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Will AI replace man's looking to God for answers?

Because I’ve studied theoretical physics since before you were born Jahrule along with other sciences. 🤣 The great advantage of learning is that it allows one to reason independently rather than trust others for the truth of the matter. NASA is a government run agency - the same government that issued the vaccinations and has waged war over the last century, invited millions of refugees into the country and persecuted its own people, while slaughtering Palestine and other nations along with their Israeli friends. Note that I did not rule out a landing, but simply questioned it. I obviously don’t understand rocketry and landing on the moon, but if you pop into your local hospital and ask the radiographer why he wears protective clothing especially over his reproductive organs and then multiply that by the extreme radiation in the van Allen belt and which the said astronauts spent hours flying through - not just a second for an x-Ray - then it may give you pause for thought. No other country has gone to the moon in the past 55 years either - not even China - and China is way ahead of nasa in high tech as well. As I said - I don’t claim to know whether nasa landed on the moon with less technology than you have in your watch, I just think it highly unlikely. I will gladly retract if proved wrong. 🤣🤣…..and pull my eyebrows out!
You might know a little, but I believe you are overestimating your expertise if you are convinced simply talking to a radiologist about the dangers of x-rays is enough to make you an expert in the protective covering needed for the Van Allen belt.

Furthermore, as I have explained it is not all consistent throughout the Van Allen belt. Some areas are more dangerous than others.

I mean this with all due respect. A real expert in these fields understand how little they know. We live in an age everybody thinks they are experts because they've read a few books or taken some classes at community college, or worse, watched a few internet videos, or know how to use Google. But if you've written any peer review journals that has been critiqued by other experts in the field I would very much love to read them.
 
What makes you think you understand this stuff more than the people who dedicated decades of combined experience in fields like chemistry, physics, etc?
Without seeming to know more than the scientists who believe and teach the evolution theory, THAT is one conspiracy I have never, and will never believe. But, if I could have a pound for every person who's said to me "so you think you know more than the SCIENTISTS?" I'd be retired living the dream in the Seychelles by now 😄💕
Unlike other armchair speculators here, all I have done is state what backed up by actual evidence.

There is a plethora of evidence that we've landed on the moon. The other side has absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the moon landing was fake, other than questions. The argument is essentially an argument from incredulity. Simply asking questions doesn't make you smart if you're not willing to find the answers.
 
Unlike other armchair speculators here, all I have done is state what backed up by actual evidence.

There is a plethora of evidence that we've landed on the moon. The other side has absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the moon landing was fake, other than questions. The argument is essentially an argument from incredulity. Simply asking questions doesn't make you smart if you're not willing to find the answers.
Apparently there's a plethora of evidence that we evolved from apes or little creatures in a pond too. I've yet to check out that evidence so I'm a bit of a hypocrite really and I was constantly reminded of that fact on the door to door work 😕
 
You might know a little, but I believe you are overestimating your expertise if you are convinced simply talking to a radiologist about the dangers of x-rays is enough to make you an expert in the protective covering needed for the Van Allen belt.

Furthermore, as I have explained it is not all consistent throughout the Van Allen belt. Some areas are more dangerous than others.

I mean this with all due respect. A real expert in these fields understand how little they know. We live in an age everybody thinks they are experts because they've read a few books or taken some classes at community college, or worse, watched a few internet videos, or know how to use Google. But if you've written any peer review journals that has been critiqued by other experts in the field I would very much love to read them.
I don’t claim any special knowledge Jahrule and I haven’t spoken to a radiologist. I said that if you asked a radiologist you may get a comparison on radiation absorption. I’m sorry if I have offended you somehow, but you did question my right to comment on the matter and I simply told you that I have made a study of the subject and still am active in that area today, as I am in other subjects that interest me. Likewise, I said I do not discount a landing, but think it very unlikely. If you wish to argue the issue from the scientific evidence then I suggest that you pm me with your references I’ll do my best to answer them, but here is not the place. 👍
 
Apparently there's a plethora of evidence that we evolved from apes or little creatures in a pond too. I've yet to check out that evidence so I'm a bit of a hypocrite really and I was constantly reminded of that fact on the door to door work 😕
I believe in evolution as far as the diversity of species is concerned. I just don't believe humans evolved naturally. I believe humans were a rather recent deliberate creation.

