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Thursday, January 8 2025​

Keep conquering the evil with the good.—Rom. 12:21.

Jesus told an illustration about a widow who kept asking a judge to give her justice. No doubt that story resonated with many of Jesus’ disciples because in his day the common people were often victims of injustice. (Luke 18:1-5) The story is also meaningful to us because we have all experienced injustice at one time or another. In the world today, prejudice, inequality, and oppression are common, so we are not surprised when we are treated unfairly. (Eccl. 5:8) What we might not expect, though, is to be misjudged by a brother or a sister; yet, that can happen. Of course, our brothers and sisters are not opposers of the truth. They are simply imperfect. We can learn much from how Jesus reacted to injustices from wicked opposers. If we can be patient with opposers who treat us unjustly, how much more so should we be patient with our fellow believers! w24.11 2 ¶1-2
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Comment: You make mention of the Society covering up child abuse, the fact is, in Corinth the congregation was in a poor state spiritually, including sexual immorality. It is likely the elders in that congregation were part of a cover up. In Revelation it mentions 7 letters & seven lampstands meaning the world wide congregation. Not all of the words in the seven letters were complimentary. When we leave after our meeting to go home, it is fair to say that many come home to broken homes, but it is also fair to say many come home to happy families. The arrangement is perfect but the people are not.. King David realized this when he regretted cutting the sleeve of King Saul, God’s anointed one. David could not respect the bad things Saul did but David nonetheless respected God’s arrangement.




Response: There is no explicit question here, but there is certainly an implied one, which I will address.

First, the very fact that Paul directly addressed the deplorable situation within the Corinthian Congregation and that his exposure of it remains to this day in the collection of sacred little books is directly counter to the Watchtower’s hush-hush policy when it comes to pedophiles among Jehovah’s Witnesses. It is quite telling that Paul did not shrink from confronting the evil by claiming that doing so would bring reproach on Jehovah or go against his arrangement.

That being so, a question you might consider is this: If the apostle were alive today would he refrain from condemning the Watchtower’s policies that have directly contributed to allowing pedophiles to abuse children?

After all, the sexual immorality that Paul exposed was at least between consenting adults. Should we imagine the apostles of Christ would commend an organization that maintains a secret database of over 20,000 known child abusers, and which instructs its elders not to cooperate with the police or courts when it comes to investigating and prosecuting crimes that have been perpetrated by Jehovah’s Witnesses against innocent children?

An even better question to ponder is, ought we to imagine that Jehovah is pleased with such policies on the part of those who have been entrusted with God’s precious sheep?

Here is something else to consider: Is it really just a matter of human imperfection when intelligent men sit around a boardroom table and formulate and enforce policies over years and years, which are known by them to be harmful? Is it really honest to dismiss such wickedness as mere human imperfection? And if the Society’s policies are not evil why do they secretly pay out millions in donated funds to abuse victims?

And while it is nice that some of Jehovah’s Witnesses leave the kingdom hall and return home to happy families, what about the thousands of families that have been devastated by child abuse perpetrated by predators lurking within the congregation? What about all of those who have been stumbled by the Watchtower’s wicked doings? Does Jehovah care at all? Is there to be a day of reckoning?

The prophet declares: “Woe to those who are enacting harmful regulations.” Jehovah did not say: ‘Woe to those who make an occasional mistake and who are imperfect.’ Woe, indeed, for the Watchtower Society.

Now as for Jesus’ letters to the seven congregations: Jesus actually commended those in Ephesus who refused to accept the claims of apostleship of certain men, saying to them: “I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot bear bad men, and that you put those to the test who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them liars.”

