The Wild Beast Has Wild Plans

Patricia

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Well, of course, Elon himself has warned that AI can be used for disinformation so it stands to reason that he would use it that way. But I still haven't seen proof that Obama is a natural born citizen.
The birth certificate that he provided apparently was good enough for the vast majority of voters. I'm not saying whether it was real or fake. It was accepted as real. Elon has never said he was born here. There's a difference.
 

evw

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There is no need to study evil, or to use it to awaken others. if they cannot see it for themselves, then they are impotent in understanding of the Word. If they cannot see evil, they are probably part of it. If they are sleeping, Jehovah will awaken them, but they will awaken to Jehovah only, because that is what is in their heart

The WT has an AWAKE article on Satanism. Why? To educate the brotherhood so that they can see behind Satan's mask. Satan transforms himself into an angel of light. One way he will do that in the future is to use transhumanism as an "antichrist" to show that MAN can heal people of being lame, blind and deaf and even "resurrect" loved one's consciousness "into the cloud" and "make them live forever"

Robert talks about Freemasonry and the digital grid system in his book as fulfillment of prophecy.

You and I do not see eye to eye on this issue and that's fine, we can agree to disagree.

I started a Bible study with someone by showing him not only what these evil people are wanting to do, but a picture of Butchart Gardens which was designed by Jenny Butchart who professed to be one of the anointed and shared what GOD is going to do about it.

Everyone reacts differently, true, that's to be expected, but the scriptures in Ephesians make it clear that part of the "suit of armor from God" is to have our eyes open "to the machinations (or crafty acts) of the Devil".

If you notice on this site, there are other posts about Project Blue Beam, AI, transhumanism, the vaccine, etc. It's all part of showing how Satan is trying to fool the masses and even will succeed in fooling God's people if possible.


Do we need to focus on the solution? Absolutely. But we also need to be aware of how our enemy works. Even Robert said in his book that the UN was using "smooth words" by having their stated goals sound EXACTLY like the goals of the Kingdom thus fooling some of the anointed into joining up with them. There will be more "smooth words" that will be said coming up that will fool even more people.
This morning I read Robert's article 'Me and Lyndon LaRouche' at the end Robert says:
'Does it matter to know about this?
Well, people have certain expectations and assumptions. The Watchtower has created a certain expectation among Jehovah's Witnesses. When those expectations and assumptions fail, a massive shakeout is sure to occur. In short, with regard to prophecy and the unfolding of future events, the Watchtower has played an important role in hiding the truth from those who know otherwise. This too is part of the prophecy'
For me, yes it's important to know so that I don't get fooled by the GB 'lying tongue' again and I was happy to know, so I thankfully could inform my friend yesterday and show her.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Additionally, Robert wrote extensively in his book about how there's going to be a nuclear WW3 and millions will be killed and how 1/3 of the elders "will fall" and 2/3 of the brothers and sisters "will fall" and how the UN will cause world wide devastation and murder millions with their depopulation agenda. The prophecy in the horsemen of the Apocalypse he says will cause a 1/4 of the earth to die.

Personally, I found that very hard to read and not encouraging at all. And yet, if that is what Jehovah willed to put into the scriptures and that is what truth is, then I need to prayerfully rely on Him to give me the peace in order to endure it.

In fact, the only weakness in his book is not really sharing the scriptural hope of how God is going to save his people and help protect them to get them through that. I even emailed him asking if Jehovah is going to miraculously feed his people like he did in the wilderness after leaving Egypt, etc.

If you'd like to have THAT discussion, then I'm all ears. But Jesus told his disciples that he was going to be impaled by the chief priest and scribes and Peter couldn't handle it and told him to "be kind to yourself, Lord, this will not happen to you at all". It's horrible contemplating traumatic events, I agree.

Having lived through a lot of traumatic stuff I'm not looking forward to more of it. I am comforted by the fact that this will be the last finale and then it will be over FOREVER but I'm still not looking forward to it at all, even though I know God's word tells us that it's going to happen.

What I did find incredibly encouraging in his book is how he shared that we are actually going to SEE the transfigured anointed and also how the prophecy in Joel about his pouring his spirit out on "all sorts of people" to enable us to preach a jugment message is encouraging. So let's talk more about how Jehovah is going to do thing LIKE THAT.

So please share the scriptures that you've found comforting on how Jehovah is going to help sustain his people through the famine and war that is coming because we KNOW that a great crowd is going to come out of Armageddon.

