Wednesday, Jan 24th - A note to Jehovah's Witnesses

Watchman

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With someone loyal you act in loyalty.—Ps. 18:25.

As we get closer to the end of this system of things, we can expect challenges to come from within the congregation. Those challenges could test our loyalty to Jehovah. So we must keep our senses. If you feel mistreated by a fellow Christian, do not allow yourself to become bitter. If you receive discipline, look beyond the embarrassment, accept the counsel, and make the needed adjustments. And when Jehovah’s organization makes changes that affect you personally, wholeheartedly accept them and obey the direction. Maintain your trust in Jehovah and his organization when your loyalty is tested. Stay calm, think clearly, and see matters from Jehovah’s perspective. Pray to Jehovah for help. And never isolate yourself from the congregation. Then, come what may, Satan will not be able to separate you from Jehovah or His organization.—Jas. 4:7. w22.11 24-25 ¶14-16
As we get closer and closer to the beginning of the end of this system we may be certain that Jehovah's organization will become more authoritarian and irrational. For a few years now, the WT has been conditioning JWs to expect to receive life-saving instructions that do not make any sense.

Notice the one phrase, because it is a mind-twister: "Maintain your trust in Jehovah and his organization when your loyalty is tested." We do well to consider the question, is it possible to trust Jehovah and distrust his organization? Probably the majority of JWs would not consider that a relevant question. It is as if the two come in a boxed set. But who has brought about that mindset? Jehovah or the Watchtower? Obviously, it is the latter, brought about by years of mental conditioning. JWs cannot conceive of Jehovah without the Watchtower, as if God could not even exist without it.

If you are a loyal JW I am here to tell you that your loyalty to Jehovah will absolutely be tested and it will be tested in a way that you cannot even conceive. But it must be that way. In the days to come you will have to decide whether to follow Jehovah or follow the Watchtower. One way will lead to life. The other way will result in everlasting death. And you will have to choose.

In his love Jehovah has made it easy for you, provided you love the truth. I will explain.

As it stands presently JWs do not need to choose. Most Jehovah's Witnesses are not aware that they have been deceived by what Paul called an operation of Satan. Bluntly, Jesus did not begin ruling in 1914. There is no such thing as an invisible parousia. Satan was not cast down in 1914. The time of the end has not begun. That is the delusion that is the core of the Watchtower and which is the operation of Satan that God allows to go to those who know the truth in order to test their love of the truth when the time comes.

I have spent the past two decades exposing this operation of Satan with very little success. And that is fine. I am just a slave of Christ who tries to do what has been assigned to me, the same as everyone else who calls upon the name of Jehovah. The relatively few JWs who have come to realize the deceptive influence that emanates from the WT find it difficult to carry on since their relationship with Jehovah and Jesus is bound up with the Watchtower. I know, it's complicated. That is why I do not encourage JWs to leave.

As Jehovah's Witnesses know, Satan has challenged God and he is also the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them night and day. No doubt one of the accusations is very similar to Job's case. The Devil contends that God has put a protective hedge around Christians in the form of an organization. Who can deny that the Watchtower controls the whole program? It is all laid out for you. You cannot even conceive of the Watchtower not being there. How could you even serve Jehovah without it? And, as already stated, they have convinced you that they will be there when it all comes down with their life-saving instructions.

But here's the deal: Since everything the Watchtower has taught about 1914 is wrong, what will happen when Christ comes for real? It will not be pretty. Nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom, you know the rest. Jesus said many will be stumbled and hate one another and betray one another. But why? Because it will become undeniable that the Watchtower has misled everyone. Even individual members of the Governing Body are going to be shaken to their core. Jehovah wants to find out if you will be loyal to him or to the organization that deceived you. At that point, loyalty will be mutually exclusive.

In his love, God has provided a sign. The Watchtower has stated for the record that whenever "they" are saying "peace and security" then the sudden destruction will come in the form of the great tribulation and the UN will destroy false religion. They have been saying that for years and years. Every JW knows it well. So, what if "they" make a dramatic announcement that disaster has been averted and there is global "peace and security" and then sudden destruction comes in the form of nations going to war and the entire system crashes?

