Tuesday, Jan 30th - Rabboni!

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You will see your Grand Instructor.—Isa. 30:20.

Jehovah is a patient, kind, understanding Teacher. He looks for the good in his students. (Ps. 130:3) And he never expects more of us than we can do. Remember, he designed your brain, a wonderful gift. (Ps. 139:14) Our Creator wants us to keep learning forever—and to enjoy it. So it is wise to “form a longing” for Bible truths now. (1 Pet. 2:2) Set goals that you can reach, and stick to a schedule of Bible reading and study. (Josh. 1:8) With Jehovah’s blessing, you will come to enjoy reading and learning about him more and more. Knowledge alone is never enough. Its primary value is in how it helps you to learn more about Jehovah and to develop such qualities as love for him and faith in him. (1 Cor. 8:1-3) As you continue learning, keep asking Jehovah to help you gain more faith. (Luke 17:5) He generously answers such prayers. w23.03 10 ¶11, 13
The prime lesson Jehovah has yet to teach us is trust, humility, and honesty. Those qualities are not something that one can develop by merely reading words on a page. Unfortunately, human nature being what it is and the prevalence of malignant spirits, the most vital, life-saving instructions your Grand Instructor will yet impart will require a strong disciplinarian's hand to administer. It is the only way.

And so, if Jehovah looks for the good in his students and instead sees baneful issues such as willful blindness, idolatrous greed, self-righteousness, unreasonableness, and even a haughty spirit, combined with a malicious intent to deceive on the part of the leaders, Jehovah knows how to fix it. It will not be pleasant. No, it will be very painful. But the end result will be worth it--provided one has the inner strength to endure it. Indeed, who will endure the day of his coming and who will be able to stand when he appears? I remember reading that somewhere...:unsure:

If one were to actually read the context of the 30th chapter of Isaiah it is all laid out. Here, let's read it together: "Though Jehovah will give you bread in the form of distress and water in the form of oppression, your Grand Instructor will no longer hide himself, and you will see your Grand Instructor with your own eyes. And your own ears will hear a word behind you saying, “This is the way. Walk in it,” in case you should go to the right or in case you should go to the left."

In what way has Jehovah hidden himself? He has allowed his people to go their own way; he has even permitted wicked men to be the most prominent teachers. He has not intervened to correct the prevailing delusion that he began ruling as King back in 19...whenever. Jehovah has even allowed himself to be robbed. He has stayed hidden even while an organization is worshipped and held on high as the true light. He is patient.

In what way has God given his people "bread in the form of distress and water in the form of oppression"? He has not. Not yet. It is coming in the form of the great tribulation. And guess who will be dispensing the bread and water? Communist tyrants, from whom there will be no escape. Like a plague of swarming locusts, they will devour everything. Money? Forget it. It's gone. It has to be this way. Did you really think God was just going to destroy false religion and then lead you into paradise?

And this foolishness about an invisible parousia. What utter nonsense. Of course, even those who have actually been anointed will continue to allow themselves to be deluded until you hear a word behind you and then you will see your Grand Instructor. Sort of reminds me of when Mary went to the tomb looking for the corpse of Jesus and she mistook him for the gardener and then she heard a word behind her, saying: "Mary!" And Mary turned and recognized that it was Jesus and she said: "Rabboni!"

Do you know what "Rabboni" means? Grand Instructor, indeed!

 
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J&P

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And this foolishness about an invisible parousia. What utter nonsense. Of course, even those who have actually been anointed will continue to allow themselves to be deluded until you hear a word behind you and then you will see your Grand Instructor. Sort of reminds me of when Mary went to the tomb looking for the corpse of Jesus she mistook him for the gardener and then she heard a word behind her, saying: "Mary!" And Mary turned and recognized that it was Jesus and she said: "Rabboni!"

Do you know what "Rabboni" means? Grand Instructor, indeed!
You are so perceptive - the connection of (Isaiah 30:21) .. . ".And your own ears will hear a word behind you saying... “
with Mary's literal experience of hearing Jesus from behind her and recognizing his voice. Would never thought about it.
 

Paul H

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"Rabboni!"
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"And your own ears will hear a word behind you saying, “This is the way. Walk in it,” in case you should go to the right or in case you should go to the left."
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"And guess who will be dispensing the bread and water? Communist tyrants, from whom there will be no escape. Like a plague of swarming locusts, they will devour everything."

