Watchtower Study-September 22, 2024- Do You Recognize the Truth?

[Serenity]

I used to listen to Mark Martin until insisting Christ being the mediator for everyone

Please Goldie after listen to Mark on the subject then listen to the truth

I listened to a couple, maybe a few, of Martin's videos, some time ago but didn't agree with some things that he said so I stopped watching his videos. I listened to a couple, or a few, of Beroean Pickets videos but didn't agree with some things that he said and so stopped watching his posts as well.

I don't watch Ex-JW YouTube videos as a practice. I've watched some in the past out of curiosity or when searching for answers. But I basically avoid ex-JW videos as a principal.

Robert King is different than the typical ex-JWs that are out there in that he recognizes that JWs do have the truth, that Jehovah has used the organization to preach the good news kingdom, as fortold and commanded by Jesus Christ, and the basic Bible truths Matthew w4:14 ;28:19, 20. But he also gas come to realze that there are erroneous teachings, wicked men within, as was fortold there would be and the organization has committed sins, and will be judged, as was fortold in the Bible.

 

[Watchman]

I listened to a couple, maybe a few, of Martin's videos, some time ago but didn't agree with some things that he said so I stopped watching his videos. I listened to a couple, or a few, of Beroean Pickets videos but didn't agree with some things that he said and so stopped watching his posts as well.

I don't watch Ex-JW YouTube videos as a practice. I've watched some in the past out of curiosity or when searching for answers. But I basically avoid ex-JW videos as a principal.

'Robert King is different than the typical ex-JWs that are out there in that he recognizes that JWs do have the truth, that Jehovah has used the organization to preach the kingdom and the basic truth, but that there are erroneous teachings, wicked men within, as was fortold there would be and the organization has committed sins and will be judged, as was fortold in the Bible.

Boom! And why don't the ex-J dub crowd link up with me? Because I speak in the name of Jehovah. I am not ashamed to call Jehovah my God. Jehovah is my God.

 

[Watchman]

I can't wait until the real fight begins. These demonic Bozos and flat earth morons have no idea who they are dealing with.

 

[a watcher]

Boom! And why don't the ex-J dub crowd link up with me? Because I speak in the name of Jehovah. I am not ashamed to call Jehovah my God. Jehovah is my God.

Ex-JWs have thrown the baby (Jehovah) out with the bathwater (WT).

 

[Watchman]

Ex-JWs have thrown the baby (Jehovah) out with the bathwater (WT).

Or, may be he has thrown them out

 

[Niobium]

I listened to a couple, maybe a few, of Martin's videos, some time ago but didn't agree with some things that he said so I stopped watching his videos. I listened to a couple, or a few, of Beroean Pickets videos but didn't agree with some things that he said and so stopped watching his posts as well.

I don't watch Ex-JW YouTube videos as a practice. I've watched some in the past out of curiosity or when searching for answers. But I basically avoid ex-JW videos as a principal.

Robert King is different than the typical ex-JWs that are out there in that he recognizes that JWs do have the truth, that Jehovah has used the organization to preach the good news kingdom, as fortold and commanded by Jesus Christ, and the basic Bible truths Matthew w4:14 ;28:19, 20. But he also gas come to realze recognizes that JWs do have the truth, that Jehovah has used the organization to preach the good news kingdom, as was fortold there would be and the organization has committed sins, and will be judged, as was fortold in the Bible.

Yes I have done exactly the same thing. Mark Martin and Beroean Pickets do have some good points to make but then they suddenly make a turn into areas that I find rather difficult to accept, although I do still watch from time to time if the topic looks worth listening to. As you said Robert "recognizes that JWs do have the truth, that Jehovah has used the organization to preach the good news kingdom" ......" and will be judged" ( In summary)

I really wonder how many JW's look at Roberts work and see the ring of truth permeating through his writings. Maybe more than we think. It's not difficult to spot the truth when it jumps out from the pages as it does in the case of revealing the 1914 hoax that has been perpetrated for so many years, for example. Even the GB must know that and the "overlapping generation" obfuscation only served to add fuel to the fire. I have yet to meet a JW who actually understands and agrees with that load of (you can supply appropriate word). As has been mentioned the tendency to put those who we find give us what we need on a pedestal and drift into idolatry territory, has to be avoided, but there is nothing wrong in giving due recognition to someone who has spent a lot of time and I believe also money in providing a source of information that helps us to keep on the "narrow" path to life. Thanks Robert !

