You gotta hand it to those Chinese

[MickHewitt]

The Chinese have used the American 671billion GPT AI model to create a better model that exceeds the best American model without the need for Nvidia chips for just $6million ....WOW! Yes they simply asked GPT how to create a better model cheaply without the need for Nvidia chips and it did! According to Sequoia research, the US AI industry needs to reach $600 billion in annual revenues to justify current levels of investment. So far, it's only reached around 10% of that sum and China may just have blown up their business plans along with investors' assumptions about the future of the AI industry. https://substack.com/home/post/p-155924490

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

The Chinese have used the American 671billion GPT AI model to create a better model that exceeds the best American model without the need for Nvidia chips for just $6million ....WOW! Yes they simply asked GPT how to create a better model cheaply and it did https://substack.com/home/post/p-155924490

I do not understand anything about computers and AI. Is it safe to use AI at present? I view it as a collective understanding built upon the most most coherent explanations and insight in general. That does not infer that it’s accurate only that it is in terms of higher thinking, likely to be, but in general, more likely to be the most “popular” understanding and which given the average intelligence, is not always a good thing. Is this correct? I would like to try it out, but when I read the conditions and terms of the Chinese model it appears that it can rob you blind by infiltrating your private information and leave you to pay for it - a bit like all governments. Any advice?

 

[MickHewitt]

I do not understand anything about computers and AI. Is it safe to use AI at present? I view it as a collective understanding built upon the most most coherent explanations and insight in general. That does not infer that it’s accurate only that it is in terms of higher thinking, likely to be, but in general, more likely to be the most “popular” understanding and which given the average intelligence, is not always a good thing. Is this correct? I would like to try it out, but when I read the conditions and terms of the Chinese model it appears that it can rob you blind by infiltrating your private information and leave you to pay for it - a bit like all governments. Any advice?

Ask AI.....Chortle

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

Ask AI.....Chortle

Trust you to make an answer like that Mick!!!

 

[Chloe]

I thought Steve Quayle on USA Watchdog had an interesting description of AI.

“Then there is Artificial Intelligence (AI) that Wall Street is going crazy over. There is talk of curing cancer in two days and other outrageous claims. Quayle says don’t believe this. Quayle says, “Just imagine AI as a supercharged Quija Board. It’s not just a Quija Board, but it’s a hangout for evil spirits. I think this is the intersection of the End of the Age, and we are dealing with supernatural intelligence that is all designed to mislead human beings and destroy them.”

 

[Watchman]

The AI hype was intended to blow up a bubble to keep the stock market up before the election—a lot of hot air. Now that the election is over, they may decide to crash everything and let Trump take the fall.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

I thought Steve Quayle on USA Watchdog had an interesting description of AI.

“Then there is Artificial Intelligence (AI) that Wall Street is going crazy over. There is talk of curing cancer in two days and other outrageous claims. Quayle says don’t believe this. Quayle says, “Just imagine AI as a supercharged Quija Board. It’s not just a Quija Board, but it’s a hangout for evil spirits. I think this is the intersection of the End of the Age, and we are dealing with supernatural intelligence that is all designed to mislead human beings and destroy them.”

I’m pretty certain that intelligence has been artificial since the moment Eve sunk her molars into that fruit. I turned on AI in my iPad yesterday and have as yet not been educated by it in the least. I asked it what meat might be found in an American hot dog. The answer was inconclusive! So I asked it to name an honest politician - needless to say it’s still computing the matter.

 

[Jahrule]

The Chinese have used the American 671billion GPT AI model to create a better model that exceeds the best American model without the need for Nvidia chips for just $6million ....WOW! Yes they simply asked GPT how to create a better model cheaply without the need for Nvidia chips and it did! According to Sequoia research, the US AI industry needs to reach $600 billion in annual revenues to justify current levels of investment. So far, it's only reached around 10% of that sum and China may just have blown up their business plans along with investors' assumptions about the future of the AI industry. https://substack.com/home/post/p-155924490

I wouldn’t say DeepSeek is outright better. It outperforms in certain benchmarks, but it still has limitations. Think of it like the evolution from old mainframe computers to early personal computers. When personal computers first came out, they were nowhere near as capable as mainframes—they were just “good enough” for some tasks. DeepSeek is similar: it’s good enough for certain applications, but it’s still not as reliable as the larger models, especially when it comes to mathematics.

Don’t get me wrong—DeepSeek is a game changer, particularly because you can run the model locally, assuming you have the necessary resources. There are smaller versions that can even run on a Raspberry Pi, but they’re not very accurate and tend to be extremely slow unless you have a separate GPU. The largest model, on the other hand, is far more accurate, but running it locally requires substantial hardware. You’d need about half a terabyte of storage, not to mention significant processing power. It’s possible, but definitely not practical for the average person.

