Would you like to be anointed?

JulioG said:
The truth is that I would like an eternal earthly life... but I hope that guided excursions to heaven are also carried out from time to time 😁
Click to expand...
I think it's more likely that angels will visit Earth, although Jehovah may allow space travel, and in that way humans could experience 'heaven'.
 
I wanted to live forever here on the earth, since I was 8 yrs old. My hope hasn't changed. Just need to do my best to catch the bus.
 
JulioG said:
The truth is that I would like an eternal earthly life... but I hope that guided excursions to heaven are also carried out from time to time 😁
Click to expand...
Hard to imagine that humans will be going on tours to heaven. But you never can tell, we haven't a clue as to the extent of what Jehovah can do?
 
JulioG said:
@Joel I really don't understand your question...😅
Click to expand...
"Jacob departed from Beʹer-sheʹba and kept going toward Haʹran. 11 In time he came to a place and prepared to spend the night there because the sun had set. So he took one of the stones of that place and set it to rest his head on and lay down there. 12 Then he had a dream, and look! there was a stairway set on the earth, and its top reached up to the heavens; and there were God’s angels ascending and descending on it. 13 And look! there was Jehovah stationed above it, and he said:" - Genesis 28:10-13. Angels served Jesus food after he did not eat for 40 days...and Jesus also said: "See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I tell you that their angels in heaven always look upon the face of my Father who is in heaven..." Matthew 18:10....
 
a watcher said:
Jehovah INVITES people to become anointed. I guess you could say No, although I don't know anyone who's done that. I wonder if Jehovah would take No for an answer and allow someone to remain one of the other sheep?
Click to expand...
invitation is not imposition...that would be going against his own law of free will...otherwise he would not inspire apostle Paul to write to the anointed: "Make sure of all things..." - 1. Thessalonians 5:21.
 
Much of what has been written about anointed in both 2016 WT (both study articles in Jan) and in 2020 (again both study articles in Jan) I personally find repugnant! Consider this paragraph 15 from January 2016 pp. 17-21: "Perhaps you are wondering if you have received this wonderful invitation. If you think that you might have, ponder some important questions. Do you feel that you have more than average zeal in the ministry? Are you a keen student of God’s Word who loves to delve into “the deep things of God”? (1 Cor. 2:10) Have you seen Jehovah’s special blessing on your ministry? Do you have a burning desire to do Jehovah’s will? Do you have a deep inner feeling of responsibility to help others spiritually? Have you seen proof that Jehovah has personally intervened in your life? If you answer these questions with a resounding yes, does this mean that you now have the heavenly calling? No, it does not. Why not? Because these are not unique feelings experienced only by those who have the heavenly calling. Jehovah’s spirit works with equal force in those who have the hope of living forever on earth. In fact, if you are wondering whether you have received the heavenly calling, that would in itself indicate that you have not received it. Those called by Jehovah do not wonder whether they have been invited or not! They know!
 
Joel said:
Much of what has been written about anointed in both 2016 WT (both study articles in Jan) and in 2020 (again both study articles in Jan) I personally find repugnant! Consider this paragraph 15 from January 2016 pp. 17-21: "Perhaps you are wondering if you have received this wonderful invitation. If you think that you might have, ponder some important questions. Do you feel that you have more than average zeal in the ministry? Are you a keen student of God’s Word who loves to delve into “the deep things of God”? (1 Cor. 2:10) Have you seen Jehovah’s special blessing on your ministry? Do you have a burning desire to do Jehovah’s will? Do you have a deep inner feeling of responsibility to help others spiritually? Have you seen proof that Jehovah has personally intervened in your life? If you answer these questions with a resounding yes, does this mean that you now have the heavenly calling? No, it does not. Why not? Because these are not unique feelings experienced only by those who have the heavenly calling. Jehovah’s spirit works with equal force in those who have the hope of living forever on earth. In fact, if you are wondering whether you have received the heavenly calling, that would in itself indicate that you have not received it. Those called by Jehovah do not wonder whether they have been invited or not! They know!
Click to expand...
Has Robert given his personal experience on how he knew? The last sentence of the paragraph seems reasonable since one should know rather than guess.
 
Joel said:
Much of what has been written about anointed in both 2016 WT (both study articles in Jan) and in 2020 (again both study articles in Jan) I personally find repugnant! Consider this paragraph 15 from January 2016 pp. 17-21: "Perhaps you are wondering if you have received this wonderful invitation. If you think that you might have, ponder some important questions. Do you feel that you have more than average zeal in the ministry? Are you a keen student of God’s Word who loves to delve into “the deep things of God”? (1 Cor. 2:10) Have you seen Jehovah’s special blessing on your ministry? Do you have a burning desire to do Jehovah’s will? Do you have a deep inner feeling of responsibility to help others spiritually? Have you seen proof that Jehovah has personally intervened in your life? If you answer these questions with a resounding yes, does this mean that you now have the heavenly calling? No, it does not. Why not? Because these are not unique feelings experienced only by those who have the heavenly calling. Jehovah’s spirit works with equal force in those who have the hope of living forever on earth. In fact, if you are wondering whether you have received the heavenly calling, that would in itself indicate that you have not received it. Those called by Jehovah do not wonder whether they have been invited or not! They know!
Click to expand...
That paragraph made me uncomfortable too, especially the last 2 sentences, because they run counter to my own experience. My invitation from Jehovah was so unexpected that at first I thought I was imagining things. He had to contact me a second time before I believed it.
 
