Wednesday, January 7 2025 Will the people of Sodom be resurrected?

[PJ54]

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Wednesday, January 7 2025​

They were all wiped off the earth.—Gen. 7:23.

In the past, our publications have considered the question of what happens to those whom Jehovah judges as unrighteous. We have said that for such individuals there is no hope of a future resurrection. Several Bible accounts describe Jehovah’s judgments against unrighteous people, such as the unknown numbers who died in the Flood or the seven nations in the Promised Land that Jehovah ordered his people to devote to destruction or the 185,000 Assyrian soldiers slain by an angel of Jehovah in a single night. (Deut. 7:1-3; Isa. 37:36, 37) In these cases, does the Bible give us enough information to determine that Jehovah sentenced all those individuals to eternal destruction, with no hope of a resurrection? No, it does not. We do not know how Jehovah judged each individual; nor do we know whether those who were killed had an opportunity to learn about Jehovah and to repent. w24.05 3 ¶5-7
Examining the Scriptures Daily—2026​

Will the people of Sodom be resurrected?

QUESTION: The Watchtower has changed their position on this several times. I would like to know your opinion. Will the people of Sodom be resurrected or not? Pondering the question of whether or not the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be resurrected is really peculiar to Jehovah’s

e-watchman.com

QUESTION: The Watchtower has changed their position on this several times. I would like to know your opinion. Will the people of Sodom be resurrected or not?

Pondering the question of whether or not the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be resurrected is really peculiar to Jehovah’s Witnesses, since the mainstream churches do not really believe in any sort of earthly resurrection, much less a resurrection for notoriously wicked persons.

But Jesus indicated that there is to be a resurrection of persons who were not in any sense righteous before God. Here is what Jesus said: “Most truly I say to you, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who have paid attention will live. For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to do judging, because he is the Son of man. Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.”

The “dead” first began to hear the voice of the Son of God when Jesus was on earth. Those who listened and believed came to life spiritually and many will have life in themselves when the first resurrection begins during the parousia. But the hour is also coming when the literal dead, those lying in memorial tombs, will hear the powerful voice of the Son of God and come out. Among them will be even those who practiced vile things. That would certainly include the original Sodomites. Theirs, though, is not a resurrection to immortal life in the heavens, but a “resurrection of judgment.”

I liken it to a criminal being sentenced to a period of probation or parole, while they may be free from incarceration they are under restriction until they prove they have reformed themselves. It is the same with the “resurrection of judgement.” The masses of people who will be freed from death will have to mend their ways and develop godliness. They will have to prove that they will obey God —or to be more accurate, God’s Son when he rules the world for 1,000 years. If they do not then their probation is revoked and they experience what the Bible calls the second death. In their case they will literally die a second time. The second death is permanent —no resurrection being possible. The book of Revelation symbolizes the second death as a lake of fire.

Jesus specifically cited the men of Sodom and Gomorrah rising up in the judgment, that is to say in the “resurrection of judgment.” When giving instructions to his disciples as he sent them out on their first preaching campaign he told them not to be overly concerned about the Jews who rejected them, saying: “Wherever anyone does not receive you or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet. Truly I say to you, it will be more endurable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah on Judgment Day than for that city.”

Since Jesus assured us that the hour will come when even the ungodly will come out of their graves, and people of the land of Sodom will be on hand during Judgment Day, why is there any question about whether the people of Sodom will actually be included? The reason is because of what is stated in the letter of Jude, which states: “In the same manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them also gave themselves over to gross sexual immorality and pursued unnatural fleshly desires; they are placed before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire.”

“Everlasting fire” symbolizes the same thing as the lake of fire. Jesus similarly spoke of the city garbage dump called Gehenna, where the incinerating fires perpetually burned with sulphured brimstone to consume the refuse.

On the one hand Jesus spoke of Sodom being among the resurrected and on the other hand, Jude said Sodom and Gomorrah are set before us as examples by having undergone the judicial punishment of everlasting fire. Is there a contradiction?

Apparently the Watchtower has had a problem coming to terms with these seemingly contradictory passages; evidenced by the fact that over the years the Watchtower has reversed itself several times, saying they will be resurrected, then flip-flopping to say they will not, then back again. Since 1988 the official stance is they will not —although that might change.

Although Watchtower critics exploit this as an example of doctrinal changes, that is silly. The teaching that there is a heavenly resurrection and an earthly resurrection is a matter of doctrine. And that has never changed. But harmonizing two seemingly contradicting points of Scripture is a matter of interpretation. And for whatever it is worth, I believe that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be resurrected.

My reasoning is that the passage in Jude is saying that the fiery destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is placed as a warning example as the two cities experienced divine judgment and literally were burned with fire, which symbolizes eternal destruction.

The two notoriously wicked cities were never rebuilt. So, in that respect they underwent everlasting destruction and consequently stand as a warning example for those who are yet to stand before the judgment seat.

Jehovah made an interesting connection in that regard when foretelling the permanent destruction of Babylon, saying of that iniquitous city: “And Babylon, the most glorious of kingdoms, the beauty and the pride of the Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God overthrew them. She will never be inhabited, nor will she be a place to reside in throughout all generations.” — Isaiah 13:19-20

There is no indication anywhere in the Scriptures that the Chaldeans will not be among those who come out of the memorial tombs. Yet, the kingdom of Babylon met the same inglorious fate as Sodom and Gomorrah.

Edom met the same fate too, as recorded in the 49th chapter of Jeremiah: “‘And Edom must become an object of horror. Everyone passing along by her will stare in horror and whistle on account of all her plagues. Just as in the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah and of their neighboring towns,” Jehovah says, “no one will dwell there, and no man will settle there.”’

Again, the comparison is, that like Sodom and Babylon, Edom was never again a nation.

Although Jerusalem was rebuilt the destruction of Jerusalem was considered worse then the punishment meted out to Sodom. Jeremiah lamented: “The punishment of the daughter of my people is greater than the punishment for the sin of Sodom, which was overthrown in a moment, with no hand to help her.” —Lamentations 4:6

In what sense was Jerusalem’s punishment greater? Well, the end came for the people of Sodom and Gomorrah more or less instantaneously, whereas Jerusalem endured the horrors of a long, grinding siege.

