Watchman's Witnesses

Jahrule

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T.Y.T took a 20 million dollar donation from Jeffrey Katzenberg . They then attempted to smear Jimmy . I do think that Jimmy has gone from just a comedian , to a very aware political comedian , and activist . I have seen him get better over time , but we have all learned a lot more over time . He has stopped smoking weed as well , so maybe that has also helped .

https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/young-turks-jeffrey-katzenberg-wndrco-funding-1202518938/

Indeed. It's very easy to get caught up in the moment. Furthermore, none of this stuff surprises me, with them smearing Jimmy. TYT does that stuff to everyone who opposes them. They're liars, and Cenk is a buffoon. He used to regularly deny the Armenian genocide. They're also funded by terrorist organizations. I can't stand TYT.
 

Jim

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Jimmy spoke out against everything bad on TYT . He has got so many things spot on , but when he does not know what is happening , as was with Zionism , he was not afraid to state as much and listen . He is also fortunate to have some very good friends . Aaron and Gabor Maté , Max Blumenthal , and more . I live in the U,K, but have followed Jimmy for years .
I didn't know you were in the UK.... I spend two weeks a year in Huntingdon. England. My daughter lives there. My Grand kids are US/UK dual citizens. My fist trip to the UK years ago, I was dismayed by all of the American fast-food restaurants. But I did like the Pizza Hut in Peterborough. Cheers!
 

JMJLG

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I didn't know you were in the UK.... I spend two weeks a year in Huntingdon. England. My daughter lives there. My Grand kids are US/UK dual citizens. My fist trip to the UK years ago, I was dismayed by all of the American fast-food restaurants. But I did like the Pizza Hut in Peterborough. Cheers!
I am Irish , but live at the bottom end , in Cornwall . I think that Pizza hut went out of business , but maybe they just moved away from Cornwall. The U.K. is very much home for U.S. fast food though . The first time I had a KFC , it was dark , and I pulled off all the coating thinking it was bones . Kind of defeated the object of buying it .
 

PJ54

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I thought that was Summit? You allowed Cristo back after the kerfuffle about the Sacred Secret and he hasn’t been banned again as far as I remember. Summit did provoke you to ban him, claiming he would come back under some new name. Which honestly I never understood since he had made some great points early on, so his 180 turn into a-hole land caught me by surprise.
Yes, I banned him again a few weeks ago when he revived the thread I had originally banned him over for trying to get the last word in. :rolleyes:
I remember seeing it & I have to wonder if he has fallen prey to the doctrine of Calvinism.
 

Carl

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I remember seeing it & I have to wonder if he has fallen prey to the doctrine of Calvinism.
I hope he hasn't, predestination is a dangerous path. It can make you overconfident, like the "once saved, always saved" crowd... or a deflated, self-loathing nihilist who believes they're doomed no matter what they do. He got pretty hung up on his beliefs about the Sacred Secret, which was unnecessary. It's one thing to voice an opinion, but when arrogance take over, then you're at risk of falling for the satanic trap of over-confidence in your own conjecture. This can lead to delusions of grandeur, and open the door for Satan to trick you into believing you're one of the Chosen. I'm not accusing anyone of this, but it's always a risk when you start believing in your own conjecture too much. That's why the Bible warns about getting puffed up. I was at risk of this myself, so I understand the pull it has.

I had a nice discussion with my sons and their priest about the SS. They fall more in the camp of Cristo's thinking, while I'm more in line with Robert's. I was confused when the topic first came up due to the fact that Jehovah stated He knows the end from the beginning, but Nomex helped me understand that Jehovah can choose to know and not know certain things. This makes sense to me. If Jehovah knows everything, all the time, what fun would that be for Him? Why create something if He already knew He would destroy it? Obviously, He knew He would have to destroy the wicked if free will resulted in it, which was why He created the SS; but that doesn't mean He choose to know each and ever person's final destination on day 1 of creation. The SS was created as a failsafe in case humanity's use of free will devolved the world into the cesspool it is. It wasn't created because Jehovah knew it would. If it turns out I'm wrong, then so be it, but no human is going to convince me Jehovah gave a loaded firearm to a psychopath (Satan), knowing he would in turn ruin creation.
 

PJ54

Well-known member
I hope he hasn't, predestination is a dangerous path. It can make you overconfident, like the "once saved, always saved" crowd... or a deflated, self-loathing nihilist who believes they're doomed no matter what they do. He got pretty hung up on his beliefs about the Sacred Secret, which was unnecessary. It's one thing to voice an opinion, but when arrogance take over, then you're at risk of falling for the satanic trap of over-confidence in your own conjecture. This can lead to delusions of grandeur, and open the door for Satan to trick you into believing you're one of the Chosen. I'm not accusing anyone of this, but it's always a risk when you start believing in your own conjecture too much. That's why the Bible warns about getting puffed up. I was at risk of this myself, so I understand the pull it has.

