Watchman's Witnesses

Proverbs 14 v 15

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Actually, God's prophets were also vindicated when what they said came true. In the case of Ezekiel God said: "As for them, whether they listen or refuse to listen—for they are a rebellious house—they will certainly know that a prophet was among them."

If Jehovah's Witnesses are not God's people, as you imply, then I am a fraud. If however, they are and what I have presented comes upon them then Jehovah's Witnesses will have to know that a prophet was among them. Keep in mind a prophet such as Jeremiah did not merely foretell the future. He also delivered the message to the apostate leaders of God's people. That is what I have done. Over the years, I have published dozens of open letters and massive mailouts to Bethels all around the world. Every Kingdom Hall in the English-speaking world received an 8-page letter detailing the WT's hypocritical partnership with the UN. Every branch office and Governing Body member received a copy of Jehovah Himself Has Become King. And the Watchtower has received the message.

Most JWs are not aware but most of the "new light" the WT has issued in recent years has either been some variation of something I had previously published or a response to it. For example, I have written many articles exposing the WT's absurd interpretation of Joel's prophecy. After many years, they finally responded and admitted that the locusts do not represent JW ministers. However, rather than offer any interpretation, they now claim that the book of Joel has no modern application. So, as a result of my work, Jehovah has pushed the leaders of the Watchtower to reveal their contempt for him and his word.

As for 1914, you are right; anyone with common sense can prove to themselves that 1914 is a lie. But that is not what I have done. 1914 is the fulfillment of Bible prophecy. But, obviously, not in the way that JWs imagine. 1914 is part of an operation of Satan that Jehovah allows. It is the lie that Paul referred to. It is the highly raised, whitewashed wall that the stupid prophets have constructed. So, in your simple-mindedness, you wish to portray my work as merely disproving 1914 when it is much more than that. The Watchtower's collapse will coincide with the coming of Christ. Surely, I will be vindicated as a watchman when the Watchtower crashes, and there is nothing that you, the Governing Body, or anyone else will be able to do about it.
Well said Robert. I haven't replaced the GB with you! How ridiculous! I was just looking around thinking "where's Jehovah's/Jesus' voice? Because all I could hear from a few years ago was a "strangers voice" I didn't realise you had sent so much Bible info to the Org, no wonder they keep on at everyone to not listen to anyone else 😂 To me, they seemed to get more and more desperate in their attempts to stop us looking at anything other than what THEY allow.. and I don't like that kind of imprisonment, because I didn't join a cult, and I'm not stupid, if hear or see stuff out their that's from Jehovah haters I can recognise it immediately, as I assume does everyone else here. I certainly haven't see any of that since I've been here. In fact, quite the opposite, upbuilding and interesting stuff from the bible that lifts me up and has answered soooo many questions about the GB's behaviour these past 4 years. I'm not confused anymore 😊 thankyou 😁 I appreciate it very much Robert but don't expect me to "idolise" you 😜
 

Carl

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The real precious metal is silver, it has way more growth potential than gold. Both are hedges, both are Jehovah's money and both will never go to zero, but all the gold that's ever been mined is pretty much still around... but silver is used up all the time in industrial production. One Tomahawk missile contains ~500 ounces of silver, which is basically destroyed on impact. Neither metal will protect the wicked, but both can help you through what's coming.
 

BagdadBill

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He won't, so I will.

"Meaning of warmongering in English: the act of encouraging a country to go to war or of threatening violence against another country."

Warning about WWIII is not the same as encouraging it.
I rather thought that was what he was saying. It would seem they both bailed out. I get challenged daily on my comments on the Internet and all I ask is that people be specific when they attack someone. I don't deal in generalizations unless we both agree on the facts.
Yesterday I had someone accuse me of being a book burner. I asked him to be specific as to the books burned and where this took place.
After asking the question three times, he finally said banned but that it was the same thing.
When I asked him which books were being banned and where they were banned from he blocked me of course.
They always run away.
 

DavidCJ

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I don't know about any of you, but I've battled inner demons my whole life; lust mostly, but also greed, envy, gluttony, arrogance, pride and on rare occasions violent thoughts. Why Jehovah choose to gift me an extra helping of faith is anyone's guess. Why did He speak to me when I was making horrible choices, and bail me out of countless jams? Why do some people suffer more than me, even though they're way more deserving of help? I'm going to require something other than my fleshly discernment to know who to follow. I believe Jehovah will somehow make sure we know it's from Him. I don't know how, but I do think that's the only way it can go down. Jehovah will use His Holy Spirit to let us know who to follow.
It's like the one song from the Songbook. Jehovah sees what you CAN be.
One Tomahawk missile contains ~500 ounces of silver, which is basically destroyed on impact. Neither metal will protect the wicked, but both can help you through what's coming.
Carl, Gold is used for plating printed circuit boards and others. They try to reclaim it but I reckon most end up in landfills as the process isn't something anyone can do and the amount is small. But with the amount of computing devices out there, it might be significant.
One thing I know for certain is that nobody can plan like Jehovah. I considered the statement that even Jesus did not know the hour of our judgement. This is Jesus we're talking about, and even he doesn't know?
Yea consider this.