The largest DeepSeek model has around 671 billion parameters. To run it, you’ll need a GPU with at least 40+ GB of VRAM, 128 GB of RAM, a powerful CPU, and a large amount of storage. They do offer smaller models that can run on less powerful hardware, and you can also access the R1 version online, similar to ChatGPT. However, I wouldn’t recommend that option—everything you input is transmitted directly to the Chinese government. ChatGPT’s data privacy concerns are already unsettling enough, and I can’t imagine what the CCP might be doing with that kind of data.

Running the model locally helps you avoid this security risk, but be prepared for the cost. To build a PC capable of running the DeepSeek-R1-Zero model locally, you’re looking at an estimated cost of around $12,200 to $19,000 USD, depending on the specific components you choose.

 

[MickHewitt]

I wouldn’t say DeepSeek is outright better. It outperforms in certain benchmarks, but it still has limitations. Think of it like the evolution from old mainframe computers to early personal computers. When personal computers first came out, they were nowhere near as capable as mainframes—they were just “good enough” for some tasks. DeepSeek is similar: it’s good enough for certain applications, but it’s still not as reliable as the larger models, especially when it comes to mathematics.

Don’t get me wrong—DeepSeek is a game changer, particularly because you can run the model locally, assuming you have the necessary resources. There are smaller versions that can even run on a Raspberry Pi, but they’re not very accurate and tend to be extremely slow unless you have a separate GPU. The largest model, on the other hand, is far more accurate, but running it locally requires substantial hardware. You’d need about half a terabyte of storage, not to mention significant processing power. It’s possible, but definitely not practical for the average person.

The largest DeepSeek model has around 671 billion parameters. To run it, you’ll need a GPU with at least 40+ GB of VRAM, 128 GB of RAM, a powerful CPU, and a large amount of storage. They do offer smaller models that can run on less powerful hardware, and you can also access the R1 version online, similar to ChatGPT. However, I wouldn’t recommend that option—everything you input is transmitted directly to the Chinese government. ChatGPT’s data privacy concerns are already unsettling enough, and I can’t imagine what the CCP might be doing with that kind of data.

Running the model locally helps you avoid this security risk, but be prepared for the cost. To build a PC capable of running the DeepSeek-R1-Zero model locally, you’re looking at an estimated cost of around $12,200 to $19,000 USD, depending on the specific components you choose.

Thanks for that; The Empire believes because it mapped the world and invented the steam engine that no other country has the intellect especially Chinese and Indian nations! The Asians far exceed the west when it comes to maths: When China hosted the Olympics the empire's entrants also visiting students were told not to talk of the Chinese innovations that they experienced....... If Jehovah had not confused the languages and let them alone to work together AI would possibly been achieved very early on in mankind's history..... That old fox Netanyahu once said that the biggest obstacle between nations was symantics!

 

[BagdadBill]

Thanks for that; The Empire believes because it mapped the world and invented the steam engine that no other country has the intellect especially Chinese and Indian nations! The Asians far exceed the west when it comes to maths: When China hosted the Olympics the empire's entrants also visiting students were told not to talk of the Chinese innovations that they experienced....... If Jehovah had not confused the languages and let them alone to work together AI would possibly been achieved very early on in mankind's history..... That old fox Netanyahu once said that the biggest obstacle between nations was symantics!

They invented gun powder and pasta. Look what happened to the world just from those two alone. Pasta clearly being the more dangerous of the two, fell into Roman hands and the world has never been the same since.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

I do not understand anything about computers and AI. Is it safe to use AI at present? I view it as a collective understanding built upon the most most coherent explanations and insight in general. That does not infer that it’s accurate only that it is in terms of higher thinking, likely to be, but in general, more likely to be the most “popular” understanding and which given the average intelligence, is not always a good thing. Is this correct? I would like to try it out, but when I read the conditions and terms of the Chinese model it appears that it can rob you blind by infiltrating your private information and leave you to pay for it - a bit like all governments. Any advice?

I think similar to you Barney except I personally believe that it's information that the powers that be want us all to have, regardless of whether it's true information or not. If we all have the exact information and therefore the same beliefs then we'll just be like robots and robots is pretty much what they're aiming for. Robots can be controlled, and robots don't worship Jehovah.. I wish I knew how to switch off the AI stuff on my laptop and mobile phone..