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

Wt is not my mother either mick! Never was.

Keep in mind that at Galatians 4: 26 is referring to Jerusalem (wt) being our mother was only referring to those of the anointed…ie those who partake.
We can’t have it both ways or pick and choose scripture to support our ‘belief.’

 

[Seventy5]

No, I’m not. I know my right hand from my left. You know what I mean?

And yet you misconstrued what I wrote. I wrote "for sure we only put our trust in Jesus and Jehovah" So why would that be misconstrued as me implying that Jesus was virtue signaling, because he said to Satan "...you must worship Jehovah your God and it is to him alone you must render sacred service...".
And because you got the wrong end of the stick you felt the need to say "I never said anything about blasphemy" But you're not stupid are you?

This is ( or words similar ) what you and others on the forum have said "I follow no man" virtue signaling prehaps. As if following someone was a bad thing or blasphemous.

 

[Seventy5]

When Jesus explained his two parables of the wheat and the weeds and the dragnet, he asked his disciples if they had gotten the sense of it. They said they had. Both of the illustrations had to do with the wicked being removed from Christ's congregation. So, I ask you all, do you get the sense of it?

The unsuitable fish were thrown away, so too the weeds were burned in the fiery furnace, but the fine fish were collected into containers, and the wheat into the masters storehouse.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Ok, thanks even though your answer wasn't directed specifically to us. We now understand the point you were taking issue on and agree completely. That's why we are here - we absolutely believe WT is Jehovah's organization! May not understand how He can display such patience but that's not our call.

What I don't understand is, if Jehovah is still with the Watchtower org and still backing it, aren't WE still supposed to be in the org showing support for Jehovah? This bit is all very confusing to me because I too believe Jehovah is still using the Watchtower to get the preaching work done, but I just can't bring myself to go back to the kingdom hall and assemblies, the door to door and trolley work, for so many reasons. If I'd have been at the hall Sunday just gone I would have had to leave, I can't keep doing that, it's stupid. If someone in the ministry told me that their family member died because of the injections and asked me if jws went along with it all, I'd be embarrassed and ashamed by that topic and would struggle to reply with the "right" answer, "right" in the eyes of whatever witness I was accompanying that day, "right" in the eyes of Jehovah, "right" in the eyes of the person who asked the question in the first place (bearing in mind we're supposed to be helping them draw close to Jehovah) It's all a blooming big mess, caused by the very people that Jehovah asks us to show respect to and obey. And it's totally changed my life, and I don't know for sure if Jehovah is ok or not with how I'm living my life now, since all the craziness

 

[Niobium]

What I don't understand is, if Jehovah is still with the Watchtower org and still backing it, aren't WE still supposed to be in the org showing support for Jehovah? This bit is all very confusing to me because I too believe Jehovah is still using the Watchtower to get the preaching work done, but I just can't bring myself to go back to the kingdom hall and assemblies, the door to door and trolley work, for so many reasons. If I'd have been at the hall Sunday just gone I would have had to leave, I can't keep doing that, it's stupid. If someone in the ministry told me that their family member died because of the injections and asked me if jws went along with it all, I'd be embarrassed and ashamed by that topic and would struggle to reply with the "right" answer, "right" in the eyes of whatever witness I was accompanying that day, "right" in the eyes of Jehovah, "right" in the eyes of the person who asked the question in the first place (bearing in mind we're supposed to be helping them draw close to Jehovah) It's all a blooming big mess, caused by the very people that Jehovah asks us to show respect to and obey. And it's totally changed my life, and I don't know for sure if Jehovah is ok or not with how I'm living my life now, since all the craziness

