Will AI replace man's looking to God for answers?

[Jahrule]

Leading AI researcher Geoffrey Hinton, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize for machine leaning, says "World is not prepared for what's coming." Sounds a lot like something I've said countless times here.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

"What if I don't want to be plugged into anything full stop..." DUH! As long as you have a smart phone, or any other smart device you're plugged into the system and you're being tracked 24/7 whether the phone or other is on/or off. If you don't then you're invisible to the Spying. Still meta data can be just as effective in tracking someone's ID.

Exactly!! Can't waaaiitt till we can get rid of our phones and start living in the REAL world

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

I live in hope of artificial intelligence. Having none of my own it is my only hope of figuring out what the hell it is that I am doing here.

 

[kenmuldoon55]

According to this fellow, ai will one day allow for an eternal existence without the need for God.

Listen at 21:59-23:18

 

[Seventy6]

Exactly!! Can't waaaiitt till we can get rid of our phones and start living in the REAL world

What phones?

 

[Seventy6]

According to this fellow, ai will one day allow for an eternal existence without the need for God.

Listen at 21:59-23:18

This fellow is dreaming prehaps. Like Musk and his Mars thang;... it aint happening. Maybe in Jehovah's new system other possibilities will open to humans??

 

[kenmuldoon55]

True, but it’s kind of scary that their thinking has even wandered into that realm.

 

[Seventy6]

True, but it’s kind of scary that their thinking has even wandered into that realm.

Modern tech is moving quickly for sure. Sorry for going off topic somewhat specifically the 90s NASA technician was explaining the dangers of the Van Ellen? belt and how "we" would need to work out the dangers before exploring this part of space, which is about 25000 miles wide. Wait a minute didn't "we" traverse that part of space to and fro the moon?? Given the rate of tech advancement, 50 years later they abandoned moon exploration why? Because they can't do now with advanced computer tech what they claimed to have done 50 years ago with inferior tech. Yeah my money is on the moon landing is fake, keep in mind that it has been said that Russia/USSR was 30 years ahead of the U.S. in space adventure and they never came close to going to the moon. Go figure.

 

[Jahrule]

Modern tech is moving quickly for sure. Sorry for going off topic somewhat specifically the 90s NASA technician was explaining the dangers of the Van Ellen? belt and how "we" would need to work out the dangers before exploring this part of space, which is about 25000 miles wide. Wait a minute didn't "we" traverse that part of space to and fro the moon?? Given the rate of tech advancement, 50 years later they abandoned moon exploration why? Because they can't do now with advanced computer tech what they claimed to have done 50 years ago with inferior tech. Yeah my money is on the moon landing is fake, keep in mind that it has been said that Russia/USSR was 30 years ahead of the U.S. in space adventure and they never came close to going to the moon. Go figure.

Yes, Apollo missions did pass through the Van Allen radiation belts (not "Ellen" but close — easy mistake). The belts are areas of trapped radiation around Earth caused by our magnetic field. NASA knew about the belts back in the 1960s and planned the Apollo trajectories to go through the thinnest parts of the belts quickly, minimizing astronaut exposure. The exposure during the Apollo missions was calculated to be very low, about the equivalent of a few chest X-rays, not enough to cause radiation sickness or damage. As for why we stopped. It can be summed up with these issues: Cost, risks, politics, and priorities.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

Yes, Apollo missions did pass through the Van Allen radiation belts (not "Ellen" but close — easy mistake). The belts are areas of trapped radiation around Earth caused by our magnetic field. NASA knew about the belts back in the 1960s and planned the Apollo trajectories to go through the thinnest parts of the belts quickly, minimizing astronaut exposure. The exposure during the Apollo missions was calculated to be very low, about the equivalent of a few chest X-rays, not enough to cause radiation sickness or damage. As for why we stopped. It can be summed up with these issues: Cost, risks, politics, and priorities.