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PJ54

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You are so perceptive - the connection of (Isaiah 30:21) .. . ".And your own ears will hear a word behind you saying... “
with Mary's literal experience of hearing Jesus from behind her and recognizing his voice. Would never thought about it.
It's interesting how there are so many connections & patterns in the scripture. As humans are pattern seeking beings, things like that really lead to "Ah ha!" moments & the pieces fall into place.
 

J&P

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1st Article Above "You Will See Your Grand Instructor".

Jehovah’s Witnesses have no knowledge of these matters. That is because the Watchtower has imposed a blackout upon them. That is what the prophecy in the 30th chapter of Isaiah intimates when it imputes these words to the stubborn sons of God: “Now go, write it on a tablet in their presence, and inscribe it in a book, so that it may serve for a future day as a permanent witness. For they are a rebellious people, deceitful sons, sons who are unwilling to hear the law of Jehovah. They say to the seers, ‘Do not see,’ and to the visionaries, ‘do not tell us truthful visions. Tell us flattering things; envision deceptive illusions.”

Just as Isaiah was commanded to write down Jehovah’s judgment on a tablet in their presence in order to serve as a permanent record of the fact that the stubborn sons have been put on notice, I too have inscribed Jehovah’s judgments in their presence, even on the world wide web, and compiled them into a book entitled Jehovah Himself Has Become King. Although relatively few have bothered to read it the purpose is as stated in prophecy: “that it may serve for a future day as a permanent witness.”


Br. King has certainly done that it so many ways. He's made the prophets of old have real meaning.

I use to give a Public Talk entitled, "Will you Be a Survivor of the Last Days" and it was, what some might call, a renegade talk since I didn't adhere "closely" to the outline. In the talk I somewhat unwittingly made the comment that the Bible provides everything we need and elaborated by saying:

In the 1st century, between the time that Jesus was on earth and 66 C.E, 22 books had been written providing life saving instruction for those living in that critical period of time. As we approach the end of this system, how many new books have we seen written. The answer is zero. Does that mean Jehovah has left us lacking.? No, what it means is that we must already have everything we need.

Little did we know how true that would prove to be as we have seen the Hebrew scriptures open up to us in a way we never could have imagined, providing us with deep insight into our own times and into the future. Br. King's statement "the stubborn sons have been put on notice" reminded us of how true it is that the Bible really does provides us with what we need.

Certainly, we are happy that Br. King has provided us with the insight that was sorely lacking in the organization.

Careful there, Jerry. Expressing praise or appreciation may offend some readers. ;)
Not too worried!! That could prove to be their "problem" if you get my point.o_O
 
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BARNABY THE DOG.

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Careful there, Jerry. Expressing praise or appreciation may offend some readers. ;)
That May be so, but Winder assures us that there is no need to apologise any more, because Jehovah has not explained the matter to us properly and thus it’s all His fault. So we can all praise away guilt free, until we hear from Jehovah. We know this is true because Winder was informed, though Jehovah‘s channel to them - how else could they have known? The creator of the heavens and earth, of the laws that govern them, of the creation of every living thing, has told Winder, the new boy on the block, that He, Jehovah, has been inadequate in telling them the truth, that it is all His fault they have got it wrong, and that Winder has no need to apologise. Has anyone noticed if Winder has been given his ring yet?
 

Ms_ladyblue

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I use to give a Public Talk entitled, "Will you Be a Survivor of the Last Days" and it was, what some might call, a renegade talk since I didn't adhere "closely" to the outline. In the talk I somewhat unwittingly made the comment that the Bible provides everything we need and elaborated by saying:

In the 1st century, between the time that Jesus was on earth and 66 C.E, 22 books had been written providing life saving instruction for those living in that critical period of time. As we approach the end of this system, how many new books have we seen written. The answer is zero. Does that mean Jehovah has left us lacking.? No, what it means is that we must already have everything we need.

Little did we know how true that would prove to be as we have seen the Hebrew scriptures open up to us in a way we never could have imagined, providing us with deep insight into our own times and into the future. Br. King's statement "the stubborn sons have been put on notice" reminded us of how true it is that the Bible really does provides us with what we need.
This made me think of the WT‘s always having to add to our spiritual food in addition to the Bible…all the many publications, magazines, videos blah blah blah! But all we need is God’s word.
What would Solomon say to the GB?
“As for anything besides these, my son, be warned: To the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion to them is wearisome to the flesh.” —Ecclesiastes 12:12

Solomon wrote these words under inspiration by God. What does that tell you?
 