It's all very confusing isn't it. But we all have different circumstances. I for one still attend the meetings even though I find it tough to do so at times. The last WT study being an example. I know that many on this forum cannot do that and that is fine. I gain some kind of comfort that in the past when Jehovah's people, the Israelites, went astray, there were still some who served him faithfully despite the situation that they found themselves in. And Jehovah blessed their efforts. I use the meetings as an opportunity to engage in "spiritual" conversation and when the time seems right I throw a crumb or two in the other persons direction regarding some teaching ( like the overlapping generation) to see what reaction I get. Sometimes just a blank stare, other times I see a light gradually being turned on, although quite dim initially. Of course this has to be done tactfully and without raising red flags or alarm bells going off, but so far I believe I've had a modicum of success in stirring the cognitive powers in some to make them think a bit more about what they believe is the "truth."
As far as the ministry is concerned, I do suffer with health problems so I don't join in the FS arrangements so much and everyone seems to understand that I am limited in what I can do. Made a lot easier now we don't have to give a report as to the number of hours spent in the FS. So I tend to be able to avoid situations where I might have to compromise what I believe in that is in opposition to what the WT teaches. In my case, I believe that Jehovah is helping me to help others that I think will respond to a little nudging and who knows whether they already have doubts but cannot express that openly. But this may not work for everyone, and that is understandable.
We all have some role to play and I believe that Jehovah answers our prayers as to what that role can be, whether it involves "remaining" in the Organization or leaving it. I firmly believe Jehovah will guide you in what direction to go.

 

[Edith]

What I don't understand is, if Jehovah is still with the Watchtower org and still backing it, aren't WE still supposed to be in the org showing support for Jehovah? This bit is all very confusing to me because I too believe Jehovah is still using the Watchtower to get the preaching work done, but I just can't bring myself to go back to the kingdom hall and assemblies, the door to door and trolley work, for so many reasons. If I'd have been at the hall Sunday just gone I would have had to leave, I can't keep doing that, it's stupid. If someone in the ministry told me that their family member died because of the injections and asked me if jws went along with it all, I'd be embarrassed and ashamed by that topic and would struggle to reply with the "right" answer, "right" in the eyes of whatever witness I was accompanying that day, "right" in the eyes of Jehovah, "right" in the eyes of the person who asked the question in the first place (bearing in mind we're supposed to be helping them draw close to Jehovah) It's all a blooming big mess, caused by the very people that Jehovah asks us to show respect to and obey. And it's totally changed my life, and I don't know for sure if Jehovah is ok or not with how I'm living my life now, since all the craziness

Ask yourself what does it mean to you to 'support Jehovah'? What does 'love for Jehovah' mean to you and how would you like to teach that to someone else?
What does it mean to you to 'be obedient' and then also ask yourself 'Obedient to whom or what'?

I myself do not go to the KH, nor am I on zoom, because I simply cannot keep my mouth shut, simple. But I have not been disfellowshipped (yet) and I still do field service with several sisters every week. And I do this by helping them make cards and then in such a way that I only use the Bible and never refer to JW.org, although I do get the subjects from the various publications. Which can be put in a mailbox or, while walking with my dog, can be given to someone along the way. In this way I support Jehovah, am obedient to the command of Jesus, but do not compromise myself to the lies of the WT.

 

[Serenity]

It's not difficult to spot the truth when it jumps out from the pages as it does in the case of revealing the 1914 hoax that has been perpetrated for so many years, for example. Even the GB must know that and the "overlapping generation" obfuscation only served to add fuel to the fire. I have yet to meet a JW who actually understands and agrees with that load of (you can supply appropriate word).

In the case of 1914, it's sad that you can't really read or study a Watchtower publication that covers basic Bible teachings without encountering the 1914 doctrine. And, really, an invisible presence is not verifiable. There is no way to verify or prove the "invisible parousia" or invisible presence of Jesus Christ. In order to believe in the 1914 doctrine, one must rely on the calculations of a man, or men, and trust that they are correct and reliable. It really requires trusting in men, which the Bible tells us not to do. Since Jesus said no one knows the day or the hour, not even the angels in heaven, but only the Father, you'd think that would settle the "when" question; "When will these things be?"

"Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." Matthew 24:36

The answer is clear and simple.

If the day and the hour were able to be calculated by the Bible, don't you think that the angels, who are superior to humans, would be able to calculate when these things would be from the Bible? Yet, the Bible says they don't know. And wouldn't the Son of God be able to calculate when these things would occur by using the Bible? Yet, the Bible says, in fact Jesus himself says, he doesn't know. So, if neither Jesus nor the angels know, how can any humans claim to know what only the Father knows? Matthew 24:36

Jehovah, on the other hand, knows the day and the hour. So, He has his own schedule. Jehovah is not subject to man's calculations or any man-devised timetable. He is certainly not subject to the occult art of pyramidology, which Russell used to calculate 1914.