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

I think similar to you Barney except I personally believe that it's information that the powers that be want us all to have, regardless of whether it's true information or not. If we all have the exact information and therefore the same beliefs then we'll just be like robots and robots is pretty much what they're aiming for. Robots can be controlled, and robots don't worship Jehovah.. I wish I knew how to switch off the AI stuff on my laptop and mobile phone..

You probably have to take the battery out of your laptop if you want to turn off these things, then put your laptop in a 125 ton press and pull the lever. That might help, but just to be sure, you could dissolve the remains in acid and throw in a grenade afterward before sealing it all in a lead box and sinking it over the Mariana trench at 37,000 feet depth. Then cancel your internet subscription too before leaving the country and volunteering for a trip to Mars as the first settler but set up home on the dark side out of radio reach - but make sure you don’t let anyone know your new address just in case they find your password. Then move to a new address without telling anyone. It’s the only way.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

You probably have to take the battery out of your laptop if you want to turn off these things, then put your laptop in a 125 ton press and pull the lever. That might help, but just to be sure, you could dissolve the remains in acid and throw in a grenade afterward before sealing it all in a lead box and sinking it over the Mariana trench at 37,000 feet depth. Then cancel your internet subscription too before leaving the country and volunteering for a trip to Mars as the first settler but set up home on the dark side out of radio reach - but make sure you don’t let anyone know your new address just in case they find your password. Then move to a new address without telling anyone. It’s the only way.

That was so funny Barney not because it's idiotic but because it's close to the truth

 

[Patricia]

I think similar to you Barney except I personally believe that it's information that the powers that be want us all to have, regardless of whether it's true information or not. If we all have the exact information and therefore the same beliefs then we'll just be like robots and robots is pretty much what they're aiming for. Robots can be controlled, and robots don't worship Jehovah.. I wish I knew how to switch off the AI stuff on my laptop and mobile phone..

There's nothing new under the sun. Same plan Nimrod had in Babel.
I don't know if I ever told this story here or not but here it is anyway- I heard this from a rabbi many years ago, that the tower wasn't an actual tower but was instead a "society." The tower being made of bricks, clay and whatever, pressed into a mold, they all come out of the mold looking the same, that's the people. Instead of using stone which each have their own different characteristics. Then the mortar is the STUFF that holds the people together. They are living in a city with all the convenience that brings, all worshipping the same pagan gods, plus Nimrod is filling their mind with all kinds of propaganda to keep them all the same.
Wait, kinda sounds like Watchtower

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

There's nothing new under the sun. Same plan Nimrod had in Babel.
I don't know if I ever told this story here or not but here it is anyway- I heard this from a rabbi many years ago, that the tower wasn't an actual tower but was instead a "society." The tower being made of bricks, clay and whatever, pressed into a mold, they all come out of the mold looking the same, that's the people. Instead of using stone which each have their own different characteristics. Then the mortar is the STUFF that holds the people together. They are living in a city with all the convenience that brings, all worshipping the same pagan gods, plus Nimrod is filling their mind with all kinds of propaganda to keep them all the same.
Wait, kinda sounds like Watchtower

Oh right, I thought Babylon city and the tower were real places? I've never really had any reason to believe the tower wasn't real, not when you look around the world and see them all trying to out do eachother when it comes to "who's got the tallest building?" Or "who's gone the highest up into the sky?" Or who's telescope can "see" the furthest?" and so on, basically, men and their toys! and men and the competition they insist on having between eachother! Like you said, there's nothing new under the sun. Living in Jehovah's new world, getting to know resurrected ones who lived in these bible times is going to be sooooo fascinating, listening to their stories is going to be incredible, and they'll probably going to feel the same about OUR stories, about this crazy time in history we are living in

 

[Patricia]

Oh right, I thought Babylon city and the tower were real places? I've never really had any reason to believe the tower wasn't real, not when you look around the world and see them all trying to out do eachother when it comes to "who's got the tallest building?" Or "who's gone the highest up into the sky?" Or who's telescope can "see" the furthest?" and so on, basically, men and their toys! and men and the competition they insist on having between eachother! Like you said, there's nothing new under the sun. Living in Jehovah's new world, getting to know resurrected ones who lived in these bible times is going to be sooooo fascinating, listening to their stories is going to be incredible, and they'll probably going to feel the same about OUR stories, about this crazy time in history we are living in

Yes! It's going to be fascinating for sure. I've often thought about how unbelievable our stories are going to be to those who have gone before. I can't wait to see my mother's face when I tell her that Donald Trump became president. Lol. Imagine telling Elijah about space travel. These will be exhilarating times indeed.