Please note that Jesus did not say that the liars were merely imperfect. He described them as “bad men.” Now, here are a few other questions to consider: If Jesus commends those who cannot bear bad men and who impose a test upon those who claim to be apostles, why do Jehovah’s Witnesses imagine that putting the Governing Body to the test is some great evil? Why ought the leadership of the organization be exempt from proving they are true? And since those who falsely claim to be apostles are within the congregation of Christ, is it going against the “arrangement” to refuse to accept evil men within? Moreover, why do Jehovah’s Witnesses reflexively denounce as “apostate” anyone who exposes the Watchtower’s lies, such as I have done?

The day is coming when all of Jehovah’s Witnesses will individually have their love of the truth put to the test. It will be unavoidable.

August 4th, 2013
 
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Comment: You make mention of the Society covering up child abuse, the fact is, in Corinth the congregation was in a poor state spiritually, including sexual immorality. It is likely the elders in that congregation were part of a cover up. In Revelation it mentions 7 letters & seven lampstands meaning the world wide congregation. Not all of the words in the seven letters were complimentary. When we leave after our meeting to go home, it is fair to say that many come home to broken homes, but it is also fair to say many come home to happy families. The arrangement is perfect but the people are not.. King David realized this when he regretted cutting the sleeve of King Saul, God’s anointed one. David could not respect the bad things Saul did but David nonetheless respected God’s arrangement.




Response: There is no explicit question here, but there is certainly an implied one, which I will address.

First, the very fact that Paul directly addressed the deplorable situation within the Corinthian Congregation and that his exposure of it remains to this day in the collection of sacred little books is directly counter to the Watchtower’s hush-hush policy when it comes to pedophiles among Jehovah’s Witnesses. It is quite telling that Paul did not shrink from confronting the evil by claiming that doing so would bring reproach on Jehovah or go against his arrangement.

That being so, a question you might consider is this: If the apostle were alive today would he refrain from condemning the Watchtower’s policies that have directly contributed to allowing pedophiles to abuse children?

After all, the sexual immorality that Paul exposed was at least between consenting adults. Should we imagine the apostles of Christ would commend an organization that maintains a secret database of over 20,000 known child abusers, and which instructs its elders not to cooperate with the police or courts when it comes to investigating and prosecuting crimes that have been perpetrated by Jehovah’s Witnesses against innocent children?

An even better question to ponder is, ought we to imagine that Jehovah is pleased with such policies on the part of those who have been entrusted with God’s precious sheep?

Here is something else to consider: Is it really just a matter of human imperfection when intelligent men sit around a boardroom table and formulate and enforce policies over years and years, which are known by them to be harmful? Is it really honest to dismiss such wickedness as mere human imperfection? And if the Society’s policies are not evil why do they secretly pay out millions in donated funds to abuse victims?

And while it is nice that some of Jehovah’s Witnesses leave the kingdom hall and return home to happy families, what about the thousands of families that have been devastated by child abuse perpetrated by predators lurking within the congregation? What about all of those who have been stumbled by the Watchtower’s wicked doings? Does Jehovah care at all? Is there to be a day of reckoning?

The prophet declares: “Woe to those who are enacting harmful regulations.” Jehovah did not say: ‘Woe to those who make an occasional mistake and who are imperfect.’ Woe, indeed, for the Watchtower Society.

Now as for Jesus’ letters to the seven congregations: Jesus actually commended those in Ephesus who refused to accept the claims of apostleship of certain men, saying to them: “I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot bear bad men, and that you put those to the test who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them liars.”

Please note that Jesus did not say that the liars were merely imperfect. He described them as “bad men.” Now, here are a few other questions to consider: If Jesus commends those who cannot bear bad men and who impose a test upon those who claim to be apostles, why do Jehovah’s Witnesses imagine that putting the Governing Body to the test is some great evil? Why ought the leadership of the organization be exempt from proving they are true? And since those who falsely claim to be apostles are within the congregation of Christ, is it going against the “arrangement” to refuse to accept evil men within? Moreover, why do Jehovah’s Witnesses reflexively denounce as “apostate” anyone who exposes the Watchtower’s lies, such as I have done?

The day is coming when all of Jehovah’s Witnesses will individually have their love of the truth put to the test. It will be unavoidable.