I assure you in that scenario, the Watchtower will crash too. Maybe not entirely, but certainly, their authority as God's earthly mouthpiece will be gone. It will become apparent then that Jehovah's organization has been compromised, even by a disgusting thing! It is against that backdrop that Jesus' pre-issued life-saving instructions will become applicable: "Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment), then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains. Let the man on the housetop not come down to take the goods out of his house, and let the man in the field not return to pick up his outer garment...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short."

 
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Bk Kevin

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I just don't understand the part about not leaving. How does one stay?? I just can't live a lie.

Podcast #1​

This is the first of a renewed commitment to my regularly producing podcasts in order to answer questions from you, the listener. This episode considers questions regarding whether Jehovah’s Witnesses ought not to leave the Watchtower organization in view of its error and corruption. And is the Watchtower Babylon the Great?> https://e-watchman.com/podcast-1/
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Where do I go from here?> https://e-watchman.com/where-do-i-go-from-here2013818where-do-i-go-from-herewhere-do-i-go-from-here/

 

Watchman

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Staff member
I just don't understand the part about not leaving. How does one stay?? I just can't live a lie.
If I urged JWs to leave the WT I would be no different than the empty-headed XJW crowd. The fact is there will come a time when leaving will be imperative. And that is what I point forward to, such as in today's post. However, for those who have left already, I exhort you to be loyal to Jehovah. I would like to think our loyalty is even more appreciated by him.
 

goldie

Well-known member
If I urged JWs to leave the WT I would be no different than the empty-headed XJW crowd. The fact is there will come a time when leaving will be imperative. And that is what I point forward to, such as in today's post. However, for those who have left already, I exhort you to be loyal to Jehovah. I would like to think our loyalty is even more appreciated by him.
My whole goal in life is to stay loyal to Jehovah, with or without watchtower. But I get what you're saying.
 

barry

Well-known member
I've found Roberts website in the beginning when he started publishing and had the initial board. It's not always been easy, but at this time I'm still in good standing in the congregation after about 20 years of knowing about this.
The love for the friends helps me to stay and be there when these things happen. I'm hoping by being in a good standing I will be able to help them.
Surely I'm not going to compromise. I try to avoid getting into a situation that would make me do things I don't agree with. I'm just a regular publisher, so I don't need to give talks or parts. If there is an assignment like a 5 min talk I don't agree with, I will find a way around it. Up to now that hasn't been the case.
During WT/book studies, I often just read some scriptures, which is always a good thing and if the study is about something interesting, I will give regular comments.
I help out with regular tasks such as microphones, audio, platform etc.
Recently I was asked to assist our group overseer with service since there are no servants in our group.
So that way I can do whatever is needed to stay 'active' and be there.
I do pay attention to see if anyone would be waking up, but up to now it hasn't happened :oops:
When there is a talk I don't agree with or a WT it's not easy, but well, it's for the friends and during a difficult WT I hope I can do something like microphones or audio, so time passes quickly :cool:
 

lflynn22

Member
My whole goal in life is to stay loyal to Jehovah, with or without watchtower. But I get what you're saying.

According to Luke12:1-59​

44 I tell you truthfully, he will appoint him over all his belongings. 45 But if ever that slave should say in his heart, ‘My master delays coming,’ and starts to beat the male and female servants and to eat and drink and get drunk 46 the master of that slave will come on a day that he is not expecting him and at an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and assign him a part with the unfaithful ones. 47 Then that slave who understood the will of his master but did not get ready or do what he asked* will be beaten with many strokes. 48 But the one who did not understand and yet did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few. Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him.
 

Paul H

Well-known member

"In the days to come you will have to decide whether to follow Jehovah or follow the Watchtower. One way will lead to life. The other way will result in everlasting death. And you will have to choose."
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"The Devil contends that God has put a protective hedge around Christians in the form of an organization."
(Satan is like a roaring lion outside, behind the protective wall of the organization")
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Revvzone

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Stay calm, think clearly, and see matters from Jehovah’s perspective?