We are waiting for JESUS'S DAY.

So he doesn't know the "day and the hour" he himself is coming to judge the world.
 
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Jim

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Kurt Metzger , who co hosts the Jimmy Dore show was also raised a Jehovah`s witness . He had to be told to stop going on about it , because he would bring it up at every chance .
Kurt STILL refers to his upbringing every once in a while. Not specifically mentioning the organization by name but referring to it as a doomsday cult. I had a conversation with Jimmy (and his wife) several months ago. I could sense he was a bit down. He has had many "friends" turn on him. Funny how telling the truth tends to do that.
 

Melinda

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Kurt STILL refers to his upbringing every once in a while. Not specifically mentioning the organization by name but referring to it as a doomsday cult. I had a conversation with Jimmy (and his wife) several months ago. I could sense he was a bit down. He has had many "friends" turn on him. Funny how telling the truth tends to do that.
Why is it so much easier for people to believe a lie than to believe the truth?
 

kirmmy

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Why is it so much easier for people to believe a lie than to believe the truth?
I think it's because, in today's world, adopting the truth takes courage and usually means a comfortable existence is about to get uncomfortable, mentally, physically, financially. Besides, many people just go along to get along. I'd estimate that at least 1/3 did that during convid. Since that scam I've talked to many people and most tell me they took the vax for peace in their family or...you know...the boss insisted, etc, etc, etc. Most knew it was a useless or a scam but they just went along.

I suppose that's why the Bible says that Jehovah requires courage: Rev 21:8

"But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”"
 

Proverbs 14 v 15

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I think it's because, in today's world, adopting the truth takes courage and usually means a comfortable existence is about to get uncomfortable, mentally, physically, financially. Besides, many people just go along to get along. I'd estimate that at least 1/3 did that during convid. Since that scam I've talked to many people and most tell me they took the vax for peace in their family or...you know...the boss insisted, etc, etc, etc. Most knew it was a useless or a scam but they just went along.

I suppose that's why the Bible says that Jehovah requires courage: Rev 21:8

"But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”"
Yep.. I begged my hubby to wait just 6 months but his mum and rest of family were like "Have you had your first? Have you had your 2nd? Have you had your booster?" My goodness, I got sick of hearing that. The last time I "stayed behind" after a zoom meeting, nearly 3yrs ago, everyone in the breakout room I got put into were asking eachother if they'd got their 2nd yet, I kept quiet, till someone asked me if I'd had MY 2nd yet. When I replied that I'd not even had my 1st, you could have cut the virtual air with a knife. No questions, no remarks, nothing. That was the end of my breakout sessions 😐
 

JMJLG

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Kurt STILL refers to his upbringing every once in a while. Not specifically mentioning the organization by name but referring to it as a doomsday cult. I had a conversation with Jimmy (and his wife) several months ago. I could sense he was a bit down. He has had many "friends" turn on him. Funny how telling the truth tends to do that.
I have watched Jimmy Dore for years . He is very Irish in the way he is . You could pick him up and drop him into Ireland , and apart from his accent , no one would know the difference . I hear Jimmy getting irritated with Kurt now and then talking about having been brought up a witness . I would of thought that Kurt would recall his upbringing and see things differently , but he had a rough time , so may cancel everything out .
 

KingdomLeast

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Are you familiar with how the governing body reaches decisions? They discuss a matter, pray about it,
You actually think those old farts pray about anything??? It's a business, and like a business they make decisions on what's best for it.

and then they take a vote. A show of hands. Since when did Jehovah ever use a democratic vote to establish his instructions to us?
Oh ... I thought they drew straws like the Apostles did.

If you are here to prove that the governing body haven't lied then do so.
If their lips move when they speak ... they lie.
 
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Jahrule

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Kurt certainly is intelligent. Quick wit.

