Wow. We never even knew. But I actually did not know that previously you could be df’d for talking with a df’d person.
That is very interesting for sure! I am curious to see what direction they are going with that.I also heard recently from a full time servant that they are discontinuing the use of the word “apostate”. I have no source on it though other than 2nd hand information but thought that was interesting. Wonder what term they will use now 🧐
I'm learning that there are some "unspoken rules" we are expected to abide by, these are not made known to the general brotherhood, and some are actually spoken only, never put in writing. I just learned of one such rule regarding those who work in the medical field and who have as their employment the task of hooking up blood transfusions.Wow. We never even knew. But I actually did not know that previously you could be df’d for talking with a df’d person.
The current state of the entire world is that the majority of people in the world today go along with vial disgusting things for the reason that "Most aren't willing to sacrifice their reputation." It is a form of pride that destroys truth, love and honesty.Most aren't willing to sacrifice their reputation.
ditto.This is one mixed blessing I don't have to deal with. I'm the only JW in my whole family.
Happened to Ray Franz apparently.Wow. We never even knew. But I actually did not know that previously you could be df’d for talking with a df’d person.
Heretic will be used! LolI also heard recently from a full time servant that they are discontinuing the use of the word “apostate”. I have no source on it though other than 2nd hand information but thought that was interesting. Wonder what term they will use now 🧐
Well so much for association with relatives still! They make clear your not a good example and thus not good association , which many will perceive as a bad associate and thus limit you from social events and the like , while it is a bit of a concession it is still nevertheless a hard road to travel most will see it as still non- negotiable
Brilliant Paul. What gets me is I’ve just seen this post that’s a month old. Your point is that shunning has been relaxed back in 2019 and yet it’s not been known . If you check my post there are loads on disfellowshipping and why it’s apostate and shunning breaches numerous of Caesars laws. How clever they made this discreet change so they can in future claim that their shunning policies have already changed yet how many elders have noticed this change And certainly no rank and file members. Except those like ourselves who are not blinded by the propaganda, Regards P.
Hi Paul. Thanks for finding it. I wrote to gb in October 2019 explaining that shunning breaches international law and it was only a matter of time before other countries would copy Russia. I don’t think this was a response to my letter I think my letter was binned either by the gb or their office staff. Do you have any more gems of news. Take care and thanks for this revelation. Regards Paz
I've got to ask what laws? AFAIK, you aren't forced to talk to even the police in this system in a "democracy". In fact, it's really good advice to not talk to the authorities if you find yourself being questioned by them. In the US you're not even compelled to testify in court. So if you don't have to talk to the authorities, even if compelledm then why do you have to talk to someone an org says is persona non grata?shunning breaches numerous of Caesars laws
Hi Kimmy,I've got to ask what laws? AFAIK, you aren't forced to talk to even the police in this system in a "democracy". In fact, it's really good advice to not talk to the authorities if you find yourself being questioned by them. In the US you're not even compelled to testify in court. So if you don't have to talk to the authorities, even if compelledm then why do you have to talk to someone an org says is persona non grata?
What laws are you referring to?