“I’ve got the papers!”

Yupyup_yup

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@Yupyup_yup I looked it up the word here. Although, there’s more lengthy explanation of this in Wikipedia.

One of the most famous temples of Asclepius was at Epidaurus in north-eastern Peloponnese, dated to the fourth century BC. Another famous asclepeion was built approximately a century later on the island of Kos, where Hippocrates, the legendary "father of medicine", may have begun his career.

No different today than in times past. Back then we refer to it as ancient medicine, today we call it ‘modern medicine.’ Just goes to show that “there’s nothing knew under the sun.” 😊

HIPPOCRATIC OATH

That all doctor's have to swear once they finished school

These same doctors are the ones that the world nations are bowing down to

In the name of health
 

Ms_ladyblue

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HIPPOCRATIC OATH

That all doctor's have to swear once they finished school

These same doctors are the ones that the world nations are bowing down to

In the name of health
@Yupyup_yup It seems like I remember hearing a report a while back about if you read the entire HIPPOCRATIC OATH it seems to be contrary to what it’s overall intended to mean. Do you know anything about that?
 

Ms_ladyblue

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The sign itself goes back to Moses though, right?
Oh yes, I do believe you’re right Patricia. The copper serpent was one of those idols that King Hezekiah removed.

2 Kings 18:3,4
3 He kept doing what was right in Jehovah’s eyes, just as David his forefather had done. 4 He was the one who removed the high places, smashed the sacred pillars, and cut down the sacred pole. He also crushed the copper serpent that Moses had made; for down to that time the people of Israel had been making sacrificial smoke to it and it used to be called the copper serpent-idol.
 

Back to True Worship

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We need to talk about the shedding. I know there are a lot of strong feelings around this topic so I will try to keep it to what we have personally experienced. As I’ve mentioned before we have years in the natural / alternative health industry including years before c@d working with v injured children. We have known of the shedding effects for years. It’s been speculated that the MRNA technology has been added to v for years now including the flu v. And as was already discussed these shots were manufactured years ago and were just waiting for their big release. Many ICU and NICU wards have long posted outside their doors for recently v’ed to not enter due to shedding. It’s even documented in P@zr’s own v trial data cautioning pregnant women to avoid being in contact with the recently v@d.
While we still do not know exactly what’s in the v or what or even how something is “transmitting “ we can see that something is happening to us and many others.

We began noticing in early 2021 strange symptoms that we had never experienced before. We would get dizzy, headaches, tinnitus, bloody nose, head pressure, coughing, fatigue, female bleeding not on cycle, old injuries hurting again, testicular pains, diarrhea, and more. These effects were experienced by us and our immediate circle of non v@d friends and family when we were around the v@d. We started documenting all these effects and when we were with people and when we were not. We generally started experiencing these reactions within 24hrs after contact and the effects would clear up if we were not in contact with anyone for a couple days. We live on acreage in the country with no close neighbors so when we’re home there is no one near us. We would stay home not even going to the store (grocery deliveries with porch drop off are a life saver) for several days and would feel back to normal. We’d go back into our business with many v@d coming and going and it would all start up again. I would start feeling like the room was spinning, my husband would go out back with nose bleeds. We have never experienced these issues before.

Then we started having customers come in randomly complaining of the same type of reactions “out of the blue” according to them. When we would ask them if they were in contact with the v@d it was always yes whether it be coworkers in the office, the in-laws visiting, or their spouse or partner that got the v. One man came in looking pale and had to sit down he was so dizzy. He was non v but his live in girlfriend had just got v #3 for her job at the school district. We helped him with a detox protocol and he left feeling better. He came back in several weeks later looking much better. He said he could not tolerate all the effects from being in contact with her and moved out ending an 8 year relationship. He had been living alone and said he now only experienced the effects when he was in crowds like Costco shopping but it wasn’t constant anymore.

We also had another woman that is a hairdresser and constantly in contact with people. She also has a boyfriend that got the v. She began developing blood clots in her legs and neck. We were working with her to dissolve the clots. She also did the thermography scan and my tech was horrified by what she saw! I’ve attached a few of the scans. There is clearly something very abnormal forming in her - we have never seen anything like this! The doctor was unable to identify what they were and labeled them as “unknowable “. 😳 we’re in uncharted territory!

