Trump Assassination

[Jahrule]

Leftist are openly calling for Trump to be murdered in the name of national security. This is something I've been contemplating for a while now. When they are saying peace and security instant destruction comes upon them like birth pangs. The book of Daniel talks about this "time of security" many will be destroyed. The question we have to ask is what does security mean. It's a broad term. Security could mean physical security, financial security, emotional security. Essentially though, it revolves around protection from harm, danger, loss, etc.

What about the birth pains? What could scripture be referring to? What is it that is being birthed? It could be seen as the beginning of God's kingdom, and I suspect that is partially true. However, I think what it is referring to is the 8th king. We know this system will collapse. Then in its place a new tyrannical Government springs from the 7th. It gives birth to it, which stands in opposition to God's then ruling kingdom. With that in mind, what event would suddenly make people of this world "feel" more secure? Obviously, we can't know exactly how any of this will play out.

Nevertheless, I have a feeling if Trump dies it would set off a chain reaction. For one, I guarantee we will be seeing people celebrating world over because they think he is literally Hitler. Could it not have been said when Hitler died was a time of security? Now I don't for a second think Trump is Hitler. But the truth doesn't matter, only what people think matters. I've pointed this out before. If Trump was killed that would be the perfect opportunity for people world over to talk about peace and security. What I don't know is how the instant destruction would come about. Again though, it doesn't take much imagination to understand how easily such a situation could spiral out of control. Many people would be convinced they killed the tyrant (A time of security), only for the real tyrant to emerge in the form of the 8th king. The instant destruction being the collapse of the present system.

 

[Jim]

House Democrat introduces bill aimed at Trump that would strip Secret Service protection from felons

Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) on Friday introduced legislation that would strip Secret Service protection from convicted felons sentenced to prison, a bill clearly aimed at former President Donald…

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[Shiloh]

Leftist are openly calling for Trump to be murdered in the name of national security. This is something I've been contemplating for a while now. When they are saying peace and security instant destruction comes upon them like birth pangs. The book of Daniel talks about this "time of security" many will be destroyed. The question we have to ask is what does security mean. It's a broad term. Security could mean physical security, financial security, emotional security. Essentially though, it revolves around protection from harm, danger, loss, etc.

What about the birth pains? What could scripture be referring to? What is it that is being birthed? It could be seen as the beginning of God's kingdom, and I suspect that is partially true. However, I think what it is referring to is the 8th king. We know this system will collapse. Then in its place a new tyrannical Government springs from the 7th. It gives birth to it, which stands in opposition to God's then ruling kingdom. With that in mind, what event would suddenly make people of this world "feel" more secure? Obviously, we can't know exactly how any of this will play out.

Nevertheless, I have a feeling if Trump dies it would set off a chain reaction. For one, I guarantee we will be seeing people celebrating world over because they think he is literally Hitler. Could it not have been said when Hitler died was a time of security? Now I don't for a second think Trump is Hitler. But the truth doesn't matter, only what people think matters. I've pointed this out before. If Trump was killed that would be the perfect opportunity for people world over to talk about peace and security. What I don't know is how the instant destruction would come about. Again though, it doesn't take much imagination to understand how easily such a situation could spiral out of control. Many people would be convinced they killed the tyrant (A time of security), only for the real tyrant to emerge in the form of the 8th king. The instant destruction being the collapse of the present system.

Well you don't hear this everyday from the leftists. I didn't realize they have such vile wackidoodles among them. I've wondered if we'd see an assassination attempt on Trump from the deep state but not seen any vocal support of such an attempt by leftists themselves. The next 6 months are looking to be crazy indeed.

 

[Jahrule]

House Democrat introduces bill aimed at Trump that would strip Secret Service protection from felons

Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) on Friday introduced legislation that would strip Secret Service protection from convicted felons sentenced to prison, a bill clearly aimed at former President Donald…

nypost.com

This may be the plan. If they strip his protection and put him in prison that would be the perfect time. They could just say he "killed himself." That would give them plausible deniability. Of course, it would be weird for New York to put a felon in prison. But I guess there is a first time for everything.