Watching Jimmy has in part helped me to keep my sanity these past several years. He "gets it". He sees things for what they truly are. I think he is a man of principle and character. He and Stef are a sweet down to earth couple. Good hearts. Like I said, he really did seem down when I spoke to him. I told him that what he did was not only funny, but important. His commentary. He looked down and said, "Well, some people don't think so". I felt badly for him at that moment.
I still remember when Jimmy was one of the Young Turks. One time he got drunk and spit on Alex Jones. I don't know when he switched sides. He used to be one of the regressive leftists. He was just as bad as Cenk. Dave Rubin was the first to leave TYT. Then I guess Jimmy followed, but I still prefer Dave Rubin. They were both on TYT at one time, but Dave never seemed regressive, even though I'm pretty sure he's gay. Nevertheless, I still got a lot of respect for him.
 

Jim

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I still remember when Jimmy was one of the Young Turks. One time he got drunk and spit on Alex Jones. I don't know when he switched sides. He used to be one of the regressive leftists. He was just as bad as Cenk. Dave Rubin was the first to leave TYT. Then I guess Jimmy followed, but I still prefer Dave Rubin. They were both on TYT at one time, but Dave never seemed regressive, even though I'm pretty sure he's gay. Nevertheless, I still got a lot of respect for him.
Yes. I frequently watch Dave Rubin. Jimmy was not on my radar that far back. I think he has mellowed out. I believe his wife has a lot to do with that. Jimmy is such an effective communicator. I of just average intelligence, understand his arguments. I went to a Jordon Peterson lecture in February. I really had a hard time following his thought process (or maybe it is just his extensive vocabulary). At one point I wondered if I was listening to the ravings of a madman, although at other times I did find myself nodding in agreement with him.
 

Jahrule

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Yes. I frequently watch Dave Rubin. Jimmy was not on my radar that far back. I think he has mellowed out. I believe his wife has a lot to do with that. Jimmy is such an effective communicator. I of just average intelligence, understand his arguments. I went to a Jordon Peterson lecture in February. I really had a hard time following his thought process (or maybe it is just his extensive vocabulary). At one point I wondered if I was listening to the ravings of a madman, although at other times I did find myself nodding in agreement with him.
That was way back in my atheist days. It was when I started becoming disillusioned with the left. Atheism Is Unstoppable was the guy that broke me out of my leftist stupor, even though he is technically on the left. Watching his TYT takedowns became one of my favorite things. TYT hasn't gotten any better. That's for sure. Respect to Dore for getting out of there.
 

JMJLG

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That was way back in my atheist days. It was when I started becoming disillusioned with the left. Atheism Is Unstoppable was the guy that broke me out of my leftist stupor, even though he is technically on the left. Watching his TYT takedowns became one of my favorite things. TYT hasn't gotten any better. That's for sure. Respect to Dore for getting out of there.
Jimmy spoke out against everything bad on TYT . He has got so many things spot on , but when he does not know what is happening , as was with Zionism , he was not afraid to state as much and listen . He is also fortunate to have some very good friends . Aaron and Gabor Maté , Max Blumenthal , and more . I live in the U,K, but have followed Jimmy for years .
 

Jahrule

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Jimmy spoke out against everything bad on TYT . He has got so many things spot on , but when he does not know what is happening , as was with Zionism , he was not afraid to state as much and listen . He is also fortunate to have some very good friends . Aaron and Gabor Maté , Max Blumenthal , and more . I live in the U,K, but have followed Jimmy for years .
I knew a very different Jimmy prior to 2016. He wasn't doing much calling out back then. I would have noticed. The only one calling out TYT back then I followed was AIU. At one time Dore was hard core on the left. But then again, so was I. I used to love TYT. LOL. That shows how brain dead I was back then. Additionally, I'm also speaking as a former atheist. Mom and I used to get into serious political arguments. Turns out she was right more often than not. So if I can change so can Jimmy.
 

JMJLG

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I knew a very different Jimmy prior to 2016. He wasn't doing much calling out back then. I would have noticed. The only one calling out TYT back then I followed was AIU. At one time Dore was hard core on the left. But then again, so was I. I used to love TYT. LOL. That shows how brain dead I was back then. Additionally, I'm also speaking as a former atheist. Mom and I used to get into serious political arguments. Turns out she was right more often than not. So if I can change so can Jimmy.
T.Y.T took a 20 million dollar donation from Jeffrey Katzenberg . They then attempted to smear Jimmy . I do think that Jimmy has gone from just a comedian , to a very aware political comedian , and activist . I have seen him get better over time , but we have all learned a lot more over time . He has stopped smoking weed as well , so maybe that has also helped .

https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/young-turks-jeffrey-katzenberg-wndrco-funding-1202518938/

 
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