Why Jehovah stopped the Tower of Babel and how it relates towards today

[Soul Sage]

As we read throughout the Bible. Jehovah intervenes at certain points. With casting Adam and Eve out of the garden when they sinned. The flood. The towel of Babel. Stretching out the red sea. The birth of Jesus Christ and soon to be, Armageddon.
Focusing on the tower of Babel. Why would God want to destroy the plans for something that would bring humanity together? Genesis 11:1-32 highlights the mentality of the builders. "Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with a top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves..." Notice the key word, "make a name for themselves" not to God but to themselves. These very same ones had little or no faith in God. They all know the flood happened before and the reasoning for building a tower that high was so the flood waters could never reach them. Even though Jehovah gave us the promise to never flood the earth like that again with the rainbow.
So who cares if they make a tower that high. No big deal, right? This other scripture is an important one. In Genesis 11:6 "Behold, they are one people, and they have one language, and this is the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them."

Whenever something revolutionary starts to begin, a good example is the early stage of the internet. It was well intentioned and people from all over the world could talk to each other and through translation apps we could understand and communicate ideas and thoughts together. It had good intentions in the beginning but as we see the internet today. It's filled with satanic propaganda and it's acceptable in mainstream. It corrupts the minds of many. "And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them." That includes propagating evil and corrupting good intentioned people into delusional maniacs. Jehovah realized that centralizing humanity in this area would have a hugely corrupting influence on them and therefore that too threatened the lineage of Jesus Christ. Even though fallen angels could not materialize the people back then practiced spiritism and used mind altering drugs that caused them to hallucinate and be in communication with these demons. Pharmakia was practiced back then as well.
Jehovah saw the importance of decentralizing the people so that corrupting influence would not fully succumb humanity when the population of humans were still relatively small. So the next scripture brings out another interesting point. At Deuteronomy 32:8. "When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the people with regard to the number of the sons of Israel."

How very nationalistic of God to do so, right? At least that's what the Watchtower has people thinking. Jehovah believed in land ownership and borders. And because Jehovah made nations from dispersing the people to spread out, the truth wouldn't be as suppressed as it would be under a one world order like the Tower of Babel represented. The Satanic censorship of the truth would be devastating. We see that know with authoritarian media censoring individuals if they go against the agenda and these are the very same ones that are for open border policy's because their worldview is establishing that new Tower of Babel again and influence all governments of the world to obey their authority, like how we seen it happen during the COVID years. The United Nations is this new Tower of Babel. Along with these other NGO's. And they have really come together in lockstep with each other as if nothing is impossible for them to accomplish. And you can see the corrupting influence they have along with mainstream media and the intelligence agencies who are pretty much one of the same. You can see their very biased censorship and their constant bickering towards white Christians nationalists. It tells you they hate Christians who aren't inclusive and aren't globalists. Globalism means you want to control and/or have influence on the world, that sounds way more evil than a person who just wants to live within a nation with their own laws and rules. And they have to throw race into it because that's what divides people. So yes, they're definitely coming for us. They have their targets on Trump supporters right now but once that time period is over they will have their focus even more intensely on Christians who don't support their secular idealism. I just really wish I could tell the GB members that the United Nations are not their friends and they need to look into the parallels of the Tower of Babel and of globalist organizations that are trying to establish a one world order. People that are proud nationalists are just like people who are proud of their home property. While people that want to take over the world are a much greater threat as Revelation warns us.

 

[The God Pill]

Brazen as ever

 

[The God Pill]

As we read throughout the Bible. Jehovah intervenes at certain points. With casting Adam and Eve out of the garden when they sinned. The flood. The towel of Babel. Stretching out the red sea. The birth of Jesus Christ and soon to be, Armageddon.
Focusing on the tower of Babel. Why would God want to destroy the plans for something that would bring humanity together? Genesis 11:1-32 highlights the mentality of the builders. "Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with a top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves..." Notice the key word, "make a name for themselves" not to God but to themselves. These very same ones had little or no faith in God. They all know the flood happened before and the reasoning for building a tower that high was so the flood waters could never reach them. Even though Jehovah gave us the promise to never flood the earth like that again with the rainbow.
So who cares if they make a tower that high. No big deal, right? This other scripture is an important one. In Genesis 11:6 "Behold, they are one people, and they have one language, and this is the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them."