August 4th, 2013
Beautifully argued in 2013 and still relevant today!
 
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Comment: You make mention of the Society covering up child abuse, the fact is, in Corinth the congregation was in a poor state spiritually, including sexual immorality. It is likely the elders in that congregation were part of a cover up. In Revelation it mentions 7 letters & seven lampstands meaning the world wide congregation. Not all of the words in the seven letters were complimentary. When we leave after our meeting to go home, it is fair to say that many come home to broken homes, but it is also fair to say many come home to happy families. The arrangement is perfect but the people are not.. King David realized this when he regretted cutting the sleeve of King Saul, God’s anointed one. David could not respect the bad things Saul did but David nonetheless respected God’s arrangement.




Response: There is no explicit question here, but there is certainly an implied one, which I will address.

First, the very fact that Paul directly addressed the deplorable situation within the Corinthian Congregation and that his exposure of it remains to this day in the collection of sacred little books is directly counter to the Watchtower’s hush-hush policy when it comes to pedophiles among Jehovah’s Witnesses. It is quite telling that Paul did not shrink from confronting the evil by claiming that doing so would bring reproach on Jehovah or go against his arrangement.

That being so, a question you might consider is this: If the apostle were alive today would he refrain from condemning the Watchtower’s policies that have directly contributed to allowing pedophiles to abuse children?

After all, the sexual immorality that Paul exposed was at least between consenting adults. Should we imagine the apostles of Christ would commend an organization that maintains a secret database of over 20,000 known child abusers, and which instructs its elders not to cooperate with the police or courts when it comes to investigating and prosecuting crimes that have been perpetrated by Jehovah’s Witnesses against innocent children?

An even better question to ponder is, ought we to imagine that Jehovah is pleased with such policies on the part of those who have been entrusted with God’s precious sheep?

Here is something else to consider: Is it really just a matter of human imperfection when intelligent men sit around a boardroom table and formulate and enforce policies over years and years, which are known by them to be harmful? Is it really honest to dismiss such wickedness as mere human imperfection? And if the Society’s policies are not evil why do they secretly pay out millions in donated funds to abuse victims?

And while it is nice that some of Jehovah’s Witnesses leave the kingdom hall and return home to happy families, what about the thousands of families that have been devastated by child abuse perpetrated by predators lurking within the congregation? What about all of those who have been stumbled by the Watchtower’s wicked doings? Does Jehovah care at all? Is there to be a day of reckoning?

The prophet declares: “Woe to those who are enacting harmful regulations.” Jehovah did not say: ‘Woe to those who make an occasional mistake and who are imperfect.’ Woe, indeed, for the Watchtower Society.

Now as for Jesus’ letters to the seven congregations: Jesus actually commended those in Ephesus who refused to accept the claims of apostleship of certain men, saying to them: “I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot bear bad men, and that you put those to the test who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them liars.”

Please note that Jesus did not say that the liars were merely imperfect. He described them as “bad men.” Now, here are a few other questions to consider: If Jesus commends those who cannot bear bad men and who impose a test upon those who claim to be apostles, why do Jehovah’s Witnesses imagine that putting the Governing Body to the test is some great evil? Why ought the leadership of the organization be exempt from proving they are true? And since those who falsely claim to be apostles are within the congregation of Christ, is it going against the “arrangement” to refuse to accept evil men within? Moreover, why do Jehovah’s Witnesses reflexively denounce as “apostate” anyone who exposes the Watchtower’s lies, such as I have done?

The day is coming when all of Jehovah’s Witnesses will individually have their love of the truth put to the test. It will be unavoidable.

August 4th, 2013
Excellent point made in the commentary that every Christian witness of Jehovah has a responsibility to hold accountable the shepherds, to put them to the test in all matters.

Instead, the sheep have been cowed into thinking testing means being a Korah and subject to his punishment. I just read John 10:1-18. It is my responsibility to make sure I am listening to the voice I recognize and not some thief or plunderer.

