Turbo Cancer

robins

robins

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SusanB said:
It is interesting that the vegetarians that I know, most times really, are not a fan of real vegetables outside of rice and potatoes. They often don’t eat broccoli, asparagus, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, which I do eat and love. In fact, what they often eat are over-processed vegetables that are formed and flavored to look and taste like meat. Go figure. My goal is to keep the food that I eat in the same form that Jehovah provided it, with the exception of bread, which is my downfall. In other words, I want my food with as little processing as possible. If you go overboard regarding animals where will it stop? Plants actually sing and scream too. It’s just that human ears can’t hear it but they do have ways to measure the plant sounds. They also are living things. So, for me, I draw the line where Jehovah put it and that is that he gave animals to humans for food in the same way that he gave vegetation to them.

In my neighborhood we have feral cats. I am the meat-eater who organized a non-profit to come out and spay and neuter the cats and helped them catch the cats and donated a trap to them. The vegetarians in my neighborhood didn’t do that. We didn’t get all of the cats but we got most. And, I feel so sorry for the cats that I feed them everyday and go to the grocery store 2 X’s a week to buy food for them at substantial cost to me. I love animals and have no problem caring for them. But still they have a place in Jehovah’s creation and I respect that and I am thankful for his provision of meat. I actually have many reasons that eating meat doesn’t bother my conscience but it isn’t something that I choose to promote because each person can read what the bible says for themselves on this topic. I am not trying to convince anyone to eat meat or not eat meat, I just get irritated when someone tries to shame me and inputs bad motives to me, such as not respecting the sanctity of life. That is way off base and slanderous.

In Hawaii we have Filipino brothers and sisters and a Filipino brother who was an Elder before the vax killed him. He told me that he ate dog when he was in the Philippines. Would I ever eat a dog? No, I would not but I didn’t correct that brother because it isn’t my business and I don’t want to be master over anyone’s faith. I myself have eaten exotic animals, like crocodile, ostrich, buffalo, venison, rabbit. It’s important to respect each one’s conscience and to not shame anyone with our own personal extrapolation of the scriptures. Like the first century, I think we should pay attention to the necessary things and the other things will fall into place when Jehovah makes correction.
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Thank you for explaining your thoughts further. It sounds like you pay close attention to your diet. Being vegetarian does not necessarily equate to health as you have observed, as one can be vegan and only eat oreos and potato chips! I think eating meat is being conflated with animal suffering. In older times people killed their own meat, so had more control over how this was done and how the animals were bled. It today's society this function is largely outsourced, so we can't be guaranteed of either. Your story about the Filipino brother proves my point - different cultures value different animals as 'edible' or not, but does this random hierarchy exist in God's eyes? Why would you not eat a dog? Why do those in India not eat cows? Or middle eastern countries pig? It is a cultural perception, but Jehovah's love of his creation is over-arching beyond 'arbitrary' culture. Since becoming vegetarian it has perplexed me how the JW org is totally culturally blind and ethno-centric to the western culture. Very few Muslims or Hindus would be attracted to the biblical message when so many JWs casually eat meat, just as if a US citizen were living in the Philippines or China they would likely be distracted by the message of any religion that bbq'ed cats or dogs. The more loving universal appeal would be to encourage a diet that jehovah originally meant for humans in the garden of eden (not post-flood when vegetation was more scarce). If you're of the belief that killing animals for food was part of Jehovah's original plan for humans then eating meat today is consistent with that belief. If one is of the belief that killing was not part of God's original arrangement in the biblical description in the Garden of Eden and the Isaiah description of return to paradise, then giving consideration as to why he made the exception and what current conditions today are similar or dissimilar is worthy of pondering on a deeper more spiritual level.
 
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robins

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Chloe said:
Well my hubby is hoping that fillet steak will grow on trees. 😊
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Good news for your husband! There are companies such as Mosa meat and Upside Foods that are on breaking edge technologey to "grow" meat from cells from animals, without killing the animal --and very little-- if any, animal suffering. My argument is not against the eating of meat, but the contribution to suffering. I am looking forward to suffer-free meat coming to mainstream market too!
 