It’s unlikely to be true regarding the Van Allen belt. I appreciate AI suggests that they did, but the aluminium “shielding” on the spacecraft was simply too thin to inhibit catastrophic radiation, as it was also to protect the astronauts from over 200 degrees heat on the moon. But the most significant event that denies passage through Van Allen radiation was when nasa tried it using the much more robustly shielded space shuttle. I try not to deny the moon landing but have yet to be thoroughly convinced.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

It’s unlikely to be true regarding the Van Allen belt. I appreciate AI suggests that they did, but the aluminium “shielding” on the spacecraft was simply too thin to inhibit catastrophic radiation, as it was also to protect the astronauts from over 200 degrees heat on the moon. But the most significant event that denies passage through Van Allen radiation was when nasa tried it using the much more robustly shielded space shuttle. I try not to deny the moon landing but have yet to be thoroughly convinced.

You and me both Barney up until about 5yrs ago I honestly thought I was the only person who thought the moon landing etc are fakes and then come 2020 I found 1000's of others who thought the same, including other brothers and sisters! And the one thing they all have in common is that they also believe convid was a scam and they didn't get injected either, coincidence? I don't think so

 

[Seventy6]

I don't buy that thinnest crap, if NASA was able to navigate the belt in the 60s why in the 90s were they concerned about the dangers? Why they aren't doing it now? Its not about cost, since the U.S government has spent trillions on wars, since before the 60s to currently. Fraid they can't do it now because they don't have the capabilities, just like they did not have the tech capabilities in the 60s. Some footage that was never meant for public viewing. If they faked being halfway to the moon, why would we believe that they did not fake the entire mission/s? 5.18 into the video.

 

[Jahrule]

I don't buy that thinnest crap, if NASA was able to navigate the belt in the 60s why in the 90s were they concerned about the dangers? Why they aren't doing it now? Its not about cost, since the U.S government has spent trillions on wars, since before the 60s to currently. Fraid they can't do it now because they don't have the capabilities, just like they did not have the tech capabilities in the 60s. Some footage that was never meant for public viewing. If they faked being halfway to the moon, why would we believe that they did not fake the entire mission/s? 5.18 into the video.

This is exactly how every crackpot conspiracy gets started. Not saying you're a crackpot, nor am I suggesting all conspiracies are necessarily pseudo-intellectual hogwash. I'm just pointing out this is how they work. It's essentially like this, a bunch of people get together and just ask questions at each other. The questions mostly stems from not fully understanding all the variables involved, and they are never asked with the intention of understanding the answers. They are just asked in a vacuum as if the mere act of asking questions was sufficient. It's a lot like being in an airplane where some random dude exclaims: "You know, I find it hard to believe this plane stays in the air all by itself like this. Why is the cockpit locked? What are they hiding in there!" Reminds me a lot of the flat earth crowd. Answers to all their questions exist. They'll just never accept any of them, nor are they genuinely curious enough to find them.

 

[a believer]

Perhaps it's not so much as dumber... but rather, dependent. And once dependent... well, then plenty of things can go wrong— as evidenced by the brothers and sisters who have become dependent upon the claim of the Watchtower organization and its "Faithful and Discreet Slave" mantra, exchanging one's personal spiritual standing and responsibility before Jehovah over to an organization who makes all the decisions for that believer. As if, when it comes time for us to render an account to Jehovah, one will skate through by answering that they were simply doing what they were told, being obedient to the whims of men claiming they were appointed by Jehovah. (Cf. Romans 14:12; James 4:17)

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

This is exactly how every crackpot conspiracy gets started. Not saying you're a crackpot, nor am I suggesting all conspiracies are necessarily pseudo-intellectual hogwash. I'm just pointing out this is how they work. It's essentially like this, a bunch of people get together and just ask questions at each other. The questions mostly stems from not fully understanding all the variables involved, and they are never asked with the intention of understanding the answers. They are just asked in a vacuum as if the mere act of asking questions was sufficient. It's a lot like being in an airplane where some random dude exclaims: "You know, I find it hard to believe this plane stays in the air all by itself like this. Why is the cockpit locked? What are they hiding in there!" Reminds me a lot of the flat earth crowd. Answers to all their questions exist. They'll just never accept any of them, nor are they genuinely curious enough to find them.

