What if Trump Gets Re-Elected?

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Antimanrule

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SusanB

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Everyone is being played who supports manrule, they are setting Trump up to be a savior, he will be another WEF puppet and once again people will trust him...we can have warpspeed 2.0 or people staying in this system longer and everyone can die supporting manrule. I support Jehovah and Jesus.


Smh, every religion and government is the same, always look to a human leader to rule. Pathetic. Jesus promised 2 helpers-holy spirit and spirit of truth and what do people do? Go trust a human leader to tell them what to do.

"But we want the melons of Egypt and we want to say these gods brought us out of Egypt" -the foolish virgins, the unfaithful, the wicked, those who look to human leaders to spoonfeed them.

"Look at me, I have a position" ooooo ah ooga booga and he makes the dead go wild!

"I am chosen by God and he says it isn't time to flee, stay in the cities..enjoy yourselves, when my prophecy comes true, God will save us..no need to heed any commands...imma just follow the Governing Body intepretation and say you don't need to flee to the mountains literally..heck I AM THE MOUNTAIN BLAH BLAH BLAH"

How many wives cheat on their husbands to follow a human leader other than their husband or even Lord Jesus? 2 Cor 11:1-6 "I wish you would put up with me in a little unreasonableness. But, in fact, you are putting up with me! 2 For I am jealous over you with a godly jealousy, for I personally promised you in marriage to one husband that I might present you as a chaste virgin to the Christ. 3 But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ. 4 For as it is, if someone comes and preaches a Jesus other than the one we preached, or you receive a spirit other than what you received, or good news other than what you accepted, you easily put up with him. 5 For I consider that I have not proved inferior to your superfine apostles in a single thing. 6 But even if I am unskilled in speech, I certainly am not in knowledge; indeed we made it clear to you in every way and in everything."

Its a real shame no one can stop being an adulterous coward. The crime for stealing the congregation from Christ is death. The tickling of the ears of those who are eager to blame a human leader and say "The one whom you put in charge told me to (do whatever) and so I listened" way to go Adam, no better than Adam.

Don't you dare blame an "anointed one" for your failure when the tree was moist and when you seen these shortcomings and was warned repeatedly even in the bible. There is no shortcut to the Kingdom of God through ignorance, stupidity, and disobedience.
Good points but on the other hand, we will have to be able to identify the symbolic “Jew” because we will need to grab onto their robe (Zechariah 8:23) and there are some who have been given an assignment to feed his sheep even though they are not yet sealed. So, we still must be discerning and I think the measurement is how closely they follow God’s word.

I haven’t seen your posts before this one and I want to welcome you to the forum and I can see by this post that you have solid grounding in the scriptures. I’ve thought a lot about cowardice because it appears to me to be an issue among the brothers and sisters. When I did a search for coward and cowardice in the scriptures, I only found these 2 instances in the NWT but they are important ones.

Revelation 21:8: “ But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderers and the sexually immoral and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This means the second death.”

2 Timothy 1:7: “For God did not give us a spirit of cowardice, but one of power and of love and of soundness of mind.”


The subject of cowardice makes me think of the illogical use of masks.

***Edited to add for the forum members, I believe this poster is really Angel of Thyatira who has been banned twice already and keeps coming back with a new name. I just now recognized his way of communicating. Think of saying this idiom in the most proper English way of speaking (think of the Butler in the movie Arthur), “It’s time to put the chairs in the wagon”. That’s actually hillbilly speak and the translation is GOODBYE.
 
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Good points but on the other hand, we will have to be able to identify the symbolic “Jew” because we will need to grab onto their robe (Zechariah 8:23) and there are some who have been given an assignment to feed his sheep even though they are not yet sealed. So, we still must be discerning and I think the measurement is how closely they follow God’s word.

I haven’t seen your posts before this one and I want to welcome you to the forum and I can see by this post that you have solid grounding in the scriptures. I’ve thought a lot about cowardice because it appears to me to be an issue among the brothers and sisters. When I did a search for coward and cowardice in the scriptures, I only found these 2 instances in the NWT but they are important ones.

