Little boy/child or congregation elder? You decide!

[Paul H]

Mark o'Donnell has a point here...

"Jehovah's Witnesses have released the latest 2022 elders' manual, with no changes to their destructive and dangerous child abuse policy. Even worse, they have added a lengthy paragraph encouraging appointments of elders as young as "early 20's. It is absolutely alarming to think that a barely-out-of-his-teens young man could be privy to internal investigations of child sexual abuse before he is old enough to drink a beer. He will become complicit in the crimes or cover-ups of his fellow elders."

 

[The God Pill]

Mark o'Donnell has a point here...

"Jehovah's Witnesses have released the latest 2022 elders' manual, with no changes to their destructive and dangerous child abuse policy. Even worse, they have added a lengthy paragraph encouraging appointments of elders as young as "early 20's. It is absolutely alarming to think that a barely-out-of-his-teens young man could be privy to internal investigations of child sexual abuse before he is old enough to drink a beer. He will become complicit in the crimes or cover-ups of his fellow elders."

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Given how poorly my own families CSA issues were handled by elders in their late 30's to early 60's I find it hard to follow how this could be any worse as far as how things are handled. Though I agree it's sad to think of men that young exposed to such unpleasant territory and often limited in there ability to provide justice by dysfunctional policies.

12 Let no man ever look down on your youth. On the contrary, become an example to the faithful ones in speaking, in conduct, in love, in faith, in chasteness.

 

[kirmmy]

I knew a Brother who was an elder in his early 20s. That was many years ago though. He was an exceptionally mature and spiritual person. Now they're just practicing stop-loss as they're losing people and especially Brothers qualified to be "good" elders. I'll bet you that the average age in any given congregation is 40-50. Young people are leaving. This won't help them.

 

[Joe MacTeeg]

Mark o'Donnell has a point here...

"Jehovah's Witnesses have released the latest 2022 elders' manual, with no changes to their destructive and dangerous child abuse policy. Even worse, they have added a lengthy paragraph encouraging appointments of elders as young as "early 20's. It is absolutely alarming to think that a barely-out-of-his-teens young man could be privy to internal investigations of child sexual abuse before he is old enough to drink a beer. He will become complicit in the crimes or cover-ups of his fellow elders."

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When I was serving at Brooklyn Bethel, in the mid 1980's, I worked with a brother who was a 27 year old elder. Also, he had a boyish young face as well. We used to good-naturedly call John: "Boy elder." He was a good brother. But, "mid-,or even early, 20's" is absurd.

This direction must have been given to CO's even earlier. I saw the trend at our meetings with the CO. A notable change in brothers who "qualified" as MS and elders. And not just by age. I was literally bullied by the CO to make the elder body have a unanimous raising of hands to approve the appointment of a brother I had voiced reservations about. And at first, did not raise my hand in approval. This was early 2021. The CO has sole power to appoint and delete, yet, probably so he could put it in his report to the Branch as "unanimous", the CO kept the discussion going until he could pressure me into conceding and finally raising my hand.

Since I resigned as an elder in June 2021, our young MS (teens) are doing meeting parts that I had been doing as an elder. They are clearly being groomed. The GB wants yes-men, not men who will stand on their Bible-trained conscience. They want men (and boys) who will readily submit their consciences to men, rather than God.

 

[PJ54]

When I was serving at Brooklyn Bethel, in the mid 1980's, I worked with a brother who was a 27 year old elder. Also, he had a boyish young face as well. We used to good-naturedly call John: "Boy elder." He was a good brother. But, "mid-,or even early, 20's" is absurd.

This direction must have been given to CO's even earlier. I saw the trend at our meetings with the CO. A notable change in brothers who "qualified" as MS and elders. And not just by age. I was literally bullied by the CO to make the elder body have a unanimous raising of hands to approve the appointment of a brother I had voiced reservations about. And at first, did not raise my hand in approval. This was early 2021. The CO has sole power to appoint and delete, yet, probably so he could put it in his report to the Branch as "unanimous", the CO kept the discussion going until he could pressure me into conceding and finally raising my hand.

Since I resigned as an elder in June 2021, our young MS (teens) are doing meeting parts that I had been doing as an elder. They are clearly being groomed. The GB wants yes-men, not men who will stand on their Bible-trained conscience. They want men (and boys) who will readily submit their consciences to men, rather than God.