Fast forward to April when meeting attendance returned in person. We already decided we were not going back because of all that had gone down and there was no way we were going along with the mask lie. Then add to that we would not put ourselves in a room with 80+ v@d in a closed area with no fresh air. When we are at our business we try to always have the doors open and fresh air and limit the amount of people in there at a time although we still get affected. So we have stayed on Zoom. My husband wanted the brothers to know why we weren’t coming back. He had a call with our COBE and all he would say was “ No need to explain - you don’t have to tell me anything!” and he quickly ended the conversation obviously uncomfortable with what he was hearing. BTW as far as we know my husband is the only non v@d on our elder body, the rest proudly announce every time they get a booster! 🙄🙄 He also had a discussion with another elder he had been fairly close with, we’ll call him Max, about what we were experiencing. Max listened kindly and then suggested that if we would just get the v ourselves we wouldn’t have these issues anymore. 🙈🙄 They really have no clue.

Our CO visit was a couple of months ago. As expected Max called to invite my husband to a “encouragement “ visit with him and the CO. Through all of this the other elders, some of whom we have known our entire lives, have stopped contacting us. The once friendly discussions on Zoom before meetings was now just awkward silence. At the end of one of the elders meetings the brother giving the closing prayer asked Jehovah to strengthen my husband during his time of “mental and emotional illness”! Ok now we get it - they think we’re nut cases! 😡😡 I’m sure there’s been much discussion on how crazy our ideas are but we know what we see happening and it’s not our imagination! The meeting with the CO was scheduled for Friday morning right after the Zoom service meeting. We log onto the service meeting just as Max‘s wife was telling everyone he won’t be on because he was very sick in bed after taking TWO boosters the day before! What?! The very brother who was so worried about my husband was now deathly ill from the poison! Max has never recovered and is constantly at various doctors trying to figure out his rapid health decline.

Our CO and his wife are very different than any other COs we’ve ever had. They are the most unfriendly couple we think we have ever met. Cold with absolutely no sense of humor. They both sit there like robots staring straight ahead until it’s exactly time to start the meeting and then he starts talking from his script. Before the lockdown we tried getting to know them even taking them out to a nice restaurant. That was one of the longest, most uncomfortable meals ever. Had to pry even basic conversation out of them. No warmth - nothing. The days of the friendly and lovable old CO couples are long gone. This was a company man to the core and he had a job to do. After the service meeting my husband, the CO, and our COBE (remember Max is too sick to join) are put in a separate Zoom room and the fun begins! I had to go outside or my mouth would have gotten us DFd on the spot! 😆
My husband begins to explain what we had been experiencing and what we’re seeing with other people in our business. The CO listens for about 90 seconds and cuts my husband off! He says “You’re wrong and I’ve got the papers to prove you’re wrong! I’ve studied the MRNA technology extensively and there is no such thing as shedding! You may be experiencing health problems but you’re wrong about where it’s coming from!“. My husband is so angry he’s shaking at this point and asks the CO what papers he’s referring to. The CO fires back “I’ve got the papers straight from the CDC website and it clearly states that shedding is not possible with these injections.” Ok talk about quoting the devil 👿 himself! Remember we trust the government now and follow their directions! My husband responded with he too had studied it and that P@zrs own data discusses shedding as a side effect. Oh CO did not like hearing that and shut him down fast! Wrong question! He said for us not to be discussing that and to “trust the faithful slave” 🤮 and that my husband was to go find a better doctor that could diagnose his strange illness! Company man did his job and shut us down with “the papers”.
We‘re sure COs have been instructed to squash any questions or opposing opinions fast. That was the end of it and they have moved on and we’ve now expecting our new CO and whatever that will bring. It’s clear to us there is no point in trying to discuss it with the elders, CO, or even writing a letter to the branch. They’re all following the borg. BTW we often wonder if we’re so sick around the v@d how in the heck are they still functioning! We’ve speculated they v may have material in it that is acting like an antenna once in someone. The closest we’ve been able to explain it is like radiation poisoning. You initially can’t feel it happening to you but the effects are real and serious. It’s even documented that cancer patients receiving radiation treatments should avoid close contact with their mates or family in the home as they are emitting low levels of radiation that could make others sick. It’s just a theory. We’re still trying to figure this mess out and we don’t know if the effects are cumulative. We just try now to limit our exposure and space out a couple of days a week with no contact.
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It is so sad to see such absolute mental illness , LOL , in the CO's and others who have had their thinking abilities impaired by the toxic reasoning and fear of the GB. Thanks for sharing the images also,I for the first time experienced this dizziness last night after visiting with my wife,oh and by the way things have been improving , but then again she thinks I am mentally ill and is therefore being kind to me,LOL. I subtly try to bring things up and its almost like she goes into a daze...staring without emotion at me.
 