Revelation 21:8: “ But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderers and the sexually immoral and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This means the second death.”

2 Timothy 1:7: “For God did not give us a spirit of cowardice, but one of power and of love and of soundness of mind.”


The subject of cowardice makes me think of the illogical use of masks.

Jehovah had given the Israelites judges to lead them, but they wanted a king. They said to Samuel: ‘All the nations around us have kings. We want one too.’ Samuel felt that this was wrong, so he prayed to Jehovah about it. Jehovah said to him: ‘The people are not rejecting you. They are rejecting me. Tell them that they can have a king but that the king will demand many things from them.’ Even so, the people said: ‘We don’t care. We want a king!’

The cowardice I am talking about is the type that obeys the human king no matter which direction that king goes or whom he chooses to insult, censor, and decides to reject with no scriptual basis. The Governing Body censored all who opposed them on the vaccine. To me, masks was a placebo not really an act of cowardice.

In terms of Israelite kings as well as now..I call them the scapegoat class, they call themselves "anointed" for glory and to be followed, the end is the same as the nations because once again man cannot direct his own footstep. The scapegoat class ends those who trust in man and cannot produce fruits of their own and it is foretold this would occur in whole chapter 13 of Zechariah..that includes Governing Body of Jehovahs Witnesses, all religious leaders, and any offshoots of these or creations of new religions. Whoever grabs onto the robes has already chosen a human king..its a vicious cycle until both sides (scapegoats and followers of man) is destroyed. The shepards have all been striked and those who break free and take into account what is true and moral and what isn't (its part of washing ones robes) I mean when we had to correct people on crosses, holidays, birthdays..what did we do? We done research on how these falsehoods and doctrines was formed and we mounted a defense..a pretty good one too, Reasoning from the Scriptures book was very helpful throughout the ministry. How did we form the defense though? We formed it through research of encyclopedias and a number of reliable sources where we came to an accurate knowledge and then distributed that accurate knowledge. Did that require following a human leader? No. The spirit of truth was given to all of us at that time by who? Those who wrote the encyclopedias? Those who wrote the manuscripts that made up the bible? Those who was put to death for making the bible? Who really is the faith and discreet slave? Its everyone who seeks truth, knows decernment, obtains knowledge producing wisdom, and gives it freely. Intepretations are tricky, us Jehovahs Witnesses believed we was gonna be attacked with guns...not vaccines. It is when one closes the door on intepretation, then the enemy decides what to do. Jehovahs witnesses showed the full deck of cards to their enemy, in turn the enemy used something they didn't see, if its that easy to take out those leaders at the top..how much more so the robed Jew?
 
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SusanB

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…Whoever grabs onto the robes has already chosen a human king..its a vicious cycle until both sides (scapegoats and followers of man) is destroyed. …. The spirit of truth was given to all of us at that time by who? … Who really is the faith and discreet slave? Its everyone who seeks truth, knows decernment, obtains knowledge producing wisdom, and gives it freely. Intepretations are tricky, us Jehovahs Witnesses believed we was gonna be attacked with guns...not vaccines. It is when one closes the door on intepretation, then the enemy decides what to do. Jehovahs witnesses showed the full deck of cards to their enemy, in turn the enemy used something they didn't see, if its that easy to take out those leaders at the top..how much more so the robed Jew?
Okay, so I think I am understanding you but not agreeing with you. So, Zechariah 8:23 has no meaning to you and there is no differentiation between anointed and those who will live on earth? I just want to be clear and sure of my understanding before I block you.

Zechariah 8:23: “This is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: “We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.”’”

There is a some real nonsense in your comment.
 
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Okay, so I think I am understanding you but not agreeing with you. So, Zechariah 8:23 has no meaning to you and there is no differentiation between anointed the those who will live on earth? I just want to be clear and sure of my understanding before I block you.

Zechariah 8:23: “This is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: “We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.”’”