Whenever something revolutionary starts to begin, a good example is the early stage of the internet. It was well intentioned and people from all over the world could talk to each other and through translation apps we could understand and communicate ideas and thoughts together. It had good intentions in the beginning but as we see the internet today. It's filled with satanic propaganda and it's acceptable in mainstream. It corrupts the minds of many. "And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them." That includes propagating evil and corrupting good intentioned people into delusional maniacs. Jehovah realized that centralizing humanity in this area would have a hugely corrupting influence on them and therefore that too threatened the lineage of Jesus Christ. Even though fallen angels could not materialize the people back then practiced spiritism and used mind altering drugs that caused them to hallucinate and be in communication with these demons. Pharmakia was practiced back then as well.
Jehovah saw the importance of decentralizing the people so that corrupting influence would not fully succumb humanity when the population of humans were still relatively small. So the next scripture brings out another interesting point. At Deuteronomy 32:8. "When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the people with regard to the number of the sons of Israel."

How very nationalistic of God to do so, right? At least that's what the Watchtower has people thinking. Jehovah believed in land ownership and borders. And because Jehovah made nations from dispersing the people to spread out, the truth wouldn't be as suppressed as it would be under a one world order like the Tower of Babel represented. The Satanic censorship of the truth would be devastating. We see that know with authoritarian media censoring individuals if they go against the agenda and these are the very same ones that are for open border policy's because their worldview is establishing that new Tower of Babel again and influence all governments of the world to obey their authority, like how we seen it happen during the COVID years. The United Nations is this new Tower of Babel. Along with these other NGO's. And they have really come together in lockstep with each other as if nothing is impossible for them to accomplish. And you can see the corrupting influence they have along with mainstream media and the intelligence agencies who are pretty much one of the same. You can see their very biased censorship and their constant bickering towards white Christians nationalists. It tells you they hate Christians who aren't inclusive and aren't globalists. Globalism means you want to control and/or have influence on the world, that sounds way more evil than a person who just wants to live within a nation with their own laws and rules. And they have to throw race into it because that's what divides people. So yes, they're definitely coming for us. They have their targets on Trump supporters right now but once that time period is over they will have their focus even more intensely on Christians who don't support their secular idealism. I just really wish I could tell the GB members that the United Nations are not their friends and they need to look into the parallels of the Tower of Babel and of globalist organizations that are trying to establish a one world order. People that are proud nationalists are just like people who are proud of their home property. While people that want to take over the world are a much greater threat as Revelation warns us.

How much do you think the "national gods"/angel princes that later became corrupts dominion is related to the variables of geographic territory, language, and ethnicity. For example in Jubilees the Madai rejected their land of inheritance and settled in the middle east does the P of Madai retain influence over the geography or is it more tied to the allotted ethnic and/or language group.

 

[Truth_Seeker]

¶“Behold, as for the impudent one, His soul is not right within him; But the righteous one will live by his faith. “Furthermore, wine betrays an arrogant man (Satan), So that he does not achieve his objective. He enlarges his appetite like Sheol, And he is like death, never satisfied. He also gathers to himself all the nations And collects to himself all the peoples. ¶“Will all of these not take up a song of ridicule against him, Even a saying and insinuations against him And say, ‘Woe to him who increases what is not his— For how long— And makes himself rich with debts!’ “Will your creditors not rise up suddenly, And those who collect from you awaken? Indeed, you will become plunder for them. “Since you have looted many nations, All the rest of the peoples will loot you— Because of human bloodshed and violence done to the land, To the town and all its inhabitants. “Woe to him who makes evil profit for his household, To put his nest on high, To be saved from the hand of catastrophe! “You have planned a shameful thing for your house By bringing many peoples to an end; So you are sinning against yourself.
Habakkuk 2:4‭-‬10