The world, animals, trees, vegetation all that stuff I believe existed for millions/ billions of years. Thats something I could be wrong about but that's just what the evidence suggests. However it's much easier to prove something that happened in 1969 than hundreds of millions of years ago. I have more to say but I'm on my way home from work.

I don’t claim any special knowledge Jahrule and I haven’t spoken to a radiologist. I said that if you asked a radiologist you may get a comparison on radiation absorption. I’m sorry if I have offended you somehow, but you did question my right to comment on the matter and I simply told you that I have made a study of the subject and still am active in that area today, as I am in other subjects that interest me. Likewise, I said I do not discount a landing, but think it very unlikely. If you wish to argue the issue from the scientific evidence then I suggest that you pm me with your references I’ll do my best to answer them, but here is not the place. 👍
Thanks, Barnaby. I'm not offended. I'm just passionate about this stuff. I love science and I respect the people that do it. If I had my life to do over again I'd have become some type of scientist. Getting paid to do research was my dream.
 
Yeh but how do we know which conspiracies are the "crackpot" ones and which ones are true? In my experience, all the ones I learned about just 5yrs ago were considered "crackpot" at the time, even by Jah's org, yet every day, they are proving to be the true ones. The vast majority of friends and family who were in my life when I started studying the Bible called me and the Bible "crackpots" yet the more I studied the more I learned that the Bible is true. Research and the passage of time brings all things to light so we don't need to worry too much about these things, just enough to be aware that we've been lied to on so many things that it would be foolish to just blindly believe everything or to quickly disbelieve everything. One thing's for sure, Satan has used humans to go to very great lengths to hide the existence of a Creator, and to hide the Creator's purpose for us. Once we understand about the Garden of Eden and what happened there with the trees and Satan, and then a basic understanding of the Bible, history, Jehovah's purpose for mankind and where we are in the stream of time, the sheer and utter fakery we're surrounded by becomes glaringly obvious..
You have a point! Another issue that points to the issue of radiation was the placing of water above the earth . An excellent shield and also a great leveller to the humidity upon the earth making the earth productive in every area if not entirely inhabitable. But those places that were not habitable would still able to contribute to the organic stability of the earth - unless one wants to be left in the dark for six months of the year that is!!!
 
there's a plethora of evidence that we evolved from apes

I'm always amused by that one, considering I wouldn't call the present state of Man any sort of evolution, given the historical record of Man doing things to his fellow Man that would never even cross an ape's mind.

One of the best-scripted moments I will always remember, is actually from the original Planet of the Apes, when Cornelius (played by the memorable Roddy McDowell) reads from one of the sacred scrolls of the apes toward the end of the movie:

"Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death."

we evolved from ... little creatures in a pond

Well... technically, yes, we all do. Not there's any need to get graphic about that step in the reproductive process, I'm sure.

But what absolutely befuddles my puny, underutilized brain is how Jehovah created a way for a mere strand of DNA from both the mother and the father to unite, bond, and become a living, breathing, thinking being. Two cells into gazillions, and every single cell— without a brain— knowing where it needs to go to carry out its function, forming structures and organs and so much more.

Man can pat himself on his back for figuring out how to take a computer that requires an entire room and eventually design it until it becomes cellphones, tablets, a watch we wear on our wrist. . . but what does that compare with how our Creator populated an entire planet through a single Man and his wife, Eve? Or, that whole process as two cells unite to form the embryo that will become a person, even the ones who grow up to convince themselves they are descended from apes and neanderthal human-like creatures.

—Timothy,
a believer.
 
Interestingly, in the apostle Paul's epistle, Romans, he writes:

“Present your bodies a sacrifice living, holy, acceptable to God, a sacred service with your power of reason.” — Romans 12:1 New World Translation

This goes to the concerning observation I mentioned earlier, that, in a majority of cases, Jehovah's Witnesses, rather than developing their power of reason, have the overwhelmingly disturbing tendency to instead turn to and / or look up what the Watchtower organization's "Faithful and Discreet Slave" has to say on this matter or that. In effect, becoming dependent on a form of AI.