 

[Jahrule]

Oh and interestingly enough, if Trump was put in prison he'd likely go to the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City, which is also where Jeffrey Epstein "killed himself."

 

[Nomex]

Wow man, it's crazy you posted this I was literally thinking about this very thing this morning. Here's what I am thinking. First of all, I don't think an assassination will be needed. But I think it most likely it will play out like this...right now WWIII and nuclear war are looming. Let's say they are not able to steal it for whatever reason and Trump does get elected. There are still something like 79 days before he takes office which give the Dems plenty of time to start nuclear war for example. So I'm thinking Trump gets elected and Trump starts talking about "Peace and security" and I think the "sudden destruction" like you said, is the destruction of the 7th King giving birth to the 8th King. I hadn't thought about the "birth pangs" angle, which seems to lend even more credence to this possibility. BTW, I know a lot of people here think Trump is "playing a role", but let me say why I don't think so besides everything else that the establishment has done which clearly indicates they hate him, but that aside, if he's not one of them, I think him getting re-elected would send Satan and his demons into a rage that would launch the GT!


So to those of you who think Trump is a NWO puppet, think about how much Satan and the Demons would hate it if someone they don't control got back into the US Presidency. With that in mind, one thing I think we over look all too often and that is WHY, hasn't Jehovah brought the end? And the answer is because the whole reason Jehovah has allowed things to go on this long, is the issue of man ruling himself and failing, key word here, failing, is STILL PLAYING OUT! Wouldn't it make sense that it would infuriate Satan if someone they can't control gets back into office and starts setting back their time table again and he flies into a rage and decides to "burn the whole thing down", thwarted only by Jehovah stepping in and stopping the GT/WWIII.

 

[Nomex]

Of course, it would be weird for New York to put a felon in prison.

ROFLOL...that took me a second to get then I literally laughed out loud! For a second I thought you were talking about State Prison vs, Fed prison and I was like "they put felons in Federal prison" that's when I started laughing..I was like "Oh, NY doesn't put felons in prison!!!" HAHA!!! Nice one!!!!...

 

[Shiloh]

This may be the plan. If they strip his protection and put him in prison that would be the perfect time. They could just say he "killed himself." That would give them plausible deniability. Of course, it would be weird for New York to put a felon in prison. But I guess there is a first time for everything.

This is what I was thinking they'd do to him after they strip his security protection.

 

[Jahrule]

Wow man, it's crazy you posted this I was literally thinking about this very thing this morning. Here's what I am thinking. First of all, I don't think an assassination will be needed. But I think it most likely it will play out like this...right now WWIII and nuclear war are looming. Let's say they are not able to steal it for whatever reason and Trump does get elected. There are still something like 79 days before he takes office which give the Dems plenty of time to start nuclear war for example. So I'm thinking Trump gets elected and Trump starts talking about "Peace and security" and I think the "sudden destruction" like you said, is the destruction of the 7th King giving birth to the 8th King. I hadn't thought about the "birth pangs" angle, which seems to lend even more credence to this possibility. BTW, I know a lot of people here think Trump is "playing a role", but let me say why I don't think so besides everything else that the establishment has done which clearly indicates they hate him, but that aside, if he's not one of them, I think him getting re-elected would send Satan and his demons into a rage that would launch the GT!


So to those of you who think Trump is a NWO puppet, think about how much Satan and the Demons would hate it if someone they don't control got back into the US Presidency. With that in mind, one thing I think we over look all too often and that is WHY, hasn't Jehovah brought the end? And the answer is because the whole reason Jehovah has allowed things to go on this long, is the issue of man ruling himself and failing, key word here, failing, is STILL PLAYING OUT! Wouldn't it make sense that it would infuriate Satan if someone they can't control gets back into office and starts setting back their time table again and he flies into a rage and decides to "burn the whole thing down", thwarted only by Jehovah stepping in and stopping the GT/WWIII.