There is a some real nonsense in your comment.
So you're saying that the anointed cannot fall? Just wanted to make sure, blocked.
 

Maybelle

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They are all on the same side, the illusion is that the vote matters. In all seriousness, voting never done anything and the goals of the rich and powerful doom anything said to come against them until Jehovah and Lord Jesus take action.
I think we know that they are all on Satan side. We are looking for a pushing and shoving between the king of the north and south. If you have read Robert Kings book or articles, you will know he writes that this is British Empre/America. So trump/America pushing back is important for those keeping on the watch.
 

Cristo

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So you're saying that the anointed cannot fall? Just wanted to make sure, blocked

The bible does seem to indicate that the chosen can fall:

(Heb 6:4-6) “. . .For it is impossible as regards those who have once for all been enlightened, and who have tasted the heavenly free gift, and who have become partakers of holy spirit, 5 and who have tasted the fine word of God and powers of the coming system of things, 6 but who have fallen away, to revive them again to repentance, because they impale the Son of God afresh for themselves and expose him to public shame.”

I'm not sure why all the hostility in the above comments, I don't see why there was a need to go there. However, i'm also not sure what point you are trying to make. Is the point you are saying that 'they' are all on the same side? If so, who is the 'they' you refer to?
 
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Soul Sage

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Seeing alot of anti human rhetoric in here. Being overly zealous can be a stumbling block. No human is perfect but if we expect perfection we ourselves are the fools. Did Jesus Christ curse Peter to eternal damnation when he denied knowing Jesus 3 different times? No, he loved him very much despite that. Did Jesus Christ do what his brother John suggested and destroy that town with a rain of fire because they disrespected Jesus arrival and didn't take him in? No, he corrected John even if those people were bad and did no harm to them. Giving them a chance to seek errors of their ways. This applies to you, Antimanrule.

We still have to manage with human leadership in the meantime. Best thing for you to do is be a leader on a small scale within your family. And teach them and protect them from the dangers along with God's blessings.
 
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The bible does seem to indicate that the chosen can fall:

(Heb 6:4-6) “. . .For it is impossible as regards those who have once for all been enlightened, and who have tasted the heavenly free gift, and who have become partakers of holy spirit, 5 and who have tasted the fine word of God and powers of the coming system of things, 6 but who have fallen away, to revive them again to repentance, because they impale the Son of God afresh for themselves and expose him to public shame.”

I'm not sure why all the hostility in the above comments, I don't see why there was a need to go there. However, i'm also not sure what point you are trying to make. Is the point you are saying that 'they' are all on the same side? If so, who is the 'they' you refer to?
"they" was referred to as both political sides such as right wing/leftists, I wasn't referring to anointed, apologies I didn't make that clear.
 
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The bible does seem to indicate that the chosen can fall:

(Heb 6:4-6) “. . .For it is impossible as regards those who have once for all been enlightened, and who have tasted the heavenly free gift, and who have become partakers of holy spirit, 5 and who have tasted the fine word of God and powers of the coming system of things, 6 but who have fallen away, to revive them again to repentance, because they impale the Son of God afresh for themselves and expose him to public shame.”

I'm not sure why all the hostility in the above comments, I don't see why there was a need to go there. However, i'm also not sure what point you are trying to make. Is the point you are saying that 'they' are all on the same side? If so, who is the 'they' you refer to?
But yes, anointed are flesh and blood just like us and no one is completely incorruptable or able to direct their own footsteps let alone others footsteps. As far as I can tell, there is some who can't stand the thought of not having a human leader and eventually it will catch up to them..people under almost every Israelite king definitely payed for it. Once the real anointed are chosen by Lord Jesus and Lord Jesus himself makes it known, then it would be better, at least Lord Jesus will know their thoughts and hearts and be guided by him.
 