I had a nice discussion with my sons and their priest about the SS. They fall more in the camp of Cristo's thinking, while I'm more in line with Robert's. I was confused when the topic first came up due to the fact that Jehovah stated He knows the end from the beginning, but Nomex helped me understand that Jehovah can choose to know and not know certain things. This makes sense to me. If Jehovah knows everything, all the time, what fun would that be for Him? Why create something if He already knew He would destroy it? Obviously, He knew He would have to destroy the wicked if free will resulted in it, which was why He created the SS; but that doesn't mean He choose to know each and ever person's final destination on day 1 of creation. The SS was created as a failsafe in case humanity's use of free will devolved the world into the cesspool it is. It wasn't created because Jehovah knew it would. If it turns out I'm wrong, then so be it, but no human is going to convince me Jehovah gave a loaded firearm to a psychopath (Satan), knowing he would in turn ruin creation.
I found some videos that show the mindset of a Calvinist. It sounds a lot like what Stephen Lett said about babies but WAY nastier. Here they are.

 

PJ54

Well-known member
I found some videos that show the mindset of a Calvinist. It sounds a lot like what Stephen Lett said about babies but WAY nastier. Here they are.

Just to add on, these posts go into more their mindset. People like Calvin & Edwards have done much harm to many.
 

Carl

Well-known member
I found some videos that show the mindset of a Calvinist. It sounds a lot like what Stephen Lett said about babies but WAY nastier. Here they are.

To me, being born in sin means being born with imperfect genes that lead to death, and being born with the impossibility of remaining sinless. It doesn't mean babies are sinners, because babies can't sin... sin requires intent. Most young kids who "sin" are simply mirroring sinful behavior. At what age actual sinful intent is determined is above my spiritual pay grade.
 

BagdadBill

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To me, being born in sin means being born with imperfect genes that lead to death, and being born with the impossibility of remaining sinless. It doesn't mean babies are sinners, because babies can't sin... sin requires intent. Most young kids who "sin" are simply mirroring sinful behavior. At what age actual sinful intent is determined is above my spiritual pay grade.
Just like racism has to be learned. Some seem to come by it naturally but most learn it from the people around them.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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Like what this girl is saying, that we are witnesses of watchman... Its like... Girl, what? Haha.
Probably a WT troll trying to make us into idol worshippers of Robert because they have to protect their idol by demonizing those of us who love truth. Robert is only explaining the truth about prophecy that WT doesn’t do. It’s as if the persons who made this thread are saying: “Is it really so what Robert is saying true?”

It‘s strange that they haven’t come back on here since this thread was posted.
 
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SusanB

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Probably a WT troll trying to make us into idol worshippers of Robert because they have to protect their idol by demonizing those of us who love truth. Robert is only explaining the truth about prophecy that WT won’t do. It’s as if the persons who made this thread are saying: “Is it really so what Robert is saying true?”

It‘s strange that they haven’t come back on here since this thread was posted.
They got “outed”. I know Daryl was a previous forum member with an axe to grind. I suspect I know who Lily is as well but I don’t want to say.
 

SollaSollew

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It's idol worship, and Watchman does nothing but promote it and feed on it by his own witnesses who place him on a pedestal. Shame Shame Shame for him and all who venerate him to the point of making him such.
Can you quote an example of anyone "venerating" Robert or are you just going to strawman your vitriol?
Webster Dictionary - Venerate: to honor (an icon, a relic, etc.) with a ritual act of devotion.
 
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Daryl

Guest
First and foremost, I am Daryl nobody else. How funny those who want to silence truth like to associate those who are no longer here to the words I speak. They are lost and delusional and are in denial of what they themselves know to be idolization. Because I speak what is true you instantly suggest it is those who have been banned and ostracized to make yourselves feel better. WAKE UP!

This forum isn’t just about Robert, it’s about all of those here who are wanting to help and support one another in their time of need.
When I at first came on here I told myself that I’m wasn’t going to follow any man or group. My God is Jehovah and He wants exclusive devotion.
Robert as well as others here help us to focus on our worship and relationship with Jehovah.

I feel sorry for people like Daryl and Lily who can’t find anything nice to say to help by being encouraging to ones here. Instead they want to bash the one who’s responsible for us to be able to come on here and help build one another up. Are you familiar with the direction in Proverbs which says;
“By iron, iron itself is sharpened. So one man sharpens the face of another.” —Proverbs 27:17

By your own volition you state what I say is true. This site is supposed to be about Jehovah and Jesus Christ and his message, not ABOUT anybody else. WAKE UP!
 

Watchman

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Staff member
First and foremost, I am Daryl nobody else. How funny those who want to silence truth like to associate those who are no longer here to the words I speak. They are lost and delusional and are in denial of what they themselves know to be idolization. Because I speak what is true you instantly suggest it is those who have been banned and ostracized to make yourselves feel better. WAKE UP! By your own volition you state what I say is true. This site is supposed to be about Jehovah and Jesus Christ and his message, not ABOUT anybody else. WAKE UP!
The Internet is a conman's paradise. The thing is, we are awake. That's why we are not putting up with you.
 
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