This scenario would work as well. It is true that they don't need to kill him outright if they could just send the system into a death spiral. The main issue I have with Trump being the one to talk about peace and security is that most of the world hates Trump. If Trump said peace and security I don't see the world jumping on board with the tagline. The bible says "they" are saying peace and security. So it's an amalgamation of people, likely the Government and the media, who are saying it, and if Trump was the one who started it I don't see many proponents accepting it.

However, this assumption of mine rests on "peace and security" being a declaration like Watchtower assumes. But technically, the bible doesn't say it's a declaration. It just says when they are saying it. So maybe the prospect of Trump taking office again raises fears about security leading to it being discussed. Although I am unsure how that could lead to a "time of security" before the collapse since most people oppose Trump. The only people in that case who might expect a time of security would be people on the right, which may still fulfill prophecy. So it's kind of difficult to say exactly how it will play out. It seems like it could happen wither way.

 

[Nomex]

is that most of the world hates Trump.

I disagree, it's just the media all over the world, but NOT the people. Look at Europe, take France for example, Macron has been saying out loud he wants to send French troops into Ukraine, and now all over Europe these same people are loosing elections. Farage just got back into Parliament in the UK, and the media are nothing but talking heads, and we saw how quickly and without reason, (not really without reason, they had just been ignoring it), but all of a sudden in lock step they have all turned against Biden. They got their marching orders and they turned on him just like that. But that doesn't even need to happen, the media can still report for example that Trump is saying, (read this in your inner Trump voice), "frankly we didn't have any wars while I was President so we'll have that again and we'll have peace and security ..." and mock him at the same time...keep in mind IMO the the whole point of declaring "peace and security" is to demonstrate once and for all time, what happens when men with Satan pulling the strings "run" things that's the whole point of "sudden destruction will be instantly open them" right after they start proclaiming "peace and security".

 

[Jahrule]

I disagree, it's just the media all over the world, but NOT the people. Look at Europe, take France for example, Macron has been saying out loud he wants to send French troops into Ukraine, and now all over Europe these same people are loosing elections. Farage just got back into Parliament in the UK, and the media are nothing but talking heads, and we saw how quickly and without reason, (not really without reason, they had just been ignoring it), but all of a sudden in lock step they have all turned against Biden. They got their marching orders and they turned on him just like that. But that doesn't even need to happen, the media can still report for example that Trump is saying, (read this in your inner Trump voice), "frankly we didn't have any wars while I was President so we'll have that again and we'll have peace and security ..." and mock him at the same time...keep in mind IMO the the whole point of declaring "peace and security" is to demonstrate once and for all time, what happens when men with Satan pulling the strings "run" things that's the whole point of "sudden destruction will be instantly open them" right after they start proclaiming "peace and security".

That's a good point. There is definitely a resurgence in the fight against the tyrants. Nevertheless, there is a literal army of these regressive losers out there. Even in France where the fight appears to be shifting, the media portrays them as the bad guys. They're the racists, the Nazis, the Zionists. And it's mostly very young people caught up in their propaganda. We saw first hand what the media did to Trump during his last term. The left basically has all the media in the pocket. There may be a handful of exceptions, but for the most part the media is against the people. If it was the people saying peace and security, I doubt the media would even report it accurately.

 

[Nomex]

That's a good point. There is definitely a resurgence in the fight against the tyrants. Nevertheless, there is a literal army of these regressive losers out there. Even in France where the fight appears to be shifting, the media portrays them as the bad guys. They're the racists, the Nazis, the Zionists. And it's mostly very young people caught up in their propaganda. We saw first hand what the media did to Trump during his last term. The left basically has all the media in the pocket. There may be a handful of exceptions, but for the most part the media is against the people. If it was the people saying peace and security, I doubt the media would even report it accurately.