And I really do look forward to this discussion. Honestly. That is in fact, why I came to this site.
Indeed, what you say is very true. I apologise if I have over-stated myself to you. The issue I was trying to illustrate is one of focus. Of course I accept your point that people need to know certain issue that provide substance to the scriptural descriptions of the age we live in. In the case of Robert’s book, there is a necessity in any writing to provide the evidence for what is written both for and against the argument but it is the subject matter that is the focus of attention. Therein lies the salvation, does it not? We all know the boat is sinking. Our object is to learn how we may enter the lifeboat safely. Which is more important? To understand why the boat is sinking, or to understand how to get off it safely and to have faith in the oarsman? What did the passengers on the Titanic do first - put on life belts, or go and look at the hole in the bow? It just took one man to report on the hole. The crew figured out how long they had. The bow nosing downwards informed the passengers. How much more evidence did they need. We are in the same boat now - so what should we be doing. The bible is plain…..seek Jehovah. It’s only a question of priorities. I’m not questioning for one minute the validity of your motives, only suggesting the direction may need honing. 🙂 I apologise.
 

StopTheInsanity

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Indeed, what you say is very true. I apologise if I have over-stated myself to you. The issue I was trying to illustrate is one of focus. Of course I accept your point that people need to know certain issue that provide substance to the scriptural descriptions of the age we live in. In the case of Robert’s book, there is a necessity in any writing to provide the evidence for what is written both for and against the argument but it is the subject matter that is the focus of attention. Therein lies the salvation, does it not? We all know the boat is sinking. Our object is to learn how we may enter the lifeboat safely. Which is more important? To understand why the boat is sinking, or to understand how to get off it safely and to have faith in the oarsman? What did the passengers on the Titanic do first - put on life belts, or go and look at the hole in the bow? It just took one man to report on the hole. The crew figured out how long they had. The bow nosing downwards informed the passengers. How much more evidence did they need. We are in the same boat now - so what should we be doing. The bible is plain…..seek Jehovah. It’s only a question of priorities. I’m not questioning for one minute the validity of your motives, only suggesting the direction may need honing. 🙂 I apologise.
Apology accepted. It's just that there's a lot of people out there that don't even know the Titanic is sinking 'cause they think it's unsinkable. We need to show those who are reasonable that they need to stop dancing and get into the lifeboat. 😆
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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The birth certificate that he provided apparently was good enough for the vast majority of voters. I'm not saying whether it was real or fake. It was accepted as real. Elon has never said he was born here. There's a difference.
You’re so right! I believe that Obama was born on this planet. That alone gives him as much right to govern a piece of land on this planet as it does anyone else. Surely the geographical location of conception is more important anyway rather than the place he was actually deposited upon? Do we know where that took place? Maybe Elon is privy to that information. However, When one considers the sort of people that have risen to hold such a position, the geographical location of where they were conceived has zero consequence yet often has significant meaning. I often think that more applicable. I believe some important people have probably been conceived in a toilet 50,000 feet up in the air in a jumbo jet. That must be their pinnacle of achievement for some of our politicians. In England, we had a French guy pop over here in 1066 to govern. He started quite a tradition. His offspring decided to do the same thing in America, and so it’s not entirely unexpected that a chap in Africa decided to have a go as well.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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What we see here is Satan turning himself into an Angel of light. That video is one convincing advertisement for hope and resolve and I’m sure Americans would vote for him in their millions. Cometh the hour, cometh the man. If technology is to be part of the end-game of control and banking in this system, who better? Biden and Trump etc pale in comparison.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Apology accepted. It's just that there's a lot of people out there that don't even know the Titanic is sinking 'cause they think it's unsinkable. We need to show those who are reasonable that they need to stop dancing and get into the lifeboat. 😆
I really think you missed the point of my apology. The solution is the scripture, not endlessly explaining the evil or endless talk of the evil. If that is not obvious to people in this day, they clearly love it. The scripture speaks of the condition of people not knowing the way out, sighing, no natural agreement, slandering, proud, belligerent war-like, wars reports of wars, seeking a way out and not finding it. 2Tim3. Jesus said to do what? Preach the word. The WORD is the enticement to study, not the cause of pain that people seek it for. The truth provides the healing, not the confirmation of what ails us. We know that. It’s this system. And why are you preaching to the converted? If anyone knows about the worlds evil, it’s causation and its solution it is those whom are already here. Three years ago, the vaccine was the mark of the beast. Now its brain control that is mooted as the mark of the beast. Next it will be digital banking that is the mark of the beast. Then something else. Maybe it will be a conglomeration of many things. That is why focussing on the truth, it’s solution and protection is the critical factor. For me, I will not “agree to disagree“ on that matter.
 

StopTheInsanity

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I really think you missed the point of my apology. The solution is the scripture, not endlessly explaining the evil or endless talk of the evil. If that is not obvious to people in this day, they clearly love it. The scripture speaks of the condition of people not knowing the way out, sighing, no natural agreement, slandering, proud, belligerent war-like, wars reports of wars, seeking a way out and not finding it. 2Tim3. Jesus said to do what? Preach the word. The WORD is the enticement to study, not the cause of pain that people seek it for. The truth provides the healing, not the confirmation of what ails us. We know that. It’s this system. And why are you preaching to the converted? If anyone knows about the worlds evil, it’s causation and its solution it is those whom are already here. Three years ago, the vaccine was the mark of the beast. Now its brain control that is mooted as the mark of the beast. Next it will be digital banking that is the mark of the beast. Then something else. Maybe it will be a conglomeration of many things. That is why focussing on the truth, it’s solution and protection is the critical factor. For me, I will not “agree to disagree“ on that matter.
After meditating on what you've said for awhile, this is my take-away so let me know how far off I am or if I'm hitting what you are saying:

Regardless of what anyone else does, be it the rogue GB or an evil worldly ruler, OUR focus needs to be in faith in Jehovah's miraculous ability to fulfill his purpose NO MATTER WHAT any human does or doesn't do. I think the point of Robert's book was to expose the WT so that JW's would stop looking to them to save them and to look to Jehovah which is wear the WT should have been directing everyone.

