In regards to forgiveness.

[PJ54]

After reading the commentary on the daily text today, it has got me wondering on the issue of forgiveness. Over the years I have been taught to forgive everyone, even if they are not sorry, malicious, & unrepentant. I struggled with that since there are people in this world who mock such things & are glad to do evil & boy are people embracing evil at an alarming rate. While studying the bible I have learned that Jesus didn't forgive everybody (consider John 9:41). I try not to hold a grudge of any kind but I have to confess I have a deep resentment towards the world & life itself. The circumstances make me want to call evil on situations & rid them from my life. I have always been the more irritable type of person along with paranoia since it seems my "luck" (I use that term loosely) has been anything but ideal. I don't know if it is due to my upbringing & there's some form of PTSD that won't go away or if it's something else. There's the term to forgive & forget but the forgetting part is something I am not able to do since the experience is deeply engrained in my mind & sometimes it'll pop up (like when I first wake up & I'm ready to attack something) against my will. I'm at wits end at this point & not sure how to go about it (I do pray about it but I don't know what Jah's answer is). Does it make sense to harbor resentment towards circumstances & just life in general? I'm confused on what to do.

 

[SusanB]

…like when I first wake up & I'm ready to attack something) against my will….

My biological sister has shared with me that she has the same feelings. It kind of like sounds like depression to me but I’m not a doctor and not a psychologist. I think there is more to your story. Perhaps someone knows the right questions to ask that may reveal the underlying issue. A brother who was a psychologist told me long ago about EMDR, Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing. He said it works but I don’t have any first hand knowledge.

 

[PJ54]

My biological sister has shared with me that she has the same feelings. It kind of like sounds like depression to me but I’m not a doctor and not a psychologist. I think there is more to your story. Perhaps someone knows the right questions to ask that may reveal the underlying issue. A brother who was a psychologist told me long ago about EMDR, Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing. He said it works but I don’t have any first hand knowledge.

I do have depression & ADHD. I know those things have been genuine thorns in the flesh so to speak.

 

[Seadog]

I do have depression & ADHD. I know those things have been genuine thorns in the flesh so to speak.

I do believe letting go of animosity and practicing forgiveness leads to a better outcome for yourself. I had a business associate years ago who told me in all seriousness that my problem was I was far too forgiving 😅
I will say I have lots more friends than him and am possibly happier.

 

[SusanB]

I do believe letting go of animosity and practicing forgiveness leads to a better outcome for yourself. I had a business associate years ago who told me in all seriousness that my problem was I was far too forgiving 😅
I will say I have lots more friends than him and am possibly happier.

Thankfully most injuries, emotional or physical, can be resolved in a loving and forgiving way and there is certainly balance. Seadog, your kindness really shows through your comments!

Proverbs 10:12: “Hatred is what stirs up contentions, But love covers over all transgressions.”

Matthew 5:23-24: “If, then, you are bringing your gift to the altar and there you remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar, and go away. First make your peace with your brother, and then come back and offer your gift.”

 

[CathiiD'Anthonii]

After reading the commentary on the daily text today, it has got me wondering on the issue of forgiveness. Over the years I have been taught to forgive everyone, even if they are not sorry, malicious, & unrepentant. I struggled with that since there are people in this world who mock such things & are glad to do evil & boy are people embracing evil at an alarming rate. While studying the bible I have learned that Jesus didn't forgive everybody (consider John 9:41). I try not to hold a grudge of any kind but I have to confess I have a deep resentment towards the world & life itself. The circumstances make me want to call evil on situations & rid them from my life. I have always been the more irritable type of person along with paranoia since it seems my "luck" (I use that term loosely) has been anything but ideal. I don't know if it is due to my upbringing & there's some form of PTSD that won't go away or if it's something else. There's the term to forgive & forget but the forgetting part is something I am not able to do since the experience is deeply engrained in my mind & sometimes it'll pop up (like when I first wake up & I'm ready to attack something) against my will. I'm at wits end at this point & not sure how to go about it (I do pray about it but I don't know what Jah's answer is). Does it make sense to harbor resentment towards circumstances & just life in general? I'm confused on what to do.