—Timothy,
a believer.

Fair enough but many JWs are genuinely pursuing truth and still think that the G/B is a reliable source of the "Truth" which they are to a point. I suspect no other org on the planet comes close to the W/T in turning peoples attention to the "Truth". If you want to reason that loyalty to the W/T is the same or similar to relying on or become dependent on AI,? thats your call. I don't see it that way but. It has been said on this forum that we have simply ditched one idol for another, or words similar.
 
I'm always amused by that one, considering I wouldn't call the present state of Man any sort of evolution, given the historical record of Man doing things to his fellow Man that would never even cross an ape's mind.

One of the best-scripted moments I will always remember, is actually from the original Planet of the Apes, when Cornelius (played by the memorable Roddy McDowell) reads from one of the sacred scrolls of the apes toward the end of the movie:

"Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death."



Well... technically, yes, we all do. Not there's any need to get graphic about that step in the reproductive process, I'm sure.

But what absolutely befuddles my puny, underutilized brain is how Jehovah created a way for a mere strand of DNA from both the mother and the father to unite, bond, and become a living, breathing, thinking being. Two cells into gazillions, and every single cell— without a brain— knowing where it needs to go to carry out its function, forming structures and organs and so much more.

Man can pat himself on his back for figuring out how to take a computer that requires an entire room and eventually design it until it becomes cellphones, tablets, a watch we wear on our wrist. . . but what does that compare with how our Creator populated an entire planet through a single Man and his wife, Eve? Or, that whole process as two cells unite to form the embryo that will become a person, even the ones who grow up to convince themselves they are descended from apes and neanderthal human-like creatures.

—Timothy,
a believer.
I've had this "argument" sooooo many times over the years, I had it just a few days ago from my very stubborn dad (for the 100th time 🙄) it was on the day the Pope died and he was taking the micky out of all the millions of worshippers the Pope had and how ridiculous any kind of worship is and that it's all made up and man made and there's no such thing as God. He then asked me what I thought about the subject (knowing full well I've been a witness for 40yrs 🙄) and I said "dad, everything on this planet including human beings is so wonderfully made that ever since I was a little kid I've believed in a creator and no-one could ever convince me otherwise. For the first time ever (probably because he's almost at deaths door) he just replied with "hmm.." instead of mocking me as usual.
 
I believe in evolution as far as the diversity of species is concerned. I just don't believe humans evolved naturally. I believe humans were a rather recent deliberate creation.

The world, animals, trees, vegetation all that stuff I believe existed for millions/ billions of years. Thats something I could be wrong about but that's just what the evidence suggests. However it's much easier to prove something that happened in 1969 than hundreds of millions of years ago. I have more to say but I'm on my way home from work.


Thanks, Barnaby. I'm not offended. I'm just passionate about this stuff. I love science and I respect the people that do it. If I had my life to do over again I'd have become some type of scientist. Getting paid to do research was my dream.
You believe humans are a recent and deliberate creation? Well, that's one thing we have in common at least!
 
You believe humans are a recent and deliberate creation? Well, that's one thing we have in common at least!
It's not something I'm dogmatic about. I would just find it funny if both sides were wrong and right at the same time. People always see it as a binary issue. Either evolution or God. I am convinced there will be a mix of the two. Perhaps God simply poofed everything into existence over tea one day, or maybe creation took a lot longer. People pigeonhole their views into these neat little boxes. Humans have ridiculous egos. We've constructed reality around ourselves. The sun revolves around us. We're the center of the universe. Yet time and again the real answers always end up being infinitely more amazing than we suppose. That's not going to stop. Both sides are going to be wrong, while at the same time, both sides will at least partially be right. Just like economics. Economics will exist in some form in the new world, but I highly doubt it will be capitalist, but it's not going to be socialist, or communist either, despite having similarities. It may even be something vastly different than anything we're ever seen.
 