Seadog

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robins said:
you must have missed my caveat of "necessary" vs. "unnecessary"...
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No I got that. I have little time for debate with those that promote fake meat as an alternative. At best it is demonic as it uses foetal blood extracted from slaughtered cows calves which are still alive when a hypodermic needle is inserted into their heart to collect the blood. It is a very profitable business for the slaughterhouses
 
Shekinah

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Paul H said:
After the covid jabs, there has been a huge increase in so called turbo-cancer...
I always believed that fasting can lead to your body destroying cancer cells...
There is no cancer in existence that can survive without glucose and glutamine.
Fasting has many many benefits and its not a coincidence that the Bible speaks about fasting so much.

Here is a must-watch video I wanted to share on this topic.

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Excellent video, I saw my son reverse what he believes was cancer, he was losing so much weight so rapidly and not keeping any food down or in that he looked as if he was going to die, yet the doctor said it must be stress he seemed fine.
So my son did quite a bit of research cut out all sugar, meat and dairy, fasted and would have smoothies of vegetables then introduced soups and small amount of fruit when he started to make progress. Took over a year or more to start putting on weight he also at the start introduced THC oil in micro doses, which in some countries, states is illegal. But he made a 100% recovery and remains on a plant based diet to this day.
 
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Shekinah said:
Excellent video, I saw my son reverse what he believes was cancer, he was losing so much weight so rapidly and not keeping any food down or in that he looked as if he was going to die, yet the doctor said it must be stress he seemed fine.
So my son did quite a bit of research cut out all sugar, meat and dairy, fasted and would have smoothies of vegetables then introduced soups and small amount of fruit when he started to make progress. Took over a year or more to start putting on weight he also at the start introduced THC oil in micro doses, which in some countries, states is illegal. But he made a 100% recovery and remains on a plant based diet to this day.
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THC oil?
 
Watchman

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Shekinah said:
Excellent video, I saw my son reverse what he believes was cancer, he was losing so much weight so rapidly and not keeping any food down or in that he looked as if he was going to die, yet the doctor said it must be stress he seemed fine.
So my son did quite a bit of research cut out all sugar, meat and dairy, fasted and would have smoothies of vegetables then introduced soups and small amount of fruit when he started to make progress. Took over a year or more to start putting on weight he also at the start introduced THC oil in micro doses, which in some countries, states is illegal. But he made a 100% recovery and remains on a plant based diet to this day.
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That is awesome. So happy to hear it when people take charge of their own health. I have seen many such instances when people cure themselves simply by detoxing.
 
robins

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Seadog said:
No I got that. I have little time for debate with those that promote fake meat as an alternative. At best it is demonic as it uses foetal blood extracted from slaughtered cows calves which are still alive when a hypodermic needle is inserted into their heart to collect the blood. It is a very profitable business for the slaughterhouses
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And it's not demonic to slaughter innocent animals for the taste of flesh when there may be more loving options that don't involve killing or suffering? Lol. Killing of the animal to obtain the cells may be used by some companies, but is NOT a necessity involved when creating the meat.

While Beyond Meat or Impossible Burgers may be considered 'fake' or imitation meat, meat 'grown' from other cells is not technically or chemically fake, it just has different origins than the death of a sentient animal. Just as skin cells grafted from other skin cells is not 'fake' skin, or humans that are formed from IVF (vs. womb) are not fake people, or ice formed in a freezer (vs cold lakes) is not fake ice. The use of technology doesn't make something biologically or chemically fake, just alternate and potentially more efficient.
 
kirmmy

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Shekinah said:
Excellent video, I saw my son reverse what he believes was cancer, he was losing so much weight so rapidly and not keeping any food down or in that he looked as if he was going to die, yet the doctor said it must be stress he seemed fine.
So my son did quite a bit of research cut out all sugar, meat and dairy, fasted and would have smoothies of vegetables then introduced soups and small amount of fruit when he started to make progress. Took over a year or more to start putting on weight he also at the start introduced THC oil in micro doses, which in some countries, states is illegal. But he made a 100% recovery and remains on a plant based diet to this day.
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From my stint on Keto, I know sugar is a modern day plague. They always say; "It's alright, it's only 14 calories/teaspoon, everybody can afford that". It's not the calories though it's what your body does with it. And HFCS is even worse. People need to look into how it's processed by the liver. The tough thing and I'm sure your son is finding out, or has found out; sugar is almost impossible to avoid these days. For Pete's sake, they even spray beef jerky with it.

