Tuesday, July 23 - It puts under compulsion all people

Serenity said:
I've also had to resort to other sources for the older publications, such as eBay and even the Bible Student's website where Russell's Studies in the Scriptures are available at a very reasonable cost, which includes shipping. These books have not been available through the Watchtower since, I believe about the mid 1920s, surprisingly, not very long after Russell's death. It is very enlightening to examine the true history of the Watchtower, which I'm sure the organization would prefer that JWs don't look into. In fact, there are books considered to be off limits that JWs are not supposed to read anymore. These even include some more recent publications such as, "Commentary on the Letter of James" from 1979.
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Anyone who seriously reads and studies the watchtowers past history will come to realize that their house is built on a Sandy Foundation.

Furthermore, everyone hearing these sayings of mine and not doing+ them will be likened to a foolish man,+ who built his house upon the sand. And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and struck against that house+ and it caved in, and its collapse was great.”+​

Matthew7:26-27​

 
kirmmy said:
Regarding this: I went to my local Costco yesterday and was gobsmacked to see that they require you to scan your membership card into a reader before entering. Before, the friendly greeter would just look at it. BTW, there is a picture of you on the back for verification purposes if they are worried.

I told the greeter I wanted to talk to a manager about it. I explained to the manager that I didn't want to participate in it and he said it's being rolled out at all Costcos. He assured me that it just checks your picture to make sure you are who you say you are and keeps a count of those coming into the store. And of course, "none of this data is kept". I asked where it shows the picture as the greeter had nothing in her hands, not a tablet or laptop could be seen. He said it was checked behind the scenes and she's only there to make sure you scan. It's BS and he even admitted that that's what he was "told" and doesn't know anything deeper.

I explained to him that others have said this about data retention and have been caught lying. I said if you have an "in" time and an "out" time (checkout) and a list of the things purchased then you can plot a path the customer most likely took through the store. He hadn't thought of that but most people don't give much thought to the digital prison they're bringing in.

I said I'd probably give up my membership and that they don't ask that foolishness when you shop at Safeway, etc.

Then get this; he says to me "They will soon and it's a good thing we'll be dead by the time they completely roll out all this stuff". We were more or less the same age but this guy is counting on death to sidestep this BS. TBH, so am I, in a way.

What a world they're creating for young people. It will be complete surveillance and slavery and no one does anything or says a peep. No wonder God will have to liberate the few of us that don't like the chains. "Give me liberty or give me death" (Patrick Henry). That takes on a whole new meaning for me now...

And some will think I'm getting a bit excited over nothing here. This is a small step, granted. But look at the direction the small steps are leading to.

Because going to the grocery store will be a "scan or you will not pass" ordeal, people will have to live on communes and provide for themselves to avoid this prison. We need each other like we need Jehovah. And yeah, I know that sooner or later they'll go after these people as well. Satan will see to it. Armageddon will flush that turd though.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1815854771582165045
 
I think the way Jehovah set this thing up is beautiful. His entry onto the world's stage has to be as a Savior, and when everyone is enslaved in this digital gulag, it will impose a life-and-death decision upon everyone. Most people will choose to be enslaved to Satan and thus be marked with 666.
 
Watchman said:
I think the way Jehovah set this thing up is beautiful. His entry onto the world's stage has to be as a Savior, and when everyone is enslaved in this digital gulag, it will impose a life-and-death decision upon everyone. Most people will choose to be enslaved to Satan and thus be marked with 666.
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Robert are you suggesting that if we accept the digital currency /enslavement we are accepting the mark of the wild beast?
 
Bk Kevin said:
Robert are you suggesting that if we accept the digital currency /enslavement we are accepting the mark of the wild beast?
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I would imagine that the occult rulers of the last kingdom will require some oath, pledge, or some act of subservience that Satan knows will violate the faith of Jehovah's people. It is called coercion—no worship of the image, no digital stipend.
 
Watchman said:
I would imagine that the occult rulers of the last kingdom will require some oath, pledge, or some act of subservience that Satan knows will violate the faith of Jehovah's people. It is called coercion—no worship of the image, no digital stipend.
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Thanks for your clarification on that point as it is imperative to all of us.

Deuteronomy 5:7​

You must never have any other gods against my face.
 
Watchman said:
I would imagine that the occult rulers of the last kingdom will require some oath, pledge, or some act of subservience that Satan knows will violate the faith of Jehovah's people. It is called coercion—no worship of the image, no digital stipend.
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Has there ever been an example of this coercion in human history?
 