WTBTS shareholders, Governing Body members, congregation elders and members - where is your godly courage on this matter? It is absent. I do not recognize your voices.
 
I also believe Watchtower to be the sanctuary of Jehovah and Christ on earth Dan11:31
A sanctuary complicit in Murder ,Hmm I wonder how that works, oh I know I guess we'll just have to change the the definition of sanctuary.

definition of sanctuary...
AI Overview
A sanctuary is
a sacred place for worship (like a church's altar area) or, more broadly, any place offering safety, refuge, or protection, such as a wildlife habitat, a political haven, or even a personal quiet space for peace and contemplation. Originating from the Latin sanctuarium (holy place), the term evolved from religious holy sites to encompass any location where individuals or animals are sheltered from danger, harm, or the outside world, providing a sense of security and serenity.
 
A sanctuary complicit in Murder ,Hmm I wonder how that works, oh I know I guess we'll just have to change the the definition of sanctuary.

definition of sanctuary...
AI Overview
A sanctuary is
a sacred place for worship (like a church's altar area) or, more broadly, any place offering safety, refuge, or protection, such as a wildlife habitat, a political haven, or even a personal quiet space for peace and contemplation. Originating from the Latin sanctuarium (holy place), the term evolved from religious holy sites to encompass any location where individuals or animals are sheltered from danger, harm, or the outside world, providing a sense of security and serenity.
I know Kevin.....But guess you'll have to take it up with Daniel. Chortle.....The disgusting thing that destroyed Jerusalem was the Roman army and look how resemblant Jerusalem was to Watchtower in that they have taken on the name of Jehovah and just as Christ warned the true religion back then of their sin soon Christ will return and judge the house of God which can be no where else than the house that taught us His Name......Also explained the new covenant.
 
I know Kevin.....But guess you'll have to take it up with Daniel. Chortle.....The disgusting thing that destroyed Jerusalem was the Roman army and look how resemblant Jerusalem was to Watchtower in that they have taken on the name of Jehovah and just as Christ warned the true religion back then of their sin soon Christ will return and judge the house of God which can be no where else than the house that taught us His Name......Also explained the new covenant.
You know they were others who used Jehovah's name way before the Watchtower came along.

AI Overview

While the
New World Translation (NWT) by Jehovah's Witnesses famously uses "Jehovah" extensively, the American Standard Version (ASV) of 1901 was a prominent English Bible that first used "Jehovah" in thousands of places in the Old Testament, a practice continued by the NWT, though earlier translations like William Tyndale's Pentateuch (1530) introduced the name "Iehouah".
Key Bibles Using "Jehovah":
  • William Tyndale's Pentateuch (1530): First to use "Iehouah" in an English Bible, adapting it from Latin sources.
  • American Standard Version (1901): Restored "Jehovah" in the Old Testament (around 7,000 times), following scholarly trends.
  • New World Translation (NWT) (1961 onwards): Jehovah's Witnesses' own translation, which uses "Jehovah" throughout both the Old and New Testaments, a distinctive feature.
In Summary:
The concept of "Jehovah" in English Bibles predates Jehovah's Witnesses, but the American Standard Version (1901) significantly popularized its use in the Old Testament, a tradition later adopted and expanded by the Witnesses in their New World Translation (NWT), making it the most recognized Bible for its consistent use of the name.
 
You know they were others who used Jehovah's name way before the Watchtower came along.