I hate to admit it, but the millennials & zoomers are more inclined to submit to an authoritarian system since they were conditioned by the general public on the matter. Something else is in the making.

 

[Joe MacTeeg]

I hate to admit it, but the millennials & zoomers are more inclined to submit to an authoritarian system since they were conditioned by the general public on the matter. Something else is in the making.

Great point. This generation is completely hoodwinked. Here is one example. Right now, I can go to our local business district of shops and eateries etc. and not see a mask on people walking the busy sidewalks, as all mask measures are currently lifted. But if I go over by our major university, the main street has much fewer pedestrians. Just the occasional university student. Almost without exception they are masked. We are talking outside on a nice spring day, walking by yourself. One even had a face shield plus the mask. 😖

This generation is ready to welcome the final beast manifestation, with open arms.....

 

[Joe MacTeeg]

I hate to admit it, but the millennials & zoomers are more inclined to submit to an authoritarian system since they were conditioned by the general public on the matter. Something else is in the making.

One more example. A few weeks ago, my son and I spent the day at the local arena, watching four NCAA Tournament basketball games. Over 17,000 in attendance. Very, very few masks in the general audience. To the point it stood out as weird when you saw one. Yet all eight universities whose teams we saw play, had their cheerleader squads, and bands, masked up. It had a cult indoctrination feel to it. Pull the mask down to play your notes on the Tuba, then quickly put it back up. 😵‍💫

 

[PJ54]

Great point. This generation is completely hoodwinked. Here is one example. Right now, I can go to our local business district of shops and eateries etc. and not see a mask on people walking the busy sidewalks, as all mask measures are currently lifted. But if I go over by our major university, the main street has much fewer pedestrians. Just the occasional university student. Almost without exception they are masked. We are talking outside on a nice spring day, walking by yourself. One even had a face shield plus the mask. 😖

This generation is ready to welcome the final beast manifestation, with open arms.....

One more example. A few weeks ago, my son and I spent the day at the local arena, watching four NCAA Tournament basketball games. Over 17,000 in attendance. Very, very few masks in the general audience. To the point it stood out as weird when you saw one. Yet all eight universities whose teams we saw play, had their cheerleader squads, and bands, masked up. It had a cult indoctrination feel to it. Pull the mask down to play your notes on the Tuba, then quickly put it back up. 😵‍💫

I think part of the reason why my generation is like this is because everything is very unstable. The Boomers & Generation X had it very well thanks to the Lost Generation, Greatest Generation, & Silent Generation trudging through the turbulent times. It seems the Boomers have become very ambitious changing the dynamic of the world in which had caused extreme paradigm shifts where everything is confusing. Because of all that the Millennials had a taste of a stable life, only for it all to slip away around the time of 9/11/01. Plus, many don't have the skills to survive on their own with prices just going through the roof. It's a recipe for disaster, & when disaster strikes many will flee to the nearest hero that rises up. It's like the comedian George Carlin put it, "The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged".

Here's the skit of it (Heads up! There's some swearing):

 

[BagdadBill]

Maybe I'm missing something. Do they work a virtual literature counter over Skype? Jehovah please forgive me for that.

 

[BagdadBill]

I think part of the reason why my generation is like this is because everything is very unstable. The Boomers & Generation X had it very well thanks to the Lost Generation, Greatest Generation, & Silent Generation trudging through the turbulent times. It seems the Boomers have become very ambitious changing the dynamic of the world in which had caused extreme paradigm shifts where everything is confusing. Because of all that the Millennials had a taste of a stable life, only for it all to slip away around the time of 9/11/01. Plus, many don't have the skills to survive on their own with prices just going through the roof. It's a recipe for disaster, & when disaster strikes many will flee to the nearest hero that rises up. It's like the comedian George Carlin put it, "The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged".

Here's the skit of it (Heads up! There's some swearing):

My parents were Silent Generation but so was my sister. I am a Baby Boomer. I relate more to my parent's generation than my own. There was an assumed way of looking at life in general. My parents never pushed military service but by age 10 I more or less assumed that I would because everyone else in my family did. For some time I assumed that most people my age were raised with work ethics. Perhaps my generation was the beginning of a trend downward. Part of my childhood was in northern Wyoming. In the 1970s, kids in Wyoming went to church. Even the bad ones. In the city, not as much. Hindsight is 20/20 eh?