Unfortunately, if jehovahs witnesses actually saw things from "Jehovahs perspective" most of them would be quickly reprimanded, disfellowshipped or leaving. On the contrary, the watchtowers view isn't to protect jehovahs sheep, but to hang them from there feet and shake out the coins for donation..because God's always broke he's just bad with money..Don't believe me? Just listen to the monthly accounts in your assigned kingdom Hall, there's always a deficit least that's what WT wants you to believe amongst all it's habitual lying...Robert's exposure of WT hypocrisy is nothing new, many figured it out like me in 1975 others way back in 1914..even before that..The world wide Webb made it possible for some like Robert to not just expose WT lies but to expound on scriptural enlightenment otherwise deliberately suppressed or unknowingly, not to mention his work is reaching an audience far greater than publishing books.. Most people see my comments as hate speech towards WT, I do not hate the WT personally, I despise those who use it as a smoke screen proclaiming to serve and protect Jehovahs name while practicing vile wickedness against jehovahs people..as for future so-called life saving instructions coming from WT I leave you with this.. Not long ago WT sent letters to branch offices allowing brothers to bribe government officials for not just party cards to keep brothers heads from being hacked off, but in some countries buying off the government to keep from being sent to serve in military services..Let's just say for arguments sake, the coming " WT life saving instructions" so as not be swallowed up by the coming viscous wild beast known as the 8th king, may just be a simple compromise call it, throwing a pinch of salt on the alter, will no doubt be provided to you by Watchtower incorporated like the covid vaccine WT touted as manna from heaven..
 
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SusanB

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My whole goal in life is to stay loyal to Jehovah, with or without watchtower. But I get what you're saying.
Your conscience is precious and it is bible trained. I believe each of us must follow our conscience. We can never say to Jehovah or Jesus that we followed a certain course because any imperfect man told us that was the path to follow. We have to use his word to guide us. That isn’t to say that we shouldn’t talk to others and get other viewpoints. We can talk with others and we should but the ultimate decision must be between each person and Jehovah.
 

Seadog

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"In the days to come you will have to decide whether to follow Jehovah or follow the Watchtower. One way will lead to life. The other way will result in everlasting death. And you will have to choose."
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"The Devil contends that God has put a protective hedge around Christians in the form of an organization."
(Satan is like a roaring lion outside, behind the protective wall of the organization")
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Great pic Paul H. My immediate thought was “ no the lion is inside the fence” having experienced the put down marking talk, shunning and character demolition of the WT grinder.
I would like nothing better than to be back where I was like one of those brothers in the front row and even better with a beard! However I can’t. I have chosen my position and I remain very grateful to Watchman for his insights.
 

SusanB

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I found this. Hope it helps.
When listening, again, to this video, what jumps out at me is that Robert King asks the listener if they felt God’s spirit while active in the congregation. I can honestly say that I did, without any doubt, feel God’s holy spirit at work. However, I do think that changed with the vaccine updates in 2021. Even those I am still in contact within the congregations are telling me that the meetings are “flat” and now different. I am not attending and so I can only recall that the public talks had been transforming over the last few years as nothing inspiring or enlightening. Before that, although not all talks were stellar, some were. Some talks really infused us with spiritual vigor. But I did not experience any feelings of holy spirit at work for several years before the vaccines. That is just my personal observation.

And, I think it very relevant that Robert King points out that God’s word encourages us, in this time period, to seek Jehovah’s righteousness. My own take on that is to not trust in men who tried to kill all of us with the vaccine. I would assume the Governing Body did not initially realize the dangers, but I know they know it now. And, it is still required for the schools. And, they are pushing ever younger ones into being Elders. It is now deliberate.

We know this scripture all too well and we can only seek Jehovah through his word and prayer and then act on what is true. How could we possibly go wrong in sticking to what is true? We are challenged right now but there are examples of others in the past who endured threats to their lives from their own brothers and sisters. No doubt that is why the true prophets were often in the wilderness.

Zephaniah 2:3: “Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger.”
 

Melinda

Well-known member
When listening, again, to this video, what jumps out at me is that Robert King asks the listener if they felt God’s spirit while active in the congregation. I can honestly say that I did, without any doubt, feel God’s holy spirit at work. However, I do think that changed with the vaccine updates in 2021. Even those I am still in contact within the congregations are telling me that the meetings are “flat” and now different. I am not attending and so I can only recall that the public talks had been transforming over the last few years as nothing inspiring or enlightening. Before that, although not all talks were stellar, some were. Some talks really infused us with spiritual vigor. But I did not experience any feelings of holy spirit at work for several years before the vaccines. That is just my personal observation.

And, I think it very relevant that Robert King points out that God’s word encourages us, in this time period, to seek Jehovah’s righteousness. My own take on that is to not trust in men who tried to kill all of us with the vaccine. I would assume the Governing Body did not initially realize the dangers, but I know they know it now. And, it is still required for the schools. And, they are pushing ever younger ones into being Elders. It is now deliberate.