Jehovah's power, wisdom and love are so great that nothing else matters and we need to share THAT with both our brothers and sisters and the rest of humankind as well.

Have I got it? Did I miss anything?

It I do have the point well understand, then I whole heartedly agree with it. So, with that said, I'm gonna hop on over to the Creation section and start a jammin' new post where we can all share how our faith is built in Jehovah's miraculous abilities. How's that sound?
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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After meditating on what you've said for awhile, this is my take-away so let me know how far off I am or if I'm hitting what you are saying:

Regardless of what anyone else does, be it the rogue GB or an evil worldly ruler, OUR focus needs to be in faith in Jehovah's miraculous ability to fulfill his purpose NO MATTER WHAT any human does or doesn't do. I think the point of Robert's book was to expose the WT so that JW's would stop looking to them to save them and to look to Jehovah which is wear the WT should have been directing everyone.

Jehovah's power, wisdom and love are so great that nothing else matters and we need to share THAT with both our brothers and sisters and the rest of humankind as well.

Have I got it? Did I miss anything?

It I do have the point well understand, then I whole heartedly agree with it. So, with that said, I'm gonna hop on over to the Creation section and start a jammin' new post where we can all share how our faith is built in Jehovah's miraculous abilities. How's that sound?
That has always been the impression I was given when I started learning the message as related from the bible, with contextual confirmation by Robert. Yes. It was thus supported by many others in their conversation and replies, argument and banter and general conversation, in the natural way of things amongst like minded folks. In time, the truth began to speak for itself - in other words, the Truth exceeded itself in faith, rather than the explanations given by a man, because the truth takes ahold of the heart and one either sees the point, or remains with the man and which stumbles many. Not because of the man per se, but because their faith they neglect to study and feed. To those that seek insight, the man then becomes the companion and helper, as do those that have also fed - been fed - by the spirit, at the same table given to the man to set the food upon. This is where the division becomes apparent in that the stimulus to learn is not the evil that we see, but our love of what is right, our love of Jehovah. It never was evil that made man seek Jehovah and it never will be. It is our love of what is right, love of what is holy, love of our creator. That is our impetuous toward life. It never was simply the absence of evil. There was no evil in Eden to make Adam want to love Jehovah. The watchtower itself does not prioritise the love of Jehovah but the being free from evil. If it promoted such, things might be different. They choose to give it lip service only to justify their authority and scheming. I am no part of your reasoning. What you see, you have seen for yourself. All I can say that in my opinion, I agree with your conclusion.
 

SusanB

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LOL! are you really gonna keep talking about Obama? He said he was born in Hawaii. Others claim he was born in Kenya. Either could be true and it would not change the fact that he is a natural born citizen. His mother was born in Kansas. She lived in Hawaii but also went to Kenya because that is where here then husband was from. She was a natural US born citizen, so whether she gave birth in Hawaii or Kenya, the child of a natural born citizen, is also themselves considered to be one.

And as far as Elon did you read this:



If you believe that Elon is running, then show me the live video or tweet, etc... from him on the day he made that announcement.
Hi Jodan, I was wondering about why Obama would counterfeit his birth certificate because I’m convinced that he did. So, I found that an article that claims the law on citizenship was different at the time of his birth. That his citizen mother would have had to live in the US for at least 5 years after the age of 14 yrs. and since she was 18 years old when she gave birth and she was living outside the US at that time, then apparently he would not have been a US citizen.

Here is the article.

 

goldie

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After meditating on what you've said for awhile, this is my take-away so let me know how far off I am or if I'm hitting what you are saying:

Regardless of what anyone else does, be it the rogue GB or an evil worldly ruler, OUR focus needs to be in faith in Jehovah's miraculous ability to fulfill his purpose NO MATTER WHAT any human does or doesn't do. I think the point of Robert's book was to expose the WT so that JW's would stop looking to them to save them and to look to Jehovah which is wear the WT should have been directing everyone.

Jehovah's power, wisdom and love are so great that nothing else matters and we need to share THAT with both our brothers and sisters and the rest of humankind as well.

Have I got it? Did I miss anything?

It I do have the point well understand, then I whole heartedly agree with it. So, with that said, I'm gonna hop on over to the Creation section and start a jammin' new post where we can all share how our faith is built in Jehovah's miraculous abilities. How's that sound?
Excellent comment
 
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