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Seeing alot of anti human rhetoric in here. Being overly zealous can be a stumbling block. No human is perfect but if we expect perfection we ourselves are the fools. Did Jesus Christ curse Peter to eternal damnation when he denied knowing Jesus 3 different times? No, he loved him very much despite that. Did Jesus Christ do what his brother John suggested and destroy that town with a rain of fire because they disrespected Jesus arrival and didn't take him in? No, he corrected John even if those people were bad and did no harm to them. Giving them a chance to seek errors of their ways. This applies to you, Antimanrule.

We still have to manage with human leadership in the meantime. Best thing for you to do is be a leader on a small scale within your family. And teach them and protect them from the dangers along with God's blessings.
There is a difference, Peter and John did not say they was anointed and get people to follow them. As far as me and my family, we are all equals and we teach eachother and show eachother scriptures us each fall short in and we upbuild one another, there is nothing hidden and its an even playing field when it comes to the bible. Everyone when given the chance is able to produce fruits of their own.
 
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Antimanrule

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I think we know that they are all on Satan side. We are looking for a pushing and shoving between the king of the north and south. If you have read Robert Kings book or articles, you will know he writes that this is British Empre/America. So trump/America pushing back is important for those keeping on the watch.
I thought the King of the North was Russia and its allies but more and more evidence suggests King of the North is leaned towards Communism while King of the South leans towards Democracy so the reason it keeps changing is based on who is fighting against Democracy and we see the United Nations, world health organization, world economic forum, Russia and its allies all matching that criteria. The pushing is whoever is involved in that war, not exactly the leaders but an idea, we see those in the U.S. fighting against communism, the idea the ones that are fighting against it is for Democracy and freedom, Joe Biden stands for democracy but he makes no use of his position..we have already seen the laws changed by the World Health Organization. Democracy already fell, the next pandemic is what makes everyone realize that.
 

Maybelle

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I thought the King of the North was Russia and its allies but more and more evidence suggests King of the North is leaned towards Communism while King of the South leans towards Democracy so the reason it keeps changing is based on who is fighting against Democracy and we see the United Nations, world health organization, world economic forum, Russia and its allies all matching that criteria. The pushing is whoever is involved in that war, not exactly the leaders but an idea, we see those in the U.S. fighting against communism, the idea the ones that are fighting against it is for Democracy and freedom, Joe Biden stands for democracy but he makes no use of his position..we have already seen the laws changed by the World Health Organization. Democracy already fell, the next pandemic is what makes everyone realize that.
The king of the north being Russia is what the watchtower says, however that doesn’t make sense. Neither does democracy/communism.
Our host Robert King has written on this subject, including in his book Jehovah has become king…there is a thread on the book review https://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/index.php?forums/jehovah-has-become-king-book-review.22/

Also some YouTube videos on the subject this is 4 parts of KON/KOS




 
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There is a difference, Peter and John did not say they was anointed and get people to follow them. As far as me and my family, we are all equals and we teach eachother and show eachother scriptures us each fall short in and we upbuild one another, there is nothing hidden and its an even playing field when it comes to the bible. Everyone when given the chance is able to produce fruits of their own.
You really don't know what you are talking about. Peter and John both wrote letters that makeup part of the Christian Scriptures. John specifically wrote about the anointing in his first letter. Paul wrote the bulk of the NT and he exhorted others to follow his example, to become imitators of him even as he was of Christ.
 
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You really don't know what you are talking about. Peter and John both wrote letters that makeup part of the Christian Scriptures. John specifically wrote about the anointing in his first letter. Paul wrote the bulk of the NT and he exhorted others to follow his example, to become imitators of him even as he was of Christ.
So does that mean to say that we are now Christ? No. It means to be christlike, not to say "we are anointed like Christ" perhaps you missed that part.
 
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Antimanrule

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The king of the north being Russia is what the watchtower says, however that doesn’t make sense. Neither does democracy/communism.
Our host Robert King has written on this subject, including in his book Jehovah has become king…there is a thread on the book review https://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/index.php?forums/jehovah-has-become-king-book-review.22/

Also some YouTube videos on the subject this is 4 parts of KON/KOS




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