It's not something I'm dogmatic about. I would just find it funny if both sides were wrong and right at the same time. People always see it as a binary issue. Either evolution or God. I am convinced there will be a mix of the two. Perhaps God simply poofed everything into existence over tea one day, or maybe creation took a lot longer. People pigeonhole their views into these neat little boxes. Humans have ridiculous egos. We've constructed reality around ourselves. The sun revolves around us. We're the center of the universe. Yet time and again the real answers always end up being infinitely more amazing than we suppose. That's not going to stop. Both sides are going to be wrong, while at the same time, both sides will at least partially be right. Just like economics. Economics will exist in some form in the new world, but I highly doubt it will be capitalist, but it's not going to be socialist, or communist either, despite having similarities. It may even be something vastly different than anything we're ever seen.
According to the evidence under our feet, each type of animal came into existence as a whole creature, the animals around us today are exactly the same as their original parents. Whether Jehovah created the planet and all things nature, quickly or slowly doesn't really make any difference to anything because Jehovah doesn't "count" time. Us humans make things quickly or slowly because we are prisoners of time. As for some form of economics existing in some shape or form in God's new world, all I can say is there better not be or I for one shan't be getting involved with it one iota!! I just want to help my fellow humans any way I can, without expecting any kind of payment. 👍😍
 
I suspect no other org on the planet comes close to the W/T in turning peoples attention to the "Truth".

God uses whomever it pleases Him to carry out His Will, as the prophet John himself pointed out: "Don’t just say to each other, ‘We’re safe, for we are descendants of Abraham.’ That means nothing, for I tell you, God can create children of Abraham from these very stones." — Matthew 3:9 New Living Translation

The rest is details. And people love to debate details, don't they?

As made abundantly clear from the scriptural record, the Pharisees were so utterly convinced they were the appointed leaders of the people Jehovah was using at that time to carry out His Purpose that they couldn't even entertain the possibility they were yesterday's news. It was their insistence, to be fair here, that ultimately led to the utter destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem. That level of pompous stupidity and unbridled arrogance was dealt with, firm and fair, by Jehovah. It isn't like He didn't warn them. Yet every messenger sent to them to warn them was killed by these men. So, Jehovah roused something mean and terrible that brought an end not only to their cherished Temple and Jerusalem, but that multitude that had gone up to Jerusalem for the Passover festival— which happened to be one of three festivals that were required even of those living far off. So everyone was to be there.

And the flood of destruction came.

"I will make justice the measuring line and righteousness the mason’s level.” Hail will sweep away the false refuge, and water will flood your hiding place. Your covenant with Death will be dissolved, and your agreement with Sheol will not last. When the overwhelming catastrophe passes through, you will be trampled... Only terror will cause you to understand the message. — Isaiah 28:17-18, 19b Holman Christian Standard Bible

Jehovah closed the door, evidenced by the second and final siege (the initial siege was pended due to Roman politics, which allowed for anyone still inside Jerusalem to get out of Dodge, including the straggling Jewish Christians. Last-minuters. I don't mind speculating that maybe there were also some hardcore Jewish Christians who happened to be there during the first siege, trying to convince anyone who would listen to the message that would save their life. Still speculating, but I would think that they would have known when the initial siege ended that the end had arrived for Jerusalem and the Temple, and they left. There's tradition out there that they went to Pella, but that's a less important detail than that they left.).

Even so: A great many souls met their end when the Romans came back. Bad, bad times were had by all inside those walls as the Romans just waited outside, and cut down anyone who tried leaving.

That's how far the delusional conviction benefited those Pharisees who fancied themselves men appointed over the people whom Jehovah was then carrying out His Purpose. And, unfortunately, they took a great many people, sincere or not, down with them in their arrogance.

—Timothy,
a believer.
 
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God uses whomever it pleases Him to carry out His Will, as the prophet John himself pointed out: "Don’t just say to each other, ‘We’re safe, for we are descendants of Abraham.’ That means nothing, for I tell you, God can create children of Abraham from these very stones." — Matthew 3:9 New Living Translation

The rest is details. And people love to debate details, don't they?