J&P

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That May be so, but Winder assures us that there is no need to apologise any more, because Jehovah has not explained the matter to us properly and thus it’s all His fault. So we can all praise away guilt free, until we hear from Jehovah. We know this is true because Winder was informed, though Jehovah‘s channel to them - how else could they have known? The creator of the heavens and earth, of the laws that govern them, of the creation of every living thing, has told Winder, the new boy on the block, that He, Jehovah, has been inadequate in telling them the truth, that it is all His fault they have got it wrong, and that Winder has no need to apologise. Has anyone noticed if Winder has been given his ring yet?
The hand signal is easier to spot. Don't even need my glasses for that. ;)
 

J&P

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This made me think of the WT‘s always having to add to our spiritual food in addition to the Bible…all the many publications, magazines, videos blah blah blah! But all we need is God’s word.
What would Solomon say to the GB?
“As for anything besides these, my son, be warned: To the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion to them is wearisome to the flesh.” —Ecclesiastes 12:12

Solomon wrote these words under inspiration by God. What does that tell you?
It tells us all we need to know!
 
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BARNABY THE DOG.

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I tells us all we need to know!
I often wonder how many there may be like minded with you both over the fall of the watchtower. Genuine people who looked for the truth, saw it in its embryonic form and held on to it as it grew into some warped catastrophe of what it could have been, before letting go to save yourselves and your relationship with the Grand Creator. The truth is so different is it not? I saw it, fortunately, though it was a miserable, miserable time, back in 1980 when it was made obvious to me that there was no love between followers, and certainly no love, but arrogance alone, among the elders. I “faded” (rapidly), but hung on to the fact of creation and that was enough for me. I needed no bible, i never understood it properly anyway, only the watchtower version - and that didn’t hold water on so many levels - but always for me, creation, the Creator and the sheer joy of it in its design, it’s eternity of motion, it’s laws both natural of themselves and mathematical - imagine making a law that is self sustaining, such as seasons and growth, pollination and weather, photosynthesis - it just boggles the mind. And yet, after all those years you spent in the watchtower, the same glory gives you the impetus and love of righteousness just to up-camp and abandon the land and carry on seeking - and true to His word the Grand Creator finds you. It is what faith is all about. The wilderness produces fruit like no other.
 

J&P

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I often wonder how many there may be like minded with you both over the fall of the watchtower. Genuine people who looked for the truth, saw it in its embryonic form and held on to it as it grew into some warped catastrophe of what it could have been, before letting go to save yourselves and your relationship with the Grand Creator. The truth is so different is it not? I saw it, fortunately, though it was a miserable, miserable time, back in 1980 when it was made obvious to me that there was no love between followers, and certainly no love, but arrogance alone, among the elders. I “faded” (rapidly), but hung on to the fact of creation and that was enough for me. I needed no bible, i never understood it properly anyway, only the watchtower version - and that didn’t hold water on so many levels - but always for me, creation, the Creator and the sheer joy of it in its design, it’s eternity of motion, it’s laws both natural of themselves and mathematical - imagine making a law that is self sustaining, such as seasons and growth, pollination and weather, photosynthesis - it just boggles the mind. And yet, after all those years you spent in the watchtower, the same glory gives you the impetus and love of righteousness just to up-camp and abandon the land and carry on seeking - and true to His word the Grand Creator finds you. It is what faith is all about. The wilderness produces fruit like no other.
In the past, WT often used the phrase "ring of truth". Actually, we counted 55 times that the phrase "ring of truth" was used. Gradually, we began to recognize it was no longer evident as it once was. It took us awhile but our love for Jehovah and the "ring of truth" eventually prevailed.
 
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kirmmy

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I use to give a Public Talk entitled, "Will you Be a Survivor of the Last Days" and it was, what some might call, a renegade talk since I didn't adhere "closely" to the outline.
I've been out for a long time but I don't think you could get away with that today. I hear talks are closely monitored and if you deviate from the outline the thought police division of the WBTS is called and that's a paddling.
 

J&P

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I've been out for a long time but I don't think you could get away with that today. I hear talks are closely monitored and if you deviate from the outline the thought police division of the WBTS is called and that's a paddling.
I resigned about a year and a half ago. I guess the WT police cut me some slack because virtually none of my Public Talks followed the outline closely.
But, when it came to circuit and regional talks, that's another story. Not much wiggle room there so I had no choice but to adhere closely to the outline. In that setting, you're right, they monitor you very closely.
 
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