But the point is, the Babylonians, Edomites and Jews will no doubt experience a resurrection of judgment. So, why not the Sodomites?

The point of the letter of Jude is to exhort Christians to put up a hard fight for the faith and resist those wicked men who have slipped into the congregations, who lurk like rocks below the waterline. They are elders, shepherds feasting with unsuspecting Christians. Jude made it clear that these unspiritual, animalistic men are not necessarily homosexuals, but they possess a similar brazen defiance of Jehovah on a different level.

Indeed, the letter of Jude shows the judgment is directed against those who slip in and assume leadership roles in Christ’s congregation and who present themselves as guiding lights. They are going to experience the same sort of judgment as the city of Sodom did 4,000 years ago —everlasting fire. That is why Jude wrote: “These are the rocks hidden below water at your love feasts while they feast with you, shepherds who feed themselves without fear; waterless clouds carried here and there by the wind; fruitless trees in late autumn, having died twice and having been uprooted; wild waves of the sea that cast up the foam of their own shame; stars with no set course, for which the blackest darkness stands reserved forever.”

Their “having died twice” means that they have already been sentenced to the everlasting fire of the second death. That is what the fiery end of Sodom and Gomorrah represents — everlasting death. At the coming of Christ they will then be thrown out of the congregation into the blackness of oblivion, where they will then experience much weeping and gnashing of teeth, knowing they are soon going to meet the same ignominious fate as Sodom on the day that Jehovah rained down fire and sulphur from heaven upon it.

March 17th, 2017

 

[dgibson969]

Will the people of Sodom be resurrected?

QUESTION: The Watchtower has changed their position on this several times. I would like to know your opinion. Will the people of Sodom be resurrected or not? Pondering the question of whether or not the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be resurrected is really peculiar to Jehovah’s

e-watchman.com

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Pondering the question of whether or not the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be resurrected is really peculiar to Jehovah’s Witnesses, since the mainstream churches do not really believe in any sort of earthly resurrection, much less a resurrection for notoriously wicked persons.

But Jesus indicated that there is to be a resurrection of persons who were not in any sense righteous before God. Here is what Jesus said: “Most truly I say to you, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who have paid attention will live. For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to do judging, because he is the Son of man. Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.”

The “dead” first began to hear the voice of the Son of God when Jesus was on earth. Those who listened and believed came to life spiritually and many will have life in themselves when the first resurrection begins during the parousia. But the hour is also coming when the literal dead, those lying in memorial tombs, will hear the powerful voice of the Son of God and come out. Among them will be even those who practiced vile things. That would certainly include the original Sodomites. Theirs, though, is not a resurrection to immortal life in the heavens, but a “resurrection of judgment.”

I liken it to a criminal being sentenced to a period of probation or parole, while they may be free from incarceration they are under restriction until they prove they have reformed themselves. It is the same with the “resurrection of judgement.” The masses of people who will be freed from death will have to mend their ways and develop godliness. They will have to prove that they will obey God —or to be more accurate, God’s Son when he rules the world for 1,000 years. If they do not then their probation is revoked and they experience what the Bible calls the second death. In their case they will literally die a second time. The second death is permanent —no resurrection being possible. The book of Revelation symbolizes the second death as a lake of fire.

Jesus specifically cited the men of Sodom and Gomorrah rising up in the judgment, that is to say in the “resurrection of judgment.” When giving instructions to his disciples as he sent them out on their first preaching campaign he told them not to be overly concerned about the Jews who rejected them, saying: “Wherever anyone does not receive you or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet. Truly I say to you, it will be more endurable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah on Judgment Day than for that city.”

Since Jesus assured us that the hour will come when even the ungodly will come out of their graves, and people of the land of Sodom will be on hand during Judgment Day, why is there any question about whether the people of Sodom will actually be included? The reason is because of what is stated in the letter of Jude, which states: “In the same manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them also gave themselves over to gross sexual immorality and pursued unnatural fleshly desires; they are placed before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire.”

“Everlasting fire” symbolizes the same thing as the lake of fire. Jesus similarly spoke of the city garbage dump called Gehenna, where the incinerating fires perpetually burned with sulphured brimstone to consume the refuse.

On the one hand Jesus spoke of Sodom being among the resurrected and on the other hand, Jude said Sodom and Gomorrah are set before us as examples by having undergone the judicial punishment of everlasting fire. Is there a contradiction?

Apparently the Watchtower has had a problem coming to terms with these seemingly contradictory passages; evidenced by the fact that over the years the Watchtower has reversed itself several times, saying they will be resurrected, then flip-flopping to say they will not, then back again. Since 1988 the official stance is they will not —although that might change.

Although Watchtower critics exploit this as an example of doctrinal changes, that is silly. The teaching that there is a heavenly resurrection and an earthly resurrection is a matter of doctrine. And that has never changed. But harmonizing two seemingly contradicting points of Scripture is a matter of interpretation. And for whatever it is worth, I believe that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be resurrected.

My reasoning is that the passage in Jude is saying that the fiery destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is placed as a warning example as the two cities experienced divine judgment and literally were burned with fire, which symbolizes eternal destruction.

The two notoriously wicked cities were never rebuilt. So, in that respect they underwent everlasting destruction and consequently stand as a warning example for those who are yet to stand before the judgment seat.

Jehovah made an interesting connection in that regard when foretelling the permanent destruction of Babylon, saying of that iniquitous city: “And Babylon, the most glorious of kingdoms, the beauty and the pride of the Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God overthrew them. She will never be inhabited, nor will she be a place to reside in throughout all generations.” — Isaiah 13:19-20

There is no indication anywhere in the Scriptures that the Chaldeans will not be among those who come out of the memorial tombs. Yet, the kingdom of Babylon met the same inglorious fate as Sodom and Gomorrah.