We know this scripture all too well and we can only seek Jehovah through his word and prayer and then act on what is true. How could we possibly go wrong in sticking to what is true? We are challenged right now but there are examples of others in the past who endured threats to their lives from their own brothers and sisters. No doubt that is why the true prophets were often in the wilderness.

Zephaniah 2:3: “Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger.”
For me as far as feeling Gods sprit in the Congregation....In the very beginning I most certainly did. I couldn't get enough of the meetings, publications etc...I really felt I had found the most precious diamond that shined so bright that it lit up the world for me . Over the next 20 years I felt the diamond getting dimmer and dimmer....I felt like the life was getting sucked out of me. There was no joy and the load was not light...I felt the Truth had become a burden. That Revelation Book...really did me in....It was such torture...I remember so many times thinking....they really don't know what their talking about...they are making it up as they go along.
 

robins

Well-known member
When listening, again, to this video, what jumps out at me is that Robert King asks the listener if they felt God’s spirit while active in the congregation. I can honestly say that I did, without any doubt, feel God’s holy spirit at work. However, I do think that changed with the vaccine updates in 2021. Even those I am still in contact within the congregations are telling me that the meetings are “flat” and now different. I am not attending and so I can only recall that the public talks had been transforming over the last few years as nothing inspiring or enlightening. Before that, although not all talks were stellar, some were. Some talks really infused us with spiritual vigor. But I did not experience any feelings of holy spirit at work for several years before the vaccines. That is just my personal observation.

And, I think it very relevant that Robert King points out that God’s word encourages us, in this time period, to seek Jehovah’s righteousness. My own take on that is to not trust in men who tried to kill all of us with the vaccine. I would assume the Governing Body did not initially realize the dangers, but I know they know it now. And, it is still required for the schools. And, they are pushing ever younger ones into being Elders. It is now deliberate.

We know this scripture all too well and we can only seek Jehovah through his word and prayer and then act on what is true. How could we possibly go wrong in sticking to what is true? We are challenged right now but there are examples of others in the past who endured threats to their lives from their own brothers and sisters. No doubt that is why the true prophets were often in the wilderness.

Zephaniah 2:3: “Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger.”
I've found Roberts website in the beginning when he started publishing and had the initial board. It's not always been easy, but at this time I'm still in good standing in the congregation after about 20 years of knowing about this.
The love for the friends helps me to stay and be there when these things happen. I'm hoping by being in a good standing I will be able to help them.
Surely I'm not going to compromise. I try to avoid getting into a situation that would make me do things I don't agree with. I'm just a regular publisher, so I don't need to give talks or parts. If there is an assignment like a 5 min talk I don't agree with, I will find a way around it. Up to now that hasn't been the case.
During WT/book studies, I often just read some scriptures, which is always a good thing and if the study is about something interesting, I will give regular comments.
I help out with regular tasks such as microphones, audio, platform etc.
Recently I was asked to assist our group overseer with service since there are no servants in our group.
So that way I can do whatever is needed to stay 'active' and be there.
I do pay attention to see if anyone would be waking up, but up to now it hasn't happened :oops:
When there is a talk I don't agree with or a WT it's not easy, but well, it's for the friends and during a difficult WT I hope I can do something like microphones or audio, so time passes quickly :cool:
how can you sit through assemblies? I attempted the circuit last month, and had to restrain myself at the constant praising of the GB who "got us safely through the pandemic" and "aren't we all so grateful we had the direction of the organization to keep us safe"... clap, clap (puke, puke). I could only last until lunch
 

Given

Active member

According to Luke12:1-59​

44 I tell you truthfully, he will appoint him over all his belongings. 45 But if ever that slave should say in his heart, ‘My master delays coming,’ and starts to beat the male and female servants and to eat and drink and get drunk 46 the master of that slave will come on a day that he is not expecting him and at an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and assign him a part with the unfaithful ones. 47 Then that slave who understood the will of his master but did not get ready or do what he asked* will be beaten with many strokes. 48 But the one who did not understand and yet did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few. Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him.
There are slaves who understand that they are slaves and ones who do not. Meaning you could be a slave and not even know it or know and not understand your task.
So we can't say the 10 man in Bethel are the only slaves we've got.
 
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