AI Overview

While the
New World Translation (NWT) by Jehovah's Witnesses famously uses "Jehovah" extensively, the American Standard Version (ASV) of 1901 was a prominent English Bible that first used "Jehovah" in thousands of places in the Old Testament, a practice continued by the NWT, though earlier translations like William Tyndale's Pentateuch (1530) introduced the name "Iehouah".
Key Bibles Using "Jehovah":
  • William Tyndale's Pentateuch (1530): First to use "Iehouah" in an English Bible, adapting it from Latin sources.
  • American Standard Version (1901): Restored "Jehovah" in the Old Testament (around 7,000 times), following scholarly trends.
  • New World Translation (NWT) (1961 onwards): Jehovah's Witnesses' own translation, which uses "Jehovah" throughout both the Old and New Testaments, a distinctive feature.
In Summary:
The concept of "Jehovah" in English Bibles predates Jehovah's Witnesses, but the American Standard Version (1901) significantly popularized its use in the Old Testament, a tradition later adopted and expanded by the Witnesses in their New World Translation (NWT), making it the most recognized Bible for its consistent use of the name.
I know we are hurt by the way they have misrepresented the Father that blessed them with the spirit to educate the world to scripture. Yes they got prophesy wrong but the relationship of Christ to his Father. Blessed us greatly in knowledge. Especially the teaching of the new covenant...…..Jerusalem above! Just think of the pharisaic nonsense isn't that a perfect parallel to our Bethel taught elders? No Kev we will just have to lovingly disagree on this brother to me Watchtower is the Daughter of Jerusalem.
 
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I know we are hurt by the way they have misrepresented the Father that blessed them with the spirit to educate the world to scripture. Yes they got prophesy wrong but the relationship of Christ to his Father. Blessed us greatly in knowledge. Especially the teaching of the new covenant...…..Jerusalem above! Just think of the pharisaic nonsense isn't that a perfect parallel to our Bethel taught elders? No Kev we will just have to lovingly disagree on this brother to me Watchtower is the Daughter of Jerusalem.
Do you not recognise the resemblance of Isa28:12-15 With WTBTS? "He once told them: "This is the resting-place, Let the weary one rest; this is the place of refreshment,' but they refused to listen.....So to them the word of Jehovah will be: 'Command after command, command after command. Line by line, line by line. A little here and a little there. So that when they walk they will stumble and fall backward...So hear you rulers of this people in Jerusalem you men that say 'We have made a covenant with Death. And with the grave we have made agreement..When the raging flood passes through it will not reach us for we have made a lie our refuge and we have hidden ourselves in falsehood!"'"
 
Just for the record, I believe the Watchtower is Jehovah's organization. Does that make me a fellow believer? ;)
Yes and no. Yes in that Jehovah has had a use for watchtower and which I view as the preaching work, but also that the preaching work is a two edged sword and that those within it, are there as a latter-day picture reflecting the same issues of loyalty, or lack of it, as did Jehovah’s people in earlier times - frequently.

This association with knowledge of the issues appears a reasonable point of debate in these days as shown by the recent discussions upon it clarifying that it is increasingly so, a matter of conscience for a multiplicity of reasons. Three reasons are prominent in my mind. 1/ guilt by association. 2/ degrees of conscience. 3/ Purpose.

This brings into question whether it is the leaders of watchtower that are culpable. Clearly some must be. Yet the outcome to Jehovah’s glory can only be seen by those that stay loyal and see through the veil. But if that is the mark of loyalty, then that too suggests that leaving at anytime has its merits in wisdom when such depravities are evident within. Indeed, it is the singular item that legitimises your site as a provision - and a provision that reveals the evils going on within watchtower that gives people a reason to stand up and be counted and indeed, inspires them to leave watchtower through what they have learnt. Therefore if these things are known, then leaving is an outcome for some at this time.

Therefore, the watchtower must have other uses if it is to be publicly known, judged and found wanting by Jehovah, and it appears clear from what I have learnt here, that such a use is a display of Jehovah’s position as the Creator. It is only right, and thematically right, that there is in this day a deliverance of those seeking Jehovah and a display of Jehovah’s consistency of deliverance of His people throughout history.