Edom met the same fate too, as recorded in the 49th chapter of Jeremiah: “‘And Edom must become an object of horror. Everyone passing along by her will stare in horror and whistle on account of all her plagues. Just as in the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah and of their neighboring towns,” Jehovah says, “no one will dwell there, and no man will settle there.”’

Again, the comparison is, that like Sodom and Babylon, Edom was never again a nation.

Although Jerusalem was rebuilt the destruction of Jerusalem was considered worse then the punishment meted out to Sodom. Jeremiah lamented: “The punishment of the daughter of my people is greater than the punishment for the sin of Sodom, which was overthrown in a moment, with no hand to help her.” —Lamentations 4:6

In what sense was Jerusalem’s punishment greater? Well, the end came for the people of Sodom and Gomorrah more or less instantaneously, whereas Jerusalem endured the horrors of a long, grinding siege.

But the point is, the Babylonians, Edomites and Jews will no doubt experience a resurrection of judgment. So, why not the Sodomites?

The point of the letter of Jude is to exhort Christians to put up a hard fight for the faith and resist those wicked men who have slipped into the congregations, who lurk like rocks below the waterline. They are elders, shepherds feasting with unsuspecting Christians. Jude made it clear that these unspiritual, animalistic men are not necessarily homosexuals, but they possess a similar brazen defiance of Jehovah on a different level.

Indeed, the letter of Jude shows the judgment is directed against those who slip in and assume leadership roles in Christ’s congregation and who present themselves as guiding lights. They are going to experience the same sort of judgment as the city of Sodom did 4,000 years ago —everlasting fire. That is why Jude wrote: “These are the rocks hidden below water at your love feasts while they feast with you, shepherds who feed themselves without fear; waterless clouds carried here and there by the wind; fruitless trees in late autumn, having died twice and having been uprooted; wild waves of the sea that cast up the foam of their own shame; stars with no set course, for which the blackest darkness stands reserved forever.”

Their “having died twice” means that they have already been sentenced to the everlasting fire of the second death. That is what the fiery end of Sodom and Gomorrah represents — everlasting death. At the coming of Christ they will then be thrown out of the congregation into the blackness of oblivion, where they will then experience much weeping and gnashing of teeth, knowing they are soon going to meet the same ignominious fate as Sodom on the day that Jehovah rained down fire and sulphur from heaven upon it.

March 17th, 2017

The true depths of Jehovah's Love, has yet to be experienced fully. He knows completely, that Satan's jealousy of humankind has brought this all forward. It may be possible, that Adam and Eve will be resurrected back to life! Though the stigma of their falling, would haunt them forever. I think of it this way. We all want to see our parents again, so why wouldn't Abel not feel the same way. Jehovah is going to wipe all the tears from our eyes, Including Abel's.

 

[Dave Bannister]

2026. I hope that when Christ returns that the earth will eventually be like what Jehovah intended, before the fall of man. Who better to bring that about than Christ? As for the alternate/deviant lifestyles, they will get what they deserve. We all will when it's all said and done.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

2026. I hope that when Christ returns that the earth will eventually be like what Jehovah intended, before the fall of man. Who better to bring that about than Christ? As for the alternate/deviant lifestyles, they will get what they deserve. We all will when it's all said and done.

I don’t think it’s the sin that is committed that becomes the deciding factor of judgement, but our own proclivity towards it in the face of understanding its gravity within our heart motivation. Where does need part company with desire? When does poverty and hardship break the spirit to thieve what is not our own? Why is it deemed an “honour” to kill another person because politicians in another want to govern you?

Loving righteousness is comparatively easy when we have achieved stability in our lives and we are satisfied with sufficiency, but the attributes of Jehovah ask more of us in our “love” of righteousness. They ask us to consider deeply and with introspection our own motives - and not just our motives, but our insight into our quality of compassion. We cannot have justice without compassion, and we cannot have compassion without insight into suffering, and we cannot have forgiveness if we do not have understanding of loss - and what do we make of loss if we have never suffered it, or temptation if we have never been tried by it?

This is why “love” is the core of understanding without which we “have nothing”. Love is not sentimental and neither is it forgiving unless it is deserved. And how can it ever be deserved unless it is tried and drawn out and inspected as to its meaning within us in all the other attributes, such as empathy, compassion, insight, experience in resisting wrongdoing ourselves and in our failure and success? Insight is an outcome of experience without which we cannot ever say “you are guilty” unless we wish to be judged by that same lack in standard. Is that what we want?

Love is not simply agreement with what is right. That is simply flaccid, impotent thinking as to its meaning. Love is an active, bitterly experienced master of instruction into the human condition given humanity by our Creator with which to learn the essence of meaning in our existence. The “nothing” it refers to in its description refers to our ignorance of and in our purpose if we do not have its understanding riven within our soul; its outcomes, and its necessity to our very existence if the attributes of Jehovah are to be realised within that very soul.

 

[Revvzone]

The true depths of Jehovah's Love, has yet to be experienced fully. He knows completely, that Satan's jealousy of humankind has brought this all forward. It may be possible, that Adam and Eve will be resurrected back to life! Though the stigma of their falling, would haunt them forever. I think of it this way. We all want to see our parents again, so why wouldn't Abel not feel the same way. Jehovah is going to wipe all the tears from our eyes, Including Abel's.

No. I don't think so. One, divine judgment sets a precedent because the action was taken to go down into the city's and see for certain that the cry and stench going up to heaven about the abominations taking place we're certain.
If one looks at the context the statements Jesus made were about the city's that underwent judicial justice.
Luke 10:12, He says: "I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town."

In Matthew 10:15, the verse states: "Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town."

As for the men rising up on that day 'judgment day." These passages indicate that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be referenced in the context of judgment relating to the emphasis of consequences from their actions. So, how will it be better for those city's/ people of Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment? Because, their judgment has already taken place! No need for a repeat. That's why the book of Jude places these events as a warning!
So then, what good does punishment serve if you get a resurrection, it sounds completely meaningless. Not only that, the watchtower says those obliterated in the flood may also receive a resurrection? May as well give Adam and Eve one too. Or at least Eve, since she was deceived, besides, the Bible only says " Adam would positively die" I know it sounds absurd, but the Bible doesn't say they wouldn't 'positively receive a resurrection" does it? To me, Its just makes divine judgment look impotent... like, just do whatever you want, no matter how perverted or debased, if you're lucky enough to croak before Armageddon, voila! Free1000 year ticket, no consequence involved just be a good egg and nothing to worry about..