John 14:27 I guess Jesus knew we would have nights like this..he gives us peace when we ask for it...

 

[KingdomLeast]

After reading the commentary on the daily text today, it has got me wondering on the issue of forgiveness. Over the years I have been taught to forgive everyone, even if they are not sorry, malicious, & unrepentant.

Oh goodie, so you've forgiven the governing body for misleading you?

 

[Summit]

I do have depression & ADHD. I know those things have been genuine thorns in the flesh so to speak.

Depression is a real thing but it typically is something that we get over with after we have dealt with something, as it naturally occurs after a traumatic event such as a death or divorce, but is more often than not just a short term affliction of the mind. Just as our skin repairs itself, so to God made our brains extremely adaptive to handle difficult situations. The word 'depression' has been hijacked by the Pharmaceutical companies to make you believe that you have a chemical imbalance in your brain. Please believe me, they know what they are doing when it comes to manipulating a target group of people to make them believe they have 'depression', when in fact most people just have poor coping skills, or have a very poor sleeping routine. Most true depression is only temporary and will resolve after a couple of months, naturally. Depression is the bodies way of dealing with difficult situations within ones life, but it is only temporary, and once time has elapsed you will recover.

At this point in time there is no test to accurately measure your chemicals within your brain to determine if you actually have an imbalance, it's just a 'crap shoot' when they prescribe these medicines. If your depression was caused by an incident rather than an actual imbalance in your brain, by taking 'depression' medicine you are effectively causing an imbalance that wasn't there in the first place. Sure, your 'down' feeling won't be so down anymore after you take a pill, but neither will your 'up' times, and hopefully they don't make you feel suicidal which IS a side effect. Imaging that...you thought you just had depression(and maybe you did), but you never actually thought of killing yourself. Now, you take a pill to fix the temporary depression in you, and presto, now you want to kill yourself because the side effects of the medicine can cause that. This is not the answer for the majority of people who think they have depression.

'Depression' medicine just makes you complacent and open to new suggestions from the all powerful pill wizards. More often than not the 'depression' you feel can be cured with a few good nights sleep(this is a fact), but turning off the tv and social media is never gonna happen, so might as well pop a pill and add some side effects to our lives.

I don't know you PJ54, so don't take what I just wrote personally, I just see this type of thing all the time and if people only knew that they have more control than they give themselves credit, and understand that it might only take a few adjustments in their lives to NOT feel 'depressed' anymore, without swallowing a pill.

 

[Ana]

After reading the commentary on the daily text today, it has got me wondering on the issue of forgiveness. Over the years I have been taught to forgive everyone, even if they are not sorry, malicious, & unrepentant. I struggled with that since there are people in this world who mock such things & are glad to do evil & boy are people embracing evil at an alarming rate. While studying the bible I have learned that Jesus didn't forgive everybody (consider John 9:41). I try not to hold a grudge of any kind but I have to confess I have a deep resentment towards the world & life itself. The circumstances make me want to call evil on situations & rid them from my life. I have always been the more irritable type of person along with paranoia since it seems my "luck" (I use that term loosely) has been anything but ideal. I don't know if it is due to my upbringing & there's some form of PTSD that won't go away or if it's something else. There's the term to forgive & forget but the forgetting part is something I am not able to do since the experience is deeply engrained in my mind & sometimes it'll pop up (like when I first wake up & I'm ready to attack something) against my will. I'm at wits end at this point & not sure how to go about it (I do pray about it but I don't know what Jah's answer is). Does it make sense to harbor resentment towards circumstances & just life in general? I'm confused on what to do.