"Behold, you are wiser than Daniel; There is no secret that is a match for you! “By your wisdom and understanding You have acquired riches for yourself And have acquired gold and silver for your treasuries. “By your great wisdom, by your trade You have increased your riches, And your heart is haughty because of your riches— Therefore this is what the Lord God says: ‘Because you have made your heart Like the heart of God, Therefore, behold, I am going to bring strangers against you, The most ruthless of the nations. And they will draw their swords Against the beauty of your wisdom And profane your splendor. ‘They will bring you down to the pit, And you will die the death of those who are killed In the heart of the seas. ‘Will you still say, “I am a god,” In the presence of one who kills you, Though you are a mortal and not God, In the hands of those who wound you? “By the abundance of your trade You were internally filled with violence, And you sinned; Therefore I have cast you as profane From the mountain of God. And I have destroyed you, you covering cherub, From the midst of the stones of fire. “Your heart was haughty because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor. I threw you to the ground; I put you before kings, That they may see you. “By the multitude of your wrongdoings, In the unrighteousness of your trade You profaned your sanctuaries. Therefore I have brought fire from the midst of you; It has consumed you, And I have turned you to ashes on the earth In the eyes of all who see you." Ezekiel 28:3‭-‬9‭, ‬16‭-‬18

"Give the king(Jesus) Your judgments, God, And Your righteousness to the king’s son. May he judge Your people with righteousness And Your afflicted with justice. May he vindicate the afflicted of the people, Save the children of the needy, And crush the oppressor. May they fear You while the sun shines, And as long as the moon shines, throughout all generations. May he come down like rain upon the mown grass, Like showers that water the earth. May the righteous flourish in his days, As well as an abundance of peace, until the moon is no more. May he also rule from sea to sea, And from the Euphrates River to the ends of the earth. May the nomads of the desert bow before him, And his enemies lick the dust. And may all kings bow down before him, All nations serve him. May his name endure forever; May his name produce descendants as long as the sun shines; And may people wish blessings on themselves by him; May all nations call him blessed. Blessed be the Lord God, the God of Israel, Who alone works wonders. And blessed be His glorious name forever; And may the whole earth be filled with His glory. Amen and Amen. Psalms 72:1‭-‬2‭, ‬4‭-‬9‭, ‬11‭, ‬17‭-‬19

"And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever. Just as you saw that a stone was broken off from the mountain without hands, and that it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold, the great God has made known to the king what will take place in the future; so the dream is certain and its interpretation is trustworthy.” Daniel 2:44‭-‬45

Although God left Satan in the position of authority over the earth, for some reason He never permitted him to have a world wide organisation which would have been an imitation to the new world organisation under Jesus. However, he will be permitted to do that just before the Armaghedon starts in the form of the beast of the Revelation. Then then two opposing organisations will have a final battle and the bible makes it clear who wins.

"And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the entire world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty." Revelation 16:13‭-‬14

"The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast. These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of Lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful.”
Revelation 17:12‭-‬14

 

[Truth_Seeker]

that thou shalt take up this parable against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! Jehovah hath broken the staff of the wicked, the sceptre of the rulers; that smote the peoples in wrath with a continual stroke, that ruled the nations in anger, with a persecution that none restrained. The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing. Yea, the fir-trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid low, no hewer is come up against us. Sheol from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming; it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. All they shall answer and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? Thy pomp is brought down to Sheol, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and worms cover thee. How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, that didst lay low the nations! And thou saidst in thy heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; and I will sit upon the mount of congregation, in the uttermost parts of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High. They that see thee shall gaze at thee, they shall consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; that made the world as a wilderness, and overthrew the cities thereof; that let not loose his prisoners to their home? All the kings of the nations, all of them, sleep in glory, every one in his own house. But thou art cast forth away from thy sepulchre like an abominable branch, clothed with the slain, that are thrust through with the sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a dead body trodden under foot. Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, thou hast slain thy people; the seed of evil-doers shall not be named for ever.
Isaiah 14:4‭-‬14‭, ‬16‭-‬20