Melinda Riling said:
Has there ever been an example of this coercion in human history?
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Judas Iscariot sealed the deal when he accept the 30 pieces of silver in order to betray Jesus, although I don't see much coercion.

Then one of the twelve, the one called Judas Is·carʹi·ot,+ went to the chief priests and said: “What will YOU give me to betray him to YOU?”+ They stipulated to him thirty silver pieces.+ So from then on he kept seeking a good opportunity to betray him.+

Matthew26:14-15​

 
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Melinda Riling said:
Has there ever been an example of this coercion in human history?
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Hitler and his Nazis persecuted and murdered millions of Jews, Poles, Gypsies, homosexuals, and Jehovah's Witnesses. However, unlike the Jews and other victims who could not change their ethnicity and were not given any options, Jehovah's Witnesses were given a choice. They could do the Nazi salute and Heil Hitler, and they would be left alone. Even JWs in the concentration camps were given a choice. They could sign a document denouncing Jehovah and the Watchtower, and they could walk out of the camp.
 
Watchman said:
I would imagine that the occult rulers of the last kingdom will require some oath, pledge, or some act of subservience that Satan knows will violate the faith of Jehovah's people. It is called coercion—no worship of the image, no digital stipend.
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Do you think WT might align with "the occult rulers of the last kingdom", meaning the GB would actually encourage the friends to take an oath or pledge some type of allegiance, as they did with the vaccination, and this be a test for God's people? Obey the GB or obey Jehovah and flee? (Phyllis)

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Jerry&Phyllis said:
Do you think WT might align with "the occult rulers of the last kingdom", as they did with the vaccination, and this be a test for God's people? Obey the GB or obey Jehovah and flee? (Phyllis)
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That would be equal to Judas handing Jesus over....again history repeating itself. Those who refuse I am sure WT has their addresses.
 
Jerry&Phyllis said:
Do you think WT might align with "the occult rulers of the last kingdom", as they did with the vaccination, and this be a test for God's people? Obey the GB or obey Jehovah and flee? (Phyllis)
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I found this article to be of some interest.
Excerpted from>

The Antichrist Is Coming!​

While it remains to be seen whether an individual like Judas will ultimately emerge, taken in their totality the writings of the prophets and apostles, as well as the pattern of the first century, indicate that the antichrist will come from within Christ’s congregation. And given the fact that the Watchtower has been the source of the deluding influence, it is simply out of the question that the same institution that has promoted a faux parousia will be used by God to issue life-saving directions.

Yes, there is no question about it, the Watchtower is the antichrist that is coming! >Read more https://e-watchman.com/antichrist-coming/
 
Jerry&Phyllis said:
Do you think WT might align with "the occult rulers of the last kingdom", meaning the GB would actually encourage the friends to take an oath or pledge some type of allegiance, as they did with the vaccination, and this be a test for God's people? Obey the GB or obey Jehovah and flee? (Phyllis)

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Yes. I am sure that there will be some kind of treachery. We have already seen it with the vax
 
Jerry&Phyllis said:
Thanks, we needed that! :ROFLMAO:
Your Wikipedia ("Libellus") post was quite interesting.
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You're welcome :)
I stumbled upon it by accident a few years ago and was surprised that there was a precedent. Tbh, it did make me question the timeline we're in a bit. I find it interesting how it was adopted (and adapted) by the church in later period. Seems like some form of proto-MOTB has been in existence since the beginning...
 
Bk Kevin said:

I'm sure they probably will.​

Some more food for thought.​

What is the 666 mark of the beast?> https://e-watchman.com/666-mark-beast/​

The Mark of the Beast>https://e-watchman.com/jehovahs-witnesses-the-mark-of-the-beast/​

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I believe it was Henry Kissinger who stated , that if those ruling can make events occur that puts the people into a position where they are in constant fear , they will willingly give up all rights , in the hope that they feel safe . I would think that some kind of swearing some kind of oath of allegiance would also accompany this .
 
Jerry&Phyllis said:
Do you think WT might align with "the occult rulers of the last kingdom", meaning the GB would actually encourage the friends to take an oath or pledge some type of allegiance, as they did with the vaccination, and this be a test for God's people? Obey the GB or obey Jehovah and flee? (Phyllis)

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One thing that I think about is that it is the anointed who are the real target. The rest of us are just like civilian casualties. Plus they probably think by making an example of the anointed, who are likely more prominent, the rest will be terrified into submission.
 
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