 

[Watchman]

The unrighteous will receive a resurrection of judgment. I do not know why that is so hard for the Governing Body to understand. Take Lot's sons-in-law. They were apparently not perverts, as they were engaged to his daughters. They did not believe Lot's warning and so were destroyed. Will they be resurrected? Jesus said any blasphemy against God and himself would be forgiven. But sin against the holy spirit will not be forgiven. Did the Sodomites sin against the holy spirit? Of course not. Did the Assyrian army that was slain in their sleep by an angel commit blasphemy against the holy spirit? Obviously not. It seems the light at Bethel keeps getting dimmer and dimmer.

 

[Carl]

The unrighteous will receive a resurrection of judgment. I do not know why that is so hard for the Governing Body to understand. Take Lot's sons-in-law. They were apparently not perverts, as they were engaged to his daughters. They did not believe Lot's warning and so were destroyed. Will they be resurrected? Jesus said any blasphemy against God and himself would be forgiven. But sin against the holy spirit will not be forgiven. Did the Sodomites sin against the holy spirit? Of course not. Did the Assyrian army that was slain in their sleep by an angel commit blasphemy against the holy spirit? Obviously not. It seems the light at Bethel keeps getting dimmer and dimmer.

I must have read and listened to the Bible 25-26 times or more. The count is far higher for many individual books like Revelation. I'm still in the dark about so many things though. I decided to start reading a few chapters a night, starting at Genesis. This time I'm not rushing. I barely got started before Satan whispered doubt into my ear. For example... who were the people Cain needed to be protected from? Everyone has an opinion, but there's no answer in the Bible. Also, how did Noah live for 400 years and only have 3 children? Did they have birth control back then? Did they have sex infrequently? Did Jehovah control ovulation? Who cares!!!

I'm done worrying about questions I can't answer... questions that all too often cause division, as people become entrenched in their own conjecture. This forum has lost far too many members who wouldn't drop an issue, maybe because they felt their "new light" was going to change our knowledge about everything. I have no interest in debate anymore. Now when I read something that instigates a question that seems to contradict the Bible, I just laugh with Jehovah and tell Him I don't care. He'll let me know if it's important. I remind myself that the Bible was written thousands of years ago to a very different kind of society and mindset.

The Bible tells us that the ONLY people who won't receive a resurrection are those who sin against the Holy Spirit. Does this mean Hitler will wake up in Paradise? I honestly don't care. If he does, then I'm a shoo-in! If not, then who else gets destroyed? I have a very liberal view of the resurrection, since I believe it's unfair to destroy someone who never had the chance to know the Truth. I have a very conservative view of my own possible resurrection though, because I'm not willing to gamble on being wrong. The "once saved, always saved" teaching leads people into bad habits and serious sin. On the opposite side are people who teach the "narrow road" teaching means very few make it to Paradise. The Bible is clear... making it to Paradise doesn't guarantee eternal life; also, people will get booted if they hear the message and still act up even without Satan's influence.

Maybe the WT is promoting this false teaching in order to put the fear of death into JWs? Fear is a useful tool of tyrants, often used to gain obedience. In the past, society was held in check by hellfire preachers and the politicians they backed. This is a satanic way of governing. Jesus didn't promote a bunch of rules... just love. If you love Jehovah, and by extension His Son, and love your neighbor as you love them... you won't mess around with idols, steal, lie, fornicate... pretty simple.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

The unrighteous will receive a resurrection of judgment. I do not know why that is so hard for the Governing Body to understand. Take Lot's sons-in-law. They were apparently not perverts, as they were engaged to his daughters. They did not believe Lot's warning and so were destroyed. Will they be resurrected? Jesus said any blasphemy against God and himself would be forgiven. But sin against the holy spirit will not be forgiven. Did the Sodomites sin against the holy spirit? Of course not. Did the Assyrian army that was slain in their sleep by an angel commit blasphemy against the holy spirit? Obviously not. It seems the light at Bethel keeps getting dimmer and dimmer.

Watchtower, as with those offering rather extreme comments on your other channel, appear to miss the point that this world is freely given to those whom wish to live in accord with the Holy Spirit. I don’t think any of us can pre-empt how Jehovah will judge the outcome. We are all products of sin since Adam threw it all away : - who has had to the opportunity to experience perfection and make a choice? It is much the same with the truth. Your site offers truth as best it can be rendered under the circumstances, but it is up to each individual to reason upon it for themselves and either reject it or to keep it in mind. Who gets resurrected is the least of my worries. I’m more concerned about being found worthy of being included amongst the living. That’s asking a lot of Jehovah without worrying over who else gets a chance! It’s quite simple. Jehovah will choose and no one will argue because His choice is perfect.

 

[GlennH]

Will the people of Sodom be resurrected?

QUESTION: The Watchtower has changed their position on this several times. I would like to know your opinion. Will the people of Sodom be resurrected or not? Pondering the question of whether or not the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be resurrected is really peculiar to Jehovah’s

e-watchman.com

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Pondering the question of whether or not the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be resurrected is really peculiar to Jehovah’s Witnesses, since the mainstream churches do not really believe in any sort of earthly resurrection, much less a resurrection for notoriously wicked persons.

But Jesus indicated that there is to be a resurrection of persons who were not in any sense righteous before God. Here is what Jesus said: “Most truly I say to you, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who have paid attention will live. For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to do judging, because he is the Son of man. Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.”

The “dead” first began to hear the voice of the Son of God when Jesus was on earth. Those who listened and believed came to life spiritually and many will have life in themselves when the first resurrection begins during the parousia. But the hour is also coming when the literal dead, those lying in memorial tombs, will hear the powerful voice of the Son of God and come out. Among them will be even those who practiced vile things. That would certainly include the original Sodomites. Theirs, though, is not a resurrection to immortal life in the heavens, but a “resurrection of judgment.”