 

[PJ54]

My parents were Silent Generation but so was my sister. I am a Baby Boomer. I relate more to my parent's generation than my own. There was an assumed way of looking at life in general. My parents never pushed military service but by age 10 I more or less assumed that I would because everyone else in my family did. For some time I assumed that most people my age were raised with work ethics. Perhaps my generation was the beginning of a trend downward. Part of my childhood was in northern Wyoming. In the 1970s, kids in Wyoming went to church. Even the bad ones. In the city, not as much. Hindsight is 20/20 eh?

Perhaps the Woodstock culture had something to do with it. There were some intense paradigm shifts then.

 

[The Black Sheep]

Yeah, basically like hiring someone as a manager with no experience lol

 

[kirmmy]

Great point. This generation is completely hoodwinked. Here is one example. Right now, I can go to our local business district of shops and eateries etc. and not see a mask on people walking the busy sidewalks, as all mask measures are currently lifted. But if I go over by our major university, the main street has much fewer pedestrians. Just the occasional university student. Almost without exception they are masked. We are talking outside on a nice spring day, walking by yourself. One even had a face shield plus the mask. 😖

This generation is ready to welcome the final beast manifestation, with open arms.....

Where I live in Western Canada there are about 40% masked at Costco and about 70% at my local grocery store. It really cheeses me to see people wearing masks. I want to say to them: "Take off the damned mask, it doesn't do anything and makes you look brainwashed!" But I hold my tongue. When it was mandated hardly anyone said anything to me when I didn't wear one so I'll return the favor. I have a friend who's wife thinks she's being "considerate" of others by wearing a mask. SMH. Man, I'm so sick of this stuff.

You know that all this is coming back in the fall, right? There such transparent jackasses, they're signalling it all over the place. You can already see on news reports the talk about this variant and that variant and the possible need to respond, blah, blah, blah. I'd be willing to bet big money that lockdowns and masking and all the other junk returns this fall. Le sigh...

On the up side we don't seem to have a lot of the "I stand with Ukraine" stuff here.

 

[The God Pill]

Today I was the only one unmasked at the kingdom hall I had microphone duty one of the brothers in charge of sound suggested I put one on a third way through the watchtower I smugly whispered to him I don't participate in occult rituals.

 

[The God Pill]

The masks were a real fiasco too they made the microphones useless unless they were only a centimeter from people's faces eventually some got wise and removed them for the duration they had to speak in making comments.

 

[kirmmy]

Today I was the only one unmasked at the kingdom hall I had microphone duty one of the brothers in charge of sound suggested I put one on a third way through the watchtower I smugly whispered to him I don't participate in occult rituals.

Ever see the movie the Watchmen? Next time use this line on him:
"I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me!"

 

[SusanB]

Today I was the only one unmasked at the kingdom hall I had microphone duty one of the brothers in charge of sound suggested I put one on a third way through the watchtower I smugly whispered to him I don't participate in occult rituals.

That is how they say you get people out of “mass formation” is to shock them.

 

[BagdadBill]

Perhaps the Woodstock culture had something to do with it. There were some intense paradigm shifts then.

That would be my sister and her ex. My brother chose to go to Vietnam. I never could wrap my head around that but his second trip there was with the 11th Special Forces Group. Pinned down on a hilltop during the Tet. Made it home with no more than a bullet wound to the arm. He retired from the Army and continued on in defense work as what we would call a spy or technical defense work. I did four years and somehow found Jehovah. He converted to Judaism so he could marry a Jewish woman after he came back to the world. I understand the power of love but I don't understand joining a religion that God himself has declared defunct and decommissioned. Maybe it's my youthful ignorance.

 

[kirmmy]

That is how they say you get people out of “mass formation” is to shock them.

As Robert has said and others on this forum have highlighted, terror is the only thing that will get through to God's people. It is by terror that God will shake his people awake. Kind of like this:

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[SusanB]

As Robert has said and others on this forum have highlighted, terror is the only thing that will get through to God's people. It is by terror that God will shake his people awake. Kind of like this:

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That one was a belly laugh times 2!