Hola PJ52. Cuando me comunico contigo siempre me siento RD-D2 jjajaja!! Debe se la elección de tu nombre en el foro y mi capacidad de relacionar innata. Y dicho esto decirte que comprendo emociones que tienes pero con una experiencia distinta de vida y querido hermano, los matices distintos crean diversas oportunidades en la mente y en ese hilo de conexiones tan extenso que es nuestro cerebro, eso crea muchas opciones yo ye voy a ofrecer la mía. El perdon ha sido un tema recurrente en mi psique. Perdoné y ese fue mi gran fallo. No somos Jehová. Yo no tengo la visión interior sobre otra persona que tiene El, ni es mi derecho decidir sobre la vida de otro ser humano. Me pueden lastimar , si, lo han hecho, si, pero eso no me da derechos en este mundo maléfico. Se que obtendré lo contrario además. Lo justo es que no tuviese determinadas experiencias en mi vida pero eso va a ser imposible por el momento. Eso solo lo conseguirá Jehová cuando devuelva la perfección a la humanidad con su reino. Aquí y ahora nos toca tener una actitud de espera. Más que perdonar, no guardar rencor ni odio serían lugares mas favorables para esperar. No hay que hacerlo de la peor forma, la espera ya es una postura complicada dado el escenario. No se qué esperamos en un gobierno demoniaco con humanos como títeres sin consciencia de la verdad. Es posible que no sintamos agradecimiento o esa sensación de bienestar tipo carma feliz porque estamos en el lado de: somos objetivo del maléfico. Eso que un grado amigo!!! Todo se resume a nuestra capacidad de aguante. Si quieres centrarte en lo injusto que es, quizás no lo sea tanto. Es lógico y bueno que no nos sintamos como en un hogar feliz, Jehová tampoco ve su maravilloso mundo cuando mira acia abajo. No aspires a sentirte bien en este mundo, todo se trata de estar despierto y de tener fe en el único que nos sacará de este atolladero. Detrás de todo lo malo y de la depresión y de cualquier síntoma de decadencia está el diablo y querido, nos toca aguantar. Cuidate en tu tristeza o en cualquier sensación que no sea divina. Se ordenado, sal al campo, camina, come bien y ora mucho. Jehová es un Dios de orden y el orden trae mucha paz a nuestro cerebro. Y la paz trae aguante. Contempla el mundo desde fuera siempre. Siempre.puedes hablar conmigo para más profundidad por privado. Aguantamos juntos cuando quieras. Contempladas por 2 las torres cambian, dice un poema español. Pero no esperes sentirte bien en un mundo caótico, eso es raro, muy raro. Eso sí, somos privilegiados, sabemos lo que está pasando y quien está detrás de todo lo malo y de todo lo bueno con una profecía extraordinaria a punto de avanzar. Aguanta!!! Siempre aguanta!!! Deja ese sueño de abrís los ojos en la mañana, respirar y sentir, que bien me siento!! que feliz estoy y que bonito es todo lo que me rodea!! Estamos s las puertas de la hora más oscura, vamos a centrarnos o estaremos perdidos!!! Nos hemos encontrado en este foro, Jehova está detrás y eso es segura. Ya tenemos nuestra porción de revelaciones, disfrútala! No te pierdas la sensación de disfrutarla!! Levanta tu copa, el tiempo del fin está cerca! Con cariño, Ana💙

 

[DavidCJ]

After reading the commentary on the daily text today, it has got me wondering on the issue of forgiveness. Over the years I have been taught to forgive everyone, even if they are not sorry, malicious, & unrepentant. I struggled with that since there are people in this world who mock such things & are glad to do evil & boy are people embracing evil at an alarming rate.

You are only human so if the event is significant enough for you it will persist even if you have forgiven the person. The trick is not to dwell on it and treat the person with respect. It doesn't mean you have to be friends with them or hang out with them. If they bring up bad memories it is better to not associate the person than make it worse for the sake of your sanity, and maybe come back in the future if you really need to.