I liken it to a criminal being sentenced to a period of probation or parole, while they may be free from incarceration they are under restriction until they prove they have reformed themselves. It is the same with the “resurrection of judgement.” The masses of people who will be freed from death will have to mend their ways and develop godliness. They will have to prove that they will obey God —or to be more accurate, God’s Son when he rules the world for 1,000 years. If they do not then their probation is revoked and they experience what the Bible calls the second death. In their case they will literally die a second time. The second death is permanent —no resurrection being possible. The book of Revelation symbolizes the second death as a lake of fire.

Jesus specifically cited the men of Sodom and Gomorrah rising up in the judgment, that is to say in the “resurrection of judgment.” When giving instructions to his disciples as he sent them out on their first preaching campaign he told them not to be overly concerned about the Jews who rejected them, saying: “Wherever anyone does not receive you or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet. Truly I say to you, it will be more endurable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah on Judgment Day than for that city.”

Since Jesus assured us that the hour will come when even the ungodly will come out of their graves, and people of the land of Sodom will be on hand during Judgment Day, why is there any question about whether the people of Sodom will actually be included? The reason is because of what is stated in the letter of Jude, which states: “In the same manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them also gave themselves over to gross sexual immorality and pursued unnatural fleshly desires; they are placed before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire.”

“Everlasting fire” symbolizes the same thing as the lake of fire. Jesus similarly spoke of the city garbage dump called Gehenna, where the incinerating fires perpetually burned with sulphured brimstone to consume the refuse.

On the one hand Jesus spoke of Sodom being among the resurrected and on the other hand, Jude said Sodom and Gomorrah are set before us as examples by having undergone the judicial punishment of everlasting fire. Is there a contradiction?

Apparently the Watchtower has had a problem coming to terms with these seemingly contradictory passages; evidenced by the fact that over the years the Watchtower has reversed itself several times, saying they will be resurrected, then flip-flopping to say they will not, then back again. Since 1988 the official stance is they will not —although that might change.

Although Watchtower critics exploit this as an example of doctrinal changes, that is silly. The teaching that there is a heavenly resurrection and an earthly resurrection is a matter of doctrine. And that has never changed. But harmonizing two seemingly contradicting points of Scripture is a matter of interpretation. And for whatever it is worth, I believe that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be resurrected.

My reasoning is that the passage in Jude is saying that the fiery destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is placed as a warning example as the two cities experienced divine judgment and literally were burned with fire, which symbolizes eternal destruction.

The two notoriously wicked cities were never rebuilt. So, in that respect they underwent everlasting destruction and consequently stand as a warning example for those who are yet to stand before the judgment seat.

Jehovah made an interesting connection in that regard when foretelling the permanent destruction of Babylon, saying of that iniquitous city: “And Babylon, the most glorious of kingdoms, the beauty and the pride of the Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God overthrew them. She will never be inhabited, nor will she be a place to reside in throughout all generations.” — Isaiah 13:19-20

There is no indication anywhere in the Scriptures that the Chaldeans will not be among those who come out of the memorial tombs. Yet, the kingdom of Babylon met the same inglorious fate as Sodom and Gomorrah.

Edom met the same fate too, as recorded in the 49th chapter of Jeremiah: “‘And Edom must become an object of horror. Everyone passing along by her will stare in horror and whistle on account of all her plagues. Just as in the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah and of their neighboring towns,” Jehovah says, “no one will dwell there, and no man will settle there.”’

Again, the comparison is, that like Sodom and Babylon, Edom was never again a nation.

Although Jerusalem was rebuilt the destruction of Jerusalem was considered worse then the punishment meted out to Sodom. Jeremiah lamented: “The punishment of the daughter of my people is greater than the punishment for the sin of Sodom, which was overthrown in a moment, with no hand to help her.” —Lamentations 4:6

In what sense was Jerusalem’s punishment greater? Well, the end came for the people of Sodom and Gomorrah more or less instantaneously, whereas Jerusalem endured the horrors of a long, grinding siege.

But the point is, the Babylonians, Edomites and Jews will no doubt experience a resurrection of judgment. So, why not the Sodomites?

The point of the letter of Jude is to exhort Christians to put up a hard fight for the faith and resist those wicked men who have slipped into the congregations, who lurk like rocks below the waterline. They are elders, shepherds feasting with unsuspecting Christians. Jude made it clear that these unspiritual, animalistic men are not necessarily homosexuals, but they possess a similar brazen defiance of Jehovah on a different level.

Indeed, the letter of Jude shows the judgment is directed against those who slip in and assume leadership roles in Christ’s congregation and who present themselves as guiding lights. They are going to experience the same sort of judgment as the city of Sodom did 4,000 years ago —everlasting fire. That is why Jude wrote: “These are the rocks hidden below water at your love feasts while they feast with you, shepherds who feed themselves without fear; waterless clouds carried here and there by the wind; fruitless trees in late autumn, having died twice and having been uprooted; wild waves of the sea that cast up the foam of their own shame; stars with no set course, for which the blackest darkness stands reserved forever.”

Their “having died twice” means that they have already been sentenced to the everlasting fire of the second death. That is what the fiery end of Sodom and Gomorrah represents — everlasting death. At the coming of Christ they will then be thrown out of the congregation into the blackness of oblivion, where they will then experience much weeping and gnashing of teeth, knowing they are soon going to meet the same ignominious fate as Sodom on the day that Jehovah rained down fire and sulphur from heaven upon it.

March 17th, 2017

I lean on the fact that only Jehovah and Jesus know hearts. That Jehovah is looking for friends and people rightly disposed for everlasting life.

In the account of Sodom and Gomorrah, Jehovah did not find 10 righteous among the wicked. I do not get the sense that the wicked are equivalent to the unrighteous.

