The command to “make disciples” in Matthew 28:19-20 is about making disciples of Christ, not of the WT, even though in “WT land” it’s equated with getting baptized into the organization. Bible Lover, Why are you assuming we're all inactive here? Many of us on this forum talk about God and his son on a daily basis. There's no Bible scripture that tells us this can only be done through an organized religion.
When people cite Hebrews 10:25 about “not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together,” we should remember what Jesus said in Matthew 18:20: “Where two or more are gathered in my name, there I am in their midst.” We are gathered here, discussing scriptures, so we are not forsaking the gathering. The WT has twisted passages like these to convince people they must be associated with the organization and preach the WT’s message, rather than the actual gospel of the Lord — that Christ died for our sins, was buried, and was raised, as 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 defines it.
The good news of the Kingdom that would be “preached in all the inhabited earth,” Matthew 24:14, didn’t start with Jehovah’s Witnesses. It began with the apostles in the first century, Acts 2:38-42, and it centers on Christ Jesus, not on WT doctrines.
So going back to the Hall would mean returning to preach false teachings, 2 Peter 2:1, submit to GB rules that go “beyond what is written,” 1 Corinthians 4:6, and associate with Witnesses who “obey men rather than God,” Acts 5:29.
Biblelover, how could any of us here, knowing what we now know, go back to that in good conscience? We’d be living a lie, preaching a lie, and failing to serve God “in spirit and truth,” John 4:24. It just doesn’t make sense — not at all.
Jehovah pulled us out for a reason and showed us what we now know for a reason. I’m going to trust that direction and obey the command to “get out of her, my people,” Revelation 18:4, and “quit touching the unclean thing,” 2 Corinthians 6:17.
This is a thoughtful point, and I appreciate the way you’re grounding it in Scripture.
I agree that the command in Matthew 28:19–20 is about making disciples of Christ. That has to remain the center, not any human structure.
Also, you made a good point about Jesus’ words in
Matthew 18:20 — that even a small group gathered in his name has real value. I completely agree with that. Nevertheless, when I look at the immediate
context, Jesus was speaking about
situations involving accountability and resolving matters among believers (Matthew 18:15–17). So the emphasis there seems to be on his presence supporting unity and decisions among those gathered, even if they are few.
That doesn’t take away from the encouragement we can get from small gatherings or discussions like this. But it also suggests those gatherings were still connected to a broader network of relationships and responsibility among believers.
When I look at the wider New Testament, I also notice that the early Christians
didn’t only gather informally — they functioned in a visible, organized way, with regular association, mutual support, and coordinated activity (for example, Acts 2:42).
So for me, the question hasn’t been “organization or no organization,” but rather how do we keep Christ at the center while still living our faith in a practical, active way among others?
Regarding conscience, I think that’s something each person has to protect carefully.
1 Corinthians 4:4 shows that ultimately we answer to Jehovah. So I understand why, for some, certain things feel difficult or even impossible to reconcile.
At the same time, I’ve also been reflecting on the fact that first-century Christians
didn’t have perfect understanding either. There were misunderstandings, tensions, even wrong expectations at times — and yet
they didn’t withdraw. They continued meeting, encouraging one another, and growing over time.
So for me personally, the challenge has been finding a way to remain honest in my conscience, keep Christ truly at the center
and still stay connected and active in a way that builds faith, not just analyzes it
I don’t think there’s a simple, one-size-fits-all answer. But I do think it’s something worth reflecting on carefully, without assuming that the only faithful option must be complete separation or complete agreement.
That’s the balance I’ve been trying to work through.