 

[Patricia]

What I don't understand is, if Jehovah is still with the Watchtower org and still backing it, aren't WE still supposed to be in the org showing support for Jehovah? This bit is all very confusing to me because I too believe Jehovah is still using the Watchtower to get the preaching work done, but I just can't bring myself to go back to the kingdom hall and assemblies, the door to door and trolley work, for so many reasons. If I'd have been at the hall Sunday just gone I would have had to leave, I can't keep doing that, it's stupid. If someone in the ministry told me that their family member died because of the injections and asked me if jws went along with it all, I'd be embarrassed and ashamed by that topic and would struggle to reply with the "right" answer, "right" in the eyes of whatever witness I was accompanying that day, "right" in the eyes of Jehovah, "right" in the eyes of the person who asked the question in the first place (bearing in mind we're supposed to be helping them draw close to Jehovah) It's all a blooming big mess, caused by the very people that Jehovah asks us to show respect to and obey. And it's totally changed my life, and I don't know for sure if Jehovah is ok or not with how I'm living my life now, since all the craziness

@Proverbs, I'm right there with you in all that you said. And this back and forth inside my head causes a ton of anxiety.
I keep asking Jehovah for the answer, but...

 

[Watchman]

In the case of 1914, it's sad that you can't really read or study a Watchtower publication that covers basic Bible teachings without encountering the 1914 doctrine. And, really, an invisible presence is not verifiable. There is no way to verify or prove the "invisible parousia" or invisible presence of Jesus Christ. In order to believe in the 1914 doctrine, one must rely on the calculations of a man, or men, and trust that they are correct and reliable. It really requires trusting in men, which the Bible tells us not to do. Since Jesus said no one knows the day or the hour, not even the angels in heaven, but only the Father, you'd think that would settle the "when" question; "When will these things be?"

"Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." Matthew 24:36

The answer is clear and simple.

If the day and the hour were able to be calculated by the Bible, don't you think that the angels, who are superior to humans, would be able to calculate when these things would be from the Bible? Yet, the Bible says they don't know. And wouldn't the Son of God be able to calculate when these things would occur by using the Bible? Yet, the Bible says, in fact Jesus himself says, he doesn't know. So, if neither Jesus nor the angels know, how can any humans claim to know what only the Father knows? Matthew 24:36

Jehovah, on the other hand, knows the day and the hour. So, He has his own schedule. Jehovah is not subject to man's calculations or any man-devised timetable. He is certainly not subject to the occult art of pyramidology, which Russell used to calculate 1914.

Jehovah's Witnesses claim that the tribulation begins on an unknowable day and hour, which is believed to segue into Armageddon. The Watchtower has turned the coming of Christ, the parousia and the eviction of the demons from heaven into non-events.

 

[BagdadBill]

If someone in the ministry told me that their family member died because of the injections and asked me if jws went along with it all, I'd be embarrassed and ashamed by that topic and would struggle to reply with the "right" answer, "right" in the eyes of whatever witness I was accompanying that day, "right" in the eyes of Jehovah, "right" in the eyes of the person who asked the question in the first place (bearing in mind we're supposed to be helping them draw close to Jehovah) It's all a blooming big mess, caused by the very people that Jehovah asks us to show respect to and obey. And it's totally changed my life, and I don't know for sure if Jehovah is ok or not with how I'm living my life now, since all the craziness

One of the things that I noticed and filed away before I got baptized was that JW associate salvation with meeting attendance as well as doing everything else they tell you. In the 1st century, meeting with others of this newfound religion Christianity was a huge deal because there was only one way and one belief. Association is no less important now but what do we do when it just doesn't feel right?
Just on the chance that someone I meet while out preaching, may have watched the video of David Splane trying to imply that the covid jab was from our God, that would be enough to make me hang my head in shame and walk away without a reply.
It's not like I can say any longer, yes they got that wrong but look at what they got right. Instead, I focus on what I know is right and I use that to speak to others. I don't even look at the website or try to read their materials these days. They insert videos into articles that you have to watch and everything they produce now feels watered down or dumbed down.
The foundation I got is still true with a few items that had to be dropped off. That list of basic teachings such as God, Jesus, Hell, Immortal Soul are enough to stand on and help others or at least water them a little with truth from our Creator.
With so much lying in the world right now, we have to direct people to the source of truth which is Jehovah and his word. You don't need an official Watchtower badge to do that.