As to whether the tower of Babel was literal or not, I have no proof. I always thought of it as literal but the story in the Bible just didn't quite make sense to me. Yes, Jehovah wanted the people to spread out and fill the earth, but it seemed to me that there had to be more to the story. The people divided into their new language groups and started new cities very quickly and Jehovah didn't stop them then. So anyway, when I heard this Rabbi's explanation, the light bulb lit up..
Satan has been trying to achieve his one world government, one world religion, one channel for all information from the beginning. It just makes sense. To me any way.

I don't remember if he said the tower was only figurative or if it could have been both. All I know is that his explanation helped ME get it. So I'm comfortable with it being a literal tower too.

Now thinking about Watchtower, I find it amusing that the Bible calls Nimrod's structure a tower. Coincidence?

 

[BrooksB]

Running the model locally helps you avoid this security risk, but be prepared for the cost. To build a PC capable of running the DeepSeek-R1-Zero model locally, you’re looking at an estimated cost of around $12,200 to $19,000 USD, depending on the specific components you choose.

No sweat launderette! After running a couple of those elongated shifts of yours for a couple of months straight out on the RR, you should have that chunk of change and then some. Right? Ohhh, wrong , sorry.! One can dream

 

[BrooksB]

Yes! It's going to be fascinating for sure. I've often thought about how unbelievable our stories are going to be to those who have gone before. I can't wait to see my mother's face when I tell her that Donald Trump became president. Lol. Imagine telling Elijah about space travel. These will be exhilarating times indeed.

As to whether the tower of Babel was literal or not, I have to proof. I always thought of it as literal but the story in the Bible just didn't quite make sense to me. Yes, Jehovah wanted the people to spread out and fill the earth, but it seemed to me that there had to be more to the story. The people divided into their new language groups and started new cities very quickly and Jehovah didn't stop them then. So anyway, when I heard this Rabbi's explanation, the light bulb lit up..
Satan has been trying to achieve his one world government, one world religion, one channel for all information from the beginning. It just makes sense. To me any way.

I don't remember if he said the tower was only figurative or if it could have been both. All I know is that his explanation helped ME get it. So I'm comfortable with it being a literal tower too.

Now thinking about Watchtower, I find it amusing that the Bible calls Nimrod's structure a tower. Coincidence?

This is really cool! Thank you @Patricia

 

[Jahrule]

No sweat launderette! After running a couple of those elongated shifts of yours for a couple of months straight out on the RR, you should have that chunk of change and then some. Right? Ohhh, wrong , sorry.! One can dream

Maybe after I sell my railroad mobile game

 

[BagdadBill]

Maybe after I sell my railroad mobile game

Is this like A-Train from the 80s on Commodore-64?

 

[Jahrule]

Is this like A-Train from the 80s on Commodore-64?

It's more like flappy Bird but railroad themed. This is my first mobile game so it's super simple. Plus I haven't programmed since college, which was well over a decade ago at this point. You got to set realistic goals.

I also don't have a lot of free time anymore. I kind of gave up on programming a long time ago. But for whatever reason my obsession with programming has once again begun.

 

[BagdadBill]

It's more like flappy Bird but railroad themed. This is my first mobile game so it's super simple. Plus I haven't programmed since college, which was well over a decade ago at this point. You got to set realistic goals.

I also don't have a lot of free time anymore. I kind of gave up on programming a long time ago. But for whatever reason my obsession with programming has once again begun.

Flappy bird with a train? I can't even imagine that. Does the engine car veer off for fun?

 

[Jahrule]

Flappy bird with a train? I can't even imagine that. Does the engine car veer off for fun?

It won't be flappy bird. It'll be its own thing, but it will have some similarities, such as an addictive 2D side scrolling infinite runner with a parallaxing background. I also won't freak out like the creator of flappy bird. I don't care how much hate mail I get. Of course, I don't expect to generate $50,000 a day like he did. But if parents get mad at me I'll just deal with it.

 

[BagdadBill]

It won't be flappy bird. It'll be its own thing, but it will have some similarities, such as an addictive 2D side scrolling infinite runner with a parallaxing background. I also won't freak out like the creator of flappy bird. I don't care how much hate mail I get. Of course, I don't expect to generate $50,000 a day like he did. But if parents get mad at me I'll just deal with it.

I was only remotely familiar with the Flappy Bird thing. I understood it to be a money thing. Someone wanted more money.
Do you ever pitch horse shoes?

 

[Jahrule]

I was only remotely familiar with the Flappy Bird thing. I understood it to be a money thing. Someone wanted more money.
Do you ever pitch horse shoes?

Actually the creator of flappy Bird removed his game because he thought it was hurting people, even though it was making $50,000 a day.