OK, a couple of things to keep in mind, "whenever it is they are saying..." first we have to ask "who's they"? (I don't think it matters who's on who's side or whether it is a majority.) Next thing to ask is , why are they saying it? Since the Bible is clearly indicating that it is a false hope, because the opposite happens...but these are really unanswerable questions, we can only speculate, but I think we get closer to the truth by thinking about "why" this is playing out like it is and that we do know the answer to. It's the challenge to Jehovah's sovereignty. Which is something that goes completely over the heads of all so-called Christians. I happen to believe that Israel will be destroyed and these Evangelicals will be forced to accept that reality, and then the reality that they didn't "rapture." I think it parallels what is going to happen to WT and the R&F of JW's. They will also be forced to accept the reality that WT has been destroyed. Nothing like a cold shower to wake people up! Which has me wondering if the whole thing can last until November. But I think they will hold off and attempt another steal, before they blow up the world. But if Biden continues to refuse to step down which has become a major division within the Demoncrat party, it seems they will become more and more fractured. Of course they will have no problem taking Biden out, and it would be easy to blame a heart attack or something as old as he is. Regardless, I think we are all about to find out what's gonna happen...LOL!

 

[Jahrule]

OK, a couple of things to keep in mind, "whenever it is they are saying..." first we have to ask "who's they"? (I don't think it matters who's on who's side or whether it is a majority.) Next thing to ask is , why are they saying it? Since the Bible is clearly indicating that it is a false hope, because the opposite happens...but these are really unanswerable questions, we can only speculate, but I think we get closer to the truth by thinking about "why" this is playing out like it is and that we do know the answer to. It's the challenge to Jehovah's sovereignty. Which is something that goes completely over the heads of all so-called Christians. I happen to believe that Israel will be destroyed and these Evangelicals will be forced to accept that reality, and then the reality that they didn't "rapture." I think it parallels what is going to happen to WT and the R&F of JW's. They will also be forced to accept the reality that WT has been destroyed. Nothing like a cold shower to wake people up! Which has me wondering if the whole thing can last until November. But I think they will hold off and attempt another steal, before they blow up the world. But if Biden continues to refuse to step down which has become a major division within the Demoncrat party, it seems they will become more and more fractured. Of course they will have no problem taking Biden out, and it would be easy to blame a heart attack or something as old as he is. Regardless, I think we are all about to find out what's gonna happen...LOL!

They may be stuck with Biden. If he drops out whoever replaces him can't be on the ballot in some major swing states. They've really painted themselves into a corner here. They also may not want to change him because he's too easy to control. The problem is keeping him may also cause them to lose. So they lose if they change him, and they lose if they keep him.

 

[Nomex]

They may be stuck with Biden. If he drops out whoever replaces him can't be on the ballot in some major swing states. They've really painted themselves into a corner here. They also may not want to change him because he's too easy to control. The problem is keeping him may also cause them to lose. So they lose if they change him, and they lose if they keep him.

Roger Stone predicted exactly what happened at that debate two or three years in advance, so I think he may be right, he's been saying they are going to recruit Big Mike, and that Hitlery will be his/her VP! He's been saying that will happen at the DNC convention in August I believe.

 

[DavidCJ]

Wow man, it's crazy you posted this I was literally thinking about this very thing this morning. Here's what I am thinking. First of all, I don't think an assassination will be needed. But I think it most likely it will play out like this...right now WWIII and nuclear war are looming. Let's say they are not able to steal it for whatever reason and Trump does get elected. There are still something like 79 days before he takes office which give the Dems plenty of time to start nuclear war for example.

How does this part jive with what Jesus said on Matthew 24 you reckon?

-Good news has to be preached FIRST
-Judgment happens first with the house of God.
-Great Tribulation, if it starts with Nuclear strikes + WWIII

And if it happens all within this year. We have to get the order right.

It could be seen as the beginning of God's kingdom, and I suspect that is partially true. However, I think what it is referring to is the 8th king.

Yes, but the Woman gives birth to God's kingdom, not the 8th King.

Then in its place a new tyrannical Government springs from the 7th. It gives birth to it, which stands in opposition to God's then ruling kingdom. With that in mind, what event would suddenly make people of this world "feel" more secure? Obviously, we can't know exactly how any of this will play out.

