WT, the "Used car Salesmen" of religion.

Nomex

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The 2023 convention drama inserts yet again, their, "strange impractical, illogical direction" that we must follow, when they say in the Drama, "we have to trust those whom Jehovah trusts, even if we may not understand the direction at the time."

This reads exactly like the used cars salesman who is lying to you, you know he's lying to you, he knows you know he's lying to you, and in his desperation he ends every argument he's making with, "trust me".

The obvious question we should ask is how do we know Jehovah "trusts them"? Well all you have to do is ask them!

Again this is where the 1914 narrative falls completely apart because without it, Jesus did not return in 1919 and appoint them as "the faithful and discreet slave." So they will never give that up.

This theme though of "trust those Jehovah trusts" is a recurring theme. I am convinced it underscores a problem they are facing. People are NOT "trusting" them. And like a good used car salesman whose caught in his lies, he just double downs and keeps repeating, "trust me."


Sorry, no, we don't trust known liars!
 

Medi-tator

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Thank you brother! I am just relentlessly pointing out the obvious!
Unfortunately and evidently not obvious enough for many. My daughter is still stuck in as PIMI. Can you believe that? With all that is going on and has gone on and they say stupid stuff like "trust us (without testing us out) because Jehovah trusts us", how they actually still have remaining congregants is baffling to me. Jesus and all the prophets were sure correct when they spoke about our time. Isaiah in particular, "they have eyes but do not see, ears but do not hear". OMG!! "Satan has blinded the minds of the unbelievers". Our dear brothers and sisters in the org are actually unbelievers and many will become anti-christs when they reject Jesus in the near future. So baffling but the prophecies need to be fulfilled. Another OMG!!
 

Melinda

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Unfortunately and evidently not obvious enough for many. My daughter is still stuck in as PIMI. Can you believe that? With all that is going on and has gone on and they say stupid stuff like "trust us (without testing us out) because Jehovah trusts us", how they actually still have remaining congregants is baffling to me. Jesus and all the prophets were sure correct when they spoke about our time. Isaiah in particular, "they have eyes but do not see, ears but do not hear". OMG!!
They have eyes but do not see, ears but do not here… I am always amazed at all these scriptures we used to use to describe Christendom yet little did we know these scriptures was describing the Watchtower. It’s so easy to see.
 

CyndiaS

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The 2023 convention drama inserts yet again, their, "strange impractical, illogical direction" that we must follow, when they say in the Drama, "we have to trust those whom Jehovah trusts, even if we may not understand the direction at the time."

This reads exactly like the used cars salesman who is lying to you, you know he's lying to you, he knows you know he's lying to you, and in his desperation he ends every argument he's making with, "trust me".

The obvious question we should ask is how do we know Jehovah "trusts them"? Well all you have to do is ask them!

Again this is where the 1914 narrative falls completely apart because without it, Jesus did not return in 1919 and appoint them as "the faithful and discreet slave." So they will never give that up.

This theme though of "trust those Jehovah trusts" is a recurring theme. I am convinced it underscores a problem they are facing. People are NOT "trusting" them. And like a good used car salesman whose caught in his lies, he just double downs and keeps repeating, "trust me."


Sorry, no, we don't trust known liars!
Reminds me of what I just posted on IG re this same topic + same application:
 

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Seadog

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The 2023 convention drama inserts yet again, their, "strange impractical, illogical direction" that we must follow, when they say in the Drama, "we have to trust those whom Jehovah trusts, even if we may not understand the direction at the time."

This reads exactly like the used cars salesman who is lying to you, you know he's lying to you, he knows you know he's lying to you, and in his desperation he ends every argument he's making with, "trust me".

The obvious question we should ask is how do we know Jehovah "trusts them"? Well all you have to do is ask them!

Again this is where the 1914 narrative falls completely apart because without it, Jesus did not return in 1919 and appoint them as "the faithful and discreet slave." So they will never give that up.

This theme though of "trust those Jehovah trusts" is a recurring theme. I am convinced it underscores a problem they are facing. People are NOT "trusting" them. And like a good used car salesman whose caught in his lies, he just double downs and keeps repeating, "trust me."


Sorry, no, we don't trust known liars!
I’ve always felt the strange and illogical direction we will be instructed to follow will be the gb handing over the bros on a plate to receive the mark of the beast. I mean what greater coup for Satan especially if a majority jump that way.
 

evw

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I’ve always felt the strange and illogical direction we will be instructed to follow will be the gb handing over the bros on a plate to receive the mark of the beast. I mean what greater coup for Satan especially if a majority jump that way.
Isn't it terrible that we not only think that way, but SHOULD think that way because it's true?
 