 

[Goldie]

@Proverbs, I'm right there with you in all that you said. And this back and forth inside my head causes a ton of anxiety.
I keep asking Jehovah for the answer, but...

Same.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

One of the things that I noticed and filed away before I got baptized was that JW associate salvation with meeting attendance as well as doing everything else they tell you. In the 1st century, meeting with others of this newfound religion Christianity was a huge deal because there was only one way and one belief. Association is no less important now but what do we do when it just doesn't feel right?
Just on the chance that someone I meet while out preaching, may have watched the video of David Splane trying to imply that the covid jab was from our God, that would be enough to make me hang my head in shame and walk away without a reply.
It's not like I can say any longer, yes they got that wrong but look at what they got right. Instead, I focus on what I know is right and I use that to speak to others. I don't even look at the website or try to read their materials these days. They insert videos into articles that you have to watch and everything they produce now feels watered down or dumbed down.
The foundation I got is still true with a few items that had to be dropped off. That list of basic teachings such as God, Jesus, Hell, Immortal Soul are enough to stand on and help others or at least water them a little with truth from our Creator.
With so much lying in the world right now, we have to direct people to the source of truth which is Jehovah and his word. You don't need an official Watchtower badge to do that.

That's all so true, I never direct people anymore to the website. Everything I do and say is ok because I do it or say it alone, without another brother or sister with me to hear how "bad" I've gone. That's why it just wouldn't work if I went "back" to my previous "life" I'd get shut down and in trouble. They said in the Watchtower that we must keep very far away from those in the congregation who don't agree with everything the watchtower teachers, they reiterated not just "avoid" but keep FAR away. When I hear all this distressing talk it makes ME feel like keeping far away from THEM, in order to keep the peace to a certain extent

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

@Proverbs, I'm right there with you in all that you said. And this back and forth inside my head causes a ton of anxiety.
I keep asking Jehovah for the answer, but...

It's soooo wrong that they've done this to us isn't it? All because they refused to stay neutral and leave us to make our own decisions, just like they've always told US to. At least here on this forum we can all relate to eachother and empathise with eachother, for which I am very grateful to Jehovah for

 

[BagdadBill]

That's all so true, I never direct people anymore to the website. Everything I do and say is ok because I do it or say it alone, without another brother or sister with me to hear how "bad" I've gone. That's why it just wouldn't work if I went "back" to my previous "life" I'd get shut down and in trouble. They said in the Watchtower that we must keep very far away from those in the congregation who don't agree with everything the watchtower teachers, they reiterated not just "avoid" but keep FAR away. When I hear all this distressing talk it makes ME feel like keeping far away from THEM, in order to keep the peace to a certain extent

I had to break away from them mentally before I could begin to read scripture without their filter overlayed on top of it. For me, I've been away so long that I could never go back without tripping over myself trying to do doublespeak to protect what I really believe. All my brothers and sisters don't even see the great tribulation mounting because they think it's already happening. Taking injections that I wouldn't even give to my cats. I can't watch that. Now I am wondering what it looks like death wise since the jab.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

It's all very confusing isn't it. But we all have different circumstances. I for one still attend the meetings even though I find it tough to do so at times. The last WT study being an example. I know that many on this forum cannot do that and that is fine. I gain some kind of comfort that in the past when Jehovah's people, the Israelites, went astray, there were still some who served him faithfully despite the situation that they found themselves in. And Jehovah blessed their efforts. I use the meetings as an opportunity to engage in "spiritual" conversation and when the time seems right I throw a crumb or two in the other persons direction regarding some teaching ( like the overlapping generation) to see what reaction I get. Sometimes just a blank stare, other times I see a light gradually being turned on, although quite dim initially. Of course this has to be done tactfully and without raising red flags or alarm bells going off, but so far I believe I've had a modicum of success in stirring the cognitive powers in some to make them think a bit more about what they believe is the "truth."
As far as the ministry is concerned, I do suffer with health problems so I don't join in the FS arrangements so much and everyone seems to understand that I am limited in what I can do. Made a lot easier now we don't have to give a report as to the number of hours spent in the FS. So I tend to be able to avoid situations where I might have to compromise what I believe in that is in opposition to what the WT teaches. In my case, I believe that Jehovah is helping me to help others that I think will respond to a little nudging and who knows whether they already have doubts but cannot express that openly. But this may not work for everyone, and that is understandable.
We all have some role to play and I believe that Jehovah answers our prayers as to what that role can be, whether it involves "remaining" in the Organization or leaving it. I firmly believe Jehovah will guide you in what direction to go.