Physical movement:
One thing about depression is that it can be significantly improved to the point of little matter in most cases by living a healthy, active lifestyle. Exercise, going to the park, watching what you eat, all matter. Unlike a drug it won't have a rapid effect but it also doesn't come with side effects nor will it cost you lot of money. Make it a habit not to miss it even a day. Actually, try to participate in anaerobic exercises when possible over just aerobic. When you are huffing and puffing and sweating, your mood improves.

Boundaries:
Also, set boundaries for yourself. If you are of a person that is "nice" to the point where people start taking advantage of you, you need to set boundaries. I'm not saying that's who you are, but I have seen many people like that and I was like that too. You don't want to be nice, you want to be good, is what they say. Focus on yourself, so you can have room to focus on others.

Devices:
Too much of using devices is also a catalyst. There's an article that said notifications on our devices increase our anxiety. I turn off most notifications, unless it is of significance to me. I don't need my device telling me every time I got email. I go and check it myself. I had to turn email notification for my father because every email was pinging the phone. I told him turn it off and go check the email yourself. Wrestle the control back to YOU not the computer/phone.

Computer/Phones will also increase your ADHD and possibly even create it in those that don't already have one, because it's all about instant access right at your fingertips.

Real world:
And of course do not forget social interactions. If the place you are living in make you feel trapped, perhaps you might look into going far as moving. In 2024, it's about online people too. Reduce online and bring it offline. Meet people in person. Do things in person. When your mood improves, it is easier to deal with things in general, including such things as letting go and forgiveness.

 

[kenmuldoon55]

Be angry [at sin—at immorality, at injustice, at ungodly behavior], yet do not sin; do not let your anger [cause you shame, nor allow it to] last until the sun goes down. And do not give the devil an opportunity [to lead you into sin by holding a grudge, or nurturing anger, or harboring resentment, or cultivating bitterness].

Bible Gateway passage: Ephesians 4:26, Ephesians 4:27 - Amplified Bible

BE ANGRY [at sin—at immorality, at injustice, at ungodly behavior], YET DO NOT SIN; do not let your anger [cause you shame, nor allow it to] last until the sun goes down.

www.biblegateway.com

 

[Patricia]

@PJ54 I hear your pain in your post. I wish I had some "miracle" advice for you. I don't know you or what you've been through or what you may have already tried. I can tell you some things that have helped me.
Forgiveness is necessary and forgiveness is not a feeling. There are Scriptures that tell us to forgive if we want to be forgiven. Forgiveness is a choice. And think of it spelled like this "fore-give". Meaning to forgive before, before they apologize, before they change, and most importantly, before we feel like it. The choice to forgive isn't for the person who did you wrong, it's for you. And you don't have to tell the offender that he/she is forgiven unless they have said they're sorry. You just need to tell it to Jehovah. The feelings of anger and resentment don't go away instantly, unfortunately. And the only way we can "forgive and forget" is if the offender is truly sorry. As someone else already said, you can forgive and yet not be friends with the person.
Don't be fooled by feelings of anger and resentment when they flare up. You'll be tempted to think that nothing has changed, that you didn't truly forgive. But that's a lie straight from Satan. The moment that you choose to forgive, it's done, regardless of what you feel.
Once you understand this, then you have to choose to change your attitudes and your thoughts.
Ultimate freedom is the ability to choose our attitudes. Others may have had something to do with how we got to where we are but we can now take responsibility for our attitudes and direction in life. The root word in responsibility is "response".
We can't control the things that others do or have done to us but we can control how we respond.
God is concerned about the inner person of the heart, our inner life. That is: what we think about. The way we think determines how we live and who we are. So we have to think about what we're thinking about. When those resentment and anger thoughts flare up and they will, stop. Say to yourself No! That's over and done. Then turn your thoughts to something positive. Think about all the things that we have to be thankful for. Offer Jehovah a brief prayer of thanks for something, anything. It's really hard to be grateful and resentful/angry at the same time.
If you haven't already, really pour out your heart to Jehovah. Really get specific about your pain, anger, fear, or whatever your deepest feelings are. Then forgive. Take whatever/whoever off your hook and put them on Jehovah's hook. Let him be their judge, let him be your vindicator. Then ask Him to be your healer, tell him you don't want to be angry and resentful anymore. You'll still have to do your part. Work on controlling your thoughts. It takes time. And some things are really hard. But don't give up. Keep praying about it.
"The righteous one may fall seven times, and he will certainly get up" Prov. 24:16
I'm praying for your peace.