Each one of those episodes of deliverance has been subject to a division of those in obedience to the Word and those who are not. And so a repetition of such in this day follows that theme to magnify the issues that are under debate. And history shows that there is a time given to exclude one’s self from the company of wrongdoers and the apathetic. Whether that is a matter of conscience or left to a blatant revelation is surely a matter of perception and faith as has been argued. I do not feel that one can deny another their choice in the matter as they have the same end, but clearly, history points to the fact that some will leave it too late.

So why would someone wish to own their allegiance to a dying and corrupt organisation longer than is necessary to maintain their conscience clean with Jehovah? Thus there is also the requirement that we view the issue of ownership. Clearly the watchtower has a purpose to magnify Jehovah’s name and that is from two angles - loyalty and treachery, but there is another from humanities angle and that is our own thinking in the matter and our frailties and understanding in faith of attachment and meaning. This only becomes clear when one has “left”. But one cannot abandon “meaning” to one’s self, anymore than anyone can “abandon” the meaning of prophesy that informs one’s self.

Therefore watchtower is a product of our time and our time is one that belongs to Jehovah. Everything in this world has relevance to Jehovah at this prophetic time. What we must do is to make ourselves relevant to Jehovah, each according to their understanding within what is required of us by Jehovah. Personally, I feel it more correct to call watchtower, Jehovah’s “purpose” for this time as that leaves personal choice, personal, and less open to the consciences of others to dictate. It leans upon understanding of the Word, rather than suggest ownership howsoever that is felt personally. It allows for others to make up their mind through faith and understanding that is personally felt rather than from an instruction that causes division.
 
I know we are hurt by the way they have misrepresented the Father that blessed them with the spirit to educate the world to scripture. Yes they got prophesy wrong but the relationship of Christ to his Father. Blessed us greatly in knowledge. Especially the teaching of the new covenant...…..Jerusalem above! Just think of the pharisaic nonsense isn't that a perfect parallel to our Bethel taught elders? No Kev we will just have to lovingly disagree on this brother to me Watchtower is the Daughter of Jerusalem.
You got me all wrong I wasn't disagreeing with you...however I do believe the Watchtower tract Society are nothing more than men of lawlessness from their Inception as the Apostle Paul had foretold and the evidence points to just that unless the Apostle Paul was lying!.
 
Do you not recognise the resemblance of Isa28:12-15 With WTBTS? "He once told them: "This is the resting-place, Let the weary one rest; this is the place of refreshment,' but they refused to listen.....So to them the word of Jehovah will be: 'Command after command, command after command. Line by line, line by line. A little here and a little there. So that when they walk they will stumble and fall backward...So hear you rulers of this people in Jerusalem you men that say 'We have made a covenant with Death. And with the grave we have made agreement..When the raging flood passes through it will not reach us for we have made a lie our refuge and we have hidden ourselves in falsehood!"'"
It's all good let's just forget about it later man...
 
You got me all wrong I wasn't disagreeing with you...however I do believe the Watchtower tract Society are nothing more than men of lawlessness from their Inception as the Apostle Paul had foretold and the evidence points to just that unless the Apostle Paul was lying!.
Oh! great thanks for putting me straight
 
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Comentario: Mencionas que la Sociedad encubrió el abuso infantil. Lo cierto es que en Corinto la congregación se encontraba en un estado espiritual precario, incluyendo inmoralidad sexual. Es probable que los ancianos de esa congregación participaran en un encubrimiento. En Apocalipsis se mencionan siete letras y siete candeleros, que se refieren a la congregación mundial. No todas las palabras de las siete letras eran elogiosas. Al regresar a casa después de la reunión, es justo decir que muchos regresan a hogares deshechos, pero también es justo decir que muchos regresan a familias felices. El arreglo es perfecto, pero la gente no lo es. El rey David se dio cuenta de esto cuando se arrepintió de haberle cortado la manga al rey Saúl, el ungido de Dios. David no podía respetar las malas acciones de Saúl, pero aun así respetó el arreglo de Dios.