Yeh but how do we know which conspiracies are the "crackpot" ones and which ones are true? In my experience, all the ones I learned about just 5yrs ago were considered "crackpot" at the time, even by Jah's org, yet every day, they are proving to be the true ones. The vast majority of friends and family who were in my life when I started studying the Bible called me and the Bible "crackpots" yet the more I studied the more I learned that the Bible is true. Research and the passage of time brings all things to light so we don't need to worry too much about these things, just enough to be aware that we've been lied to on so many things that it would be foolish to just blindly believe everything or to quickly disbelieve everything. One thing's for sure, Satan has used humans to go to very great lengths to hide the existence of a Creator, and to hide the Creator's purpose for us. Once we understand about the Garden of Eden and what happened there with the trees and Satan, and then a basic understanding of the Bible, history, Jehovah's purpose for mankind and where we are in the stream of time, the sheer and utter fakery we're surrounded by becomes glaringly obvious..

 

[Seventy6]

Perhaps it's not so much as dumber... but rather, dependent. And once dependent... well, then plenty of things can go wrong— as evidenced by the brothers and sisters who have become dependent upon the claim of the Watchtower organization and its "Faithful and Discreet Slave" mantra, exchanging one's personal spiritual standing and responsibility before Jehovah over to an organization who makes all the decisions for that believer. As if, when it comes time for us to render an account to Jehovah, one will skate through by answering that they were simply doing what they were told, being obedient to the whims of men claiming they were appointed by Jehovah. (Cf. Romans 14:12; James 4:17)

Ai will make you less intelligent or maybe less capable if you rely on it. If you don't use it....?...Anyway.

 

[a believer]

Ai will make you less intelligent or maybe less capable if you rely on it. If you don't use it....?...Anyway.

Interestingly, in the apostle Paul's epistle, Romans, he writes:

“Present your bodies a sacrifice living, holy, acceptable to God, a sacred service with your power of reason.” — Romans 12:1 New World Translation

This goes to the concerning observation I mentioned earlier, that, in a majority of cases, Jehovah's Witnesses, rather than developing their power of reason, have the overwhelmingly disturbing tendency to instead turn to and / or look up what the Watchtower organization's "Faithful and Discreet Slave" has to say on this matter or that. In effect, becoming dependent on a form of AI.

—Timothy,
a believer.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

When I looked into the excuse that the Apollo rockets when through the Van Allen belt it became clear that the materials used in the construct of the spacecraft were insufficient to protect individuals against harmful radiation which are powerful enough to cause cancers and other problems especially within the brain. The information given on radiation dosage is in the hundreds of Milliseverts compared with the 0.1 milliseverts (otherwise known as ironising radiation). What nasa did not answer at the time - going back to the early 1970s was that the radiation in the Van Allen belts (there are three) cannot be predicted and thus whatever protection one has cannot be relied upon. Considering that a single sunspot had the potential to knock out all our satellites, one needs to think that the only protection that the astronauts had was a construct of aluminium made in hexagons for strength and not for radiation protection. Lead would have had some protection. Regardless the heat on the moon at over 260 F whether inside or outside the spacecraft would not be feasible for anyone to withstand. If nasa would be straightforward with explanations there would not be doubt, but the choose to hide any relevant info support, so one can only make assumptions. Interesting though that no one else has gone up there yet 55 years later.

 

[Jahrule]

It’s unlikely to be true regarding the Van Allen belt.

When I looked into the excuse that the Apollo rockets when through the Van Allen belt it became clear that the materials used in the construct of the spacecraft were insufficient to protect individuals against harmful radiation which are powerful enough to cause cancers...