For me, I am confidant Jesus' voice will not be heard by those not rightly-dispposed for the new world.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

I must have read and listened to the Bible 25-26 times or more. The count is far higher for many individual books like Revelation. I'm still in the dark about so many things though. I decided to start reading a few chapters a night, starting at Genesis. This time I'm not rushing. I barely got started before Satan whispered doubt into my ear. For example... who were the people Cain needed to be protected from? Everyone has an opinion, but there's no answer in the Bible. Also, how did Noah live for 400 years and only have 3 children? Did they have birth control back then? Did they have sex infrequently? Did Jehovah control ovulation? Who cares!!!

I'm done worrying about questions I can't answer... questions that all too often cause division, as people become entrenched in their own conjecture. This forum has lost far too many members who wouldn't drop an issue, maybe because they felt their "new light" was going to change our knowledge about everything. I have no interest in debate anymore. Now when I read something that instigates a question that seems to contradict the Bible, I just laugh with Jehovah and tell Him I don't care. He'll let me know if it's important. I remind myself that the Bible was written thousands of years ago to a very different kind of society and mindset.

The Bible tells us that the ONLY people who won't receive a resurrection are those who sin against the Holy Spirit. Does this mean Hitler will wake up in Paradise? I honestly don't care. If he does, then I'm a shoo-in! If not, then who else gets destroyed? I have a very liberal view of the resurrection, since I believe it's unfair to destroy someone who never had the chance to know the Truth. I have a very conservative view of my own possible resurrection though, because I'm not willing to gamble on being wrong. The "once saved, always saved" teaching leads people into bad habits and serious sin. On the opposite side are people who teach the "narrow road" teaching means very few make it to Paradise. The Bible is clear... making it to Paradise doesn't guarantee eternal life; also, people will get booted if they hear the message and still act up even without Satan's influence.

Maybe the WT is promoting this false teaching in order to put the fear of death into JWs? Fear is a useful tool of tyrants, often used to gain obedience. In the past, society was held in check by hellfire preachers and the politicians they backed. This is a satanic way of governing. Jesus didn't promote a bunch of rules... just love. If you love Jehovah, and by extension His Son, and love your neighbor as you love them... you won't mess around with idols, steal, lie, fornicate... pretty simple.

The people that he needed to be protected from had not been born (or his siblings might be in the process of…) at that time but due to the apparently much longer lifespan, it would be a problem in the future no doubt.

 

[SusanB]

When reading this thread, I thought that I have no idea whether the statement that the unrighteous will be resurrected means that all unrighteous ones will be resurrected. And, I’m not sure I care one way or another because I know that whatever happens it will all work to Jehovah’s glory. We do have the promise that no one will cause any harm once the earth is filled with the knowledge of Jehovah. That is enough for me.

Isaiah 11:9: “They will not cause any harm Or any ruin in all my holy mountain, Because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah As the waters cover the sea.”

Nevertheless, it makes me recall a conversation that I had with my brother years ago. I was trying to get him to consider how life would be in an earthly paradise during the 1,000 year reign. It sounded like a fairytale to him. Just wishful thinking. I think for many people, who don’t have faith in God’s promises, it doesn’t sound realistic. But when they are resurrected to a paradise earth, then they will know that it is possible because of God’s Kingdom and thanks to Jehovah’s blessing. Then, the promise of life will no doubt be much more precious to them.

 

[Revvzone]

That's the real question though. what's is considered, unrighteousness? Rather, what's unrighteous to the Almighty. Is it just flagrant disregard in the face of Jehovah’s spirit, or is it outright defiance? We know Cain defied Jehovah after being warned. Sadly, humanity has practiced all manner of such. Robert mentioned Lots son-in-laws. They to were also warned, and must have been witness to the blinding the angels put upon the people in the city. Not to mention the angels couldn't find the required amount of souls to stop the coming calamity.
Jesus gives us the illustration of the evil slave, that only the ignorant get a reprieve, the others, certain death. Of course that's during the judgment. What of those pre-flood though, will they after having heard Noah preach a warning and witness to the Ark building? Take Nineveh for example, whatever unrighteousness that city was practicing was obviously a flagrant violation that brought it under condemnation, enough so that it was going to be wiped from the earth had they not listened and changed the path they were on. It's hard to imagine those practicing vile and depraved acts do so out of ignorance. Unrighteousness has its punishments to a higher or lesser degree and since that is the case. Whatever the case, it's looking like we'll have the opportunity to shake hands with the likes of Nero, Caligula even Nimrod. maybe take a meal and photo with one of the all-time favorites, Dr. Mengele, definitely make a great souviner for the photo album. Worst case,
maybe me and Freud could pick these fellas brains, you know, see what makes these boys tick.

 

[SusanB]

That's the real question though. what's is considered, unrighteousness? Rather, what's unrighteous to the Almighty. Is it just flagrant disregard in the face of Jehovah’s spirit, or is it outright defiance? We know Cain defied Jehovah after being warned. Sadly, humanity has practiced all manner of such. Robert mentioned Lots son-in-laws. They to were also warned, and must have been witness to the blinding the angels put upon the people in the city. Not to mention the angels couldn't find the required amount of souls to stop the coming calamity.
Jesus gives us the illustration of the evil slave, that only the ignorant get a reprieve, the others, certain death. Of course that's during the judgment. What of those pre-flood though, will they after having heard Noah preach a warning and witness to the Ark building? Take Nineveh for example, whatever unrighteousness that city was practicing was obviously a flagrant violation that brought it under condemnation, enough so that it was going to be wiped from the earth had they not listened and changed the path they were on. It's hard to imagine those practicing vile and depraved acts do so out of ignorance. Unrighteousness has its punishments to a higher or lesser degree and since that is the case. Whatever the case, it's looking like we'll have the opportunity to shake hands with the likes of Nero, Caligula even Nimrod. maybe take a meal and photo with one of the all-time favorites, Dr. Mengele, definitely make a great souviner for the photo album

And, yet, can we think of a more deprave sinner than Mannaseh, who was forgiven? Jehovah sees us as individuals and he takes into account the things that have molded us as well as what is truly in our hearts.

2 Kings 21:11​

“Ma·nasʹseh the king of Judah has done all these detestable things; he has acted more wickedly than all the Amʹor·ites before him, and he has made Judah sin with his disgusting idols.