So glad to hear about your son and God bless his further efforts.

BTW, if you want to avoid the high that comes with THC, try CBD oil, full spectrum. All the benefits without the hallucinations. :) I've been taking it for years. It cured my asthma. One warning though; full spectrum CBD will cause you to fail a drug test, I've heard. The test will indicate you've had cannabis in the last 30 days. It's probably only a matter of time before that ends up biting me in the behind...
 
Shekinah

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kirmmy said:
From my stint on Keto, I know sugar is a modern day plague. They always say; "It's alright, it's only 14 calories/teaspoon, everybody can afford that". It's not the calories though it's what your body does with it. And HFCS is even worse. People need to look into how it's processed by the liver. The tough thing and I'm sure your son is finding out, or has found out; sugar is almost impossible to avoid these days. For Pete's sake, they even spray beef jerky with it.

So glad to hear about your son and God bless his further efforts.

BTW, if you want to avoid the high that comes with THC, try CBD oil, full spectrum. All the benefits without the hallucinations. :) I've been taking it for years. It cured my asthma. One warning though; full spectrum CBD will cause you to fail a drug test, I've heard. The test will indicate you've had cannabis in the last 30 days. It's probably only a matter of time before that ends up biting me in the behind...
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kirmmy said:
From my stint on Keto, I know sugar is a modern day plague. They always say; "It's alright, it's only 14 calories/teaspoon, everybody can afford that". It's not the calories though it's what your body does with it. And HFCS is even worse. People need to look into how it's processed by the liver. The tough thing and I'm sure your son is finding out, or has found out; sugar is almost impossible to avoid these days. For Pete's sake, they even spray beef jerky with it.

So glad to hear about your son and God bless his further efforts.

BTW, if you want to avoid the high that comes with THC, try CBD oil, full spectrum. All the benefits without the hallucinations. :) I've been taking it for years. It cured my asthma. One warning though; full spectrum CBD will cause you to fail a drug test, I've heard. The test will indicate you've had cannabis in the last 30 days. It's probably only a matter of time before that ends up biting me in the behind...
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Strangely enough my son's not paranoid about fruit as some Keto followers are, but yes he avoids sugar. And yes I take CBD oil too so many different brands and it's done very little for damaged mitochondria.
 
Shekinah

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Thank you brother.
I saw my mum go from bad to worse on allopathic medicine until her cupboard resembled a pharmacy, that's when I decided to study alternative medicine. The majority of things I have been able to treat with change of diet and nutritional changes but when a bioweapon in the form of a virus enters the body, if left too long damages the mitochondria, this is what we know as yuppy flu or as long Covid. I find these the most difficult to treat as it's systemic and chronic. I'm still learning and seeing my son make a complete turn around with his health taught me a thing or two.
 
kirmmy

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Shekinah said:
Strangely enough my son's not paranoid about fruit as some Keto followers are, but yes he avoids sugar. And yes I take CBD oil too so many different brands and it's done very little for damaged mitochondria.
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On Keto, small amounts of berries are fine. 1/2 cup of strawberries, 1/4 cup or blueberries, raspberries or blackberries. Some nuts too; pecans, walnuts, brazil nuts. I'm itching to try the carnivore diet myself. Maybe for a week or two just to see how it goes. My health has been great since keto so I should keep pushing forward...

You said CBD does little for damaged mitochondria. Is that why you're using THC? And how does your son deal with the..."buzz"? That's the whole reason why I won't take THC on a regular basis. I want the benefit but not the "high". Thusly, I use CBD.
 
Shekinah

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kirmmy said:
On Keto, small amounts of berries are fine. 1/2 cup of strawberries, 1/4 cup or blueberries, raspberries or blackberries. Some nuts too; pecans, walnuts, brazil nuts. I'm itching to try the carnivore diet myself. Maybe for a week or two just to see how it goes. My health has been great since keto so I should keep pushing forward...

You said CBD does little for damaged mitochondria. Is that why you're using THC? And how does your son deal with the..."buzz"? That's the whole reason why I won't take THC on a regular basis. I want the benefit but not the "high". Thusly, I use CBD.
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Thank you for that advice. No I don't use THC, I don't think he takes it now but while on his journey to recovery he did besides it's extremely expensive.
 
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