Back to True Worship

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I subtly try to bring things up and its almost like she goes into a daze...staring without emotion at me. I also live with my son who is 24 and he is vaccinated , but does not want anymore and is regretful of his doing it...he is one who showed me that he could now place a quarter on his shoulder on the injection site and it sticks to his skin....I know you have seen that. I know that there is shedding but cannot bring myself to feel as though I should not be around them or leave them as it were. Death is most certainly coming on these ones , my family included. And I want to at least be there to comfort them. So very sad....
 

Yupyup_yup

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if you read the entire HIPPOCRATIC OATH it seems to be contrary to what it’s overall intended to mean. Do you know anything about that?

THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH
AS TRANSLATED BY LUDWIG EDELSTEIN
I swear by Apollo Physician and *Asclepius* and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfil according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant:
To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art—if they desire to learn it—without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but to no one else.
I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.
I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody if asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.
I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.
Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.
What I may see or hear in the course of the treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep to myself holding such things shameful to be spoken about.
If I fulfil this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.
 

Yupyup_yup

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Ge 3:1-15; Re 12:9

The Greek statue of Asclepius features the *serpent.* Interestingly, the Bible shows that Satan used a serpent as his mouthpiece


Ge 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.”

Rev 12:9
So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.
 

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kirmmy

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THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH
AS TRANSLATED BY LUDWIG EDELSTEIN
I swear by Apollo Physician and *Asclepius* and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfil according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant:
To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art—if they desire to learn it—without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but to no one else.
I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.
I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody if asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.
I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.
Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.
What I may see or hear in the course of the treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep to myself holding such things shameful to be spoken about.
If I fulfil this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.
Which Hippocratic Oath?:



It's changed over the years. One major change is that it now allows Doctors to Murder...oops...I mean abort babies. My heroes. /s
 

Yupyup_yup

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Which Hippocratic Oath?:



It's changed over the years. One major change is that it now allows Doctors to Murder...oops...I mean abort babies. My heroes. /s

It was taken from this 2004 awake
 

Citrine

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Things seem to be ramping up and not in a good way. If you recall me mentioning a mentally disabled man that has been coming into our office with several vx injuries he is steadily getting worse. He is now wearing a heart monitor 24 / 7 and they are scheduling him for some kind of heart procedure but he couldn’t tell me what it will be. He has multiple open, bleeding sores that will not heal. It’s like he’s just bleeding through his skin for no obvious reason. And like so many with the vx he’s just “sick” nonstop. He’s really suffering from this and I’ve never seen a case where literally nothing makes a difference. It’s like a runaway train - we are dealing with weaponized poison ☠️
One of our SIL has been in bed for over two weeks with excruciating neck pain. She did not have an injury - it just began hurting one day for no reason and even pain meds aren’t touching it. We’ve been documenting more and more massive spine and neck issues with no obvious cause. It’s been reported the vx are basically eating through the spine now.
There is rampant “sickness” running through the congregations here. I’ve already posted my own conclusions on what causes sickness and this falls in the same condition. We’re well over the 1 1/2 year mark of many getting the vx. Their body’s have been running all the systems and options to get the poison out and it’s now run down and out of options. It’s not looking good.
 