What makes you think you understand this stuff more than the people who dedicated decades of combined experience in fields like chemistry, physics, etc?

Yeh but how do we know which conspiracies are the "crackpot" ones and which ones are true? In my experience, all the ones I learned about just 5yrs ago were considered "crackpot" at the time, even by Jah's org, yet every day, they are proving to be the true ones. The vast majority of friends and family who were in my life when I started studying the Bible called me and the Bible "crackpots" yet the more I studied the more I learned that the Bible is true. Research and the passage of time brings all things to light so we don't need to worry too much about these things, just enough to be aware that we've been lied to on so many things that it would be foolish to just blindly believe everything or to quickly disbelieve everything. One thing's for sure, Satan has used humans to go to very great lengths to hide the existence of a Creator, and to hide the Creator's purpose for us. Once we understand about the Garden of Eden and what happened there with the trees and Satan, and then a basic understanding of the Bible, history, Jehovah's purpose for mankind and where we are in the stream of time, the sheer and utter fakery we're surrounded by becomes glaringly obvious..

Crackpot conspiracies can be easily discerned. For example, the South Korean lunar probe Danuri, which launched in 2022 has evidence of the Apollo mission. It was able to capture images of the Apollo 11 and Apollo 17 landing sites on the moon in 2023, providing additional evidence for the historic moon landings.

But here's what crackpot conspiracies do. They'll just reject it, claiming they're all in on the conspiracy. It's pull your eyebrows out stupid how much people that believe the moon landing was fake have to ignore.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Interestingly, in the apostle Paul's epistle, Romans, he writes:

“Present your bodies a sacrifice living, holy, acceptable to God, a sacred service with your power of reason.” — Romans 12:1 New World Translation

This goes to the concerning observation I mentioned earlier, that, in a majority of cases, Jehovah's Witnesses, rather than developing their power of reason, have the overwhelmingly disturbing tendency to instead turn to and / or look up what the Watchtower organization's "Faithful and Discreet Slave" has to say on this matter or that. In effect, becoming dependent on a form of AI.

—Timothy,
a believer.

It's good to do both, research what the Watchtower says about things and also what the Bible says on the matter too. When I first read that scripture about presenting our bodies as a sacrifice to Jehovah and holy I was able to reason that all the drugs I was taking and tobacco I was smoking, was wrong. That same scripture also taught me that big pharma drugs should only be ingested as a last resort or in an emergency. And also that drinking too much alcohol is bad for our bodies too and also, stuffing our faces with loadsa doughnuts etc. Fast forward to 2020/21 and "Jehovah God" is telling us through the GB to inject ourselves, several times (I know brothers and sisters that are on their 9th ) with something that we have no idea what it is. So Jehovah has "changed" even though the Bible says he doesn't? I'll take what the Bible says over what men say all day long..

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

What makes you think you understand this stuff more than the people who dedicated decades of combined experience in fields like chemistry, physics, etc?

Crackpot conspiracies can be easily discerned. For example, the South Korean lunar probe Danuri, which launched in 2022 has evidence of the Apollo mission. It was able to capture images of the Apollo 11 and Apollo 17 landing sites on the moon in 2023, providing additional evidence for the historic moon landings.

But here's what crackpot conspiracies do. They'll just reject it, claiming they're all in on the conspiracy. It's pull your eyebrows out stupid how much people that believe the moon landing was fake have to ignore.

What makes you think you understand this stuff more than the people who dedicated decades of combined experience in fields like chemistry, physics, etc?
Without seeming to know more than the scientists who believe and teach the evolution theory, THAT is one conspiracy I have never, and will never believe. But, if I could have a pound for every person who's said to me "so you think you know more than the SCIENTISTS?" I'd be retired living the dream in the Seychelles by now

 

[a believer]

...stuffing our faces with loadsa doughnuts

Whoaaaaaa! You had me right up until this. I like to keep myself humble with at least ONE vice.