Respuesta: No hay aquí ninguna pregunta explícita, pero ciertamente hay una implícita, que abordaré.

En primer lugar, el hecho mismo de que Pablo abordara directamente la deplorable situación de la Congregación de Corinto y que su exposición al respecto persista hasta el día de hoy en la colección de libritos sagrados contradice directamente la política de sigilo de la Watchtower en lo que respecta a los pedófilos entre los testigos de Jehová. Es muy revelador que Pablo no rehuyera confrontar el mal, alegando que hacerlo traería oprobio a Jehová o iría en contra de su disposición.

Siendo así, una pregunta que usted podría considerar es esta: Si el apóstol estuviera vivo hoy, ¿se abstendría de condenar las políticas de la Watchtower que han contribuido directamente a permitir que los pedófilos abusen de niños?

Después de todo, la inmoralidad sexual que Pablo expuso se cometió al menos entre adultos que consintieron. ¿Deberíamos imaginar que los apóstoles de Cristo elogiarían a una organización que mantiene una base de datos secreta de más de 20.000 abusadores de menores conocidos y que instruye a sus ancianos a no cooperar con la policía ni los tribunales en la investigación y el procesamiento de delitos perpetrados por testigos de Jehová contra niños inocentes?

Una pregunta aún mejor para reflexionar es: ¿deberíamos imaginar que Jehová se complace con tales políticas por parte de aquellos a quienes se les han confiado las preciosas ovejas de Dios?

Aquí hay algo más que considerar: ¿Es realmente solo cuestión de imperfección humana que hombres inteligentes se sienten en una sala de juntas y formulen e implementen políticas durante años, las cuales saben que son perjudiciales? ¿Es realmente honesto descartar tal maldad como mera imperfección humana? Y si las políticas de la Sociedad no son malvadas, ¿por qué pagan en secreto millones de dólares en fondos donados a las víctimas de abuso?

Y aunque es agradable que algunos testigos de Jehová abandonen el Salón del Reino y regresen a casa con familias felices, ¿qué pasa con las miles de familias devastadas por el abuso infantil perpetrado por depredadores que acechan dentro de la congregación? ¿Qué pasa con todos aquellos que han sido perjudicados por las malas acciones de la Watchtower? ¿Le importa a Jehová? ¿Habrá un día de ajuste de cuentas?

El profeta declara: “¡Ay de quienes promulgan normas perjudiciales!”. Jehová no dijo: “¡Ay de quienes cometen errores ocasionales y son imperfectos!”. ¡Ay, en efecto, de la Sociedad Watchtower!

Ahora bien, en cuanto a las cartas de Jesús a las siete congregaciones: Jesús en realidad elogió a aquellos en Éfeso que se negaron a aceptar las afirmaciones de apostolado de ciertos hombres, diciéndoles: “Conozco tus obras, tu trabajo y tu paciencia, y que no puedes soportar a los malos, y que pones a prueba a los que dicen ser apóstoles, pero no lo son, y los hallaste mentirosos”.

Tengan en cuenta que Jesús no dijo que los mentirosos fueran simplemente imperfectos. Los describió como "hombres malos". Ahora bien, aquí hay algunas otras preguntas para considerar: Si Jesús elogia a quienes no soportan a los hombres malos y que imponen una prueba a quienes dicen ser apóstoles, ¿por qué los testigos de Jehová imaginan que poner a prueba al Cuerpo Gobernante es una gran maldad? ¿Por qué los líderes de la organización deberían estar exentos de probar su veracidad? Y dado que quienes falsamente dicen ser apóstoles pertenecen a la congregación de Cristo, ¿va en contra del "arreglo" negarse a aceptar a hombres malos dentro? Además, ¿por qué los testigos de Jehová denuncian reflexivamente como "apóstata" a cualquiera que exponga las mentiras de la Watchtower, como yo lo he hecho?

Se acerca el día en que el amor a la verdad de todos los testigos de Jehová se pondrá a prueba individualmente. Será inevitable.