2 Kings 21:16​

Ma·nasʹseh also shed innocent blood in very great quantity until he had filled Jerusalem from one end to the other, besides his sin of causing Judah to sin by doing what was bad in the eyes of Jehovah.

2 Chronicles 33:12-13: “In his distress, he begged Jehovah his God for favor and kept humbling himself greatly before the God of his forefathers. He kept praying to Him, and He was moved by his entreaty and heard his request for favor, and He restored him to Jerusalem to his kingship. Then Ma·nasʹseh came to know that Jehovah is the true God.”

 

[Revvzone]

And, yet, can we think of a more deprave sinner than Mannaseh, who was forgiven? Jehovah sees us as individuals and he takes into account the things that have molded us as well as what is truly in our hearts.

2 Kings 21:11​

“Ma·nasʹseh the king of Judah has done all these detestable things; he has acted more wickedly than all the Amʹor·ites before him, and he has made Judah sin with his disgusting idols.

2 Kings 21:16​

Ma·nasʹseh also shed innocent blood in very great quantity until he had filled Jerusalem from one end to the other, besides his sin of causing Judah to sin by doing what was bad in the eyes of Jehovah.

2 Chronicles 33:12-13: “In his distress, he begged Jehovah his God for favor and kept humbling himself greatly before the God of his forefathers. He kept praying to Him, and He was moved by his entreaty and heard his request for favor, and He restored him to Jerusalem to his kingship. Then Ma·nasʹseh came to know that Jehovah is the true God.”

There's a difference though. Manasseh was anointed and God had direct communication with him. Same with Solomon. In other words, they were not ignorant.
Sure there have been Rulers whom Jehovah has placed an anointing of sorts upon to bring about his plan. However, for most of humanity it is not the case. Why, because the devil gives his anointing or approval and power to those he so chooses, AKA the unrighteous, or those set aside for destruction.. that means no last minute change of mind just like Judas.

 

[Revvzone]

The unrighteous will receive a resurrection of judgment. I do not know why that is so hard for the Governing Body to understand. Take Lot's sons-in-law. They were apparently not perverts, as they were engaged to his daughters. They did not believe Lot's warning and so were destroyed. Will they be resurrected? Jesus said any blasphemy against God and himself would be forgiven. But sin against the holy spirit will not be forgiven. Did the Sodomites sin against the holy spirit? Of course not. Did the Assyrian army that was slain in their sleep by an angel commit blasphemy against the holy spirit? Obviously not. It seems the light at Bethel keeps getting dimmer and dimmer.

I agree there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and unrighteous. An after thought per the watchtower's spin on those who perished in the flood nonsense. If such is the case, and purposterous as it sounds...why don't they include the unnatural Nephilim, since it was not their fault their angelic fathers had relations with the daughters of men. Though they were known as good for nothing rapists thieves and bullies who practiced unrighteousness, they were still human. Otherwise they would have never died in the flood... For me, the frustrating concoctions the watchtower come up with demonstrate they're workers of unrighteousness. It's sad because, we know it's easy to fool someone, but quite the opposite to convince them they have been fooled..

 

[Bk Kevin]

2026. I hope that when Christ returns that the earth will eventually be like what Jehovah intended, before the fall of man. Who better to bring that about than Christ? As for the alternate/deviant lifestyles, they will get what they deserve. We all will when it's all said and done.

Psalm​

8 Let go of anger and abandon rage;+

Do not become upset and turn to doing evil.*
9 For evil men will be done away with,+

But those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth.+
ו [Waw]

10 Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more;+

You will look at where they were,

And they will not be there.+
11 But the meek will possess the earth,+

And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.+

 

[Watchman]

I agree there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and unrighteous. An after thought per the watchtower's spin on those who perished in the flood nonsense. If such is the case, and purposterous as it sounds...why don't they include the unnatural Nephilim, since it was not their fault their angelic fathers had relations with the daughters of men. Though they were known as good for nothing rapists thieves and bullies who practiced unrighteousness, they were still human. Otherwise they would have never died in the flood... For me, the frustrating concoctions the watchtower come up with demonstrate they're workers of unrighteousness. It's sad because, we know it's easy to fool someone, but quite the opposite to convince them they have been fooled..

The Nephilim were not humans. Their mothers were, but their fathers were not sons of Adam. And therefore, legally, would not be covered by Christ's ransom. The materialized angels could not even produce a female, which is probably a very good thing. I doubt the angels that came down even had any idea what would be the result of their mating with women. Keeping with the chess analogy, Jehovah checkmated them before their first move.

 

[Revvzone]

True impart, they were not human. However, the scriptures refer to them as Mighty Men of old. The scriptural framework suggests they were likely hybrid men, whatever substance they were, was unalived in the flood.I recall a talk some 40+ years ago, where a brother suggested one reason the rebellious angels chose to have relations with women, was to try and corrupt human DNA because they knew Jesus would be miraculously brought about as seed through humans. Maybe they figured if they corrupted the human gene pool, they would have thwarted Jehovahs plans.. just thinking out loud.. Definitely living in interesting times..

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

That's the real question though. what's is considered, unrighteousness? Rather, what's unrighteous to the Almighty. Is it just flagrant disregard in the face of Jehovah’s spirit, or is it outright defiance? We know Cain defied Jehovah after being warned. Sadly, humanity has practiced all manner of such. Robert mentioned Lots son-in-laws. They to were also warned, and must have been witness to the blinding the angels put upon the people in the city. Not to mention the angels couldn't find the required amount of souls to stop the coming calamity.
Jesus gives us the illustration of the evil slave, that only the ignorant get a reprieve, the others, certain death. Of course that's during the judgment. What of those pre-flood though, will they after having heard Noah preach a warning and witness to the Ark building? Take Nineveh for example, whatever unrighteousness that city was practicing was obviously a flagrant violation that brought it under condemnation, enough so that it was going to be wiped from the earth had they not listened and changed the path they were on. It's hard to imagine those practicing vile and depraved acts do so out of ignorance. Unrighteousness has its punishments to a higher or lesser degree and since that is the case. Whatever the case, it's looking like we'll have the opportunity to shake hands with the likes of Nero, Caligula even Nimrod. maybe take a meal and photo with one of the all-time favorites, Dr. Mengele, definitely make a great souviner for the photo album. Worst case,
maybe me and Freud could pick these fellas brains, you know, see what makes these boys tick.