Do people have to feel secure? There's another another book talking about "Peace and Security" and the following verse explains how it's not real Peace and Security. I assume that's why the WT concluded it as being a declaration.

The Bible also says God's people are deceived and blinded. Are we deceived and blinded?

 

[Jahrule]

How does this part jive with what Jesus said on Matthew 24 you reckon?

-Good news has to be preached FIRST

I wonder about that too. Although it's safe to say that mission has been ongoing for quite some time now.

-Judgment happens first with the house of God.

God's judgement, sure. But as Robert has astutely pointed out, the GT is a man made disaster. Even a limited nuclear exchange would break the illusion of stability enough for the system to crumble.

-Great Tribulation, if it starts with Nuclear strikes + WWIII

And if it happens all within this year. We have to get the order right.

I'm not convinced WW3 hasn't already started. It may be the case the timing outlined in scripture are not necessarily in chronological order. The good news being preached before the end can come may just mean a certain waypoint in the preaching work needs to be achieved. We may not even understand that we had reached that point. I doubt a notification will pop up saying "Achievement unlocked: Preaching work complete!"

Yes, but the Woman gives birth to God's kingdom, not the 8th King.

That's the thing, though. God's kingdom and Satan kingdom rule concurrently. Parallel fulfillment of prophecy aren't unheard of.

Do people have to feel secure? There's another another book talking about "Peace and Security" and the following verse explains how it's not real Peace and Security. I assume that's why the WT concluded it as being a declaration.

Correct. It will be false hope, but if it's a declaration it wouldn't mean anything if everyone is living in chaos already. The bible also says it happens at a time of security. See Daniel 8:25. It literally says this destruction comes at a time of security, not merely people talking about it. An example might be the eye of a storm. It seems calm. But as you say, it's a false sense of security. Nevertheless, it may appear to be secure.

 

[LuisMerino9412]

Leftist are openly calling for Trump to be murdered in the name of national security. This is something I've been contemplating for a while now. When they are saying peace and security instant destruction comes upon them like birth pangs. The book of Daniel talks about this "time of security" many will be destroyed. The question we have to ask is what does security mean. It's a broad term. Security could mean physical security, financial security, emotional security. Essentially though, it revolves around protection from harm, danger, loss, etc.

What about the birth pains? What could scripture be referring to? What is it that is being birthed? It could be seen as the beginning of God's kingdom, and I suspect that is partially true. However, I think what it is referring to is the 8th king. We know this system will collapse. Then in its place a new tyrannical Government springs from the 7th. It gives birth to it, which stands in opposition to God's then ruling kingdom. With that in mind, what event would suddenly make people of this world "feel" more secure? Obviously, we can't know exactly how any of this will play out.

Nevertheless, I have a feeling if Trump dies it would set off a chain reaction. For one, I guarantee we will be seeing people celebrating world over because they think he is literally Hitler. Could it not have been said when Hitler died was a time of security? Now I don't for a second think Trump is Hitler. But the truth doesn't matter, only what people think matters. I've pointed this out before. If Trump was killed that would be the perfect opportunity for people world over to talk about peace and security. What I don't know is how the instant destruction would come about. Again though, it doesn't take much imagination to understand how easily such a situation could spiral out of control. Many people would be convinced they killed the tyrant (A time of security), only for the real tyrant to emerge in the form of the 8th king. The instant destruction being the collapse of the present system.

I think he will be president of the US, but his presidency will unleash the last days and the great tribulation. I have always thought that. This is a possibility though. We will have to wait and see.

 

[Jahrule]

I think he will be president of the US, but his presidency will unleash the last days and the great tribulation. I have always thought that. This is a possibility though. We will have to wait and see.

I would be shocked if the ruling class lets him win. They've thrown everything they could think of at him, including convicting him on multiple felonies. If even that doesn't work there is no telling what they will do next.