 

[kenmuldoon55]

¶“Behold, as for the impudent one, His soul is not right within him; But the righteous one will live by his faith. “Furthermore, wine betrays an arrogant man (Satan), So that he does not achieve his objective. He enlarges his appetite like Sheol, And he is like death, never satisfied. He also gathers to himself all the nations And collects to himself all the peoples. ¶“Will all of these not take up a song of ridicule against him, Even a saying and insinuations against him And say, ‘Woe to him who increases what is not his— For how long— And makes himself rich with debts!’ “Will your creditors not rise up suddenly, And those who collect from you awaken? Indeed, you will become plunder for them. “Since you have looted many nations, All the rest of the peoples will loot you— Because of human bloodshed and violence done to the land, To the town and all its inhabitants. “Woe to him who makes evil profit for his household, To put his nest on high, To be saved from the hand of catastrophe! “You have planned a shameful thing for your house By bringing many peoples to an end; So you are sinning against yourself.
Habakkuk 2:4‭-‬10

"Behold, you are wiser than Daniel; There is no secret that is a match for you! “By your wisdom and understanding You have acquired riches for yourself And have acquired gold and silver for your treasuries. “By your great wisdom, by your trade You have increased your riches, And your heart is haughty because of your riches— Therefore this is what the Lord God says: ‘Because you have made your heart Like the heart of God, Therefore, behold, I am going to bring strangers against you, The most ruthless of the nations. And they will draw their swords Against the beauty of your wisdom And profane your splendor. ‘They will bring you down to the pit, And you will die the death of those who are killed In the heart of the seas. ‘Will you still say, “I am a god,” In the presence of one who kills you, Though you are a mortal and not God, In the hands of those who wound you? “By the abundance of your trade You were internally filled with violence, And you sinned; Therefore I have cast you as profane From the mountain of God. And I have destroyed you, you covering cherub, From the midst of the stones of fire. “Your heart was haughty because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor. I threw you to the ground; I put you before kings, That they may see you. “By the multitude of your wrongdoings, In the unrighteousness of your trade You profaned your sanctuaries. Therefore I have brought fire from the midst of you; It has consumed you, And I have turned you to ashes on the earth In the eyes of all who see you." Ezekiel 28:3‭-‬9‭, ‬16‭-‬18

"Give the king(Jesus) Your judgments, God, And Your righteousness to the king’s son. May he judge Your people with righteousness And Your afflicted with justice. May he vindicate the afflicted of the people, Save the children of the needy, And crush the oppressor. May they fear You while the sun shines, And as long as the moon shines, throughout all generations. May he come down like rain upon the mown grass, Like showers that water the earth. May the righteous flourish in his days, As well as an abundance of peace, until the moon is no more. May he also rule from sea to sea, And from the Euphrates River to the ends of the earth. May the nomads of the desert bow before him, And his enemies lick the dust. And may all kings bow down before him, All nations serve him. May his name endure forever; May his name produce descendants as long as the sun shines; And may people wish blessings on themselves by him; May all nations call him blessed. Blessed be the Lord God, the God of Israel, Who alone works wonders. And blessed be His glorious name forever; And may the whole earth be filled with His glory. Amen and Amen. Psalms 72:1‭-‬2‭, ‬4‭-‬9‭, ‬11‭, ‬17‭-‬19

"And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever. Just as you saw that a stone was broken off from the mountain without hands, and that it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold, the great God has made known to the king what will take place in the future; so the dream is certain and its interpretation is trustworthy.” Daniel 2:44‭-‬45

Although God left Satan in the position of authority over the earth, for some reason He never permitted him to have a world wide organisation which would have been an imitation to the new world organisation under Jesus. However, he will be permitted to do that just before the Armaghedon starts in the form of the beast of the Revelation. Then then two opposing organisations will have a final battle and the bible makes it clear who wins.