--Timothy

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

What makes you think you understand this stuff more than the people who dedicated decades of combined experience in fields like chemistry, physics, etc?

Crackpot conspiracies can be easily discerned. For example, the South Korean lunar probe Danuri, which launched in 2022 has evidence of the Apollo mission. It was able to capture images of the Apollo 11 and Apollo 17 landing sites on the moon in 2023, providing additional evidence for the historic moon landings.

But here's what crackpot conspiracies do. They'll just reject it, claiming they're all in on the conspiracy. It's pull your eyebrows out stupid how much people that believe the moon landing was fake have to ignore.

What makes you think you understand this stuff more than the people who dedicated decades of combined experience in fields like chemistry, physics, etc?
Without seeming to know more than the scientists who believe and teach the evolution theory, THAT is one conspiracy I have never, and will never believe. But, if I could have a pound for every person who's said to me "so you think you know more than the SCIENTISTS?" I'd be retired living the dream in the Seychelles by now

Whoaaaaaa! You had me right up until this. I like to keep myself humble with at least ONE vice.

--Timothy

Yep! I keep myself humble by having 4 glasses of wine instead of 3

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

What makes you think you understand this stuff more than the people who dedicated decades of combined experience in fields like chemistry, physics, etc?

Crackpot conspiracies can be easily discerned. For example, the South Korean lunar probe Danuri, which launched in 2022 has evidence of the Apollo mission. It was able to capture images of the Apollo 11 and Apollo 17 landing sites on the moon in 2023, providing additional evidence for the historic moon landings.

But here's what crackpot conspiracies do. They'll just reject it, claiming they're all in on the conspiracy. It's pull your eyebrows out stupid how much people that believe the moon landing was fake have to ignore.

Because I’ve studied theoretical physics since before you were born Jahrule along with other sciences. The great advantage of learning is that it allows one to reason independently rather than trust others for the truth of the matter. NASA is a government run agency - the same government that issued the vaccinations and has waged war over the last century, invited millions of refugees into the country and persecuted its own people, while slaughtering Palestine and other nations along with their Israeli friends. Note that I did not rule out a landing, but simply questioned it. I obviously don’t understand rocketry and landing on the moon, but if you pop into your local hospital and ask the radiographer why he wears protective clothing especially over his reproductive organs and then multiply that by the extreme radiation in the van Allen belt and which the said astronauts spent hours flying through - not just a second for an x-Ray - then it may give you pause for thought. No other country has gone to the moon in the past 55 years either - not even China - and China is way ahead of nasa in high tech as well. As I said - I don’t claim to know whether nasa landed on the moon with less technology than you have in your watch, I just think it highly unlikely. I will gladly retract if proved wrong. …..and pull my eyebrows out!

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Because I’ve studied theoretical physics since before you were born Jahrule along with other sciences. The great advantage of learning is that it allows one to reason independently rather than trust others for the truth of the matter. NASA is a government run agency - the same government that issued the vaccinations and has waged war over the last century, invited millions of refugees into the country and persecuted its own people, while slaughtering Palestine and other nations along with their Israeli friends. Note that I did not rule out a landing, but simply questioned it. I obviously don’t understand rocketry and landing on the moon, but if you pop into your local hospital and ask the radiographer why he wears protective clothing especially over his reproductive organs and then multiply that by the extreme radiation in the van Allen belt and which the said astronauts spent hours flying through - not just a second for an x-Ray - then it may give you pause for thought. No other country has gone to the moon in the past 55 years either - not even China - and China is way ahead of nasa in high tech as well. As I said - I don’t claim to know whether nasa landed on the moon with less technology than you have in your watch, I just think it highly unlikely. I will gladly retract if proved wrong. …..and pull my eyebrows out!

Hope you pull your eyebrows out on camera please Barney