Thanks for saying all that, it makes me feel a little better now. You wouldn't be able to throw any crumbs in my congregation, you'd be stopped in your tracks and counselled for it. There's a hardcore of rigid ones in my congregation and unfortunately they have a lot of power. You're right though, Jehovah does have a place for all of us and as long as we're not burying our talent that's good enough for him eh?

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Ask yourself what does it mean to you to 'support Jehovah'? What does 'love for Jehovah' mean to you and how would you like to teach that to someone else?
What does it mean to you to 'be obedient' and then also ask yourself 'Obedient to whom or what'?

I myself do not go to the KH, nor am I on zoom, because I simply cannot keep my mouth shut, simple. But I have not been disfellowshipped (yet) and I still do field service with several sisters every week. And I do this by helping them make cards and then in such a way that I only use the Bible and never refer to JW.org, although I do get the subjects from the various publications. Which can be put in a mailbox or, while walking with my dog, can be given to someone along the way. In this way I support Jehovah, am obedient to the command of Jesus, but do not compromise myself to the lies of the WT.

Very good Edith but how bad things are that we have to duck and dive around, such a shame when we're all supposed to be on the same wavelength

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Same.

I wish we could all meet up with eachother every now and then and give eachother a hug We're so far away from eachother that we might just aswell be living on the moon..

I had to break away from them mentally before I could begin to read scripture without their filter overlayed on top of it. For me, I've been away so long that I could never go back without tripping over myself trying to do doublespeak to protect what I really believe. All my brothers and sisters don't even see the great tribulation mounting because they think it's already happening. Taking injections that I wouldn't even give to my cats. I can't watch that. Now I am wondering what it looks like death wise since the jab.

Well they said at my hall on Sunday that there's so much "covid" in the congregation that they didn't have the time to read the names out..

 

[Goldie]

I wish we could all meet up with eachother every now and then and give eachother a hug We're so far away from eachother that we might just aswell be living on the moon..

Well they said at my hall on Sunday that there's so much "covid" in the congregation that they didn't have the time to read the names out..

"I'm up at 2 a.m., tossing and turning, worrying about all this. Am I doing the right thing? Is Satan misleading me? Are they really the true religion? How can they be when their very foundation was built on lies? Yet, they're doing the preaching work. But that's a false message.
Should I stay with them because they are God's people? But their leaders are wicked. But they teach truth, yet their prophecies are wrong. Good grief, my head is spinning. I'm extremely stressed.
Sometimes, I think I'm done with all this worrying – 'if I live, I live; if I die, I die.' But 10 minutes later, I'm back to researching again. I'm exhausted. All I want is truth!

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

"I'm up at 2 a.m., tossing and turning, worrying about all this. Am I doing the right thing? Is Satan misleading me? Are they really the true religion? How can they be when their very foundation was built on lies? Yet, they're doing the preaching work. But that's a false message.
Should I stay with them because they are God's people? But their leaders are wicked. But they teach truth, yet their prophecies are wrong. Good grief, my head is spinning. I'm extremely stressed.
Sometimes, I think I'm done with all this worrying – 'if I live, I live; if I die, I die.' But 10 minutes later, I'm back to researching again. I'm exhausted. All I want is truth!

Exactly the same as me! I'm fortunate enough to have a garden and so when I get the opportunity I dig around in the dirt and my mind is instantly away with the fairies! I can honestly say though, that I know for sure that Jehovah still helps me with stuff in my life and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't if he felt I'd left him or had turned against him. Do you find Jehovah still helps you in your day to day life problems?