As made abundantly clear from the scriptural record, the Pharisees were so utterly convinced they were the appointed leaders of the people Jehovah was using at that time to carry out His Purpose that they couldn't even entertain the possibility they were yesterday's news. It was their insistence, to be fair here, that ultimately led to the utter destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem. That level of pompous stupidity and unbridled arrogance was dealt with, firm and fair, by Jehovah. It isn't like He didn't warn them. Yet every messenger sent to them to warn them was killed by these men. So, Jehovah roused something mean and terrible that brought an end not only to their cherished Temple and Jerusalem, but that multitude that had gone up to Jerusalem for the Passover festival— which happened to be one of three festivals that were required even of those living far off. So everyone was to be there.

And the flood of destruction came.

"I will make justice the measuring line and righteousness the mason’s level.” Hail will sweep away the false refuge, and water will flood your hiding place. Your covenant with Death will be dissolved, and your agreement with Sheol will not last. When the overwhelming catastrophe passes through, you will be trampled... Only terror will cause you to understand the message. — Isaiah 28:17-18, 19b Holman Christian Standard Bible

Jehovah closed the door, evidenced by the second and final siege (the initial siege was pended due to Roman politics, which allowed for anyone still inside Jerusalem to get out of Dodge, including the straggling Jewish Christians. Last-minuters. I don't mind speculating that maybe there were also some hardcore Jewish Christians who happened to be there during the first siege, trying to convince anyone who would listen to the message that would save their life. Still speculating, but I would think that they would have known when the initial siege ended that the end had arrived for Jerusalem and the Temple, and they left. There's tradition out there that they went to Pella, but that's a less important detail than that they left.).

Even so: A great many souls met their end when the Romans came back. Bad, bad times were had by all inside those walls as the Romans just waited outside, and cut down anyone who tried leaving.

That's how far the delusional conviction benefited those Pharisees who fancied themselves men appointed over the people whom Jehovah was then carrying out His Purpose. And, unfortunately, they took a great many people, sincere or not, down with them in their arrogance.

—Timothy,
a believer.
"God can create children of Abraham from these very stones" He can indeed :love:
 
According to the evidence under our feet, each type of animal came into existence as a whole creature, the animals around us today are exactly the same as their original parents. Whether Jehovah created the planet and all things nature, quickly or slowly doesn't really make any difference to anything because Jehovah doesn't "count" time. Us humans make things quickly or slowly because we are prisoners of time. As for some form of economics existing in some shape or form in God's new world, all I can say is there better not be or I for one shan't be getting involved with it one iota!! I just want to help my fellow humans any way I can, without expecting any kind of payment. 👍😍
Exactly so. Evolution is not possible. No one can offer an irrefutable explanation as to how male and female would evolve in cooperation with each other. Why, even today is takes a “Supreme Court of law” to define what a female is and if anyone were foolish enough today to stand up and say women came about by chance, they would be imprisoned and there would be riots in the street. No! One must have surgery to become a woman in evolutionary terms!!

Besides which, though the components of the body are found in everyday chemicals found in the earth, they cannot produce life. Life is a self perpetuating entity and its source of entity is unknown except to Jehovah but it is separate from the body but imparts its generative force to flesh, as it does in spirit form too. Gen 2. 7. “Then the Lord God formed the man out of dust from the ground and - breathed life into his nostrils ….”. Remarkably, the sense of what happens is exclusive to each sex and though experiencing the the same emotive reasoning, does so according to their sexual identity. Thus reflecting what we call the “attributes” of Jehovah exclusively to our purpose. These things cannot evolve, as they are not learnt behaviours but innate within us and respond only to our given purpose, without which, we would have no purpose. As Adam said on meeting Eve: “This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh…”. In other words, everything he was not, but presented as a compliment of, to create one flesh - a unity of mind, a complete perspective in perception and reasoning. Man and woman are not opposites, but part of each other. One cannot evolve a perception of something that does not exist. Our Supreme Court does not understand that yet, but they are on the right track! 🤣
 
