"When ever it is, that they are saying peace and security"....

kenmuldoon55

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I'm not quite sure how to camp at -30 C? Maybe I'll just set the house on fire. That oughta keep me warm for a while.
I suppose if an angel could keep Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego from burning alive, or Elijah from going hungry , one could keep us from freezing to death or starving in the absence of shelter or food should Jehovah deem it necessary.
Is anything too great for our God?
 
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Carl

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I suppose if an angel could keep Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego from burning alive, or Elijah from going hungry , one could keep us from freezing to death or starving in the absence of shelter or food should Jehovah deem it necessary.
Is anything too great for our God?
The Bible assures us that Jehovah will provide... manna, oil, meat, water, firewood... I'm working hard to stash enough supplies so I can help whoever Jehovah sends my way.
 

Prodigal One

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I am finding the current shifting of sands relating to the “MAGA” movement fascinating. Just when it seemed that the neo-liberals were succeeding, there really seems to be a significant change of direction. The speaker of the House changing, the release of the Jan 6th Tapes, the court case in Colorado surprising everyone to keep Trump on the Ballots and the massive lead he has in the Polls, all seems to be indicating that 2024 might be the year for Trump to return against all odds - the massive swing to his favour makes it seem that even the deep state won’t be able to fix the result.
Could this be the true “pushing” by the King of the South?
Is the “pushing” and resulting “draining the Swamp” connected to the “Peace and Security”? Due to Trumps intentions to stop funding war and re-focus on domestic issues?
 

Watchman

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There is a flurry of diplomatic stuff going on, including an emergency meeting of the BRICS 11 to discuss the genocide in Gaza. Russia and China are the heavyweights since they are two of the five permanent members of the Security Council. There is a UN Security Council meeting later today to discuss peace and security; of course, that is nothing new, but at some point, they will have to make their prophesied declaration.

The Watchtower has been focused on the fulfillment of this prophecy for a long time. But the GB does not have in focus what occurs when they are saying "peace and security." The WT claims it will begin the tribulation. But that conflicts with their prediction that Babylon the Great goes down at the beginning of the tribulation. I am on record saying it will be the beginning of the time of the end and the coming of Christ to initiate judgment. As far as human efforts, it is always much harder to stop a war once it gets going than to prevent one before it starts. That is why I expect the proclamation of "peace and security" to precede WW3.

What I have come to appreciate is that the fulfillment of the prophecy will be apparent to everyone, especially Jehovah's Witnesses since the New World Translation, perhaps by divine providence, uses the expression "peace and security"; whereas most translations say "peace and safety." Peace and security, though, is the official jargon used by the United Nations. So, if things do not develop as the Watchtower has foretold and instead of the tribulation WW3 begins, the Watchtower will be done especially if they do not acknowledge their 1914 error. Jehovah has set it up so that JWs will be forced to choose between believing their own eyes that the prophecy has been fulfilled or trusting in the organization that has misled them. The sons of light will get it right. Unfortunately many will be stumbled and hate one another and betray one another.

 
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Watchman

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Right on cue, China's President Xi said without a just settlement there will be no "peace and security" in the Middle East. Xi calls for an international peace pow-wow. Keep on talk'n boys. We listen'n. 👂

 

Maybelle

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There is a flurry of diplomatic stuff going on, including an emergency meeting of the BRICS 11 to discuss the genocide in Gaza. Russia and China are the heavyweights. There is a UN Security Council meeting later today to discuss peace and security; of course, that is nothing new, but at some point, they will have to make their prophesied declaration.

The Watchtower has been focused on the fulfillment of this prophecy for a long time. But the GB does not have in focus what occurs when they are saying "peace and security." The WT claims it will begin the tribulation. But that conflicts with their prediction that Babylon the Great goes down at the beginning of the tribulation. I am on record saying it will be the beginning of the time of the end and the coming of Christ to initiate judgment. As far as human efforts, it is always much harder to stop a war once it gets going than to prevent one before it starts. That is why I expect the proclamation of "peace and security" to precede WW3.

What I have come to appreciate is that the fulfillment of the prophecy will be apparent to everyone, especially Jehovah's Witnesses since the New World Translation, perhaps by divine providence, uses the expression "peace and security"; whereas most translations say "peace and safety." Peace and security, though, is the official jargon used by the United Nations. So, if things do not develop as the Watchtower has foretold and instead of the tribulation WW3 begins, the Watchtower will be done especially if they do not acknowledge their 1914 error. Jehovah has set it up so that JWs will be forced to choose between believing their own eyes that the prophecy has been fulfilled or trusting in the organization that has misled them. The sons of light will get it right. Unfortunately many will be stumbled and hate one another and betray one another.

Thank you for the clarification
 
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