When is the end of Christianity?

kenmuldoon55 said:
Many instances of non Jews throwing their lot in with Gods people. I’m leaning towards a great crowd affiliation for those rather then becoming part of the sealed brothers of Jesus group as Mick intimates.
I subscribe to the notion (for what it’s worth) that during the last part of the great tribulation (prior to the actual start of the eighth king’s 42 month long rule), when everyone on earth realizes that judgment from the one seated on the throne has arrived ie everyone seeing the sign of the son of man, that Jehovah allows a brief window for people to make their decision to submit either to Him or to more human rule which many will be clamoring for.
I personally can’t see any reason for Jehovah allowing any further salvation opportunities after that point.
If anyone still wants the “mountains to fall on them and protect them from the one seated on the throne, after witnessing the government created horrors that caused a near extinction level event, then such ones could never reform and be fully deserving of the eternal cutting off.
Also any who may not want to ally with more failed human government but at the same time aren’t moved to side with Christs rule either, are worthy of the same fate. Hopefully your loved ones will not be in either of those two categories.
My two cents.
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It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other who gets anointed, whoever is chosen to rule with Christ is fine with me. Cornelius comes to mind as a non-Jew who was anointed, but will this example repeat? Again, it really doesn't matter in the long run... it's just another question that will be answered soon.

I believe Jehovah will make sure that every person knows they have a big choice to make before they have the option to accept or reject the MOTB (Probably not those who've sinned against the Holy Spirit though). The deeper one lives in sin, the more difficult it will be to hear their conscience and change course though... and quite possibly the more difficult it will be to truly understand the choice before them. Whether it's instantaneous process whereby the GC are sealed after they reject the MOTB is anyone's guess. My guess would be that prospective members of the GC will receive some sort of enlightenment via the HS which will cause them to either align their will with Jehovah's or reject it and accept Satan's mark.
 
Carl said:
It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other who gets anointed, whoever is chosen to rule with Christ is fine with me. Cornelius comes to mind as a non-Jew who was anointed, but will this example repeat? Again, it really doesn't matter in the long run... it's just another question that will be answered soon.

I believe Jehovah will make sure that every person knows they have a big choice to make before they have the option to accept or reject the MOTB (Probably not those who've sinned against the Holy Spirit though). The deeper one lives in sin, the more difficult it will be to hear their conscience and change course though... and quite possibly the more difficult it will be to truly understand the choice before them. Whether it's instantaneous process whereby the GC are sealed after they reject the MOTB is anyone's guess. My guess would be that prospective members of the GC will receive some sort of enlightenment via the HS which will cause them to either align their will with Jehovah's or reject it and accept Satan's mark.
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What is HS?
 
Carl said:
It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other who gets anointed, whoever is chosen to rule with Christ is fine with me. Cornelius comes to mind as a non-Jew who was anointed, but will this example repeat? Again, it really doesn't matter in the long run... it's just another question that will be answered soon.

I believe Jehovah will make sure that every person knows they have a big choice to make before they have the option to accept or reject the MOTB (Probably not those who've sinned against the Holy Spirit though). The deeper one lives in sin, the more difficult it will be to hear their conscience and change course though... and quite possibly the more difficult it will be to truly understand the choice before them. Whether it's instantaneous process whereby the GC are sealed after they reject the MOTB is anyone's guess. My guess would be that prospective members of the GC will receive some sort of enlightenment via the HS which will cause them to either align their will with Jehovah's or reject it and accept Satan's mark.
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“and quite possibly the more difficult it will be to truly understand the choice before them.”

I think you are absolutely right Carl, because if one is to make the choice to survive, they must first understand what that choice entails; and for those in love with the world and all it offers and ignorant of the Word, they little know what they are throwing away.

The kingdom has to be a choice that has consequences. That is the test. What is our motivation to choose the kingdom? It has to be based upon the greater understanding of what such a choice entails - and for that to be worth dying for, it’s going to take a great deal of understanding in depth, as to what the kingdom is - the personification of the Holy Spirit and the embracement of His attributes. That is quite an ask for a materialistic lover of this system to conceptualise. It boils down to what the heart is familiar with.
 
Carl said:
It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other who gets anointed, whoever is chosen to rule with Christ is fine with me. Cornelius comes to mind as a non-Jew who was anointed, but will this example repeat? Again, it really doesn't matter in the long run... it's just another question that will be answered soon.

I believe Jehovah will make sure that every person knows they have a big choice to make before they have the option to accept or reject the MOTB (Probably not those who've sinned against the Holy Spirit though). The deeper one lives in sin, the more difficult it will be to hear their conscience and change course though... and quite possibly the more difficult it will be to truly understand the choice before them. Whether it's instantaneous process whereby the GC are sealed after they reject the MOTB is anyone's guess. My guess would be that prospective members of the GC will receive some sort of enlightenment via the HS which will cause them to either align their will with Jehovah's or reject it and accept Satan's mark.
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It will indeed be a conscious decision. Jehovah does not condemn someone to eternal destruction (the greatest punishment) just for ignorance or for being mislead. It must be a conscious decision just like several parts of the Bible show. They will know they will have rejected Christ, that they will have accepted Satan as their savior, and the consequences for that. They will willingly worship Satan and will never show regret as Revelation shows.
 
LuisMerino9412 said:
It will indeed be a conscious decision. Jehovah does not condemn someone to eternal destruction (the greatest punishment) just for ignorance or for being mislead. It must be a conscious decision just like several parts of the Bible show. They will know they will have rejected Christ, that they will have accepted Satan as their savior, and the consequences for that. They will willingly worship Satan and will never show regret as Revelation shows.
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I agree, which is why I think a lot of people from Christendom will become part of the Great Crowd. Many will never reject Jesus.
 
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