Citrine

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We’re off to one heck of a start to the week and it’s only Monday! 😳 First woman into our office today diagnosed with Leukemia shortly after her booster. She’s early 50s and doing chemo. Doctors told her its not curable but they will try to extend her life a bit. She also developed debilitating RA around the same time. She had none of these issues before the vx. Another customer called to see if there was anything we could do for her husband that was in ICU after a massive stroke last night. She called back this evening to tell us not to come as he had another stroke this afternoon - not looking good. He’s had at least 3 vx. Our neighbors called after we left a message that we haven’t seen them lately. She just got home from 2 weeks in the hospital after her stomach somehow became “detached” and they basically had to remove her stomach and connect her plumbing to her esophagus! While she was in the hospital her surgeon told her he had never seen that before but they had three other men in their hospital with the same thing! She is very sick and cold all the time. Her husbands cancer has also come roaring back after years in remission. They both had at least 3 vx. It’s happening folks.
 

mts

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@Citrine I'm flabbergasted at such horror. Wife and I since the beginning did not buy into the narrative and still don't. To think that elder's being invited to a course will be required to be vxd, is not just scary, but horrendous. Your proof just helps provide more conviction and determination to avoid this poison. How can ppl be so gullible? JW's believing the GB are infallible, well, these I can understand, but so many are just brainwashed and unable to logically conclude, hey, something about this 💉isn't right? I had a falling out with a cousin that after 1.5 years, decided to get it saying, well, what if you get sick and it's serious and you didn't get the jab? I said, what if i don't and nothing happens 2, 3+ years from now, then what? He obviously stayed quiet and time has proven me right. So, question for all: which carries more weight, the sanctity of life (2 Cor 7:1) or subjection to superior authorities (Rom 13)? So, it would be inappropriate to bungee jump or sky-dive because you would be putting your life at risk, right? However, it's ok to accept an experimental injection? Not going to even mention the fact that you can't ask, question or know the true contents within the 💉. A friend of mine, elder for decades, said, he is willing to give up his privilege vs taking the jab; likely there are many who are just as willing, but are quietly doing so or decided they will when the time comes. Thanks for sharing this eye-opening info. I'm sure there will be a lot more to come... unfortunately... so sad. 😢
 

Jah-son

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@Citrine I'm flabbergasted at such horror. Wife and I since the beginning did not buy into the narrative and still don't. To think that elder's being invited to a course will be required to be vxd, is not just scary, but horrendous. Your proof just helps provide more conviction and determination to avoid this poison. How can ppl be so gullible? JW's believing the GB are infallible, well, these I can understand, but so many are just brainwashed and unable to logically conclude, hey, something about this 💉isn't right? I had a falling out with a cousin that after 1.5 years, decided to get it saying, well, what if you get sick and it's serious and you didn't get the jab? I said, what if i don't and nothing happens 2, 3+ years from now, then what? He obviously stayed quiet and time has proven me right. So, question for all: which carries more weight, the sanctity of life (2 Cor 7:1) or subjection to superior authorities (Rom 13)? So, it would be inappropriate to bungee jump or sky-dive because you would be putting your life at risk, right? However, it's ok to accept an experimental injection? Not going to even mention the fact that you can't ask, question or know the true contents within the 💉. A friend of mine, elder for decades, said, he is willing to give up his privilege vs taking the jab; likely there are many who are just as willing, but are quietly doing so or decided they will when the time comes. Thanks for sharing this eye-opening info. I'm sure there will be a lot more to come... unfortunately... so sad. 😢
Your comment prompted me to review Roman's 13 in full context. After reading the full chapter, It's clear to me that the writer adds a condition to the subjection. Notice: "For those rulers are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Do you want to be free of fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; 4 for it is God’s minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear, for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword. It is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath against the one practicing what is bad."

The condition is that the authorities are in place to control and punish those practicing what is bad. The question is, who decides what is good and bad? Is the injection good? "Do not owe anything to anyone except to love one another; for whoever loves his fellow man has fulfilled the law." Is the injection loving of neighbor?

The condition of subjection then is to render obedience only when they are providing a service for the "good" of the community. This is why Christ himself as well as the apostles could reject said obedience when commanded to discontinue their ministry. This is why we reject the command to take up arms in warfare.

It's clear that obedience is conditional and the GB do not get to decide whether or not the superior authorities are supporting what is good or bad. That is up to each individual.
 
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