According to the evidence under our feet, each type of animal came into existence as a whole creature, the animals around us today are exactly the same as their original parents. Whether Jehovah created the planet and all things nature, quickly or slowly doesn't really make any difference to anything because Jehovah doesn't "count" time. Us humans make things quickly or slowly because we are prisoners of time. As for some form of economics existing in some shape or form in God's new world, all I can say is there better not be or I for one shan't be getting involved with it one iota!! I just want to help my fellow humans any way I can, without expecting any kind of payment. 👍😍
According to the evidence under our feet, each type of animal came into existence as a whole creature, the animals around us today are exactly the same as their original parents. Whether Jehovah created the planet and all things nature, quickly or slowly doesn't really make any difference to anything because Jehovah doesn't "count" time. Us humans make things quickly or slowly because we are prisoners of time. As for some form of economics existing in some shape or form in God's new world, all I can say is there better not be or I for one shan't be getting involved with it one iota!! I just want to help my fellow humans any way I can, without expecting any kind of payment. 👍😍
Sounds like something a bunch of monkeys would say. I'm just playin'. You guys know I love you.
 
If you want to reason that loyalty to the W/T is the same or similar to relying on or become dependent on AI,? thats your call. I don't see it that way...

The first century Jews were loyal to the Temple and the manner of organized worship that Jehovah had used up to that point, and where did the majority of them find their end for their loyalty?

—Timothy,
a believer.
 
The first century Jews were loyal to the Temple and the manner of organized worship that Jehovah had used up to that point, and where did the majority of them find their end for their loyalty?

—Timothy,
a believer.
Exactly Timothy, but we're not allowed to bring that subject up anymore..
 
God uses whomever it pleases Him to carry out His Will, as the prophet John himself pointed out: "Don’t just say to each other, ‘We’re safe, for we are descendants of Abraham.’ That means nothing, for I tell you, God can create children of Abraham from these very stones." — Matthew 3:9 New Living Translation

The rest is details. And people love to debate details, don't they?

As made abundantly clear from the scriptural record, the Pharisees were so utterly convinced they were the appointed leaders of the people Jehovah was using at that time to carry out His Purpose that they couldn't even entertain the possibility they were yesterday's news. It was their insistence, to be fair here, that ultimately led to the utter destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem. That level of pompous stupidity and unbridled arrogance was dealt with, firm and fair, by Jehovah. It isn't like He didn't warn them. Yet every messenger sent to them to warn them was killed by these men. So, Jehovah roused something mean and terrible that brought an end not only to their cherished Temple and Jerusalem, but that multitude that had gone up to Jerusalem for the Passover festival— which happened to be one of three festivals that were required even of those living far off. So everyone was to be there.

And the flood of destruction came.

"I will make justice the measuring line and righteousness the mason’s level.” Hail will sweep away the false refuge, and water will flood your hiding place. Your covenant with Death will be dissolved, and your agreement with Sheol will not last. When the overwhelming catastrophe passes through, you will be trampled... Only terror will cause you to understand the message. — Isaiah 28:17-18, 19b Holman Christian Standard Bible

Jehovah closed the door, evidenced by the second and final siege (the initial siege was pended due to Roman politics, which allowed for anyone still inside Jerusalem to get out of Dodge, including the straggling Jewish Christians. Last-minuters. I don't mind speculating that maybe there were also some hardcore Jewish Christians who happened to be there during the first siege, trying to convince anyone who would listen to the message that would save their life. Still speculating, but I would think that they would have known when the initial siege ended that the end had arrived for Jerusalem and the Temple, and they left. There's tradition out there that they went to Pella, but that's a less important detail than that they left.).

Even so: A great many souls met their end when the Romans came back. Bad, bad times were had by all inside those walls as the Romans just waited outside, and cut down anyone who tried leaving.

That's how far the delusional conviction benefited those Pharisees who fancied themselves men appointed over the people whom Jehovah was then carrying out His Purpose. And, unfortunately, they took a great many people, sincere or not, down with them in their arrogance.

—Timothy,
a believer.

Ok so what does all of this have to do with the fact that Jehovah has used the W/T more so in modern times? Granted someone had to step in when literal Israel was made redundant, and when the Apostles died out. Name any other org as a spearhead for "Truth" in modern times?
 
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