4 de agosto de 2013
¿Cuantas veces Jehová habrá visto a un depravado subirse a una plataforma a dar un discurso? Cuando todos sean llamados a juicio Jehová tendrá más de dos testigos para poder demostrar las cosas.
Al hombre se le olvida con demasiada frecuencia que desde ahí arriba lo ven TODO. Tenemos testigos de sobra. ¡Hasta los ángeles se prestarían como testigos de lo que han visto si pudieran!
 
¿Cuantas veces Jehová habrá visto a un depravado subirse a una plataforma a dar un discurso? Cuando todos sean llamados a juicio Jehová tendrá más de dos testigos para poder demostrar las cosas.
Al hombre se le olvida con demasiada frecuencia que desde ahí arriba lo ven TODO. Tenemos testigos de sobra. ¡Hasta los ángeles se prestarían como testigos de lo que han visto si pudieran!
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How many times must Jehovah have seen a depraved man get up on a platform to give a speech? When everyone is called to judgment, Jehovah will have more than two witnesses to prove things.Man too often forgets that from up there, they see EVERYTHING. We have witnesses aplenty. Even the angels would offer themselves as witnesses of what they have seen if they could!
 
A sanctuary complicit in Murder ,Hmm I wonder how that works, oh I know I guess we'll just have to change the the definition of sanctuary.
Will you be disappointed if Jehovah forgives them? Just to put things in perspective, King David was guilty of murder. So was the apostle Paul. Jehovah forgave them both.
 
Will you be disappointed if Jehovah forgives them? Just to put things in perspective, King David was guilty of murder. So was the apostle Paul. Jehovah forgave them both.
I was waiting for somebody to put those facts together as I realized it about a year a go -in essence it kind of closes or shuts down a lot of arguments ...just wait to Bible love gets a hold of those facts.
 
Will you be disappointed if Jehovah forgives them? Just to put things in perspective, King David was guilty of murder. So was the apostle Paul. Jehovah forgave them both.
To answer your question "no I am not disappointed in fact I'm kind of relieved because I have a new understanding of the matter in which I've been begging Jehovah for.
 
To answer your question "no I am not disappointed in fact I'm kind of relieved because I have a new understanding of the matter in which I've been begging Jehovah for.
Forgiveness is contingent upon confession and repentance. According to a Governing Body member at an Annual Meeting a couple of years ago, the GB will never feel embarrassed or need to apologise for getting anything wrong. So, with that attitude, it ain't looking too good for them.
 
Will you be disappointed if Jehovah forgives them? Just to put things in perspective, King David was guilty of murder. So was the apostle Paul. Jehovah forgave them both.
Robert " you have to keep in mind the Apostle Paul was very zealous and thought he was doing the right thing but as for King David I really don't know what to say there, but here's what I do know about the man of lawlessness / Watchtower "because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness, so if they took pleasure in unrighteousness they obviously knew they were doing wrong, where the Apostle Paul and King David did not take pleasure.

The Second to the Thessalonians 2

11 That is why God lets a deceptive influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie,+ 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
Forgiveness is contingent upon confession and repentance. According to a Governing Body member at an Annual Meeting a couple of years ago, the GB will never feel embarrassed or need to apologise for getting anything wrong. So, with that attitude, it ain't looking too good for them.
I agree with your sentiment.
 
Robert " you have to keep in mind the Apostle Paul was very zealous and thought he was doing the right thing but as for King David I really don't know what to say there, but here's what I do know about the man of lawlessness / Watchtower "because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness, so if they took pleasure in unrighteousness they obviously knew they were doing wrong, where the Apostle Paul and King David did not take pleasure.

The Second to the Thessalonians 2

11 That is why God lets a deceptive influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie,+ 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
Those who believe "the lie" is not the man of lawlessness. It is everyone who believes Christ has already come and the Lord's day is here. That's pretty much all JWs
 
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