PJ54 said:
Has Robert given his personal experience on how he knew? The last sentence of the paragraph seems reasonable since one should know rather than guess.
Click to expand...
Yes he did in one of his letters.
After you make sure (1 Thessalonians 5:21), you know!...:)
 
Joel said:
After you make sure (1 Thessalonians 5:21), you know!...:)
Click to expand...
Think about those Jews in the first century and also the non-Jews, that became believers. Apostle Paul explained them much about anointing in his letters, after being inspired by Jehovah God! Ask yourself the question: if Jehovah God would give each anointed the conviction directly, why the need for witnessing and teaching...?
 
a watcher said:
That paragraph made me uncomfortable too, especially the last 2 sentences, because they run counter to my own experience. My invitation from Jehovah was so unexpected that at first I thought I was imagining things. He had to contact me a second time before I believed it.
Click to expand...
Yes, like this one:
"Jehovah’s spirit works with equal force in those who have the hope of living forever on earth." But "equal force" does not mean "equal hope"!
 
a watcher said:
That paragraph made me uncomfortable too, especially the last 2 sentences, because they run counter to my own experience. My invitation from Jehovah was so unexpected that at first I thought I was imagining things. He had to contact me a second time before I believed it.
Click to expand...
Like a vison or dream?
 
Yes and no. Obviously Jehovah chooses those who join Jesus in heaven. In 2011 while I was disfellowshippEd I felt I was anointed (I was disfellowshipped in 2001 the local elders were so bitter I could not return for the first two years so I gave up) this caused me to want to enjoy life as a man before leaving the earthly realm . So I found a companion in the world and we married In 2012. This was the best personal decision I made. During this time I spent 3 years trying to get reinstated. I was reinstalled in 2013, I secretly took the emblems. By visiting other congregations at memorial eventually I moved congregation and took the emblems with the elders knowledge, Not Good idea! In 2015 many extra brothers became participating partakers eventually nearly reaching 20,000 . The Wt mentioned this increase was likely to be spurious and many of the new ones were emotionally misled. Eventually I met with the elders and said I had doubts so withdrew this made them very happy. I still partake at home but probably am not. My life with my wife is so good and she (she is not a witness) has special needs this means from my personal perspective I would prefer to be with earthly hope. I considered the number 144000 and if it’s literal then it’s impossible to be correct if you count from the apostles to date But if there were two hopes since Pentecost earthly and heavenly then it works and an incerase in number just before the end seems logical. numbers not just counted by wt including all Bible student worldwide like Robert.
Brother Russell believed there were two groups since Pentecost to date one being extra devoted (144k) and less devoted both gaining favour and living initially in heaven. Rutherford updated this view in 1935 as the Great crowd of people who survive Armageddon. The other sheep though who die prior to this event could have been Christians alongside those anointed heavenly ones Since Pentecost to date. This removes the numbers problem I also feel logically that a fixed number would work since this is a composite bride/wife initially to govern for 1000yrs humans on earth. Obviously wherever Almighty God put us is a huge privilege ether in government or as a subject does not matter. Humans do miss out on entering the location where Jehovah dwells but the disciples were given the transfiguration experience by Jesus meaning as humans we can experience something very close to the real thing. The subjects will have more fun and can enjoy all the physical joys that angels miss out on unless they materialise. The original demons so much wanted to be human parents and yet it was a disaster for them. So many who insisted they want to be in heaven with Christ then go on about having a lovely garden in heaven. How silly!!!
 
I agree with bagdadbill It a wonderful privalage to become friends of Jehovah through his son and that friend ship is as earthly children. The offer of becoming part of the bride class is only because of Adams sin. The offer is specific to the solving of this problem. They are governmental positions for the sake of bringing billions of humans into perfection. Read my other comments on the anointed and my experience Thereof. ABOVE.
Just one more point during the 1000yrs the humans on earth are likely to see Jesus and some angels possibly in the flesh. Obviously the wt does not teach this but it may be in the new scrolls. The prohibition is only because of the demons at present. This ability to touch would be like when Thomas touched Jesus since he materialisend in the flesh and bone as with the angels who visited Lot. Contact will be even more intense and personal than previously. Some may want to be in heaven for this contact with Jesus but it is not necessary at all.
thank you all,
 
Last edited:
It is interesting you bring up about how the org criticized partakers because of the sudden increase a few years ago. I remember that too. It's ironic because they sounded like the disgruntled workers who were upset at the 11th hour workers. Amazing that they can "see" Jehovah's hand in administering vaccines, but never considered the possibility of the increase in anointed as coming from Jehovah. The blind prophets only see what they want to see.
 
The Black Sheep said:
It is interesting you bring up about how the org criticized partakers because of the sudden increase a few years ago. I remember that too. It's ironic because they sounded like the disgruntled workers who were upset at the 11th hour workers. Amazing that they can "see" Jehovah's hand in administering vaccines, but never considered the possibility of the increase in anointed as coming from Jehovah. The blind prophets only see what they want to see.
Click to expand...
It's probably a threat to their Last Generation doctrine.
 
Watchman said:
You have it backward. Being anointed is the calling. The sealing ends the anointing. Is Jesus anointed now? No. He was anointed while he was on earth. Now he is the new creation that came from being born again from the anointing.
Click to expand...
I agree. As the scriptures tell is, "Many are called and few are chosen", (Matt. 22:14), but those that are chosen are anointed with the Holy Spirit AND sealed as Eph 1:13 tells us "When you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and when you believed in Him, you were also sealed with the promised Holy Spirit." That said, remember that only those who are "faithful unto death" will received the "crown of life". Rev 2:10b.

RR
 
Asadour said:
i think i would really like to be anointed. But i’m happy to help to comprise the great crowd too.
Click to expand...
If are of the anointed and you want to add to the multitude, then you and the boy need to get multiplying before you go to heaven. I see you changed your look again. I need to work out how to do that?
 
  • Like
Reactions: jay
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top