“What is considered unrighteous?”

It is a matter of psychology and is essentially a slant on appreciation (heart condition and understanding/appreciation of, along with freedom of expression within a given parameter) based upon the question, ‘what is law’ , ergo, what does it mean in the heart of the individual with free choice?

We are given dominion over all other living things, and so would one needlessly crush the life out of a snail, or, finding one’s self in need of a steak go out and kill Nellie the cow, happily eating grass out in your field on a Sunday morning? Likewise, happily understanding your friend and next door neighbour, would you presume upon his friendship and take an apple from his tree without asking him as you pass by his house.

These choices appear left open to us to presume upon others, or weary them with our persistence unto what is considered law and what is within the boundaries of that law. How deeply does presumption invade into the law until it becomes sin? If we look at the laws written in the Ten Commandments we see that they represent a culmination of intent - murder, adultery, theft, respect, - and the mentalities of thinking that lead to it - coveting, and stress the importance in recognising Jehovah as the Devine representation of the Law.

Yet surprisingly, it is evident that Jehovah listens to His people and will alter His opinion in regard to their point of view - if only to make a point as with Moses and Lot. So what we see within the wheel of law is the freedom of interpretation within parameters of understanding the whole in principle. Principles within law are arguable as is shown within the Bible, and which is why, “understanding” the overall concept of law is the boundary that illustrates “motive”. “Did Jehovah really say that that you would die if you ate from the tree?”

 

[Bk Kevin]

“What is considered unrighteous?”

It is a matter of psychology and is essentially a slant on appreciation (heart condition and understanding/appreciation of, along with freedom of expression within a given parameter) based upon the question, ‘what is law’ , ergo, what does it mean in the heart of the individual with free choice?

We are given dominion over all other living things, and so would one needlessly crush the life out of a snail, or, finding one’s self in need of a steak go out and kill Nellie the cow, happily eating grass out in your field on a Sunday morning? Likewise, happily understanding your friend and next door neighbour, would you presume upon his friendship and take an apple from his tree without asking him as you pass by his house.

These choices appear left open to us to presume upon others, or weary them with our persistence unto what is considered law and what is within the boundaries of that law. How deeply does presumption invade into the law until it becomes sin? If we look at the laws written in the Ten Commandments we see that they represent a culmination of intent - murder, adultery, theft, respect, - and the mentalities of thinking that lead to it - coveting, and stress the importance in recognising Jehovah as the Devine representation of the Law.

Yet surprisingly, it is evident that Jehovah listens to His people and will alter His opinion in regard to their point of view - if only to make a point as with Moses and Lot. So what we see within the wheel of law is the freedom of interpretation within parameters of understanding the whole in principle. Principles within law are arguable as is shown within the Bible, and which is why, “understanding” the overall concept of law is the boundary that illustrates “motive”. “Did Jehovah really say that that you would die if you ate from the tree?”

Scriptures to go along with your thoughts.

Deuteronomy 11​

16 Be careful not to let your heart be enticed to go astray and worship other gods and bow down to them.+ 17 Otherwise, Jehovah’s anger will blaze against you, and he will shut up the heavens so that it will not rain+ and the ground will not give its produce and you will quickly perish from the good land that Jehovah is giving you.+

18 “You must impress these words of mine on your heart and your soul* and bind them as a reminder on your hand, and they should be like a headband on your forehead.*+ 19 Teach them to your children, speaking about them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up.+ 20 Write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates, 21 so that you and your sons may live long+ in the land that Jehovah swore to give to your forefathers,+ for as long as the heavens are over the earth.

22 “If you strictly observe this commandment that I am giving you and you carry it out, to love Jehovah your God,+ to walk in all his ways and to cling to him,+ 23 Jehovah will drive away all these nations from before you,+ and you will dispossess nations greater and more numerous than you are.+ 24 Every place you set your foot will become yours.+ From the wilderness up to Lebʹa·non, from the River, the river Eu·phraʹtes, to the western sea,* your boundary will become.+ 25 Nobody will stand up to you.+ Jehovah your God will spread the dread and the fear of you over the whole land on which you walk,+ just as he promised you.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

Scriptures to go along with your thoughts.

Deuteronomy 11​

16 Be careful not to let your heart be enticed to go astray and worship other gods and bow down to them.+ 17 Otherwise, Jehovah’s anger will blaze against you, and he will shut up the heavens so that it will not rain+ and the ground will not give its produce and you will quickly perish from the good land that Jehovah is giving you.+

18 “You must impress these words of mine on your heart and your soul* and bind them as a reminder on your hand, and they should be like a headband on your forehead.*+ 19 Teach them to your children, speaking about them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up.+ 20 Write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates, 21 so that you and your sons may live long+ in the land that Jehovah swore to give to your forefathers,+ for as long as the heavens are over the earth.

22 “If you strictly observe this commandment that I am giving you and you carry it out, to love Jehovah your God,+ to walk in all his ways and to cling to him,+ 23 Jehovah will drive away all these nations from before you,+ and you will dispossess nations greater and more numerous than you are.+ 24 Every place you set your foot will become yours.+ From the wilderness up to Lebʹa·non, from the River, the river Eu·phraʹtes, to the western sea,* your boundary will become.+ 25 Nobody will stand up to you.+ Jehovah your God will spread the dread and the fear of you over the whole land on which you walk,+ just as he promised you.

Those scriptures certainly speak about living the Word as if it were your own. I do not think it will be a problem for us once we can understand its completion within our hearts. Thanks for writing them out.

 

[Bk Kevin]

Those scriptures certainly speak about living the Word as if it were your own. I do not think it will be a problem for us once we can understand its completion within our hearts. Thanks for writing them out.

Your thoughts made me think about having a Bible trained conscience this morning, thank you for that