Liv4ever

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Exodus 14:3 Then Pharʹaoh will say about the Israelites, ‘They are wandering in confusion in the land. The wilderness has closed in on them.’
 

BagdadBill

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Have you ever read anything in the Watchtower about UN Agenda 2020 or 2030? No, and you never will. The information isn't hidden. They aren't allowed to hide it apparently. Maybe some sort of minimum that Satan is forced to adhere to. Ever see the name Bilderberg anywhere in our literature? Not even. Watchtower tells us to obey the government and take the jab but who is really running things anywhere?
Biden/Harris/Obama are not running USA and neither was Trump but they will never tell you. In fact you will never hear the governing body ever say another damning statement about the UN, USA government nor any of their plans for the next seven years. They won't tell you that the UN/WHO/ WEF are actively destroying our food systems as well as our health, but if you paid attention, you learned about it anyway in spite of Watchtower telling you to not worry about those dirty little conspiracy theories.

What we did get from Watchtower was the truth about Jehovah, Jesus, holy spirit, hell, the soul and other things that are the foundation of understanding God. What we also got was a framework of bible study that should have given us a far better practical ability to move through the bible and recall scripture than most any other church or religious group in the world. You might be thinking, well what is that worth though?
You're here reading this aren't you? Being informed and aware is a good self defense tool.
Christendom has this false belief that they will be rescued before Satan has a chance to put them to the ultimate test. I hear it even from some very influential ministers on the Internet. Your average JW isn't much different though are they? Watchtower has been soft pedaling the reality that is about to come upon us.
 

PJ54

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Have you ever read anything in the Watchtower about UN Agenda 2020 or 2030? No, and you never will. The information isn't hidden. They aren't allowed to hide it apparently. Maybe some sort of minimum that Satan is forced to adhere to. Ever see the name Bilderberg anywhere in our literature? Not even. Watchtower tells us to obey the government and take the jab but who is really running things anywhere?
Biden/Harris/Obama are not running USA and neither was Trump but they will never tell you. In fact you will never hear the governing body ever say another damning statement about the UN, USA government nor any of their plans for the next seven years. They won't tell you that the UN/WHO/ WEF are actively destroying our food systems as well as our health, but if you paid attention, you learned about it anyway in spite of Watchtower telling you to not worry about those dirty little conspiracy theories.

What we did get from Watchtower was the truth about Jehovah, Jesus, holy spirit, hell, the soul and other things that are the foundation of understanding God. What we also got was a framework of bible study that should have given us a far better practical ability to move through the bible and recall scripture than most any other church or religious group in the world. You might be thinking, well what is that worth though?
You're here reading this aren't you? Being informed and aware is a good self defense tool.
Christendom has this false belief that they will be rescued before Satan has a chance to put them to the ultimate test. I hear it even from some very influential ministers on the Internet. Your average JW isn't much different though are they? Watchtower has been soft pedaling the reality that is about to come upon us.
This is why so few will return to God. Lets be grateful to have some knowledge ahead of time.
 

PJ54

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Who was Jesus referring to in Mathew 7:13-14?
From my understanding it is those who are willing to go through the path that is narrow & will do what it takes to go through. I looked up some articles on the main site & the sister sites. Plus, there's a thread on that scripture & some of the comments might help.
 

PJ54

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From my understanding it is those who are willing to go through the path that is narrow & will do what it takes to go through. I looked up some articles on the main site & the sister sites. Plus, there's a thread on that scripture & some of the comments might help.
Something else to mention is these scriptures:
(Matthew 11:12 KJV) 12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

(Matthew 11:12 NWT) 12 From the days of John the Baptist until now, the Kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it.
 

Liv4ever

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Something else to mention is these scriptures:Matthew 11:12 those pressing forward are seizing it.
Which is what Rutherford did...so like it or not he fulfilled scripture. We can't go back and fix that. We have to keep moving forward
 

Watchman

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It is hard to trust an organization that basically ordered JW's to obey the WHO as if it were the superior authority. Even political rulers of nations and local authorities do not recognize the UN as having any authority over them. Of course, there is a concerted effort to change that and make the UN a world government, but until then no one can be compelled to comply with the UN or with Bill Gates' WHO. The WT has revealed itself to be an enemy of God.

 

Shekinah

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It is hard to trust an organization that basically ordered JW's to obey the WHO as if it were the superior authority. Even political rulers of nations and local authorities do not recognize the UN as having any authority over them. Of course, there is a concerted effort to change that and make the UN a world government, but until then no one can be compelled to comply with the UN or with Bill Gates' WHO. The WT has revealed itself to be an enemy of God.

Wow more dangerous than the world economic forum now that's saying something 😥
 
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