding "the great crowd", but we can agree to disagree.
It is also a way of letting the world and the Universe know that there were some people preaching and warning about what will happen, so no one can say that what will happen was unfair in some way because no one warned about it. Besides, it is necessary so the world knows the truth.
That's what the Millennial reign is for
 
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