 

[Nomex]

-Good news has to be preached FIRST

Well, this is why Jesus said on a couple of occasions, "let the reader use discernment". I think it's easy to get the GT and Armageddon mixed up. Jesus said "this good news of the Kingdom will be preached...and then the END will come." What end? The END! Armageddon. So I think Jesus was actually referring to the Witness the "Two Witnesses" give who preach about the "revealing of Jesus in his glory", that they have witnessed.

 

[Nomex]

I would be shocked if the ruling class lets him win. They've thrown everything they could think of at him, including convicting him on multiple felonies. If even that doesn't work there is no telling what they will do next.

I will say I have been convinced for a very long time, pretty much ever since the 2020 election that they would not let him win, but now I think they may not be able to steal it again because there are only so many people on the voter roles, and I think what they have been doing, throwing everything and the kitchen sink at Trump, which begs the question, why would they do that, if they can just steal it. The other option is all out full blown WWIII, and I agree I think WWIII has already started, and they cancel the elections like their puppet Zelenskyy did.

 

[Jahrule]

I will say I have been convinced for a very long time, pretty much ever since the 2020 election that they would not let him win, but now I think they may not be able to steal it again because there are only so many people or the voter roles, and I think what they have been doing, throwing everything and the kitchen sink at Trump, which begs the question, why would they do that, if they can just steal it. The other option is all out full blown WWIII, and I agree I think WWIII has already started, and they cancel the elections like their puppet Zelenskyy did.

That's what I'm afraid of. If they think Trump will win they'll do anything to prevent it. Stealing the election may have been a one off kind of thing. Now they'll sink the ship. Part of me is tempted to run down to the dispensary to buy an ounce. Not to use right now. I get random drug screens. I'll just hold onto it. Just in case everything collapses and my job disappears. Maybe I'll get one of those tobacco rolling machines too and make a bunch of little packs of cigarettes like they have in MREs. I don't smoke anymore, but I bet I could use them to barter with. Not my weed, though. I think I'll hold onto that. I'm only partially joking here.

 

[Watchman]

If anyone takes Trump out it will be the CIA and they will pin it on whomever they think will cause maximum damage. Blaming it on the "left" would undoubtedly set off a civil war

 

[Shiloh]

If anyone takes Trump out it will be the CIA and they will pin it on whomever they think will cause maximum damage. Blaming it on the "left" would undoubtedly set off a civil war

I totally agree, cause a civil war in this country is what they want. That would also mean they have to keep OBiden in office because they can control him like they are now. The only thing they hadn't planned on was his dementia progressing as fast as it has. If this country is at war or civil war the current president remains in office, it can't change hands.

 

[a watcher]

Well, this is why Jesus said on a couple of occasions, "let the reader use discernment". I think it's easy to get the GT and Armageddon mixed up. Jesus said "this good news of the Kingdom will be preached...and then the END will come." What end? The END! Armageddon. So I think Jesus was actually referring to the Witness the "Two Witnesses" give who preach about the "revealing of Jesus in his glory", that they have witnessed.

Interesting. The other sheep preach the GOOD news of the Kingdom, which ends when the 8th king bans it worldwide. Next up, the 2 Witnesses who preach the hailstone message and are killed for it. Then comes Armageddon. (?)

 

[Jahrule]

If anyone takes Trump out it will be the CIA and they will pin it on whomever they think will cause maximum damage. Blaming it on the "left" would undoubtedly set off a civil war

Good observation. I don't think they'll blame it on the left. The most obvious path is "suicide." But that depends on a lot of factors. They need to get him arrested and strip his protection first. They may not have enough time to do all that before the election. It's also possible to stage some type of terror attack too, where they kill off a bunch of their own, along with Trump. Like at some kind of convention or public address. They would gladly kill off Biden too, along with Harris, and maybe a bunch of others too, all at the same time, as long as they get their target. Then they can install someone else in the midst of the ensuing chaos. That would also provide plausible deniability. Hey, Biden and Harris and a bunch of others were killed in the attack too. Just speculation, of course. But it wouldn't surprise me.