 

[kirmmy]

After reading the commentary on the daily text today, it has got me wondering on the issue of forgiveness. Over the years I have been taught to forgive everyone, even if they are not sorry, malicious, & unrepentant. I struggled with that since there are people in this world who mock such things & are glad to do evil & boy are people embracing evil at an alarming rate. While studying the bible I have learned that Jesus didn't forgive everybody (consider John 9:41). I try not to hold a grudge of any kind but I have to confess I have a deep resentment towards the world & life itself. The circumstances make me want to call evil on situations & rid them from my life. I have always been the more irritable type of person along with paranoia since it seems my "luck" (I use that term loosely) has been anything but ideal. I don't know if it is due to my upbringing & there's some form of PTSD that won't go away or if it's something else. There's the term to forgive & forget but the forgetting part is something I am not able to do since the experience is deeply engrained in my mind & sometimes it'll pop up (like when I first wake up & I'm ready to attack something) against my will. I'm at wits end at this point & not sure how to go about it (I do pray about it but I don't know what Jah's answer is). Does it make sense to harbor resentment towards circumstances & just life in general? I'm confused on what to do.

PJ I've posted it here before but it bears repeating:

Christian Forgiveness and Repentance | 2001 Commentaries

commentaries.2001translation.org

A balanced, Biblical view of forgiveness and repentance.

 

[PJ54]

Oh goodie, so you've forgiven the governing body for misleading you?

I hold no grudge against them. I'm leaving that in Gods hands.

 

[PJ54]

Depression is a real thing but it typically is something that we get over with after we have dealt with something, as it naturally occurs after a traumatic event such as a death or divorce, but is more often than not just a short term affliction of the mind. Just as our skin repairs itself, so to God made our brains extremely adaptive to handle difficult situations. The word 'depression' has been hijacked by the Pharmaceutical companies to make you believe that you have a chemical imbalance in your brain. Please believe me, they know what they are doing when it comes to manipulating a target group of people to make them believe they have 'depression', when in fact most people just have poor coping skills, or have a very poor sleeping routine. Most true depression is only temporary and will resolve after a couple of months, naturally. Depression is the bodies way of dealing with difficult situations within ones life, but it is only temporary, and once time has elapsed you will recover.

At this point in time there is no test to accurately measure your chemicals within your brain to determine if you actually have an imbalance, it's just a 'crap shoot' when they prescribe these medicines. If your depression was caused by an incident rather than an actual imbalance in your brain, by taking 'depression' medicine you are effectively causing an imbalance that wasn't there in the first place. Sure, your 'down' feeling won't be so down anymore after you take a pill, but neither will your 'up' times, and hopefully they don't make you feel suicidal which IS a side effect. Imaging that...you thought you just had depression(and maybe you did), but you never actually thought of killing yourself. Now, you take a pill to fix the temporary depression in you, and presto, now you want to kill yourself because the side effects of the medicine can cause that. This is not the answer for the majority of people who think they have depression.

'Depression' medicine just makes you complacent and open to new suggestions from the all powerful pill wizards. More often than not the 'depression' you feel can be cured with a few good nights sleep(this is a fact), but turning off the tv and social media is never gonna happen, so might as well pop a pill and add some side effects to our lives.

I don't know you PJ54, so don't take what I just wrote personally, I just see this type of thing all the time and if people only knew that they have more control than they give themselves credit, and understand that it might only take a few adjustments in their lives to NOT feel 'depressed' anymore, without swallowing a pill.

I have tried SSRIs once & I almost fell of a mobile home roof. My father was not happy with that at the time. I haven't gone near those since.