"And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the entire world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty." Revelation 16:13‭-‬14

"The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast. These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of Lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful.”
Revelation 17:12‭-‬14

Thank God for only forty/two months though.

 

[The God Pill]

God never gave Satan authority over mankind some of God's subordinates that had been granted authority from God choose to deliver theirs to him.

 

[Truth_Seeker]

"And he led Him up and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, “I will give You all this domain and its glory, for it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I want. Therefore if You worship before me, it shall all be Yours.” Jesus replied to him, “It is written: ‘You shall worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.’ ”
Luke 4:5‭-‬8

"But indeed, for this reason I have allowed you to remain, in order to show you My power and in order to proclaim My name throughout the earth. Still you exalt yourself against My people by not letting them go." Exodus 9:16‭-‬17

"And the beast that I saw was like a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne, and great authority. they worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?”
Revelation 13:2‭, ‬4

 

[Yupyup_yup]

nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them."

This quote is very important - note who confirmed this

The reason why man can accomplish anything from God's standpoint is because He's made in his image

This is an amazing fact on how we are an unique, enviable, comparison to other creation around us

Over the course of thousands of years we're back to one language which is English

And look at the accomplishments that have happened over the last 100 years because of this:
- splitting the atom
- going to the moon (?)
- Satellites communications
- Decoding the human genome
- Crispr technologies
- CERN
- Global internet
- Even making gene altering mrna gene therapies - On a global scale
- Add advancements in global logistics
And lots more

When you look at the building projects of the past they're phenomenal they did things that we can't even do today With extreme accuracy

This is testimony to how complete God-made us

I've always been fascinated with this verse

For His will to be accomplished at that time he had to step in with the confusion of the languages


To me this also shows me that we are also at the time of the end

A point in time where He must intervene to save His people

Or else no one will be saved

It is an amazing thing to be a human and each human from the standpoint of God would be extremely valuable

Like a son or daughter is to a Loving and Faithful Father

 

[Patricia]

Years ago, I heard a rabbi elaborate on a slightly different angle. He was talking about the aspect of the use of bricks instead of stone. I wish I could remember everything he said because it was the first time the story really made sense to me.
But he said that when you build with stone, the stones are different shapes and sizes but when you make bricks you use a mold and all the bricks come out looking the same. He said the bricks represent the people. The "government" wanted to have all the people think alike, believe alike (the lies they told them to think and believe). That way they would be easy to control. Sound familiar? The bricks were held together with mortar which he said was the stuff that made life easier for city dwellers than for people living spread out far and wide.
In the city you didn't have to do everything yourself you could trade with others so much easier. The rabbi, somehow, wove materialism in with this but I don't recall how exactly, but that the mortar was the stuff that held the people together, the ease of their life and the abundance of material things.
Jehovah made us all different and unique. When we all have the complete truth from Him, then believing alike won't be bad. But this was the beginnings of Babylon, false religion, false gods, and wicked rulers.
As @Soul Sage said above, "Jehovah saw the importance of decentralizing the people so that corrupting influence would not fully succumb humanity"
The world seems to be trying to force everyone to think what they want us to think, and if we don't we'll be cancelled. And too, the GB is the same, think what we tell you to, no need to think for yourself.

 

[Soul Sage]

How much do you think the "national gods"/angel princes that later became corrupts dominion is related to the variables of geographic territory, language, and ethnicity. For example in Jubilees the Madai rejected their land of inheritance and settled in the middle east does the P of Madai retain influence over the geography or is it more tied to the allotted ethnic and/or language group.

Jehovah's blessing was upon them all to spread out and make tribes which later got built up enough to become nations. The stars and constellations was their navigation guide. Some ancient hieroglyphics showed that they knew about the solar system and use that as their guide to travel. I don't know enough information on why some would refuse inherited land but it was probably tied to language. How can you communicate to other tribes of men when a multitude of languages was still a relatively new thing? I don't think it was anything complicated. They just wanted to be around people that understood their language.